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Tim, Also bear in mind that it is very important that if the turnout reports as free, there must be no possibility of trains touching when attempting to pass. This has a huge bearing on where to actually cut the rails, and has mostly, but not exclusively, to do with the distance of the first non-isolating axle from the coupling closest to the turnout. Locos can easily be asymmetrical in this. Ideally, wagons/carriages/trailers will have resistive wheelsets, in which case the same applies at the tail end of the train. Without resistive wheelsets, automation is going to have to make assumptions (or be told about) train lengths at all times. Wouter On Mon, 1 May 2023 at 19:39, Tim Kelley <tim.kelley@...> wrote: Thanks guys! |
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Re: Loco moving only during sensing decoder type | Decoder Pro
Good, that clears everything up, I think. You are clearly hoping that address 3007 is the one to use, and CVs 17 and 18 are set up correctly for that. However! That combination is a LONG address, and your loco is correctly configured to use that (as shown by CV29, which has bit 5 set, bit 0 being where you count from the right - if that interests you at all). Anyway: all good for address 3007. I hope your loco reacts to that. If not, then some real trouble begins! Looking at CV29, it appears you have DC operation witched ON. If you have no real reason to have that active, it is best to switch it off, which often prevents strange errors before they even occur. To do that, change CV29 to value 34 (bit 2 off). If you do need DC operation enabled, just leave it as it is, but you might run into weirdness at some point in the future. Wouter On Mon, 1 May 2023 at 18:36, Handrail-18 <thomas.mclaughlin2@...> wrote: Wow thank you guys for the help, It is greatly appreciated. Truly. |
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Tim Kelley
Thanks guys!
So it looks like each of my Peco ElectroFrog turnouts needs to be it's own block. I think what that means is regardless of whether the train is in the throat of the turnout or in any of it's 2 legs, that block must report as occupied. I think there are a couple of different ways to wire up a Peco Eletrcofrog turnout so I will revisit the youtube video (if I can find it again). Thanks, Tim |
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Tim Kelley
Hello again Jeremy,
Sorry...........I seem to remember that there may be 1 more step. Click on all of the SQUARES that are at the very bottom left hand corner of your screen. You might see your icons in there. If so drag them to the far left of the screen. Let me know if this works.........Or not! Tim |
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Tim Kelley
PLEASE NOTE THAT MARK's ORIGINAL QUESTION / ISSUE IS NOT ABOUT LOCKING HIS DECODER!!!! -=Tim
On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 01:04:13 PM CDT, Mark Granville <mfgranville@...> wrote:
Read this and look at the Tsunami section. It' slightly different from the standard for locking: John, nice write-up. Just one comment about the statement: “Note: Although not specifically stated, legal values for CV16 are limited to 1 to 7. Even then, Digitrax mentions 0 as a legal value. The author cannot test this as he does not use Digitrax decoders.” As you note, the NMRA standard does not give “legal values” for CV15 & 16. ESU, for example, gives 0-255 as allowed values for these CVs in the decoder manuals. As far as I know, all manufacturers allow 0. It has always been my understanding that the NMRA standard implies that 0 in CV16 means no lock. Most decoders come with 0 as default for both CVs. I’m sure you will find 0 to work just fine in whatever decoders you have. Now I need to test a few decoders to see if CV16=0 results in no lock independent of CV15 value. It may be that the default for decoders is unlocked because both CV15 and CV16 are 0. Mark Granville (different Mark) |
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Re: What would it take to enable "read full page" with Programming on the main? (when capable). Anyone have thoughts about thish?
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Its actually here?. Item 13. Apparently the local version, got from "Window Help" never updates the URL doesntalways update the URL as you hunt and peck. Steve G. |
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Tim Kelley
Good afternoon Jeremy,
This worked for me........ Create the following directory structure ~/.local/share/applications Create 2 text files in that applications directory Call one of them DecoderPro.desktop and the other one PanelPro.desktop The following is the contents of my DecoderPro.desktop file. The PanelPro.desktop file is very similar. [Desktop Entry] Name=DecoderPro Comment=Launch DecoderPro Terminal=false Icon=/home/timk/JMRI/resources/decoderpro.gif Type=Application Exec=/home/timk/JMRI/DecoderPro Replace /home/timk with whatever your home directory is All of my JMRI is installed in /home/timk/JMRI so you may need to change that. You may need to logout and log back in again before you will see the icons. they will appear on the far left hand side of the screen These files may be dependent on what display manager you are using. I think I'm using gnome but I'm not really totally sure. Hope this works for you. Tim |
开云体育Read this and look at the Tsunami section. It' slightly different from the standard for locking: John, nice write-up. Just one comment about the statement: “Note: Although not specifically stated, legal values for CV16 are limited to 1 to 7. Even then, Digitrax mentions 0 as a legal value. The author cannot test this as he does not use Digitrax decoders.” As you note, the NMRA standard does not give “legal values” for CV15 & 16. ESU, for example, gives 0-255 as allowed values for these CVs in the decoder manuals. As far as I know, all manufacturers allow 0. It has always been my understanding that the NMRA standard implies that 0 in CV16 means no lock. Most decoders come with 0 as default for both CVs. I’m sure you will find 0 to work just fine in whatever decoders you have. Now I need to test a few decoders to see if CV16=0 results in no lock independent of CV15 value. It may be that the default for decoders is unlocked because both CV15 and CV16 are 0. Mark Granville (different Mark) |
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I strongly agree with Dave about NOT using LibreOffice Writer to edit *text*
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(configuration, data, etc.) files. LibreOffice Writer is a *word processor* and is not really meant to be used as a plain text editor. It is all about editing *typeset* documentations. Linux has a whole selection of proper text editors, from nano (super simple) to emacs (super complex), specificly designed to edit plain text files (ASCII). At Mon, 01 May 2023 12:52:05 -0500 "Dave Sand" <ds@...> wrote:
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开云体育Tim, Basically a signal is used to "protect" a "block" from being entered by reason of some conflict, usually either a conflicting route alignment or occupancy by another train. A "block" is a section of track that may be occupied by only a single train at a time. A piece of track such as a turnout, a yard ladder, a level
crossing, or even a length of single track, are all potential
blocks. For a portion of track that can legitimately hold more than one train at the same time you would normally treat that as multiple blocks. Some examples would be a single or double crossover. In some configurations it may only allow one train to occupy it, but in other configurations there may be two trains. Therefore it must be at least two blocks, one for each possible simultaneous path. On the other hand a slip switch can only be occupied by a single
train at a time, because even if it has the same track connections
as a crossover, you can not occupy more than one path at a time.
It is therefore only a single block. From the level crossing example it should be obvious that the
same block (the diamond) can be a part of two unrelated routes.
This means that signals on two different routes sometimes need to
be interlocked with one another. In this case of a diamond, only
one of its four possible paths may be cleared at a time. For automated running even multi-turnout yard leads might need to be detected, but a single block may be all that is required for a whole lead track, again because only one train at a time is allowed to occupy it. As you are planning for signal blocks you can mentally proceed
along each track and make note of possible points of conflict
where one train may need to wait on another. Those are where you
will add block junctions. (gaps) If you have long sections of
single track (typically longer than a train length) you may add a
block gap and intermediate signal to allow one train to follow
another. The prototype does this often, but normally our models
don't allow us this luxury very often, if at all. It is not
uncommon for a loco to be entering one town before the cab has
left the previous one. Dick :) On 5/1/2023 12:05 PM, Tim Kelley wrote:
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Re: What would it take to enable "read full page" with Programming on the main? (when capable). Anyone have thoughts about thish?
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That link doesn't work. It points to your local harddrive. file:///home/sg/JMRI-Files/JMRI/help/en/local/index.html#package.apps.TabbedPreferencesI assume you wanted the link below, but I'm not sure what on that page you are referring to: --- Daniel Bergqvist JMRI developer 2023-05-01 19:25 skrev Steve_G: ScottIf you are using a loconet connection is the "Transponding |
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Re: Team track
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On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 08:19 AM, John Barone wrote:
Hi John, The program allows you to use the same physical track for several industries.? Use the "Pool" feature to do this. You would create a spur track for each of the industries that will use the team track. For example say you had three industries, you could create spurs with names like: Team Track?-> Ryan's Rebar, Team Track?-> Pete's Coal, Team Track?-> John's Lumber After creating the three tracks, you would "pool" them together.? See the help for more info. Dan |
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Jeremy, The Linux install was recently upgraded. ?See? I recommend you use the Linux text editor instead of LibreOffice Writer. Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: "jeremy.thompson2 via groups.io" <jeremy.thompson2=[email protected]> Subject: [jmriusers] Installation of JMRI on Ubuntu 22.04 Date: Monday, May 01, 2023 12:08 PM I am following the Guide for installation of JMRI on UBUNTU 22.04. It has all gone successfully, until the last step. I can run PanelPro and Decoder Pro from the command line but I would like to have desktop icons. I have followed the procedure to create the active Icons for both Panel Pro and Decoder Pro. However, neither of them work. I get the error message "This desktop file has errors, or points to a program without permissions. It cannot be executed." All the files, the desktop text files and the "Exec" files are all executable. I created the desktop files in LibreOffice Writer and saved the files as .txt files.? I then removed the .txt at the end of the name. Is there more I need to do to these text files? Thank you. Jeremy |
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Ah, I understand you, yes I only have one Cab in the form of the handheld Powercab, that could explain things, thanks.? Kind regards? Duncan? On Monday, May 1, 2023, 6:32 pm, Duncan via groups.io <dunradar09@...> wrote:
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I am following the Guide for installation of JMRI on UBUNTU 22.04. It has all gone successfully, until the last step. I can run PanelPro and Decoder Pro from the command line but I would like to have desktop icons.
I have followed the procedure to create the active Icons for both Panel Pro and Decoder Pro. However, neither of them work. I get the error message "This desktop file has errors, or points to a program without permissions. It cannot be executed." All the files, the desktop text files and the "Exec" files are all executable. I created the desktop files in LibreOffice Writer and saved the files as .txt files.? I then removed the .txt at the end of the name. Is there more I need to do to these text files? Thank you. Jeremy |
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Re: Loco moving only during sensing decoder type | Decoder Pro
Wow thank you guys for the help, It is greatly appreciated. Truly.
So I went and cleared everything I had in the roster, threw the loco on the programming track, and clicked "Identify", after moving backwards for a bit it a pop-up appeared and read "3007 was read from the decoder but has not been found in the roster" and that was it. After that I clicked "New Loco" and clicked "Read type from decoder" I selected one of the four highlighted Decoders, the "2 function decoder" and the long address read as "3007". On that same page I then clicked "Open Comprehensive Programmer". Once there I made the ID of the loco 3007, then went to the CV's tab and clicked "Read Full Sheet" and let the process complete. Here are the CV values: CV 1: 3 CV 2: 10 CV 3: 1 CV 8: 101 CV 17: 203 CV 18: 191 CV 29: 38 The column next to the CV values on the right reads" read" on all CVs. Also on the Comprehensive Programmer it says it has a primary address of 3, and extended address of 3007. I don't know if that is the method you all meant when it was said to identify the loco not from the roster, but that is the method I took. Thanks again, I truly appreciate it, Thomas |
开云体育If memory serves, EVERYTHING on the cab bus (with a cab ID) shows up. Pretty certain my NCE USB didPhil G On 1 May 2023, at 18:13, whmvd via groups.io <vandoornw@...> wrote:
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Re: What would it take to enable "read full page" with Programming on the main? (when capable). Anyone have thoughts about thish?
ScottIf you are using a loconet connection is the "Transponding Present" in advanced options set to yes as per item 13 here?file:///home/sg/JMRI-Files/JMRI/help/en/local/index.html#package.apps.TabbedPreferences
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