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Re: Operations - Question from a beginner
#operationspro
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýPaul A pick-up and a set out is 2 moves.. Set your moves to 4 and you s/b ok. Jim E. On 9/20/2019 5:08 PM, csxpaul@...
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Hi. I just joined the group because I am new to JMRI (and model railroading) and have questions about the program. |
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Re: Bucklew's tutorial part 3
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 06:45 PM, <haltz@...> wrote:
As per the directions above the file links, you must save the files. copied below If using Firefox, right click on the link and select "Save Link As" and place it in a convenient directory to load from JMRI. If using Internet Explorer, right click on the link and select "Save Target As" and place it in a convenient directory to load from JMRI. If using Safari on a Mac, right click on the link and select "Download Linked File As..." as shown. Safari screen shotPlace it in a directory convenient to load from JMRI. -- Peter Ulvestad JMRI Users Group Moderator - ( ) Tam Valley Group Moderator - ( ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - ( ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association - |
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Unsupported decoder: Uhlenbrock 74120
G'day, I've just added a 74120 to my collection of decoders without checking to see if it was supported first--oops!
Since it isn't, is there support for it in the pipeline, and in the meantime, is there some way I can get control of it to at least change the address? I can run it on ops using address 3 but can't change anything, I just get 308 errors. The defaults aren't so bad but the default address will not do. Adding decoder support seems to be fairly involved, but I could possibly have a swing at it myself if someone can point me to how this is done. I have all the docs with the decoder of course, but no real idea how JMRI stores this info. Could I perhaps use the existing 76425 definition as a starting point? Thank you! Charles |
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Operations - Question from a beginner
#operationspro
Hi. I just joined the group because I am new to JMRI (and model railroading) and have questions about the program.
I have a location with one spur long enough to hold two flatcars. All my trains (so far) stop at this location. I have the move count set to two at this location and pick-up and drop off are enabled. The spur only accepts loaded flatcars. Also, random is set to off. However, the program creates switch lists which only have one move at that location when two are possible.? The only thing I can think of is it has something to do with the fact that the train length in settings is set to the length of trains I will want to run when the layout is finished and I have all the rolling stock I will need (right now I probably have less than half). Does the program prioritize train length (that is to say try to keep the staging tracks being used full) over car movement? I would love to hear any ideas any of you have about why this happens. Thanks Paul |
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Re: Bucklew's tutorial part 3
Thanks, Nick. I now understand the naming a bit better. But I'm unable to find the xml files for the tutorials. I see no reference to them on the mentioned site, and on?http://www.quaker-valley.com/CTC/JMRI_Panel_Tutorial.html there is a link to download each of the three tutorial xml files, but when I click on it, either on my Windows PC or on my iPhone, I get a blank screen and nothing downloads. How can I contact you off-list? Thanks.
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Marc,
On 21 Sep 2019, at 1:37 AM, forfoum@... wrote:Sorry, what I should have said is that "the numbers stored in CV1 and CV19 are both short addresses". Dave in Australia |
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Re: Bucklew's tutorial part 3
Nick
Hi Hal, Bob's tutorials are the best and I have used them often when I need to learn something new. I think what you are missing is the signals are not identified for their physical location . Think in a more linear manner. A? railroad does not run in a circle . They run by compass point on their timetable . North / South or East / West. The signals control traffic in an Eastbound direction on the railroad . Hence the names Easston and Westville. The xml file for the third tutorial is at the same location as the site you posted. I have it if you contact me off-list. Regards, Nick Kulp "I'm not a failure. I started at the bottom and I found it easily attainable. Life is too short to set unattainable goals" - Nick Kulp
On Friday, September 20, 2019, 04:00:49 PM EDT, haltz@... <haltz@...> wrote:
Hello all. I'm trying to figure out how to use signal heads and SSL and am finding Robert Bucklew's tutorial 3 () very helpful. But I have two questions: 1. does anyone know where I can find a panel file (xml) for the finished product of this tutorial? 2. I'm confused about the naming of the signal heads. On page 3 are instructions for adding 4 heads: 4 East Upper, 4 East Lower, 4 West main, and 4 West Siding. On subsequent pages these signals are all placed in the northWEST corner of the layout, if I'm not mistaken. I'm puzzled why the upper and lower are called East since they are placed in the west portion of the layout. What am I missing? Thanks, Hal. |
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Re: Signal Mast Appearance definition file
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHal, Do not be fooled into thinking that SSL is simpler than aspect based signaling. It most definitely is not. The 'Simple' in the name means Simplistic, not easy. You wind up having to do strange things and add invisible signals to do even easy things like crossovers properly. It was all that was originally available in JMRI until things got advanced enough so that JMRI could follow actual prototype rules. Now that JMRI can use actual signal rules for different railroads, using SSL is sort of like filling out your taxes with quill pen and abacus instead of getting a copy of Quicken because you want to keep things 'simple'. There is no more reason to understand the details of the aspect
based signaling control files than there is a need to understand
your ECU in order to drive to work. Dick :) On 9/20/2019 4:06 PM, haltz@...
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Thanks all for the clarifications. I'll try to digest it all (with a Tums or two), but for now, since I'm just starting with signalling, I think I'm gong back to SSL and signal heads. Thanks again! Hal |
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Re: Control number of lines going to printer per page-OPERATIONS
The program calculates how many lines should fit.? Could you try printing to a pdf file and see if all of the lines are there?? Seems like a printer issue.
Dan |
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Control number of lines going to printer per page-OPERATIONS
Frank in Houston
I have my Manifests ready to print. ?First I want to print my CAR FILE. ?When I do print the car file (or my manifests) the page layout is larger than a normal page of printing and I lose the last line which should be printed. ?I am using the latest release 4.17.4?
How do I control the number of lines that will be printed PER PAGE on a multiple page document. ?I have selected the 4.5 - 11 option. ?I need to increase the space of the borders so I do not lose data to be printed. ?When I print the MANIFESTS I do not print the last line to be printed and it DOES NOT carry over to the next page, THANK YOU....FRank in Houston |
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Re: Problem to reset slots with JMRI
Jacques, The same OpSw 36 problem has been around since DCS 100/200 and our club has been working on that issue for several years. With a lot of help from Billybob and several other members on this group, we have come to the conclusion that a combined script and manual activity is mandatory. The script is automatically run in the Start Up sequence. Most of script code deals with a GUI that provides a dialog window that instructs the person to flip a toggle switch on the front of the command station, and to some extent also detects that the person has probably completed that activity. Since both a jython subfolder and a resources subfolder that cumulatively contain three files are involved a zip file has been uploaded for your review. Without any experience using a DCS 240, it is impossible for me to believe that these could be used without serious modification. However, at least some of this information may provide you with some clues. Cliff in Baja SoCal |
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Re: Signal Mast Appearance definition file
Thanks all for the clarifications. I'll try to digest it all (with a Tums or two), but for now, since I'm just starting with signalling, I think I'm gong back to SSL and signal heads. Thanks again! Hal
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Bucklew's tutorial part 3
Hello all. I'm trying to figure out how to use signal heads and SSL and am finding Robert Bucklew's tutorial 3 () very helpful. But I have two questions:
1. does anyone know where I can find a panel file (xml) for the finished product of this tutorial? 2. I'm confused about the naming of the signal heads. On page 3 are instructions for adding 4 heads: 4 East Upper, 4 East Lower, 4 West main, and 4 West Siding. On subsequent pages these signals are all placed in the northWEST corner of the layout, if I'm not mistaken. I'm puzzled why the upper and lower are called East since they are placed in the west portion of the layout. What am I missing? Thanks, Hal. |
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Re: Signal Mast Appearance definition file
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 07:55 PM, billybob experimenter wrote:
Unfortunately, it appears that some recent web page re-organization work is incomplete. This means that the individual mast-specific pages are not rendering correctly. This leaves these pages partially "broken", with some missing text. I have filed an issue with the JMRI development team.Billybob, This issue should now be fixed. Thanks for raising it. Best regards, Matt H |
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Re: Signaling - strange message in apperance table
Petr,
This issue should now be resolved - can you verify? Thanks. Best regards, Matt H |
14 -> 27 and 28 -> 55 were Ugly Hacks built into some early command stations. Basically, the command station would rapidly switch back and forth between step N and N+1 to _effectively_ have step N+0.5. Putting a 0.5 in between all 14 steps gives you 27 total steps.
Once 128 existed, there was little need. Bob On Sep 20, 2019, at 8:17 PM, whmvd <vandoornw@...> wrote:-- Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@... |
55?? That's a new one on me! On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 18:14, <forfoum@...> wrote: As per the LE103 doc I found on Yumpu, These did not support 128.? |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý? My current theory revolves around 28/128 steps. ? For the problematic LE103 decoders: What happens if the EasyDCC throttle is changed to 128 steps ?? Can the EasyDCC throttle now control the LE103 ?? ??If the answer is ¡°no, it¡¯s now like JMRI throttles¡±, then it may be a clue. ? I¡¯ve known with other DCC systems problems with the JMRI throttles if they are set to anything other than 128 steps.?? It¡¯s never bothered me as I use 128 steps, and I don¡¯t know if the issue I¡¯ve seen is related to certain DCC systems, or more widespread.? ? ? A more complete answer would be found if there were a DCC packet analyser looking at the track signal, and comparing what is sent from a (working) EasyDCC throttle with the (problematic) JMRI throttle.??? But, unless there is one to hand, that means a short diversion into either tracking down such a device, or building one ¨C there are several online instructions on how to do this with an Ardunio and a handful of components, but it¡¯s a diversion into electronics. ? ? ? -????????? Nigel ? ? ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Don Weigt
Sent: 20 September 2019 16:15 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Possible roster problem #zimo #decoderpro ? wouter, |
Hi Don, Both things I mentioned (speed values 0 and momentum huge) are pretty long shots more in desperation than anything else. Somewhere along the line I have confused issues in my mind - I thought that for all problem cases the headlights worked but the motor wouldn't budge. If that's not so, then what I said becomes even more unlikely. Still worth a quick check, I suppose. One thing: don't trust the roster. The roster may be out of sync with the decoder, especially where momentum is concerned as that's often modified while running - and the roster simply won't know until you read back the value. At this stage, I would suggest reading CVs directly from the decoder at all stages - unless you've done a full read very recently. Wouter On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 16:14, Don Weigt <dweigt47@...> wrote: wouter, |
wouter,
No, I haven't checked the JMRI speed table for this decoder recently. With EasyDCC I do normally have a start voltage set, and mid and full speed, often evenly divided with full speed at 100%. On a few of my faster locos, full speed is reduced. Momentum is set for 4 or 5 accelerating and braking. It seems the JMRI roster info needs to be checked for that. In 28 speed step mode, wouldn't the JMRI be sending "speed step nn", and the decoder using its value for that speed step to control the motor? I don't think there is a way JMRI could tell these decoders the actual duty cycle the decoder should be setting. If the number of speed steps is mismatched, or the JMRI speeds are 0 for start, mid, and full, wouldn't F0 still control the lights? I can't even do that on LE103s with JMRI, but can with EasyDCC plug in throttles. The speed table values seem more likely to be the source of trouble with the Zimo decoder, where I could control F1, but not train speed. The recent discussions of what may be wrong are interesting and educational. Thanks for helping me, guys! I have always set these decoders up in EasyDCC as Class 2, which supports 28 speed steps. Even in the late 1990s, the decoders I used supported that. There was no reason to use the coarser 14 speed steps on any of my locos. Notice 1477 read back showed it is configured for 28/128 speed steps. I believe all my roster entries are set for 28 speed steps, so that should match, but I will confirm that. Don Weigt Connecticut |