I haven't lost my roster in over 2 weeks after updating to a build a with subsequent updates including 4.19.6
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Dave,
The VAST majority of the time the object is a turnout. Some how?I have grabbed one of the legs & really moved the object beyond recognition. I do the basic layout at a zoom ratio (in this case it is 1:10) that lets me see the entire layout. I've never tried to set the zoom to 1:4 to re-adjust the turnout back to normal but that should work.
If I use your implied undo, then I need to be doing more save's. And that is something I'm learning & is simple enough to do. There are times I've seen the save being saved with the a date/time stamp append to the file name. That is a better way (to me) to name a backup but the date/time stamp is not there consistently for me. What do I need to do to get that to be appended on every save? It saves the message about overwriting the file.
What I've done is to delete some of these multiple detail saves & only keep the "major" saves. Looking at the LEPanel xml in Visual Studio, I've noticed there is a section labeled file history. I'm guessing that those that have no file name listed are those files that I deleted? Do I care about the blank entries or do they eventually get cleaned out?
If I could (make it an option?) get the save to always append a date/time stamp, that is great. Saving is simple so then an undo is not needed.
Thanks. Dennis Munro Berlin, WI
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:06 PM Dave Sand < ds@...> wrote: Dennis,
There is no specific "Undo".? The implied undo is stopping without storing and restarting. ?
Some people use a different file name for each store.? Others rely on the backupPanels directory which has the previous version from each store.? I use a mixture.
You don't say what you want to undo.? Most of the time a "redo" is all that is needed.? If you decide a left hand turnout should be a right hand, then yes, you need to delete it and add the correct one.
Dave Sand
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Subject: [jmriusers] Layout Editor Feature Request #layouteditor
Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 11:53 AM
My info is as follows:
Win 10 Pro?Version 1909?
Java 1.8.0_241(en)?
JMRI version 4.19.5ish?
Digitrax PR4 using Com port 3?
Digitrax DCS100 ONLY as a command station?
Digitrax DB150 ONLY as a booster
Layout Editor connection is Digitrax Simulator
This is my first major attempt to get a layout designed before laying too much more track.
I've entered info creating turnouts, track segments, & block tables.
No Results is displayed when I run the various Tools || Check option.
The blocks are in place & the turnouts work when clicking on them.
Sections will mimic blocks BUT not yet entered. ?
I will eventually remember what does what but I've butchered numerous objects on?the?LE grid so I just delete the?object & make a new object.
99 times out of 100 the object is a?TO.
One thing I would really appreciate is a way to "Undo" a mistake.
Or is that capability there & I just have not found it?
Thanks?
Dennis Munro
Berlin, WI
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There has been a lot of traffic on both Digitrax and JMRI. And of course, others that I'm not aware of. About connecting to JMRI with Windows 10. But I see similarity between the questions re. SPROG, PR3/4 & LocoBuffer. Apparently they all have trouble. And from what I can gather, the cure or fix is in Windows and appears to be the same fix. Disable the driver download from the Device Manager and install the driver direct from the source. So what I'm opening up here is "why don't someone write a simple step by step solution that can be in the Files". And whenever a newbie tries to connect to Windows 10, simply refer them to that file and stop all this traffic on the forums that seem to repeat themselves. If I'm wrong about the solution being the same for all/SPROG,PR3/4,LocoBuffer and/or any other, then I apologize for this. I'm new to JMRI and can only state what has been said many times. It's the greatest gift to MR and DCC ever. Morgan Bilbo, PRR fan
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I don't remember the difference between yard and I/C but the way things were explained to me in the begining I could not see why the way I wanted to run my RR why one would ever pick yard over I/C so I chose I/C works great for me. Cars coming in to the "yard" are sorted by next destination on the tracks which cuts down on the amount of switching done in the "yard" for outbound crews. Most of the time my crews kick 1 or 2 cars out of a track jjust because the is no place to go at that time.
I think it was Inspector Dave that got me on that particular rabbit hole. It works just the way it's supposed to in my mind, Thanks.?
Matt Greenwood
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Hi
Today I posted issue #8526 on Github related to this issue. I hope somebody can take a look at it.
Thanks in advance.
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Am 12.05.2020 um 16:08 schrieb Mike Heintzman: Haven’t had much chance to play with it but the new volume sliders work great. Thanks. Also been playing with ‘spatial sound’ but it’s making my brain sweat. Thanks for the first tests. Yeah, it's complicated. Did you focus more on theory or practical application? Klaus
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Thank you for your input. I will look again at the sound decoder instructions. Hopefully it will be successful.
Thanks again for your help. Phil
Furthering Marc’s response: ? My recollection is that the SFX004 ‘Sound Bug’ was specifically designed as an add-on sound decoder for Digitrax motor decoders.? There are ?‘common’ CV’s were both decoders ‘should’ be programmed the same and ‘exclusive’ CV’s, not included in the motor decoder, for sound customization.? ? The SFX004 manual says: ? QUOTE?? The SoundFX? sound CVs in the range of CV140 to CV256 let you customize your decoder without having to reprogram or change the installed sound scheme.? ? Standard decoder CVs in the range of CV01 to CV120 operate the same as fora non-sound FX3Digitrax decoders (they control motor and light functions etc.) CV58 is used as Master Volume, and CV60 is used to select an alternate scheme, if provided in the sound project.? END QUOTE ? This allows programming both decoders simultaneously without using a scheme (decoder lock; separate addresses, etc.) to program only 1 decoder at a time. ? As Marc says, a ‘combined’ decoder definition could be created for Digitrax decoders fitted with a Sound Bug. ? This is unlike other situations described, using a sound only decoder from one manufacturer with a motor decoder from another.? Many of these combinations often have conflicting CV assignments. ? My 2 cents. ? Ross ? ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of forfoum@...
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Digitrax sound decoder ? Interesting question that I have never seen before: combining two decoders into one definition file and subsequently a single roster entry.?
Could be done as these decoder do have a series of shared and not shared CV's.
A custom definition file needs to be built.? Combining Digitrax_SFX.xml with Digitrax_01x3.xml? or portions of both.
There is no JMRI tool to combine two definitions into a single Roster entry.
If this is what your question was about.
Marc
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Keith,
The Layout Editor code is in the midst of major changes. ?The continuing route feature is affected by those changes. ?For now you need to use the xml modification approach.
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] #4-19-6
Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:00 AM
I found it in my panel file and was able to fix it, but if you could please address this in the next version.
Thanks!
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 3:36 AM Keith Ruberson via <keithruberson= [email protected]> wrote: Gents,
It appears in JMRI version 4.19.6 that Edit Turnout window does not save the Continuing Route Turnout State when done is selected. I would change it in the xml file if i knew where to look.
Thanks,
Keith Ruberson
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Dennis,
There is no specific "Undo". ?The implied undo is stopping without storing and restarting. ?
Some people use a different file name for each store. ?Others rely on the backupPanels directory which has the previous version from each store. ?I use a mixture.
You don't say what you want to undo. ?Most of the time a "redo" is all that is needed. ?If you decide a left hand turnout should be a right hand, then yes, you need to delete it and add the correct one.
Dave Sand
----- Original message -----
Subject: [jmriusers] Layout Editor Feature Request #layouteditor
Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 11:53 AM
My info is as follows:
Win 10 Pro?Version 1909?
Java 1.8.0_241(en)?
JMRI version 4.19.5ish?
Digitrax PR4 using Com port 3?
Digitrax DCS100 ONLY as a command station?
Digitrax DB150 ONLY as a booster
Layout Editor connection is Digitrax Simulator
This is my first major attempt to get a layout designed before laying too much more track.
I've entered info creating turnouts, track segments, & block tables.
No Results is displayed when I run the various Tools || Check option.
The blocks are in place & the turnouts work when clicking on them.
Sections will mimic blocks BUT not yet entered. ?
I will eventually remember what does what but I've butchered numerous objects on?the?LE grid so I just delete the?object & make a new object.
99 times out of 100 the object is a?TO.
One thing I would really appreciate is a way to "Undo" a mistake.
Or is that capability there & I just have not found it?
Thanks?
Dennis Munro
Berlin, WI
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Furthering Marc’s response: ? My recollection is that the SFX004 ‘Sound Bug’ was specifically designed as an add-on sound decoder for Digitrax motor decoders.? There are ?‘common’ CV’s were both decoders ‘should’ be programmed the same and ‘exclusive’ CV’s, not included in the motor decoder, for sound customization.? ? The SFX004 manual says: ? QUOTE?? The SoundFX? sound CVs in the range of CV140 to CV256 let you customize your decoder without having to reprogram or change the installed sound scheme.? ? Standard decoder CVs in the range of CV01 to CV120 operate the same as fora non-sound FX3Digitrax decoders (they control motor and light functions etc.) CV58 is used as Master Volume, and CV60 is used to select an alternate scheme, if provided in the sound project.? END QUOTE ? This allows programming both decoders simultaneously without using a scheme (decoder lock; separate addresses, etc.) to program only 1 decoder at a time. ? As Marc says, a ‘combined’ decoder definition could be created for Digitrax decoders fitted with a Sound Bug. ? This is unlike other situations described, using a sound only decoder from one manufacturer with a motor decoder from another.? Many of these combinations often have conflicting CV assignments. ? My 2 cents. ? Ross ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of forfoum@...
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Digitrax sound decoder ? Interesting question that I have never seen before: combining two decoders into one definition file and subsequently a single roster entry.?
Could be done as these decoder do have a series of shared and not shared CV's.
A custom definition file needs to be built.? Combining Digitrax_SFX.xml with Digitrax_01x3.xml? or portions of both.
There is no JMRI tool to combine two definitions into a single Roster entry.
If this is what your question was about.
Marc
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My info is as follows:
Win 10 Pro?Version 1909?
Java 1.8.0_241(en)?
JMRI version 4.19.5ish?
Digitrax PR4 using Com port 3?
Digitrax DCS100 ONLY as a command station?
Digitrax DB150 ONLY as a booster
Layout Editor connection is Digitrax Simulator
This is my first major attempt to get a layout designed before laying too much more track.
I've entered info creating turnouts, track segments, & block tables.
No Results is displayed when I run the various Tools || Check option.
The blocks are in place & the turnouts work when clicking on them.
Sections will mimic blocks BUT not yet entered.
?
I will eventually remember what does what but I've butchered numerous objects on?the?LE grid so I just delete the?object & make a new object.
99 times out of 100 the object is a?TO.
One thing I would really appreciate is a way to "Undo" a mistake.
Or is that capability there & I just have not found it?
Thanks?
Dennis Munro
Berlin, WI
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Howard,
When the PR4 lights alternate Red/Green, that means that the PR4 is in "Ops programming mode". You will need to press the "ops" button to "exit ops mode". This is mentioned in the Digitrax "Knowledge Base" article KB1057, available at .
Regards,
Billybob
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Howard,
In my experience, Rich S's statement that "The Digitrax PR4 will only work on COM Port 3" _IS NOT TRUE_.
My current JMRI configurations on a Windows machine show that I have successfully used PR4 devices at COM7 and COM17, including one JMRI configuration profile where I had set-up two different LocoNet connections, one per PR4.
So far as I know, the whole idea behind a "COM port number" is solely something used by the operating system as a convenient "handle" to allow software to communicate with a "communications hardware" device. The PR4 itself has absolutely no idea of the COM port number the software and operating system use. If the PR4 did require knowledge of that COM port number, then how could it be used with computers running Linux and OSX operating systems, which do NOT identify communications devices via "COM port number"? I have no problems running JMRI with the PR4 under Linux!
Do you have a BDL16, BDL162, or BDL164 board? Will it be used with the Standalone LocoNet? If not, then ignore Russ's message, as it would be irrelevant.
If you do have at least one of those boards, and you will use it on your Standalone LocoNet, then you will need to configure exactly ONE BDL16x board for those settings. The settings can be made using a LocoNet throttle plugged directly into the LocoNet jack of a powered-up BDL16x board, by following the directions for configuring OpSw settings in the BDL16x manual. If you do not have a LocoNet throttle, then I think you are "out of luck" for programming the BDL16x to those settings until you come up with an alternate solution for both "LocoNet Data Signal Termination" and "power on the RailSync" wires (as described in the web page I previously linked).
Regards,
Billybob
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I only use staging, spurs
and C/I tracks mainly because I
don't have a good idea as how to use a yard track.
Is there a reference where I could better understand the role of
a yard track in the Ops scheme of things?
Doug
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Managed to sort out the com port issue. the PR4 is now on Com4. and the MRC is still on Com 3.? which is a worry if there is a problem which I not seen yet as Rich in this thread as Rich has the ports reversed.?
I had to go back to start and do the whole windows set up as per the documentation.? perhaps I should have read it first!??
So far. managed to do this part.?As per Billybobs directions.
"You will need to carefully set up JMRI for your Standalone LocoNet. Create a JMRI connection, and configure it as a PR4, and "lie" about the command station type -simply define it as any of the command station types. Make sure that your connection's "Defaults" settings (i.e. Edit->Preferences->Defaults) do _not_ select the LocoNet connection for "Throttles", "Power Control", "command station", "service programmer", "Ops Mode Programmer" or "Consists"
I created a picture file (Howards Pictures) with screen shots of what I have now..? The PR4 has red and green lights flashing alternatively.?
I wanted to check back before going blindly on.
I also included the power supply I have feeding the bus wire for turnout controls (Mega points) and feeding my BDL168s.? I have three installed so far, but no loco net connected up.?
I will next try and set up one as a terminator? I presuming the PR4 cant do that?
Ross gave me the setting for this.
The BDL168 can 'terminate' a stand-alone LocoNet.
Option Switch 11 (Thrown) -- Allow this BDL168 to be the master.
Option Switch 12 (Thrown) -- Allow this BDL168 to terminate LocoNet.
Stupid question where am I doing this are these to two buttons on the board?? The manual refers to the keyboard, so is there somewhere I am observing this. Or am I counting flashes??
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Basically you can’t, because it isn’t a single decoder. It’s two decoders and you will need to treat it as such.
Mick
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Phil,
These are actually two decoders in one Lok. So you may need to program them separately.
Look at the CV15/16 protocols.?
This is similar to the Blue Line Loks that has OEM sound, but required a regular decoder to control the motor.
Most folks I know installed an actual sound decoder to decrease the hassles managing two decoders in one Lok.
Thomas
DeSoto, TX?
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I think, now there were two entries. One for motor decoder one for sound. They shared a common address, this the locking step to program and/or read each one.? Then again reading was often problematic at that time anyway, except for the simplest decoders.? Christopher See -- 1976 R90/6 disguised as an S 2015 F800gs
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On May 12, 2020, at 8:43 AM, whmvd <vandoornw@...> wrote:
? Single roster entry would also mean you can't reliably read back values anymore - two decoders on the program track... which would you expect to respond?
Wouter
Do you mean recognized as a single address or do you mean as a single Roster entry ?
Single Roster?? is a tad complicated and would require you create a custom? 'Definition file' combining both the Digitrax_0SFX.xml with the Digitrax_01x3.xml? or portions of them.?
There is no JMRI tool to do this.
Marc
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I use it for the real life builder.? It’s free form I suspect unless you belong to a club, which might have specific uses for each field.? Christopher See -- 1976 R90/6 disguised as an S 2015 F800gs
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On May 12, 2020, at 8:40 AM, whmvd <vandoornw@...> wrote:
? Decoder manufacturer, even.
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