Being a retired scientist I of course tried to understand the theory instead of my usual method of just pushing the button labeled ‘Do Not Push This Button!’. For location coordinates have you tried using the same X,Y coordinates for locations as used in a Panel? Your Origin (0,0,0) would be the top left corner of the panel and the Listeners would be at locations farther out than the trackage. That seems the easiest way to do it since you already have those coordinates.
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Mike Heintzman
Modeling the P&PU since 1953

Something has gone wrong with your SUSQUEHANNA.xml panel file, and some needed content is missing at line 4424.

Were you editing or saving it recently?

There are likely to be backup copies that JMRI stored. You should find them and set them aside before doing anything else so they don’t accidentally get overwritten with bad content.

Another possibility is that this was there for a long time, and a recent update to JMRI has uncovered it. Did you update recently? Which version are you using now?

Bob

On May 13, 2020, at 7:59 AM, Bob McKay via groups.io <bobsprrnscale@...> wrote:


2020-05-13 10:55:41,886 configurexml.ErrorHandler ERROR - Parse error while parsing file /C:/Users/Friar%20Bob/JMRI/SUSQUEHANNA.xml Exception: org.jdom2.input.JDOMParseException: Error on line 4424: cvc-complex-type.2.4.b: The content of element 'signalmastlogic' is not complete. One of '{destinationMast}' is expected.
See for possibly more information. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
org.jdom2.input.JDOMParseException: Error on line 4424: cvc-complex-type.2.4.b: The content of element 'signalmastlogic' is not complete. One of '{destinationMast}' is expected.
at org.jdom2.input.sax.SAXBuilderEngine.build(SAXBuilderEngine.java:232)
at org.jdom2.input.sax.SAXBuilderEngine.build(SAXBuilderEngine.java:253)
at org.jdom2.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:1091)

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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...

Dear Ross where is it you set this? I assuming it’s somewhere in JMRI? As the ID and pop switch do not seem to be for that purpose, or am I wrong??

I forgot to add that it can also be controlled by JMRI as an accessory decoder.
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Dale Gloer
Layout Supervisor, Southern Alberta Model Railway Club

I'm not sure what you wish to automate - if you want to automatically set the turnout at the loop entrance then consider using a DCC Specialties Hare II (link to TTX page for description ).? It is inexpensive, easy to setup and install and will drive a Tortoise directly.? Our club has been using one for several years and it has been flawless.? Of course this in not a JMRI solution but it provides feedback for the switch position,? It also allows for local control via pushbuttons, etc.

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Dale Gloer
Layout Supervisor, Southern Alberta Model Railway Club

Doesn't matter. What you use it for is up to you.

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Peter Ulvestad

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I think that’s not an entirely correct interpretation. I understood the shared CVs enabled the sound decoder to receive throttle inputs (and others) so it could match engine, cylinders and exhaust speed etc. ?So the overlap was in the sound unit, instead of the motor decoder.?

Sometimes it's leftover com port assignments from previous devices. I like to use usbDeview from Nirsoft (free software) to clear them off of Windows machines. I now use Raspberry Pi's for model RR. Steve Todd's image is great!

If you want a really simple approach pick up a AR - 1 audio reverser module.? Let the reversing Loop take care of itself

Having looked at both definition files, I do not see why you would go to the trouble of adding the switch in this specific case.?
Since the DH165xx are fully compatible with the SFX specs, the SFX04 and DH165xx get along just fine.
They share about 10 CV's of which only 4 are critical (CV1, CV17, CV18, CV29). But since you want both decoders on the same address, no big deal.

Now if you used the SFX004 (or SFX006) or any SFX sound decoder? with some other non-SFX compatible motor decoder,? that is different but not what the question was about.

I put together a definition file that combines the SFX and DH165XX? data. This will create a single roster entry.? Need it tested as I do not own any SFX or DH165xx series? decoders.
It gets listed as? 'Series 3 DH165xx, FX3, Silent, readback' ? .. I wonder if it is event worth it. Others without the Soundbug will probably get confused as to which and why the sound does not work for them
when " the tab is there ".

Are you interested in it Phil ?

Marc

With the old SFX 004 and a motor Decoder in the same machine. it was advisable? to fit a miniature switch and wire? the decoders up to it to be able to turn one off while programing the other one ,then turning both? back on again afterwards if this is what you want to do with them ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??????????????????? Barry

You still have not clarified what your ultimate goal was ??? Two decoders on one address ?? Both decoders showing in the same Roster entry and not having to open
two definition/roster entries to program ?

Since the shared CV's must be on the same value and all others are not shared, it makes no difference that I can see.

The SFX series and particularly the SFX04 (and SFX06 that replaced it) Soundbug was designed to? be used with the DH165xx series of Digitrax decoders.

Marc

You might try using the PTB-100 with the older Tsunami decoder and the PR4.? The combination might work, then again it might not.?

My setup has the PTB-100 as a permanent fixture to my Programming environment.? I only use older Tsunami decoders as I have'nt purchased a new decoder in years..

Marc

The write ups on manufacturer web sites are unfortunately not updated as time goes by. Perfect example was the Digitrax PR3/PR4.

Windows 10 install had you go thru hoops and ladders to install the driver that had to come from Digitrax.? Years later, Microsoft added the drivers to the Windows 10 update and from there on
installing the driver was a no brainner, it just went thru without a hitch.? The convoluted install process is still provided by Digitrax because some people do not let Microsoft update there installed
Operating System. Those people follow the Digitrax steps and end on there butt.

Sprog is no exception.. The install instruction date from 2015 and are the convoluted type.? Same as above, let Microsoft update your Windows 10 install and all will go well.? If the instructions were so simple to follow, you should not need them at all.

Many of the issues are caused by the USERS and there will always be exceptions to the rules.

Even the knowledgeable get side swiped.? Dave Sand, for a friend,? installs? WinXP, Java 1.8.0_066, JMRI 4.18 and a Locobuffer-USB on a computer and hits errors and crap.?
I do exactly the same here and encounter no issue at all.? Go figure.? We are both doing nothing convoluted, just a basic install from scratch.

Marc

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