For a new installation, is there any reason to use logix as opposed to logixng? It appears that NG is intended to (eventually) completely supplant logix, so probably the answer is no. However I suppose that there may be some straggling bits that haven't been redone yet or something like that.
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Hi,
I will try to show it by images.
I have this layout. You can see the signals SAL2O( text above the signal) and S2/6 ( text next to the signal) that text is next to them. Also there is involved turnouts CanvV6V2O( turnoutbelow the text) and CanvV2V6O(turnout above the text)
Configuration of turnout CanvV2V6O
On signalMast logic this is what happens about the position on the turnouts.
I tried to configure SignalMast Logic it without the link between turnouts and it works correctly even if I establish later the connection but when I start JMRI it happens this.
I hope it is clearer now with the images
Best Regards
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En viernes, 5 de mayo de 2023, 21:38:44 CEST, Dave Sand <ds@...> escribió:
颁é蝉补谤,
We will need a least a picture of what you are trying to do. ?The best approach is to upload the xml file to the group's ProblemsBeingWorkedOn file folder.
Dave Sand
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Subject: [jmriusers] Signal Mast Logic #signalmasts #turnouts
Date: Friday, May 05, 2023 2:29 PM
Hello,
I have detected and issue on the signal mast logic or at least I have the problem. It is related to turnouts that are connected. I have two turnouts that are directly connected one on closed position and the other on throw. On the configuration on the turnout I linked both turnouts and I selected to invert the second one. It worked perfectly so both turnouts are paired and when route is established at them goes straight and in the oposite position goes to another path. When I used the discover to establish the pairing signals all goes perfectly but when I tried to work always the signal is on danger. I forced to change aspect but it is not the correct way. When I analysed the signal mast Logic I released that turnouts aren't correctly. Both where considered as throw instead of one throw and the other closed to be active so it is not possible to link them. If I didn't put this link the pairing is correct with the Signal Mast Logic that is the way I did actually the configuration.
I am using JMRI on its 5.2 version so it is upgraded until last production version, is it a problem on this last version or it was also on previous versions?
Best Regards
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颁é蝉补谤,
We will need a least a picture of what you are trying to do. ?The best approach is to upload the xml file to the group's ProblemsBeingWorkedOn file folder.
Dave Sand
----- Original message -----
Subject: [jmriusers] Signal Mast Logic #signalmasts #turnouts
Date: Friday, May 05, 2023 2:29 PM
Hello,
I have detected and issue on the signal mast logic or at least I have the problem. It is related to turnouts that are connected. I have two turnouts that are directly connected one on closed position and the other on throw. On the configuration on the turnout I linked both turnouts and I selected to invert the second one. It worked perfectly so both turnouts are paired and when route is established at them goes straight and in the oposite position goes to another path. When I used the discover to establish the pairing signals all goes perfectly but when I tried to work always the signal is on danger. I forced to change aspect but it is not the correct way. When I analysed the signal mast Logic I released that turnouts aren't correctly. Both where considered as throw instead of one throw and the other closed to be active so it is not possible to link them. If I didn't put this link the pairing is correct with the Signal Mast Logic that is the way I did actually the configuration.
I am using JMRI on its 5.2 version so it is upgraded until last production version, is it a problem on this last version or it was also on previous versions?
Best Regards
颁é蝉补谤
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Hello,
I have detected and issue on the signal mast logic or at least I have the problem. It is related to turnouts that are connected. I have two turnouts that are directly connected one on closed position and the other on throw. On the configuration on the turnout I linked both turnouts and I selected to invert the second one. It worked perfectly so both turnouts are paired and when route is established at them goes straight and in the oposite position goes to another path. When I used the discover to establish the pairing signals all goes perfectly but when I tried to work always the signal is on danger. I forced to change aspect but it is not the correct way. When I analysed the signal mast Logic I released that turnouts aren't correctly. Both where considered as throw instead of one throw and the other closed to be active so it is not possible to link them. If I didn't put this link the pairing is correct with the Signal Mast Logic that is the way I did actually the configuration.
I am using JMRI on its 5.2 version so it is upgraded until last production version, is it a problem on this last version or it was also on previous versions?
Best Regards
颁é蝉补谤
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YAY my Ethernet shield showed up today!!……….now what? I have two groove 125khz sensors and an uno. I plan to buy more sensors in the near future. Can someone please provide a step per step for hooking it up, then programming followed by the required JMRI settings. Thank you?
Micheal (aka the computer, but eager dummy)?
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On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 11:57 AM, Lawrence Varady wrote:
Are you saying decoder pro has no issues with ANY brand sound decoder?
Lawrence, DecoderPro is basically a very smart throttle connected to your DCC (or other) system. What matters is whether your DCC system and the decoder in question will play nicely together. If, for example, your DCC system's programming track output isn't robust enough for a particular sound decoder, well, JMRI can't change that. HTH, Steve "Breezlys"
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On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 02:16 PM, <jmri@...> wrote:
What I do find is that this restriction does reduce car movement, which is expected, because if a C/I track is full for a specific location, a car cannot be moved there with a final destination of that location, and cannot use another empty track due to an incorrect location.
You could simply "pool" all of your C/I tracks at that location.? Now if a certain destination C/I needs extra track space, it will steal it from the others.? This way your cars will be blocked by destination. Dan
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Hello again,
I currently have a yard where I have classification/interchange tracks set up by location, which works ok.? What I do find is that this restriction does reduce car movement, which is expected, because if a C/I track is full for a specific location, a car cannot be moved there with a final destination of that location, and cannot use another empty track due to an incorrect location.? I would like to make a change to get rid of the restriction of location on my C/I tracks, so that cars from any location can use any classification track.? Without these location restrictions, will OperationsPro attempt to block cars by final destination when sending cars to a C/I track when possible???
Thanks.
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Tom
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#operationspro
Hi Dan/Pete,
Makes total sense now.? Thank you for your help.??
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Tom
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couldn't he print the switch list without hitting the "move " button? I thought I printed a switch list just after I " built " the train. I can't test it now my computer is down and will be for a bit.
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Are you saying decoder pro has no issues with ANY brand sound decoder?
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I had a look at the source code for turnout control (MarklinTurnout.java). Since my experience with the source code of JMRI is somewhat limited,?I?may?be missing something, it does, however, look as if the MarklinTurnout class is unintentionally hardcoded to the MM protocol.
Line 126 sets the protocol to "UNKNOWN": 126: int protocol = UNKNOWN;
The method in line 152 "getCANAddress" checks the protocol?and defaults to "MM" if set to anything but DCC.
? ? int getCANAddress() {
? ? ? ? switch (protocol) {
? ? ? ? ? ? case DCC:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? return _number + MarklinConstants.DCCACCSTART - 1;
? ? ? ? ? ? default:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? return _number + MarklinConstants.MM1ACCSTART - 1;
? ? ? ? }
? ? }
In line 164 it uses the above method to check what protocol it should be using:
? ? ? ? ? ?if (protocol == UNKNOWN) {? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?if (m.getAddress() == _number + MarklinConstants.MM1ACCSTART - 1) {
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? protocol = MM2;
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? } else if (m.getAddress() == _number + MarklinConstants.DCCACCSTART - 1) {
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? protocol = DCC;
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? } else {
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? //Message is not for us.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? return;
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? }
? ? ? ? ? ? }
It does this by looking at the output of the "getCANAddress". Since the "protocol" variable is never set to anything but UNKNOWN, JMRI will always use "MM" for M?rklin turnout protocols (given the result of the "getCANAddress" method).?
Since the Central Station supports both DCC and MM for turnouts, it should be possible to somehow change the protocol to DCC. Is there any way in the XML files or anywhere that I can insert some sort of property to work around this issue? It does not seem like it, but maybe someone with more knowledge of the source code can shed some light on this.
Best regards S?ren
Den tors. 4. maj 2023 kl. 20.33 skrev S?ren Jacob Lauritsen via <m= [email protected]>:
Hi group,
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I am struggling?with CS3 and DCC accessory decoders. I am using a CS3 (Central Station 3) which has the same Ethernet protocol as the CS2 (Central Station 2).
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I cannot get accessories to work, so I checked the "Marklin Monitor" and noticed that JMRI sends out commands in the MM (Motorola) format for the CS3. As a test I created an MM based turnout and it switched just fine.
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Is there any way to change accessory communication to DCC? CS3 supports both formats, and I mainly use DCC accessory decoders (that do not support MM).
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Best regards
S?ren
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#nce
Andy,
Please clarify your question about working with signals. Normal case the
computer provides the logic to implement the signals so it knows what's
happening.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Which decoders to buy has nothing to do with JMRI and your question should be taken to a general DCC forum.
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Peter Ulvestad
JMRI Users Group Moderator ( )
Tam Valley Group Moderator ( )
Sprog-DCC Group Moderator ( )
Edmonton Model Railroad Association ( )
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I'm looking to buy my first sound decoder installed N scale loco.
I wanted to get recommendations for which decoder manufacturer to consider. I use Decoder Pro but have read that some sound decoders require additional hardware etc. to program/download sound files.
Thx
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Thanks, I will give that a try. I had thought maybe it was obvious but I am a bit of a beginner!
Would the same think work with semaphore signals?
regards
Andy
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Getter frustrated trying to run warrants. I created several warrants and tested them through the editor auto run two or three time and they work perfectly. Save the warrant and the next time it is run the train will either run past the Oblock or fail to have the entire locomotive in the block. When this happens I need to quit the program and shut down the computer including the controller.?
My system is running JMRI 4.26 on a windows 10 laptop.
Is this normal when running warrants.?
I usually run transits through the dispatcher with no problems.
Does JMRI 5 give you the option the back a train into a siding and drive back out.
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#nce
Andy,
make
If you have the Power Pro system box (not PowerCab, SB5, Twin) you can see those
turnout operations. Add the turnout in JMRI and make sure the feedback mode is
set for MONITORING.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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#operationspro
Pete,
The "receive" load in a schedule can also be blank. That allows all custom loads and default loads to be accepted by the spur if the option to accept all load names is also selected.
So in Tom's case, all he needs to do is add a schedule with the car type "XM", and leave all of the line items blank.
Dan
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Micheal Hodgson
Tom Myrick
Ken Cameron
Peter Ulvestad