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Re: CROSSOVERS AND OTHER FORMATIONS
The solution I use is to recognise the difference between Layout Editor (which is a logical description of the layout), and the Panel Editors (which are graphically free-form control panels). Within the Layout Editor, appearance is to an extent limited. Within the Panel Editors there is complete freedom to produce controls which have any appearance, and have controls in any location.
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The customised Panels will then control the layout, and their actions appear on the Layout Editor, and any automated logic dependent on the Layout Editor will be triggered. - Nigel -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Roberts Sent: 11 December 2018 13:09 To: [email protected] Subject: [jmriusers] CROSSOVERS AND OTHER FORMATIONS My query is to do with the icons we can use within The Layout editor to represent the various formations and the actual turnouts on the layout that make up the formation. I have several crossovers and two Double Crossovers to install. The icons are excellent and work a treat on the layout editor panels. However, these are made up of several turnouts and a Diamond Crossing on the layout and it occurred to me that should I not be using these icons but make them up exactly the same as on the actual layout? This would be a real shame since all formations including Slips and 3-ways are working perfectly on the panels and such a lot of work has gone into getting the icons to work correctly. I am certain that someone else raised this same point ( excuse the pun!) in a recent discussion about getting turnout formation icons on panels to control the relevant turnouts on the actual layout but I have not been able to locate the comment. Controlling the turnouts together is not a problem since both opposing pairs can have the same address and work together. Which is the correct way to go please? Sent from my iPhone - Dave |
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CROSSOVERS AND OTHER FORMATIONS
My query is to do with the icons we can use within The Layout editor to represent the various formations and the actual turnouts on the layout that make up the formation.
I have several crossovers and two Double Crossovers to install. The icons are excellent and work a treat on the layout editor panels. However, these are made up of several turnouts and a Diamond Crossing on the layout and it occurred to me that should I not be using these icons but make them up exactly the same as on the actual layout? This would be a real shame since all formations including Slips and 3-ways are working perfectly on the panels and such a lot of work has gone into getting the icons to work correctly. I am certain that someone else raised this same point ( excuse the pun!) in a recent discussion about getting turnout formation icons on panels to control the relevant turnouts on the actual layout but I have not been able to locate the comment. Controlling the turnouts together is not a problem since both opposing pairs can have the same address and work together. Which is the correct way to go please? Sent from my iPhone - Dave |
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Re: What NCE Decoder model is in Atlas N scale MP15DC?
Thanks all!! I am using the NMP15. On Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 12:17 AM Alain LM <AlanUS.forum@... wrote: Felice, |
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Re: MQTT Connection in JMRI
Seth,
I know what MQTT is and I know it isn¡¯t own communication protocol. You are correct and I agree that putting MQTT offers huge advantages for everything. Chris |
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Re: Accessing new icons in Layout Editor
By the time I got there JMRI test release 4.13.6 was available so I have tried this.
Now the add new icon with change icons enabled works as expected.? However edit existing icon still does not. I am now running Jenkins 4.15.1ish and same fault shows, ie add custom icon is ok BUT edit is not. I will submit this as a bug report |
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Re: 4.13.6, Digitrax DCS240 and indexed CVS
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMick I had this six months ago - ended up totally deleting Java and loading a fresh download of Java. Worked OK ever since then. Gerry On 11/12/2018 9:47 pm, Mick Moignard
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-- Gerry Hopkins MMR #177 FNMRA Great Northern Downunder NMRA Australasian Region Contest & AP Chairman Web Administrator |
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4.13.6, Digitrax DCS240 and indexed CVS
I just upgraded my JMRI to 4.13.6, and I can¡¯t now get it to write indexed CVS in a Soundtraxx ECO-100 UK decoder. ?Non indexed CVS are ok, but as soon as it hits an indexed one I get first a 308 error and then a JMRI programmer in use error (not the 302 system programmer in use error), and the console shows a stack trace. |
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Re: Packet Delays and Timeout - SPROG3 and JMRI 4.12
Hi on my system ... ? PRETTY_NAME="Raspbian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)" The only windows I have open are the PanelPro main window and the throttle window. The SPROG console is not opened. I see the messages when logged on to the Raspberry Pi. Do you have any debug enabled in default.lcf (probably not of you do not know what that means). - Do not belive so Is operation OK immediately after startup? ¨C yes
? With PanelPro main window open and throttle window open and power Unknown ¨C sits forever ok. Turn power to Off ¨C sits forever OK Turn power on -? 10-15 seconds and then warning messages start, and are issued every 8 seconds. ?overlay in /boot/config.txt ? dtoverlay=pi3-miniuart-bt-overlay |
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Re: Stopping due to error: No locomotive detected (301)
Thanks Dave. Part of the 4.15.x series is fine. The main thing is that the issue can be addressed.
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Heap Sent: 10 December 2018 19:28 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Stopping due to error: No locomotive detected (301) I also discovered an existing bug in IdentifyDecoder that kicked in when there was a retry. I've fixed that as well and written more tests. All takes time for a senior citizen... -- Dave in Australia On 11 Dec 2018, at 6:24 AM, Dave Heap <dgheap@...> wrote: |
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Re: Signaling Question Using SSL
Dave?
I¡¯m following this thread with interest after you convinced me to use LE as the medium to bring my CTC panel to life? Good progress here on activating turnouts with Tools Tables Turnouts and Edit Turnout, even though I¡¯ve had to redo the layout several times due to getting the File Save protocol mixed up and I think opening the files twice. This has given me good practice creating active Turnouts. The reason for this mail is : ¡° Direction of traffic through a CTC plant ¡° The concept of A block activated before B block ¡°determines the direction of travel ¡° ?Is not CTC normal practice I.e opposing signals are paired e.g. 20R faces 20L as shown on CTC panel. ?Also there is only one block between the signals thus requiring a vacant block / section for the train to arrive into. So ?direction of traffic is selected by position of panel lever L/R. ? My understanding ? Would be this is dealt with by Logix in response to the lever position? ?Through SML. Rather than SSL in your demo? Thanks for the Demo and all your other messages on this topic? John Pearson? |
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Re: What NCE Decoder model is in Atlas N scale MP15DC?
Felice,
All these NCE decoder share the same software, therefore the same CV set. The only difference between them is the form factor, but this cannot be known by JMRI. So you can use any that is listed by JMRI, but using the NMP15 will obviously list the appropriate decoder model in your roster. -- Alain LM |
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Test version 4.13.6 of JMRI/DecoderPro is available for download
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Test version 4.13.6 of JMRI/DecoderPro is available for download.
This is the next in a series of test releases that will culminate in a production release, hopefully in December 2018. We're getting close to the end of the development series, so we'd appreciate feedback on whether or not this release works for your layout. If you are currently using JMRI 4.9.6 or earlier, we strongly recommend that you first update to JMRI 4.12 and make sure that's running OK before updating to this test release. There have been a number of changes in serial port support, panel file format and configuration options since those earlier releases, and moving to the stable JMRI 4.12 release is a good way to work through any possible problems. <> If you use JMRI on Linux or Mac and are updating from JMRI 4.7.3 or earlier, there¡¯s a necessary migration step. (Not needed on Windows) Please see the JMRI 4.12 release note for details: <> For more information on the issues, new features and bug fixes in 4.13.6 please see the release note: <> Note that JMRI is made available under the GNU General Public License. For more information, please see our copyright and licensing page. <> The download links, along with lots of other information which we hope you'll read, can be found on the release note page: <> Bob -- Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@... |
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Re: MQTT Connection in JMRI
When I was very young, in the UK, "Dead Rail" was the toy train technology of the day. AKA as "Clockwork".? Fortunately, as I got older, and the WW II aftermath austerity receded, "Electric Trains" using convenient track power, rapidly replaced them.
The dead rail disadvantages then, as now, were that the locos need "rewinding" after short periods of use; their mechanisms were inconveniently bulked up by the on board energy source (a coil spring); trains tended to run on dangerously out of control if derailed ; and finally, remote movement control, by throttle and/or signal interlocking, required a whole set of complex additional technology. There is a cliche' that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. :) As to DCC, it was originally conceived as an end to end, solely manual, remote control system of model trains from a lower cost, non-prototypical place of "not in the cab".? That's not merely a "transport protocol". This meant that the obviously more useful and realistic control alternative of a real-time video stream from the cab was never provided for. Nor the local (on train) sensors that would have let a central or "on board" intelligence provide autonomous control of other trains as interactive moving operations components for which manual operators were either not available, not needed or not wanted. My own interest is in a system that replaces DCC and provides at least the features in the latter part of the previous paragraph. Merely providing yet more remote access methods to the existing major shortcomings of the DCC requirements specifications, do not seem IMO to be moving in a direction likely of achieving the aforementioned goals. Andy On 12/10/2018 3:15 PM, Chris Rood wrote: Jan, --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. |
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Re: What NCE Decoder model is in Atlas N scale MP15DC?
DecoderPro is showing that CV7 is 38 and CV8 is 11.? On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 1:41 PM Dave Heap <dgheap@...> wrote: If DecoderPro can't uniquely identify the decoder, there are several possibilities: |
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Re: MQTT Connection in JMRI
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýChris:I think you assumed a critical step: MQTT is a service that you typically access via a TCP/IP mechanism, MQTT is not itself a transport mechanism like CMRI, LCC, Loconet etc.? OTOH if you have a WiFi decoder that can get to an MQTT server (Mosquitto for example) then it could control a locomotive. I think MQTT could be a powerful mechanism for adding all kinds of IoT devices to JMRI. It could also be a great method for coordinating traditional railroad items like signals, switch motors, detectors and the like.? Really our railroads fit the IoT metaphor pretty well.? JMRI itself is the great de-babelizer of model railroading and has the abstraction layers to deal with the various transport mechanisms. On 12/10/2018 3:15 PM, Chris Rood
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Re: MQTT Connection in JMRI
Jan,?
That is not my argument. I know that MQTT will never replace DCC. I was just proving that it can be used to transfer data to a decoder via wireless communication rather than the rail. This is a huge advantage for people who want to "deadrail" (battery power) locomotives. I agree that there are too many proprietary systems out there and things in model railroad need to be "open source" like JMRI. I don't expect manufacturer's to open source hardware, but at least their communication structure, so people can push data to it. You are correct with the throttles.? |
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Re: MQTT Connection in JMRI
Chris: Replacing DCC with MQTT seems like a solution looking for a problem to solve. An enormous advantage of DCC is that is standardized and supported by a large range of suppliers of many types of devices. Where it falls down is on the "throttle" side which is a muddle of proprietary systems and a proliferation of interfaces to allow things to talk to each other. That's where MQTT could make a useful improvement by facilitating exchange of data between proprietary "throttle" systems.
Jan |
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Re: Bachmann 308 errors
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWas having the same problem even with a booster installed.? The advice I got from this group was to eliminate the booster.? It worked like a charm.? I was trying to program a new Bachmann 2-8-0 and everything worked fine.? The only issue was figuring out what decoder was in the loco.? I took a guess and it works pretty dog gone great! ? Doug T. ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mick Moignard <mick@...>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 11:57:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Bachmann 308 errors ?
The length of wire between the command station and the program track is entirely immaterial when working out whether a program track booster is needed. ?If the decoder does readback, but cannot trigger the command station's read detection,
a booster is required, or you'll have to use a different DCC system, or a standalone programmer such as a SPROG or Digitrax PR4.
Mick ______________________________________________________________________ Mick Moignard Specialising in DCC Sound p: +44 7774 652504 e: mick@... skype: mickmoignard IBM Notes and Domino: still has what it takes as an App Dev and Collaboration platform. |
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Re: Accessing new icons in Layout Editor
Neither adding or editing work.
I will try again tomorrow with 4.13.7ish |
Bob Jacobsen
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