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Locked Re: Layout editor turnout control issue

 

Just to add, my system is:

Raspberry Pi with Raspbian Stretch 9
Java 1.8.0_65
Panel Pro 4.12+Rb6a9bb1
DCC++ though Arduino Mega 2650 with Pololu motor shield


Locked Re: Layout editor turnout control issue

 

Thanks Dave, I have tried that and still not working I am afraid. Clicking only closes the turnout, never throws it. I have tried to screenshot my problem and set up. Basically, when I click on a point circle the first time the turnout table state registers but any further clicking on the same turnout doesn't toggle the state, just leaves it closed. The physical turnout gets the operate instruction (the solenoid fires but obviously it doesn't move because it is already closed). Right clicking has no response at all. It seems strange that the both legs are always drawn. Picture of set up in the link.

/g/jmriusers/album?id=66717


Locked Re: Decoder Pro Manual ?

 

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That will never happen while manufacturers are bringing out new devices/models and users are expecting JMRI to do more things and better.

We are all volunteers and give of our time freely, with the only cost being our other life priorities/commitments.

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On 14 Aug 2018, at 10:08 AM, John <jonie41@...> wrote:

Once JMRI has slowed down in it's development and become more sedate in
development a manual con be under taken.


Locked Re: EPrompt change

 

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You haven't explained what NCE system you have. Until we know that, we cannot possibly help you:
1) Is it an NCE Power Pro (has a metal case labelled something like PH-PRO) and the supplied throttle is labelled Pro Cab? You connect using a USB-Serial cable.
2) Is it an NCE Power Cab (the supplied throttle is labelled Power Cab)? You connect using an NCE USB board.
3) Is it an NCE Smart Booster SB3/SB3a/SB5) (would be labelled as such)?


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The New England Convention 2018

On 14 Aug 2018, at 10:15 AM, Wayne Yount <s.w.yount@...> wrote:

Oops. I meant Eprom. I have a NCE system with a Eprom of 7. I sent it in for repair and got a loaner from a friend. The Eprom in it is a 4. JMRI keeps asking me to change? it from a 7 to a 4. How do you change the software in JMRI to show a 4.


Locked JMRI 4.12 not reading decoder type

 

I am restoring my roster after losing half of it to my experiment with profiles. Version 4.12 is not reading the decoder types - it gets stuck reading CV 159. These are all decoders that it has read before - what gives?

David Lay
Kingston, Ontario


Locked Re: Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro issues

 

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Ron,
Your problem is not the same as Bob's.

- In Ron's case, his macOS is not loading a driver for his adaptor cable and hence there is no port for JMRI to connect to. I have given him instructions in how to check for a device and see when it is loading a driver and what the port name is.

- In Bob's case, he is connected to a COM port but it is returning incorrect information to JMRI. This has different causes. Either:
- Bob has chosen an incorrect COM port. He can check this by opening Windows Device Manager and watching what (if any) COM port appears/disappears as the adaptor is connected/disconnected. If no change, he also has a driver problem.
- Bob is connected to the connect COM port and the Power Pro is returning unexpected information. This is either due to an EPROM version mismatch, one or more incorrect setting(s) in the Power Pro or a dodgy connection to the Power Pro. The instructions I have given him cover these possibilities.

Thanks for supplying JMRI System Console output with your queries. Please always do so. This lets us narrow down the problem quickly.

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Dave in Australia

The New England Convention 2018

On 14 Aug 2018, at 10:00 AM, Bob via Groups.Io <GMRC405@...> wrote:

Sounds like the same problem that I’m having. Posted ?earlier today.

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On 14 Aug 2018, at 10:37 AM, Ron Burkhard <ronburk453@...> wrote:

Glad to see I am not alone in this, I have someone to commiserate with. Lower case lol.
Ron


Locked Re: Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro issues

 

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Bob,
Your problem is not the same as Ron's.

- In Ron's case, his macOS is not loading a driver for his adaptor cable and hence there is no port for JMRI to connect to. I have given him instructions in how to check for a device and see when it is loading a driver and what the port name is.

- In Bob's case, he is connected to a COM port but it is returning incorrect information to JMRI. This has different causes. Either:
- Bob has chosen an incorrect COM port. He can check this by opening Windows Device Manager and watching what (if any) COM port appears/disappears as the adaptor is connected/disconnected. If no change, he also has a driver problem.
- Bob is connected to the connect COM port and the Power Pro is returning unexpected information. This is either due to an EPROM version mismatch, one or more incorrect setting(s) in the Power Pro or a dodgy connection to the Power Pro. The instructions I have given him cover these possibilities.

Thanks for supplying JMRI System Console output with your queries. Please always do so. This lets us narrow down the problem quickly.

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Dave in Australia

The New England Convention 2018

On 14 Aug 2018, at 10:00 AM, Bob via Groups.Io <GMRC405@...> wrote:

Sounds like the same problem that I’m having. Posted ?earlier today.

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Jon Miller
 

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On 8/13/2018 5:46 PM, Barry Draper wrote:
but that is with my own amplified driver.
??? It's probably easier to look at the eBay item, eBay item number: 332427277346.? These are mounted detectors using an adjustable op amp.? I think I have fixed the problem.? I found some black paint and redid the detectors and now they work with the test cars.? Will need to install all the detectors (9 of them), wire up the Opto-isolators (3 needed), and connect to the Logic Rail modules (of which I have 2).? After that the finial test!:-D
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For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
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Locked Re: I/R detectors

 

Jon,

What driver circuit are you using? That makes a huge difference, but regardless of the driver not all IR detector pairs are created equal. The specs on the TCRT5000 show 15mm (aprox. .5 inch) but that is tested with a mirrored surface. I have had good luck with a pairing of LiteOn LTR-4206E LED and LiteOn LTE-4206 phototransistor. These are discrete T-1 package, and require some sort of light shield between them on installation. Also, the LTE-4206 phototransistor has backward polarity, the positive is the short lead/ flat edge. I find I have no problem detecting up to an inch with black bottom cars (HO scale), but that is with my own amplified driver.

Barry Draper
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 1:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [jmriusers] I/R detectors

This may be a little off topic for this group but I need some engineering help. I'm using some TCRT5000 Infrared detectors (eBay). When testing a light brown colored underframe the detector will trip at about 1". However when the underframe is black that reduces to about a 1/4". [there is more to this story but later if required]

My question, if I increase the current to the IR LED (by decreasing the resistor) can I get more range? It appears the resistor now is around 30mA but the device specs say it could take 60mA. Maybe take to 45mA!:-\

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For me time stopped in 1941
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SPROG User
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Member SFRH&MS


Locked Re: Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro issues

Ron Burkhard
 

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Glad to see I am not alone in this, I have someone to commiserate with. Lower case lol.
Ron

On Aug 13, 2018, at 19:00, Bob via Groups.Io <GMRC405@...> wrote:

Sounds like the same problem that I’m having. Posted ?earlier today.

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Sent from for Windows 10

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From: Ron Burkhard
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 3:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [jmriusers] Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro issues

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Gents,

??? The subject issue: NCE Power Pro, serial port RS232 connected to PC windows 10 works normally.? Older JMRI version not updated recently.? I have plugged the RS-232 to USB into PC with no positive results, and have not attempted to trouble shoot at this time.

The Problem: I am attempting to use said Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro 2.7 Core i7.? JmRI Ver 4.12+Rb6u9bb1, java 1.8.0_171(en_US).

Per Dave Heap for the NCE users group emails, software/updates, Silabs usbdriver disk.dmg, Trendnet TU-S9 software, Mac.os.vcp_driver.zip,? have been downloaded & installed.? The cable is from the desktop to a Trendnet TU-S9 RS232 to USB.

I suspect the Trendnet is the culprit in the laptop not communicating to the Power Pro.? I have been through all the preferences:

NCE

System Mfr - NCE

System connection - Serial

Serial Port choice - Choices are None/cu.Bluetooth-incoming.port/TTy.Bluetooth-incomming-port (none work)

Connection prefix - N

Connection Name - NCE

Baud rate - 9600

Eprom - 2006 or later

Any ideas out there?

Thanks

Ron B

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Locked Re: EPrompt change

 

The easiest if not the quickest way to decipher this probably is to purchase a replacement eprom chip from NCE.

For better information from the NCE experts on this list, one reasonable method is to open a new "Topic" on this group with a title like "NCE eprom 7 vs. 4 info needed" or some more literate way to catch the attention of the experts.

Cliff in Baja SoCal


Locked Re: NCE EProm version change (was EPrompt change #'s)

 

Wayne,

Ah - all is clear to me now. Unfortunately, I don't know the "trick", as I'm not an NCE user.

Hopefully Ken Cameron or another NCE-knowledgable person will chime in.

Regards,
Billybob


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Wayne Yount
 

Oops. I meant Eprom. I have a NCE system with a Eprom of 7. I sent it in for repair and got a loaner from a friend. The Eprom in it is a 4. JMRI keeps asking me to change? it from a 7 to a 4. How do you change the software in JMRI to show a 4.


Locked Re: Slot Monitor expansion to 400 slots

 

I reached out to AJ at NTS to see if/when Digitrax will be open to working with the JMRI team to bring the software up to speed to talk to the DCS240 for the expanded slots and all. He says that he has reached out to the appropriate person of the JMRI group but the individual has not gotten back in touch with him. It will be interesting to see if the LocoNet Personal Edition gets updated....

Tom Johnson


Locked Re: EPrompt change

Wayne Yount
 

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 09:01 AM, billybob experimenter wrote:
Wayne,

What's an EPrompt? I've never heard of one, either inside JMRI or outside of it, either.

I suspect that you will need to give us some context on your problem. And I wonder if your problem may be unrelated to JMRI...

Regards,
Billybob

?On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 09:01 AM, billybob experimenter wrote:
Wayne,

What's an EPrompt? I've never heard of one, either inside JMRI or outside of it, either.

I suspect that you will need to give us some context on your problem. And I wonder if your problem may be unrelated to JMRI...

Regards,
Billybob


Locked Re: Decoder Pro Manual ?

 

A manual would be nice, but who has the time to keep up with all the
improvements/changes?
Once JMRI has slowed down in it's development and become more sedate in
development a manual con be under taken.
The JMRI group is the default manual for now...got a question or problem? Post
it here.

John

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From: Peter Ulvestad <ulvestad@...>
Date: August 13, 2018 at 6:13 PM


George,

It doesn't matter if anyone agrees. If there is no one willing to put in the
work it won't happen.

I personally think the effort would be better spent elsewhere.

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Locked Re: Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro issues

 

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Sounds like the same problem that I’m having. Posted ?earlier today.

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Sent from for Windows 10

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From: Ron Burkhard
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 3:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [jmriusers] Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro issues

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Gents,

??? The subject issue: NCE Power Pro, serial port RS232 connected to PC windows 10 works normally.? Older JMRI version not updated recently.? I have plugged the RS-232 to USB into PC with no positive results, and have not attempted to trouble shoot at this time.

The Problem: I am attempting to use said Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro 2.7 Core i7.? JmRI Ver 4.12+Rb6u9bb1, java 1.8.0_171(en_US).

Per Dave Heap for the NCE users group emails, software/updates, Silabs usbdriver disk.dmg, Trendnet TU-S9 software, Mac.os.vcp_driver.zip,? have been downloaded & installed.? The cable is from the desktop to a Trendnet TU-S9 RS232 to USB.

I suspect the Trendnet is the culprit in the laptop not communicating to the Power Pro.? I have been through all the preferences:

NCE

System Mfr - NCE

System connection - Serial

Serial Port choice - Choices are None/cu.Bluetooth-incoming.port/TTy.Bluetooth-incomming-port (none work)

Connection prefix - N

Connection Name - NCE

Baud rate - 9600

Eprom - 2006 or later

Any ideas out there?

Thanks

Ron B

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Locked Re: Entering New Loco's in DEcoder Pro

 

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Dave is correct - you do NOT need the 2.5 Sprog for programming - BUT - When doing installs on O Scale locos and then test running them the power from the Sprog 3 is a big help.

Last week I re-motored an O scale Challenger using a WOW 5 amp decoder. The extra "oomph" is a big help. Currently on the bench a brass O scale SD70ac with same size decoder.

Gerry


On 14/08/2018 9:31 AM, Dave Heap wrote:
You don't need the 2.5A SPROG 3 to program decoders.

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Dave in Australia

The New England Convention 2018

On 14 Aug 2018, at 6:32 AM, Mike Heintzman <mikeheintzman@...> wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions all. I think from reading the various replies I’ll have to bite the bullet ( or whatever the train analogy is) and buy the Sprog 3 with the 2.5 amp output. I inherited the one I have so I don’t know how old it is. With sound decoders getting more and more complex, and using more power, pretty soon we’re going to need small reactors to power stuff.

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Locked Re: Entering New Loco's in DEcoder Pro

 

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Don't use the Rolling Thunder definition for a loco decoder. It's for the external "Rolling Thunder" box, which installs under your layout.

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Dave in Australia

The New England Convention 2018

On 14 Aug 2018, at 2:26 AM, Mike Heintzman <mikeheintzman@...> wrote:

I tried to manually tell it that it was a BLI Paragon 3 Rolling Thunder, but got the same error


Locked Re: Entering New Loco's in DEcoder Pro

 

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You don't need the 2.5A SPROG 3 to program decoders.

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Dave in Australia

The New England Convention 2018

On 14 Aug 2018, at 6:32 AM, Mike Heintzman <mikeheintzman@...> wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions all. I think from reading the various replies I’ll have to bite the bullet ( or whatever the train analogy is) and buy the Sprog 3 with the 2.5 amp output. I inherited the one I have so I don’t know how old it is. With sound decoders getting more and more complex, and using more power, pretty soon we’re going to need small reactors to power stuff.