One thing, as a newbie, I'm learning, is that when learning JMRI, I run multiple sessions?over and over in minutes to see how actions work, what goes where, how cars flow etc. But in practice, if you operate the physical layout, once a month, and a car is called once every 6th time or even 12th time for an industry, that's only once or twice a calendar year. Which I think is the end goal at some level to see something only show up rarely.?
And, if you have say 4 schedules for an industry, with percentages, you'll see the lower ones used less often, which is the goal, but eventually, it does get called.?
Just tons of options. Curious which option works?best for you.?
Mike O'Neill Parker, CO
My current thinking is to create two of the same location. Each with a different car, Put both locations in the build but only activate the one I want to use for the build. I have not tried this so I cannot say it works
Jerry Hampton
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Hi Steve
The panel was created with Panel Editor.
It seems weird that it is only turnouts with more than two roads that are affected.
I have uploaded a copy of the xml file into the files area.? The file is named Ordsall park rd mk2
regards
Brian
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My current thinking is to create two of the same location. Each with a different car, Put both locations in the build but only activate the one I want to use for the build. I have not tried this so I cannot say it works
Jerry Hampton
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My thanks for your suggestions. My concern with schedules is the repetitive nature unless the schedule is canceled.
Jerry Hampton
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Roger,
One thing to keep in mind about any 'drive on' programming track, some locos
move while being programmed! Early ones were the worst, they could move feet
if you were doing a complete rewrite of the CV's. Most modern ones are smart
enough to alternate the direction of the 'ack' pulse so they just dither in
place. But even with those, they can creep along. Given that modern sound
decoders might take thousands of writes to configure, if the mechanism of
the loco favors one direction or the other, it could still creep.
The point is many use a physical barrier, look up 'smash board', you'll get
an idea. The other is some use a 4PDT switch so there is a dead block
between the programming track and the rest of the layout. That way if a loco
was creeping, it would lose contact with the programming track before it
could bridge to the main track. Any connection between the main track power
and the programming track power will fail components. IE loss of magic
smoke.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.org
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Inobu,
This is wrong, it doesn't work the way you claim. You said:
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On boot up JMRI is looking to contact the Power Cab Command station but it
will not be able to communicate with it until NCE USB interface is
established. The NCE USB interface will not go active until it gets a Cab
ID.
After the Power Cab gives the Cab ID to the USB interface its not looking to
do anything else and that handshake transaction is complete. Mean while JMRI
is reporting no communication with the Power Cab and just cycles through.
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The NCE USB has a cab id set in its internal configuration. The value of the
cab id is based on a few things: which jumper settings, which firmware
version, and use of the 'set cab id' option. The latter only changes the
default cab id if the right choice of jumpers is being used. Many of the
jumper settings force it to cab id 3. Only if the jumpers are set right, and
a 'set cab id' has been done, would any other id be used by the NCE USB.
All JMRI is doing on its startup is asking which settings are in the
interface. That's the whole purpose of the AA command. JMRI has no care
about which cab id the interface is programmed to use. It would seem you've
gotten off on the wrong foot with this statement.
Now it is correct that until the AA command works, other traffic to the NCE
USB will not work either.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.org
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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George - i can consistently get the following situation to exhibit the issue: panels->new panel->layout editor options->grid options->show grid in edit mode [turn this off] options->grid options->snap when adding options->grid options->snap when moving turnout RH: shift-click to put this somewhere on panel turnout LH: shift-click to put this to the right of the first TO aligned horizontally but not touching right click/hold on the red square of the points end of the LH TO and drag (extending the line of the TO) to try to connect to the red square on the normal end of the RH TO. ?[ I can¡¯t get these to connect] alternatively, if I extend the normal end of the RH TO to attempt to meet the points and of the LH TO, that won¡¯t connect either. If I move the entire LH TO, it will connect most of the time (I thought I had a time or two when it didn¡¯t connect, but I couldn¡¯t reproduce consistently). ?Also, as I play around with extending and moving the ends of the TOs, there are times when I can no longer grab the points and of the TO which I extended. ?Obviously a somewhat obscure bug somewhere.
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Hope this helps in debugging. ?As I said, there is an easy workaround of just adding a track segment between the TOs manually so definitely not a high priority.
And thanks for making Layout Editor such an incredibly useful and sophisticated tool!
Jerry
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Thanks, it wasn¡¯t so much the bargain but the speed in which Amazon could get me the cable. Lack of patience, turns out, probably gonna cost me more time. Bruce in Mt. airy MD
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Bruce,
On 1 Jan 2020, at 11:15 AM, burrettmd <burrett@...> wrote:
Cable driver help needed! so I went out and bought myself a USB to RS 232 serial cable advertised as with FTDI chipset. When I received the cable, The specifications sheet does not list FTDIE but says the chipset is an FT 232 and ZT213. It also came with a driver disc, which my laptop does not have a CD at all so is Not usable. That's exactly why I recommend spending ~$30 on buying an ESU or RRCirKits supplied genuine FTDI cable rather than buying a "bargain".
Dave in Australia
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Bruce, On 1 Jan 2020, at 11:15 AM, burrettmd <burrett@...> wrote:
Cable driver help needed! so I went out and bought myself a USB to RS 232 serial cable advertised as with FTDI chipset. When I received the cable, The specifications sheet does not list FTDIE but says the chipset is an FT 232 and ZT213. It also came with a driver disc, which my laptop does not have a CD at all so is Not usable. That's exactly why I recommend spending ~$30 on buying an ESU or RRCirKits supplied genuine FTDI cable rather than buying a "bargain". Dave in Australia
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John, On 2 Jan 2020, at 12:56 AM, John <jonie41@...> wrote:
Wasn't there a post in 2018 or later where a fellow connected all his Light-Its
in parallel gave them all the same address, programmed the functions all at
once, then disconnected them all, then connected them one at a time to give each
a unique address? That's certainly possible with Program on Main. Dave in Australia
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Can you explain what this means please?
"penultimate" block
Thanks, Ken
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No it cannot.
The LNWI basically implements a minimal version of the WiThrottle protocol, allowing smartphones to run trains, nothing else.?
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You need a full function computer interface.? Some recent Digitrax systems include those, or there is the long established LocoBuffer USB device, or Digitrax¡¯
own PR3/PR4 products.
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Subject: [jmriusers] Using JMRI via LNWI Wifi throttle interface
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HI,
I have a Digitrax LNWI Loconet Wifi Interface and was wondering if JMRI can be connected to program and run through that??
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Hi Brian,?
What type of panel is it? Layout Editor, Panel Editor or Control Panel Editor?
If you'll post your panel file somewhere, we can take a look.
Also, there have been changes to the client-side panel code, so make sure to refresh the page to get the new code to your browser. I'd also suggest you open a browser on your local machine and advise if the same problem occurs.
--SteveT
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HI,
I have a Digitrax LNWI Loconet Wifi Interface and was wondering if JMRI can be connected to program and run through that??
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?Cable driver help needed! ? so I went out and bought myself a USB to RS 232 serial cable advertised as with FTDI chipset. When I received ?the cable, The specifications sheet does not list FTDIE but says the chipset is an FT 232 and ZT213. It also came with a driver disc, which my laptop does not have a CD at all so is Not usable. So following the instructions I went to the webpage to download a driver and when I get there it tells me that new drivers are now available to support the FT4222H and 4D2XX drivers it also has in the instruction area A line that says FTDI drivers are available for windows CE 4.2 to 5.2 6.0 to 7.0 and 2013 I am running windows 10. I also have no clue what FT4222H or D2XX might be. The cable I purchased is a Ditech DT 5031 from Amazon Suggestions? ?Thanks Bruce in Mt. Airy, MD
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I'm just about to start construction of a new layout and over the christmas period have been constructing a ne panel in panel pro.
All seems fine and works ok in panel pro. but when I started WiThrottle on my i-pad and connected to jmri to check how the panel looked the double slips and 3 way point icons were missing. All the other icons are OK.
When I checked the panel in wi throttle under my jmri the screen shot of the panel looks ok and shows the panel as complete.
I thought at first it was due to upgrading to 4.18 but having done a clean install? back to 4.16 the problem still remains.
Anyone have any ideas why the the double slips and three way points would not be showing in wi throttle?
Many thanks
Brian
The panel was constructed from scratch and most of the icons have also been created from scratch.
I have currently set the prefferences to load the panel and start withrottle.
The DCC interfaces are set for NCE and NCE simulator ready for connection to the Powercab once the new layout out is built.
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I connected a siding that was isolated from the main line by insulating connectors. I then attached a power connection to that siding and to an Atlas power router. Thus I could select programming track on the NCE Power Cab, route the NCE Power cab solely to that siding and perform the changes to CV. Once that was finished, I could run the locomotive onto the main line. That simple. Did not need boosters or any other devices.
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Wasn't there a post in 2018 or later where a fellow connected all his Light-Its
in parallel gave them all the same address, programmed the functions all at
once, then disconnected them all, then connected them one at a time to give each
a unique address?
John
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Date: January 1, 2020 at 2:04 AM
Tim,
On 1 Jan 2020, at 5:43 PM, Tim Norton <Acka_norton@...> wrote:
i am looking at using NCE LIGHT-it decoders for my signals is there a video
on how to wire them up and program them I will be using NCE BD20¡¯s for block
detection. This may answer some of your questions:
Light-It with JMRI
The Light-It can easily be set to Signal Decoder mode.
JMRI provides full support to the decoders, both via Program on Main (the only
programming mode these decoders support) and as DCC Signal Heads.
To get the Light-It into Signal Decoder mode on almost any DCC system:
- Attach the Light-It to your DCC track bus (the rails)
- Create a Roster Entry using the "Light-It - Signal mode" definition. (Auto
identify is not possible).
- Go to the Basic pane, check the warning about Preferences, enter the desired
Signal Address, Save and Close.
- Reopen the roster entry in POM mode and go to the Basic pane.
- Make sure nothing on your layout is busy sending Turnout or Signal commands
(these will upset address programming).
- Press the gold programming button on the Light-It board.
- While the LEDs are still flashing, Write Full Sheet on the Basic Pane.
- The LEDs should stop flashing as soon as you Write. Try again if needed.
- The decoder should now be in Signal mode and accept Aspect or POM commands.
To use/test the Light-It in Signal mode:
- Open the Signal Head table.
- Add a DCC Signal Decoder with the same hardware address as you set in the
roster entry. You must tick the Offset Address checkbox for these decoders,
irrespective of your DCC system.
- Test by setting various Appearances, but be aware that the default mapping
in JMRI is not the same as the default mapping in the Light-It. You need to
either change the Appearance numbering for the Head in JMRI, or reprogram the
decoder.
Here is a sample numbering system that matches the decoder's defaults.
Appearance Numbering:
Dark: 31
Red: 0
Yellow: 1
Green: 2
Lunar: 15 (all on)
Flasing Red: 3
Flashing Yellow: 4
Flashing Green: 5
Flashing Lunar: 30 (all flashing)
If you create JMRI Masts using existing Signal Head(s) in "Signal Head
Controlled Mast", there is no problem.
If you create JMRI Masts using "DCC Signal Mast Decoder", there is a problem
because the checkbox for the needed Offset Address is not present (there is a
current GitHub issue for this).
Dave in Australia
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Wouter,
There is no pending melt down as I posted the original thread for Dave to read. After that there's nothing else to be said.
If you look at Larry's last comment "Any thoughts of help to troubleshoot and resolve would be appreciated."
I understand that my posting isn't anything official and can be deleted if need be. I'm ok with it.
I think I'll end my posting on this topic here as I've gained a lot of knowledge in this exchange.?
Inobu
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Inobu, Dave,
Going to stick my neck out here, with a mention that descending into bickering is not helpful to anyone.
Both of you obviously have a lot of knowledge. Dave has a lot more mileage on this forum where he is universally respected. But that does not invalidate anyone else's aqcuired knowledge and experience. I wonder if the best solution, not just to the impending meltdown but even more in terms of helping other users, is taking this off-line?
If not, then I would respectfully ask Inobu to homour Dave and answer his queries - because it seems a constructive way forward. It doesn't matter to readers here who's right. What matters is a useful outcome and averting acrimony. Who's right will emerge at the end of the problem finding mission, not at the beginning. And to almost anyone, it doesn't matter anyway.
Pretty please. Wouter
On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 12:02, Inobu One via Groups.Io <one2beros= [email protected]> wrote: Dave,
I don't think you really understand the issue at hand. How can to even clam to test the issue when you don't have a Raspberry Pi 4.
That makes no sense what so ever. That is like someone complaining that they are having problems with a Ford and you tell them
I just test drove a Toyota and I don't see the problem.
If any of your test cases encompassed a 15 minute waiting period then you surely don't understand the problem or issue at hand. The issue is within? seconds. More so you are trying to argue a point with no knowledge
in what "Buster" does with the ttyUSB0 time out.??
This is the original trouble post......
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 05:45 AM, Larry wrote:
I ordered a Raspberry Pi 4 and am using Steve Todd's wonderful image to run JMRI.? I can access the desktop at 192.168.6.1 perfectly and everything appears fine except that I can never get my NCE PowerCab to connect.? I disabled the autoidentify and set the preferences up manually choosing NCE USB.? I always get error: Unable to connect on ttyxxxx
It looks like there are 2 ports, ttyS0 and ttyAMA0.? I tried both of them in preferences but neither worked.
What am I missing here?? I had this working on a Windows laptop some time ago with the exact same NCE USB PowerCab setup.
Any thoughts of help to troubleshoot and resolve would be appreciated.
-Larry
Its like going to the doctor and saying I have a headache and he says no you don't none of my other patients are complaining.? lol
Inobu
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Ken Cameron