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I have a couple of crossovers done that way 1 using curved turnouts, the other is in a small yard to access a headshunt and a couple of sidings.

As an aside, a crossover made that way is a great way to avoid the otherwise inevitable S-curve, hence it would naturally be more common on layouts.

Blair

One interesting side of how LCC treats the events. You could have two
turnouts (or sensors) who differ by which is the active state. One example
would be some of the odd crossovers where one turnout is reverse while the
other is normal for the route. Think a crossover using one left and one
right turnout. Not very normal but I've seen them on layouts.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Great info guys. Thanks for sharing. I'm now convinced that OpSw14 was the culprit.
And while I'm here,? special shout out to Ken for all his awesome contributions to JMRI!
Best Regards,
Chris

Ken,? I'm powering from a wall wart that shares with one of my BDLs. ? No track power.? But it does get a rail sync connection to my NCE command station via 1 wire of the RJ12 connection. ?

I am running successfully (at my simple level)? Panelpro to control
locos and points.? Everytime I end a session and hit the quit button
it reminds me to save my fast clock but I am unable to find this particular command.?
All other panels are saved without a problem.? I am running JMRI panel pro 4.12+Rb6a9bb1.
Any help gratefully received,? regards Bob.?

Yes I have DBL168 installed and working Just was wondering what was next. I've setup the tablets and so far just basic control. I still need to design routes and started thinking about using signals to help crews on where to go. I have a couple of hidden switchs that control direction and would like to help crews on what to do. Will take a better look at this soon, thanks.

I have Ubuntu and Java installed, but JMRI cannot see any serial ports, does anyone have ideas on how to expose them, the JMRI instructions say to change the permissions, but it expects you to know the addresses, and I am not sure Chrome OS makes them available to crouton/Ubuntu.
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On Dec 2, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Daniel Kubarych <danandsharek@...> wrote:

?I understand there are work arounds to get the turnout behavior that we seek. Plan A was use the inverted option. That will not work because the option is grayed out. I am sure there is a Plan B and a Plan C. My original question was "Why is the inverted option grayed out?" Is it an idiosyncrasy of LCC?

Not all systems JMRI supports have invert options.

It really is there for two cases:
1) you miss-wire the physical turnout actuator ( which isn’t always possible...)
2) when you have to install the turnout actuator backwards.

Since LCC events don’t know if they are for the “Normal” or “Reverse” position, they don’t really care about the physical layout. We give them the associated meaning in JMRI when we associate them with a turnout.

Paul

Absolutely correct and the reason I deleted my " wrong interpretation " post. Just an average Joe, unfortunately.

Marc

Marc,

I believe you have interpreted the table in the SE8C manual incorrectly - something that I have done many times in the past; those tables make sense to the engineer at Digitrax, and perhaps a few others, but the average joe often finds them difficult to understand.

Doug Stuard tested the SE8C operation very carefully with respect to SE8C OpSw14 and documented his findings. My notes show that he provided his test results in post # 163882, but I cannot determine which list, and on which site, that post came from. Searches of the jmriusers groups.io list did not find that post.

Doug found that the default, SE8C OpSw14=Thrown, made the SE8C respond ONLY to the turnout control packets found on the DCC track signal on the "RailSync" wires. LocoNet "Data" wires were ignored (for signal control) when OpSw14=Thrown.

He found that when SE8C OpSw14=Closed, the SE8C responded ONLY to the turnout messages found on the LocoNet "Data" wires. The DCC track signal on the "RailSync" wires was ignored in this case.

Regards,
Billybob

Andy,

The short flippant answer is 'coz that's how it was written' ;-)

However, what should be the case is that each of the 'Add' dialogs provide (at least) three buttons - 'OK', 'Apply', 'Cancel'.

Behaviour of each of these as follows:

'OK' - create/make the changes specified then close
'Apply' - create/make the changes specified but remain open
'Cancel' - discard changes/abort creation then close

It would be good to know which dialogs you've noticed that are not following this convention so that we can sort out consistent behaviour throughout.

Thanks.

Best regards,

Matt H

Hi Dave
I've tried dev build and all looks fine to me. Thanks for tracking it down and fixing it!

As a side note, is there a particular reason that some of the 'Tables' Add dialogs close after adding a new item (such as sensors and turnouts) whereas others (such as Memory Variables and block) stay open and allow further additions until they are actively closed?

Thanks
Andy

Chris,

Which way are you powering the Se8c? I think if it is using track for power,
it sees the turnout commands that way. Most people find it much more stable
using a wall wart for power.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.org
www.syracusemodelrr.org

Wayne,

In JMRI, a "Virtual Signal" is simply one which does not correspond to any physical hardware.

If you wish to create a "Virtual Signal", using JMRI's "Aspect signaling" and "Signal Mast" system, "simply":
. Open the Signal Mast table ("Tools->Tables->Signals->Signal Masts").
. Activate that window's "add" button. This pulls up the "Add/Edit Signal Mast" tool window.
- Select a User Name (I would use the word "virtual" somewhere in there, as a reminder!).
- Select the appropriate "Signal System" - probably the same as your other signals, assuming that you are using JMRI's "Aspect Signaling".
- Select the appropriate "mast type"
- Select the appropriate "mast driver". To add a "virtual mast", you do not associate the signal mast with physical hardware, such as selecting "Turnout Controlled Mast".
- For a "Turnout Controlled Mast", for each aspect shown, select "Create New" and "Internal". Enter a number for the JMRI "internal" turnout which is to activate the aspect, and choose a "set state" to be associated with the aspect. No two (or more) aspects should use the same "internal" turnout number/"Set State" combination.
- As necessary, disable those aspects which the mast supports but which you do not want your "virtual mast" to display.
- Once all the aspect information is filled in, select the "Create" button at the bottom of the window.

"Et voila!" You have created a "virtual signal". You may use it like any other signal mast.

- You may place it on a Layout Editor panel.
- On a Layout Editor panel you may use it as part of "discovered" signal mast pairs.
- On a Layout Editor panel, you may mark it there as "hidden when not editing" so that it does not show up on any displayed panel.

"Simple?" Maybe not so simple, but not difficult, either.

Regards,
Billybob

Wayne,

? ? ?Are you using sensors for your hidden track?? Have you created blocks with those sensors?? ?I use virtual signal masts at the junction between certain blocks for traffic control.? Dont need the SE8C unless you want to display them on the physical layout.

Roger

You don't need any hardware as the signals are virtual, that is they don't physically exist. The can be created either as heads or masts as there is a virtual option for both. All my buffer stops are virtual signals as they are needed for signal mast logic, even though they don't change aspect.

Hi Dave,

Fix works for me, has also resolved?

Again thanks for your time on this,

Steve.

Duncan,

For each track that has a schedule, select none or blank in the edit track window.? That will remove that schedule from the track.? You can later re-select the schedule if you want to.? In the Locations window, under tools, there's print or preview, there you can get a list of your schedules that have been assigned to a spur.

Dan

Guys,

I am trying to setup some panels using Firefox Tablets. The first two seem to work fine. I was reading somewhere that I could add virtual signals to them. Can somebody point me to a tutorial? I'm looking to use this on my hidden staging area If I can.

I'm currently using a Digitrax system, will I need to buy a SE8C to do this?

Wayne