Walthers provides absolutely nothing re 920-42107
Soundtraxx provides absolutely nothing re 920-42107? or the Walthers GP7.? There is no? CV listing sheet (unless YOU have one )

Without a CV listing from Soundtraxx, authors have stopped trying to fish out the details and just wait for Soundtraxx to provide them.

I would suggest you use the definition for the GP35? as it dates from 2018 as does the GP7 from what I discovered.?

The horn names will not match? until Soundtraxx provides the information.?

Marc

Just to make sure I understand, you just have to restart DecoderPro and everything is recovered? You don’t have to manually remake the roster index?

Do you use any images in your roster? If so, are they preserved or lost?

Could you try to recreate it after adding this line to your default.lcf file in the JMRI program directory:

log4j.category.jmri.jmrit.roster=DEBUG

(Make a copy of the file so you can put it back; this line is similar to ones at the bottom of the file, but note it doesn’t start with a #) That puts a bunch of step-by-step debug info into the console which might help us see what’s happening.

Thanks

Bob

On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:39 PM, forfoum@... wrote:

Thru several updates, I have been dealing with a case of "Vanishing Roster " situation and I would like to know if anyone else is seeing this.

I use multiple Profiles and a shared ROSTER. I do not do any Panels or Operation. My systems is strictly DecoderPro.
Win10 on one system and Win XP on other.

On occasion, the DecoderPro start up is greeted with the "Getting Started" and my existing ROSTER is not presented. To fix this, all I do is restart DecoderPro without any changes and the ROSTER table returns. All roster table column width setup has now been lost for the umphteen time but all data is present.

What I have noticed is this might happen after adding a NEW Profile (sometimes done for testing) and the next Profile of mine I select may come up without the Roster Table.

I see this on Win10 and Windows XP. The XP Systems is currently on 4.19.3 Jenkins and exibits the symptom even after changing the User Files Location as a suggested made by some. Win10 system is running 4.18, same symptom.

I view the session and message logs and see nothing reported.

I view the User-Interface.xml and User-Interface.xml.2.bak and notice

User-Interface.xml shows this :

<columns>
<column hidden="true" name="Last Operated" order="11" width="165"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Owner" order="8" width="52"/>
<column hidden="true" name="Operating Duration" order="12" width="112"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Road Number" order="5" width="85"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Date Modified" order="9" width="86"/>
<column hidden="false" name="DCC Address" order="1" width="83"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Manufacturer" order="6" width="85"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Model" order="7" width="48"/>
<column hidden="false" name="ID" order="0" width="31"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Icon" order="2" width="41"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Decoder Model" order="3" width="91"/>
<column hidden="true" name="Protocol" order="10" width="59"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Road Name" order="4" width="75"/>
</columns>

User_Interface.xml.2.bak shows this (as well as User-Interface.xml.3.bak):

<columns>
<column hidden="true" name="Last Operated" order="11" width="165"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Owner" order="8" width="88"/>
<column hidden="true" name="Operating Duration" order="12" width="112"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Road Number" order="5" width="75"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Date Modified" order="9" width="143"/>
<column hidden="false" name="DCC Address" order="1" width="68"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Manufacturer" order="6" width="168"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Model" order="7" width="211"/>
<column hidden="false" name="ID" order="0" width="31"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Icon" order="2" width="56"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Decoder Model" order="3" width="188"/>
<column hidden="true" name="Protocol" order="10" width="59"/>
<column hidden="false" name="Road Name" order="4" width="106"/>
</columns>

So for some reason out of the blue the Column widths have been changed AFTER the ROSTER table had gone missing and then recovered.

I do not see what I might have wrong in my JMRI install that might be causing this nuisance.

Marc

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Dennis, I totally agree and understand the problem. I don’t believe that it is a J Ops issue. On the 2 RRs that I work we are TT&TO, there is a timetable showing the priority trains, towns, sidings, and lengths. ?But that is not enuf. ?I also create a lineup which shows the extra trains and all that are planned for the session. One of our other guys creates a string chart showing what happens if all goes well.

A DS on a new pike running blind is not fun. I had a similar experience on a club RR and felt at sea. The host had built a marvelous CTC system using J, but unless the guest DS knew the trains and the territory, it was just clicking on signals.

Hosts should realize?that it isn’t just the technology but the RR ecosystem that has to be understood to effectively dispatch.

Jon

Funny when people tell you they installed JMRI 4.18? ... The logs never get it wrong ?? : -) ?

Marc?

Thru? several? updates, I have been dealing with a case of? "Vanishing Roster " situation? and I would like to know if anyone else is seeing this.

I use multiple Profiles and? a shared ROSTER.? I do not do any Panels or Operation.? My systems is strictly DecoderPro.?
Win10 on? one system and Win XP on other.?

On occasion, the DecoderPro start up is greeted with the "Getting Started"? and my existing ROSTER is not presented. To fix this, all I do is restart DecoderPro without any changes and the ROSTER table returns.? All? roster table column width setup has now been lost for the umphteen time but all data is present.

What I have noticed is this might happen after adding a NEW Profile (sometimes done for testing)? and the next Profile of mine? I select? may come up without the Roster Table. ?

I see this on Win10 and Windows XP.? The XP Systems is currently on 4.19.3 Jenkins and exibits the symptom even after changing the User Files Location as a suggested made by some.? Win10 system is running 4.18, same symptom.

I view the session and message? logs and see nothing reported.

I view the User-Interface.xml? and User-Interface.xml.2.bak? and notice ?

User-Interface.xml shows this :?

<columns>
??????????????? <column hidden="true" name="Last Operated" order="11" width="165"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Owner" order="8" width="52"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="true" name="Operating Duration" order="12" width="112"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Road Number" order="5" width="85"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Date Modified" order="9" width="86"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="DCC Address" order="1" width="83"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Manufacturer" order="6" width="85"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Model" order="7" width="48"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="ID" order="0" width="31"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Icon" order="2" width="41"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Decoder Model" order="3" width="91"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="true" name="Protocol" order="10" width="59"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Road Name" order="4" width="75"/>
??????????? </columns>

User_Interface.xml.2.bak shows this? (as well as User-Interface.xml.3.bak):

<columns>
??????????????? <column hidden="true" name="Last Operated" order="11" width="165"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Owner" order="8" width="88"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="true" name="Operating Duration" order="12" width="112"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Road Number" order="5" width="75"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Date Modified" order="9" width="143"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="DCC Address" order="1" width="68"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Manufacturer" order="6" width="168"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Model" order="7" width="211"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="ID" order="0" width="31"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Icon" order="2" width="56"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Decoder Model" order="3" width="188"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="true" name="Protocol" order="10" width="59"/>
??????????????? <column hidden="false" name="Road Name" order="4" width="106"/>
??????????? </columns>

So for some reason out of the blue? the Column widths? have been changed AFTER the ROSTER table had gone missing and then recovered.

I do not see what I might have wrong in my JMRI install that might be causing this nuisance.

Marc

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Clay,

Apologies to those who have seen a similar post to the Soundtraxx group.
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Just received a new Walthers Proto New York Central GP7 Model 920-42107 and looking to bring this locomotive into my JMRI Decoder Pro roster.? The documentation in the box only refers to? "Tsunami Digital Sound by Soundtraxx" and the decoder paperwork is dated 2011 (although the Walthers paperwork for the locomotive is dated 2018).

In searching the message history of our group, messages from January 2019 hint that this locomotive may have a Soundtraxx TSU-WW56 REV A decoder.? I pulled the shell off of mine and all identifying marks are on the bottom of the decoder as it is installed. Buried and mostly unreadable, but I can see Soundtraxx and 2011 on the board.

All that said, since there isn't a Walthers OEM GP7 decoder in the DP Soundtraxx list (or a TSU-WW56), what is the recommended decoder selection for this locomotive in Decoder Pro?

Thank you in advance.

-Dan Howard

Thanks for the quick replies!

Here is the log as requested:

2020-02-05 18:32:55,564 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]
2020-02-05 18:32:55,626 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Ted\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
2020-02-05 18:32:55,626 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Ted\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
2020-02-05 18:32:55,642 apps.AppsBase???????????????????????? INFO? - DecoderPro version 4.16+R6f9aced starts under Java 1.8.0_241 on Windows 7 amd64 v6.1 at Wed Feb 05 18:32:55 MST 2020 [main]
2020-02-05 18:32:56,016 gui3.Apps3??????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3eefe938 [main]
2020-02-05 18:32:56,266 node.NodeIdentity???????????????????? INFO? - Using 2da3f17a-3927-4623-97f8-a4e227c89699 as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3eefe938 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2020-02-05 18:32:56,453 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "LocoNet" [main]
2020-02-05 18:32:56,952 locobufferusb.LocoBufferUsbAdapter??? INFO? - LocoBuffer-USB adapter set hardware flow control, mode=2 RTSCTS_OUT=2 RTSCTS_IN=1 [main]
2020-02-05 18:32:56,952 locobuffer.LocoBufferAdapter????????? INFO? - COM5 port opened at 19200 baud with DTR: true RTS: true DSR: true CTS: true? CD: false [main]
2020-02-05 18:32:57,030 loconet.LnPacketizer????????????????? INFO? - lnPacketizer Started [main]
2020-02-05 18:32:57,686 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]
2020-02-05 18:32:57,686 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\Ted\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\ [main]
2020-02-05 18:32:57,686 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\Ted\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\ [main]
2020-02-05 18:32:57,686 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\Ted\JMRI\ [main]
2020-02-05 18:32:57,686 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\Ted\ [main]
2020-02-05 18:32:57,686 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\jython\ [main]

I do note it says com 5 opened at 19200 baud even though in the advanced settings it says 56200 baud and is grayed out so I can't change it.

I have the Loco-Buffer-USB and both green leds are on and the red one is not.

Device Manager says the driver is the RR CirKits version 2.8.24.0 dated 4-13-2012 and it is signed. Clicking on update driver gives the results that the newest driver is already installed.

Thanks again!

Ted Ellis

To add to my post of a few minutes ago, I just noticed in the System Console?the following which happens when I try to Edit the "X" Signal Head Icon to a valid signal head icon family:

2020-02-05 19:09:54,619 ptionhandler.UncaughtExceptionHandler ERROR - Uncaught Exception caught by jmri.util.exceptionhandler.UncaughtExceptionHandler [AWT-EventQueue-0]
java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: Invalid index
?at javax.swing.DefaultRowSorter.convertRowIndexToModel(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.JTable.convertRowIndexToModel(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.JTable.getValueAt(Unknown Source)
?at jmri.jmrit.display.palette.SignalHeadItemPanel.valueChanged(SignalHeadItemPanel.java:82)
?at javax.swing.DefaultListSelectionModel.fireValueChanged(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultListSelectionModel.fireValueChanged(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultListSelectionModel.fireValueChanged(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultListSelectionModel.changeSelection(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultListSelectionModel.changeSelection(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultListSelectionModel.removeSelectionIntervalImpl(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultListSelectionModel.clearSelection(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.JTable.clearSelection(Unknown Source)
?at jmri.jmrit.display.palette.TableItemPanel.getTableSelection(TableItemPanel.java:208)
?at jmri.jmrit.display.SignalHeadIcon.updateItem(SignalHeadIcon.java:413)
?at jmri.jmrit.display.SignalHeadIcon$9.actionPerformed(SignalHeadIcon.java:389)
?at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseReleased(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue.access$500(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown Source)
?at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
?at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source)
?at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source)
?at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
?at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)

I've revised the subject line on the thread I started a few days back to be a bit more descriptive as it was suggested that I need to be more descriptive in both the subject line and the description (which indeed I do!).? Previous thread was "Having Issues with Panels Pallets".

I am running JMRI v4.18 on a Windows 7 computer connected to a Digitrax DB200 through a LocoBuffer-USB.? I'm not using masts (I've not quite figured those things out yet), and all signal heads are virtual.? I have?4 Panel Editor panels, and one Layout Editor panel.

When I drag and drop a signal head from the Item Pallet to the Panel Editor, I get a red "X" that shows up where the signal head should have been placed - basically the "no image for this signal head state" icon.? The layout XML file shows the following for this signal head:

<signalheadicon signalhead="SH_1A3.N" x="922" y="311" level="9" forcecontroloff="false" hidden="no" positionable="true" showtooltip="true" editable="true" clickmode="3" litmode="false" class="jmri.jmrit.display.configurexml.SignalHeadIconXml">
????? <tooltip>TEST SH_1A3.N</tooltip>
????? <icons />
????? <iconmaps family="RJE_SHicon_Searchlight" />
??? </signalheadicon>

The Panel Editor panel has working signal heads, and these can be?duplicated and moved, and these look just fine.? For the same signal head (duplicated), I see the following in the XML file:

??? <signalheadicon signalhead="SH_1A3.N" x="885" y="306" level="10" forcecontroloff="false" hidden="no" positionable="true" showtooltip="true" editable="true" clickmode="3" litmode="true" class="jmri.jmrit.display.configurexml.SignalHeadIconXml">
????? <tooltip>SH_1A3.N</tooltip>
????? <icons>
??????? <held url="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchErrorFlash.gif" degrees="0" scale="1.0">
????????? <rotation>0</rotation>
??????? </held>
??????? <dark url="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchOff.png" degrees="0" scale="1.0">
????????? <rotation>0</rotation>
??????? </dark>
??????? <red url="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchRed.png" degrees="0" scale="1.0">
????????? <rotation>0</rotation>
??????? </red>
??????? <yellow url="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchYellow.png" degrees="0" scale="1.0">
????????? <rotation>0</rotation>
??????? </yellow>
??????? <green url="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchGreen.png" degrees="0" scale="1.0">
????????? <rotation>0</rotation>
??????? </green>
??????? <flashred url="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchRedFlash.gif" degrees="0" scale="1.0">
????????? <rotation>0</rotation>
??????? </flashred>
??????? <flashyellow url="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchYellowFlash.gif" degrees="0" scale="1.0">
????????? <rotation>0</rotation>
??????? </flashyellow>
??????? <flashgreen url="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchGreenFlash.gif" degrees="0" scale="1.0">
????????? <rotation>0</rotation>
??????? </flashgreen>
????? </icons>
????? <iconmaps family="RJE_SHicon_Searchlight" />
??? </signalheadicon>

From what I can tell, the drag and drop from the Palette should be filling in the detailed info that follows <icons> but does not.

When I right click on the bad signal had icon (i.e. the "X") to Edit the signal head, I get a message that says "Family name "RJE_SHicon_Searchlight" is the name of a different icon set for SignalHeads in the Catalog.? Please change the name."? When I put in a new name, say "TEST", I get another pop-up that asks me to add the new icon set to the palette, which I answer "Yes" to.? Then I return to the "Item Panel - Palette",?"TEST" shows up as an icon set you can select, but no icon shows up that I can drag and drop.? When I try to change an existing working signal head to this new iton set, it will not do it ("Item Panel - Palette" just sits there and does nothing when you press "Update Panel").? If I go to a different Panel Editor Panel, then back to the first one I was working on, the new icon set is not there any more to select.

When I open the catalogTrees.XML file, I see:

<node nodeName="SignalHead">
???? <node nodeName="RJE_SHicon_Searchlight">
????????? <leaf name="SignalHeadStateFlashingGreen" path="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchGreenFlash.gif" />
????????? <leaf name="SignalHeadStateHeld" path="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchErrorFlash.gif" />
????????? <leaf name="SignalHeadStateFlashingYellow" path="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchYellowFlash.gif" />
????????? <leaf name="SignalHeadStateDark" path="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchOff.png" />
????????? <leaf name="SignalHeadStateRed" path="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchRed.png" />
????????? <leaf name="SignalHeadStateYellow" path="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchYellow.png" />
????????? <leaf name="SignalHeadStateGreen" path="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchGreen.png" />
????????? <leaf name="SignalHeadStateFlashingRed" path="program:resources/icons/_RJE/Signals/SearchRedFlash.gif" />
??????? </node>

My Console Dump is pretty clean - see previous thread or I can resend it if helpful.? Let me know if any additional info would help.

Sorry for the long-winditude, but hopefully this better explains my difficulties.? I suspect it is something simple I have screwed up, but not quite sure what it might be.

Many thanks.

BobE

Rodney,
I want to make sure I understand what you want me to do. With CATS open, when I try and load a panel and it fails, you want to see what the system console says. Is that correct?
Thanks Clay

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 05:03 PM, Dave Sand wrote:

If you "copy" an existing profile using Preferences >> Config Profiles, it will behave as you expect.

?

For the majority of people, a single profile at the "settings:" location works fine, and it is the default for new installs/profiles.

?

My "expectation "? is to see it behave as Dave Heap states it should and NOT create the " User Files Location" as?
"? User Files Location: C:\Documents and Settings\Marc\JMRI\easy_DCC.jmri\? "

But as :
?" User Files Location: C:\Documents and Settings\Marc\JMRI\ "

My example was not done via a "copy" in? Preferences >> Config Profiles. It was done in the "Set Active Profile" at start up using the? "New" to create a."Profile"

I do not understand your "majority of people" point.? The single profile created by default is " My_JMRI_Railroad " and is what the majority end up with.?
Here is what we get when NO JMRI user folder has been defined yet :

User Files Location: C:\Documents and Settings\Marc\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\
Roster Location: C:\Documents and Settings\Marc\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\
Profile Location: C:\Documents and Settings\Marc\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\
Settings Location: C:\Documents and Settings\Marc\JMRI\
Current Config file:C:\Documents and Settings\Marc\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\ProfileConfig.xml
Scripts Location: C:\Program Files\JMRI\jython\
Program Location: C:\Program Files\JMRI
Temp Files Location:C:\DOCUME~1\Marc\LOCALS~1\Temp\
Log Files Location: C:\Documents and Settings\Marc\JMRI\log\
? C:\Documents and Settings\Marc\JMRI\log\messages.log
? C:\Documents and Settings\Marc\JMRI\log\session.log

And, again,? the User Files Location is NOT as Dave Heap states it should be.?

I "expect" it to behave as the experts say is "Best ".

All this is to try and resolve a recurring " lost roster " condition at start up similar to what Mike has reported. This " lost roster " has been plaguing me thru many updates and on different computers and different operating systems..

Marc

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