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Re: Trouble with JMRI throttle
As Jon says, it seems like something changed the status of all the entries.
Since I don't know of any command that would do that, I have to ask: WHEN WAS THE COMMAND STATION BATTERY LAST CHANGED?? Sorry to use all caps, but when I see something that seems like a change that makes no sense, I suspect the hardware. A failing battery could account for anything being weird in the slots or settings. Given the history of the JMRI throttle, I've known we put hooks for a few other forms, but I've not found any code to do stuff with the Motorola form other than identify the header if seen. Yes some of the command station have something to do with it. But I can't find anything that JMRI could generate to do the status edit. Maybe I missed it, but so far, I can't see how JMRI would have any way to do what happened. At least on LocoNet, I don't see code to do things with the format, only read it. Ecos, Marklin, and Zimo have more code so might, but nothing obvious about being able to do anything with it changing everything. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
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Surprise!!
Folks,
I recently dove into my JMRI installation and all went well......for a while. I managed to list about thirty of my locos on the roster but when I opened the software yesterday and turned on my NCE DCC system the software will not communicate with the DCC system. It just displays a notification (in red) that NCE is offline and nothing I have tried will reestablish communications between the two. Has any one in this group ever experienced this situation and what did you do to resolve it? By the way the DCC system works fine in all other respects. Thanks in advance. Bill Aulicino Apex NC |
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Re: Elementary question about system requirements
Mike,
From what I can gather. The laptop is a Dell XPS M1710. Model number on the back is PP05XB. It has win7 ultimate. 200 Ghz processor 4 GB memory. 320 GB hard drive GForce 7900 sound. I can't get it to load my email keeps giving me stopped responding messages and script errors. Thanks for advice in advance Perry On Jun 21, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Michael Piazza mpiazza2007@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Trouble with JMRI throttle
Jim S.,
There are two obvious things that can control a slot's "default" "operating mode" - that is, whether the slot defaults to "trinary" or "128 speed step" or "28 speed step" or "14 speed step" or "motorola" or one of the other possibilities... First, you might want to take a look at DCS100 "OpSw"es 21, 22, and 23. These are supposed to provide the "global system default type" when acquiring a locomotive which is not already in the DCS100 slot table (and when the throttle does not override the command station). Depending on which firmware version of DCS100 you have, and which version of the DCS100 manual you have, you can find conflicting information on these, and different lists of what values are supported. I've always used a "poke-and-hope" approach - try a set of OpSw 21/22/23, power-down then power-up, then acquire a loco that is not already in a slot, and see what mode it comes up in. You need to use a DT*00x or DT402x throttle with a display to view the "status". For some throttle models, it is necessary to "status edit" the slot to view the "status" to find out what "status" or mode that the slot is using for the loco. Second, if you use DT100x, DT300x, DT400x, DT402x, or DT500x throttles, each of these can provide a "default slot operating mode" which may override the DCS100 defaults. With the DT100x throttles, the throttle's "Secondary Option" code "oS" influences the default slot operating mode value. With the DT300x and DT400x throttles, throttle "OpSw2" influences the default slot operating mode value. With the DT402x throttles and the DT500x throttles, when the "NewTypes" option is "on", then the "Nu Type=" value takes precedence over the command station's default slot operating mode; you want to make sure the "Nu Type=" value is reasonable (i.e. not "tr1"). Alternately, you may set "NewTypes" to "off" and rely on the command station's default value. Regards, Billybob |
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Re: Trouble with JMRI throttle
Jon Miller
/On 6/22/2017 6:04 PM, jhswann@... [jmriusers] wrote://
/ /I can't find a location where to make 128 the default on the DCS100There is a command station setting to make 128 default for NEW decoders. But if somehow your current decoders were changed to a different status then you either need to change them (status edit each and every one) or delete and re-enter. It seems as if a global command was sent to "status edit" all the decoders on your layout to Motorola trinary. -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, SPROG, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS |
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Re: Trouble with JMRI throttle
Hi Fellows.
Thanks to all who tried to assist with this issue. I have a solution: Somehow the command station started to use something called stat tri for its communications with all my mobile decoders. When I changed all the engines (each individually!) back to 128 (digitrax preferred) the world returned to normal. This must be done from the wireless throttle near as I can tell. I can't find a location where to make 128 the default on the DCS100 but i'll keep looking. As of now the layout is operational. 2 days! WHEW! Thanks again. Jim Swann |
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Re: help required to configure JMRI for DIY controller interface
Blair,
Thank you for your input and advice. I had studied the message formatting earlier, however it was not obvious to me at first, was that the C/MRI protocol does not have any message formats which deal with only one output, or only one input. It only has formats which deal with "all inputs on the node" or "all outputs on the node" as clarified by Billybob in a previous post. Regards Geoff |
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Re: JMRI with Java 9?
Randall,
Thank you for the information. Be assured that I am pulling for your early success. In the meantime, I can get by using VNC Viewer remotely since it has a scalable window. Brian From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...] Sent: June 22, 2017 17:08 To: jmriusers@... Subject: Re: [jmriusers] JMRI with Java 9? JMRI does not run with Java 9 on any OS. We hope to have that resolved soon. Randall On Jun 22, 2017, at 16:57, 'Brian Gilhuly' brianlgilhuly@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: WiThrottle issues
Steve,
Thanks for the suggestion. Yes there is an exclamation point on my WiFi icon, on both my phone and tablet. On my Motorola Droid phone under WiFi Advanced, there is an option named "Avoid bad WiFi connections". Unfortunately, it was already off.This phone is running Android version 7.0 My knockoff tablet also has an option on the WiFi Advanced menu, this one is called "Avoid poor connections". It too was turned off. This tablet is running Android version 4.4.2 Bob |
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Re: Trouble with JMRI throttle
Jim,
The "key" is your "STAT TRI" message. The address (1201) has been "Status Edited" (most likely inadvertently) so your command station is sending "Motorola Trinary" format messages to address 1201. Your DCC decoder does respond to these. Check your manual for "Status Edit" on how to "Status Edit" the address back to 128 speed step operation. Alternative -- use the JMRI Slot Monitor to find address 1201 and clear that slot. Then when you select address 1201 it will be a "new" address when you select it. HTH Ross Kudlick From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:50 PM To: jmriusers@... Subject: [jmriusers] Re: Trouble with JMRI throttle Hi Walt. Here is an update in the problem. It is an email I sent to Marc Fournier in Quebec. Hi Marc. Thanks for the reply. I have just trashed another day downstairs trying to sort this out. Here is more data: 1. I use a digitrax command station DCS 150. I have a digitrax wireless duplex throttle which I rarely use.....I usually run from the computer with JMRI; however, I was using the wireless throttle on 1 engine (#1201) the night prior to my problems as I was aligning a turntable track at the far side of my layout. I tried Breezleys trick from the forum , and it was no help. I do not use consists as yet. 2. Today I beamed up my program and confirmed that loconet system is working. I can change all my switches and my script to "set all switches" runs perfectly 3. I picked one engine (#1201) (the one I was using on my turntable test) and it was not working on either the wireless or the computer throttle. I was fiddling with the loco select knob on the wireless throttle and above the 1201 number I got the message STAT TRI on the screen. I also noted that I could move between the numbers "stat tri",14,28/128 - but I can't remember how i was able to do that! . I hit 128 and the engine jumped to life and roared around the track. I was quite surprised. I have no idea what I did. I had to put the engine on the programming track and with much fussing about I now have 1 engine running more or less the way it was with either the throttle or the computer. All my other engines respond to some commands from the computer throttle ( horns squeals etc.) but no engines work (i.e. run). The wireless doesn't work them either. 4. I notice the buttons on the computer throttle don't seem to dim/un-dim properly when they are clicked. Sometimes they stay grey, sometimes the are clear. Sometime they don't clear until another button is pushed. I am quite baffled by this mess. Hope you have some ideas what to do next... Cheers, Jim |
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Re: JMRI with Java 9?
Randall Wood
JMRI does not run with Java 9 on any OS. We hope to have that resolved soon.
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Randall On Jun 22, 2017, at 16:57, 'Brian Gilhuly' brianlgilhuly@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: |
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Re: Trouble with JMRI throttle
Jon Miller
/On 6/22/2017 1:49 PM, jhswann@... [jmriusers] wrote://
/ /I got the message STAT TRI on the screen/You probably already know this and I have not followed this at all but Is this not Motorola trinary? -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, SPROG, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS |
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JMRI with Java 9?
Is there a way to make JMRI work with Java 9 on Windows? Running on Java 8
on my high-res display results in panels too miniscule to use. Setting the font size to 30 makes the text in most windows semi-readable, with the layout scrambled. But when I try with java 9, which does work well on my display, the JMRI loader reports a "Java not found" error. Apparently this is a known problem, but the last thread on the subject I could find ended with someone asking in msg. #135627, "Has the problem with JMRI failing to load under Java 9 been resolved now? (It was due to Java 9 defining different registry keys so the ones that JMRI checks to see if Java is present were not found)". That was back on Feb. 7, and he never got an answer. What is the current status? If it is just a matter of registry keys, there should be a simple manual work-around. Thanks, Brian Gilhuly |
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Re: Car Location Printout
Dan,
Okay. ? I am departing on vacation as I write this. ?So after the 4th. Thanks.? Norman Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 8:05 AM, daboudreau@... [jmriusers]<jmriusers@...> wrote: Norman, Instead of sending the file to the printer, try the "Microsoft XPS Document Writer" and send the output to me to review. ?You might have a printer that doesn't quite work right with JMRI. Dan |
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Re: Trouble with JMRI throttle
Hi Walt.
Here is an update in the problem. It is an email I sent to Marc Fournier in Quebec. Hi Marc. Thanks for the reply. I have just trashed another day downstairs trying to sort this out. Here is more data: 1. I use a digitrax command station DCS 150. I have a digitrax wireless duplex throttle which I rarely use.....I usually run from the computer with JMRI; however, I was using the wireless throttle on 1 engine (#1201) the night prior to my problems as I was aligning a turntable track at the far side of my layout. I tried Breezleys trick from the forum , and it was no help. I do not use consists as yet. 2. Today I beamed up my program and confirmed that loconet system is working. I can change all my switches and my script to "set all switches" runs perfectly 3. I picked one engine (#1201) (the one I was using on my turntable test) and it was not working on either the wireless or the computer throttle. I was fiddling with the loco select knob on the wireless throttle and above the 1201 number I got the message STAT TRI on the screen. I also noted that I could move between the numbers "stat tri",14,28/128 - but I can't remember how i was able to do that! . I hit 128 and the engine jumped to life and roared around the track. I was quite surprised. I have no idea what I did. I had to put the engine on the programming track and with much fussing about I now have 1 engine running more or less the way it was with either the throttle or the computer. All my other engines respond to some commands from the computer throttle ( horns squeals etc.) but no engines work (i.e. run). The wireless doesn't work them either. 4. I notice the buttons on the computer throttle don't seem to dim/un-dim properly when they are clicked. Sometimes they stay grey, sometimes the are clear. Sometime they don't clear until another button is pushed. I am quite baffled by this mess. Hope you have some ideas what to do next... Cheers, Jim |
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Re: Z21 Users Please test
Thanks. It will take me a little while to dissect that. I see
several things going on, but I need to figure out where they are coming from. I can say that only the "Unsupported Command Sent to Command Station" is caused by JMRI sending something to the Z21, and my guess is that it is the JMRI XPressNet throttle implementation looking for some piece of function status the Z21 must not support. This is something I can stop, but it isn't something that will cause a loss of control (we see this message because the command station responded to a request we made). Paul On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 3:12 PM, tventonukgateway@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: Thanks Paul, copy of system console follows. |
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Re: Problem programming higher CVs
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a) CVs>256* are affected. b) The problem only affects Program Track write packets, not reads, or Program on Main. * The technical reason is that there is no CV0 (only CVs 1-1024), so CV1 actually has an address of 0 in the NMRA programming packet, CV256 actually has an address of 255 and CV1024 actually has an address of 1023. -- Dave in Australia On 23 Jun 2017, at 12:36 AM, thomas_applink@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: |
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Re: Problem programming higher CVs
There is an option 4 without any extra hardware requirements:
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4. Read the decoder in Program Track mode, save the Roster Entry and use that to make changes in Program on Main mode. Clarification: - The NCE Power Pro reads CVs>256 correctly in Program Track mode. - The NCE Power Pro cannot write CVs>256 correctly in Program Track mode.* - The NCE Power Pro writes CVs>256 correctly in Program on Main mode. * When writing in Program Track mode, all CV addresses are truncated to 8 bit equivalents (1-256). So a write to CV275 instead goes to CV19. So current JMRI versions will not try to write CVs>256 in Program Track mode. If you try with the Pro Cab in Program Track mode, you will corrupt CVs. -- Dave in Australia On 23 Jun 2017, at 12:36 AM, thomas_applink@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: |
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