John,
After you get the error upload the session.log file located at /Users/<username>/Library/Preferences/JMRI/log.
Dave Sand
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Subject: [jmriusers] Mac Java 17 upgrade caused permission issue
Date: Tuesday, September 03, 2024 8:57 PM
My railroad's Pi/JMRI computer uses Java 17 included with MSteveTodd¡¯s compilation. That works with no problems. This is noted as a reference only.
The issue I¡¯m having is a Permission Denied issue when saving the PanelPro .xml file(s), I use a MacBook for developing JMRI files, which was using Java 11 JDK. With 5.9.x uses Java 17 and future releases will require 17, I upgraded to Java 17 JRE. and removed the zulu-11.jdk directory as per the JMRI method. It upgraded without any problems and worked as expected, maybe even faster? Re-boot done between each change.?
After adding AZUL 17 JRE and removing the 11 directory when quitting JMRI and saving changes a dialog box pops up with Panel Pro ¡°Permission Denied¡±. Clicking OK allows the program to close, as expected. Upon re-starting JMRI the changes saved are there, as expected. No matter if I replace Java 11 as long as Java 17 exists the the error exists.
Question: Did I do something wrong during the upgrade process? ?Or is this a bug with the Mac JMRI version? ?Or is it a Zulu Java 17 issue? ? ?
John ?Bauchiero
- D&H Model Railroad
-?NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, Pi4b, DCC-EX
- JMRI current test version 5.9.2
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Re: how do I remove JMRI from my PC running MS Windows
Steve,
Thanks for the clarification. ?I should have said use the Windows control panel to uninstall JMRI.
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] how do I remove JMRI from my PC running MS Windows
Date: Tuesday, September 03, 2024 8:45 PM
On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 04:10 PM, Dave Sand wrote:
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Use the Windows control panel to delete the JMRI install. ?There will normally be a left over JMRI directory at C:\Program Files (x86). ?Manually delete that.
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Please don't try to "delete" anything via the Control Panel - Uninstall it if you want to remove it. Although AFAIK JMRI itself doesn't create any registry entries, I'm pretty sure the Windows install process does. Simply "deleting" JMRI folders will leave those registry entries behind.
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Having said that, if you really want to get rid of everything JMRI (Java is totally separate) including user files and registry entries, use an uninstaller such as the .
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HTH,
Steve
"Breezlys"
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My railroad's Pi/JMRI computer uses Java 17 included with MSteveTodd¡¯s compilation. That works with no problems. This is noted as a reference only.
The issue I¡¯m having is a Permission Denied issue when saving the PanelPro .xml file(s), I use a MacBook for developing JMRI files, which was using Java 11 JDK. With 5.9.x uses Java 17 and future releases will require 17, I upgraded to Java 17 JRE. and removed the zulu-11.jdk directory as per the JMRI method. It upgraded without any problems and worked as expected, maybe even faster? Re-boot done between each change.?
After adding AZUL 17 JRE and removing the 11 directory when quitting JMRI and saving changes a dialog box pops up with Panel Pro ¡°Permission Denied¡±. Clicking OK allows the program to close, as expected. Upon re-starting JMRI the changes saved are there, as expected. No matter if I replace Java 11 as long as Java 17 exists the the error exists.
Question: Did I do something wrong during the upgrade process? ?Or is this a bug with the Mac JMRI version? ?Or is it a Zulu Java 17 issue? ? ?
John ?Bauchiero
- D&H Model Railroad -?NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, Pi4b, DCC-EX - JMRI current test version 5.9.2
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Re: how do I remove JMRI from my PC running MS Windows
On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 04:10 PM, Dave Sand wrote:
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Use the Windows control panel to delete the JMRI install. ?There will normally be a left over JMRI directory at C:\Program Files (x86). ?Manually delete that.
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Please don't try to "delete" anything via the Control Panel - Uninstall it if you want to remove it. Although AFAIK JMRI itself doesn't create any registry entries, I'm pretty sure the Windows install process does. Simply "deleting" JMRI folders will leave those registry entries behind.
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Having said that, if you really want to get rid of everything JMRI (Java is totally separate) including user files and registry entries, use an uninstaller such as the .
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HTH,
Steve
"Breezlys"
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Re: JMRI 5.8 hangs when opening panels-tables automatically on startup.
#startup
Peter - I wasn't. Bob had asked to have Gil try a Development build and I was noting that the latest one doesn't work on M1 Mac.
Fred Dalzell
On Sep 3, 2024 at 5:57?PM -0600, Peter Ulvestad via groups.io <ulvestad@...>, wrote:
Fred,
You're hijacking someone else's topic. Please start a new topic for your issue.
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Re: JMRI 5.8 hangs when opening panels-tables automatically on startup.
#startup
Fred,
You're hijacking someone else's topic. Please start a new topic for your issue.
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Re: JMRI 5.8 hangs when opening panels-tables automatically on startup.
#startup
Oops - they're the same. Package 2001??(Build 2303) fails to launch on M1 Mac.
Fred Dalzell
On Sep 3, 2024 at 5:32?PM -0600, Fred Dalzell via groups.io <dalzellf@...>, wrote:
Bob - Build 2001 fails to launch on M1 Mac.
Fred Dalzell
On Sep 3, 2024 at 4:52?PM -0600, Bob Jacobsen via groups.io <rgj1927@...>, wrote:
Gli
There are development installers that should have a fix for the file-dialog exception here:
https://builds.jmri.org/jenkins/job/development/job/packages/
When you get the chance, could you please try one and let us know whether or not that solved your start-up problem? Thanks
Bob
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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
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Re: JMRI 5.8 hangs when opening panels-tables automatically on startup.
#startup
Bob - Build 2001 fails to launch on M1 Mac.
Fred Dalzell
On Sep 3, 2024 at 4:52?PM -0600, Bob Jacobsen via groups.io <rgj1927@...>, wrote:
Gli
There are development installers that should have a fix for the file-dialog exception here:
https://builds.jmri.org/jenkins/job/development/job/packages/
When you get the chance, could you please try one and let us know whether or not that solved your start-up problem? Thanks
Bob
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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
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Re: JMRI 5.8 hangs when opening panels-tables automatically on startup.
#startup
Gli
There are development installers that should have a fix for the file-dialog exception here:
When you get the chance, could you please try one and let us know whether or not that solved your start-up problem? Thanks
Bob
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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
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Re: Train entering multi track terminus
Richard,
I would use a script to start the train using the train info file. There are options to override some of the defined fields, such as the DCC address or roster entry.
Dave Sand
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----- Original message ----- From: "Richard Trilling via groups.io" <richard.trilling@...> To: [email protected]Subject: [jmriusers] Train entering multi track terminus Date: Tuesday, September 03, 2024 3:23 PM David What I'm trying to do is simulate a terminus station. I have a track coming into the terminus with an UNKOWN train, stopping in a block before the station(in2). It then examines all the tracks in the station (v1 -> v6) and chooses the first one that is unoccupied to enter. I've established have one .info file per track in the station. This .info file will be chained from the first .info file which brings the train to the block before the station(in2). Thanks to your previous response I now know how to identify the UNKNOWN train entering the block before station. The problem being is I have to transfer/write this identity into the "trainname" field of the .info file that I want to chain to. If I knew to write the locomotive identity into the chained "trainname" field, the rest I know how to do using LogixNG. Would you have any ideas on how to do this ? Hopefully what I'm writing is clear. Richard Trilling Edited on Tuesday, 3 September 2024 at 21:48 (GMT + 2) ¨¤ Paris, France; sent later. Attachments: * LadderTerminus.png
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Save Changes to Throttle Button doesn't save the state of all pressed buttons.
I have a throttle for a Soundtraxx equiped locomotive and I have changed the function call for one of the buttons on the throttle.?
Here is the properties for the button "Alternate Mixer".? Note it is set to latchable and visible
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Here is the panel with the button set as well as the Short Horn Button set which is also latchable.
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I have tried "Save Current Throttle" as well as "Export Current Throttle Customization to roster".
When I exit JRMI and then run it again, the next time the throttle is open the "alternate mixer" button is not selected, but "short horn" is.
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Any ideas what I am doing wrong?? Thanks
JMRI PanelPro 5.7.7+?
Windows 11
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Seth Olitzky
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Re: how do I remove JMRI from my PC running MS Windows
Tim,
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For Windows 11, you uninstall JMRI like any other application.? Under Settings, Apps, Installed apps,? search for JMRI and uninstall.? That will remove the program.? To remove all data, delete your JMRI user profile directory.? I would not recommend the later as the amount of data created by JMRI is insignificant.?
Dan
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Joe
The Transit defines the route the train will take, dispatcher allocates sections ahead of the train, to be allocated they cannot be allocated to another train, and the blocks in the section are unoccupied and not allocated to another section. The switchs in a section must be set so the train can exit that section (we cannot change switchs in an occupied section). Seems simple. There are bizzion edge cases. We are continually refining the algorithms to keep up with the new "use cases" as they appear.
"No Signals"? is easier than using signals, and more robust, if you use signals you can set "permissive" and "intermediate" which can cause trains to not stop when the signal is stop as well as manually manipulate "aspects" and "speeds" that can also cause trains to go where they shouln't. The down side is that there is no way or holding/releaseing signals unless you set up special sensors and you cant force the train to enter an occupied block (no back up the loco onto the train type stuff), also speed changes can be? a bit jerky if you dont have "speed profiles" and short sections.
Steve G.
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Re: how do I remove JMRI from my PC running MS Windows
Tim,
Start PanelPro. ?Go to Help -> Locations. ?It will show you the locations for each type of JMRI data. ?By default, other than the install location, they will be sub directories under the "settings" location. ?Quit PanelPro.
Use the Windows control panel to delete the JMRI install. ?There will normally be a left over JMRI directory at C:\Program Files (x86). ?Manually delete that.
Delete the JMRI directory at C:\Users\<user name>. ?Delete any JMRI related directories outside of settings as indicated by Help -> Locations.
Dave Sand
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Subject: [jmriusers] how do I remove JMRI from my PC running MS Windows
Date: Tuesday, September 03, 2024 3:27 PM
Good day,
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So does anybody know how to COMPLETELY REMOVE JMRI from my PC that is running MS Windows 11.
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EVERYTHING all code, all data, registry entries etc etc etc etc.
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I will also need to remove java correct?
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Thanks,
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Tim
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Re: how do I remove JMRI from my PC running MS Windows
It would probably be best if we not talk about that.............
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Someday I may come back to it but for today I just want to COMPLETELY remove it all code, all data, EVERYTHING.
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Can you please tell me how to do that?
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Thanks!
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Tim
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Re: how do I remove JMRI from my PC running MS Windows
I wouldn¡¯t remove Java - just in case something else requires it
But why are you removing JMRI??
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On 3 Sep 2024, at 21:29, Tim Kelley via groups.io <tim.kelley@...> wrote:
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Good day,
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So does anybody know how to COMPLETELY REMOVE JMRI from my PC that is running MS Windows 11.
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EVERYTHING all code, all data, registry entries etc etc etc etc.
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I will also need to remove java correct?
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Thanks,
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Tim
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how do I remove JMRI from my PC running MS Windows
Good day,
?
So does anybody know how to COMPLETELY REMOVE JMRI from my PC that is running MS Windows 11.
?
EVERYTHING all code, all data, registry entries etc etc etc etc.
?
I will also need to remove java correct?
?
Thanks,
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Tim
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Train entering multi track terminus
David
What I'm trying to do is simulate a terminus station.
I have a track coming into the terminus with an UNKOWN train, stopping in a block before the station(in2). It then examines all the tracks in the station (v1 -> v6) and chooses the first one that is unoccupied to enter.
I've established have one .info file per track in the station. This .info file will be chained from the first .info file which brings the train to the block before the station(in2).
Thanks to your previous response I now know how to identify the UNKNOWN train entering the block before station. The problem being is I have to transfer/write this identity into the "trainname" field of the .info file that I want to chain to. If I knew to write the locomotive identity into the chained "trainname" field, the rest I know how to do using LogixNG.
Would you have any ideas on how to do this ?
Hopefully what I'm writing is clear.
Richard Trilling
Edited on Tuesday, 3 September 2024 at 21:48 (GMT + 2) ¨¤ Paris, France;
sent later.
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Steve,
That is interesting that you can run Dispatcher and set it to No Signals.
What causes Dispatcher to start & stop trains where they might collide? Is it just the occupied block(s)?
?Will try it.
Jos
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Re: How to set BEMF cutoff?
The Tooltip for CV="10" item="EMF Feedback Cutout" default="0"
tooltip="Up to 127, this sets the speed step above which the intensity of BEMF control will be reduced to zero. Values over 127 cause the BEMF to decrease as a percentage (up to 50%)."
BEMF Cutout (0-127 or 128-255)
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