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I think I figured out why my display is missing parts, because I have a short in my layout panel, but in reality it?is a gapped self reversing block. ?Any advice how to set that up in the layout editor? ?Attachments coming soon.
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Re: DecoderPro Preferences folder is empty
To All:
JMRI 4.17.6 was installed with all the defaults taken & also "all" users.
I printed out the Profile Directory Tutorial from the link you posted & will get that read. I also printed out the Install Guide: Windows & see what all happens.
Thanks - Dennis Munro
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 6:15 PM Dave Heap < dgheap@...> wrote: Dennis,
> On 10 Dec 2019, at 8:49 AM, The Munros <the.berlin.munros@...> wrote:
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> I also was looking at the authority of LaunchJMRI.exe after the install.? "Users" have only Read & Execute & Read authority.? I am generally inclined to run an important app with admin authority.? Is that a problem?? Admins & System users have full authority.? LaunchJMRI is in the same folder as the InstallTest batch file but here I probably right clicked the batch file & clicked Run as Administrator.
JMRI should be installed "For All Users" (install with administrator privileges) but after this it's fine to run LaunchJMRI.exe with user privileges. JMRI runtime never attempts to modify the "C:\Program Files(x86)\JMRI\" directory hierarchy. The basic JMRI Settings are stored in "C:\Users\<yourusername>\JMRI\" (The Settings Location in Help->Locations). Other settings are stored in Profile Location and a few in User Files Location.
Installing JMRI "For This User Only" is not generally recommended and can lead to problems, not the least of which is two JMRI installations; one in the "C:\Program Files(x86)\JMRI\" directory and another in the user's hidden AppData...VirtualStore...JMRI hierarchy (not at a Windows machine to give exact path now), with the user being exposed to a an overlay of the two. This is usually manifest as two JMRI installations in Programs and Features, but manually cleaning out any JMRI references in the registry would erase such evidence and require a manual clean out of both locations.
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BTW: For any Linux users, running JMRI as root can cause persistent problems with variants such as Ubuntu, Mint, etc.
Dave in Australia
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Dennis, On 10 Dec 2019, at 8:49 AM, The Munros <the.berlin.munros@...> wrote:
I also was looking at the authority of LaunchJMRI.exe after the install. "Users" have only Read & Execute & Read authority. I am generally inclined to run an important app with admin authority. Is that a problem? Admins & System users have full authority. LaunchJMRI is in the same folder as the InstallTest batch file but here I probably right clicked the batch file & clicked Run as Administrator. JMRI should be installed "For All Users" (install with administrator privileges) but after this it's fine to run LaunchJMRI.exe with user privileges. JMRI runtime never attempts to modify the "C:\Program Files(x86)\JMRI\" directory hierarchy. The basic JMRI Settings are stored in "C:\Users\<yourusername>\JMRI\" (The Settings Location in Help->Locations). Other settings are stored in Profile Location and a few in User Files Location. Installing JMRI "For This User Only" is not generally recommended and can lead to problems, not the least of which is two JMRI installations; one in the "C:\Program Files(x86)\JMRI\" directory and another in the user's hidden AppData...VirtualStore...JMRI hierarchy (not at a Windows machine to give exact path now), with the user being exposed to a an overlay of the two. This is usually manifest as two JMRI installations in Programs and Features, but manually cleaning out any JMRI references in the registry would erase such evidence and require a manual clean out of both locations. <> BTW: For any Linux users, running JMRI as root can cause persistent problems with variants such as Ubuntu, Mint, etc. Dave in Australia
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You are correct Alfredo. F6 sets the volume. There is also a pot in the bottom of the locomotive, but it seems to have no effect. Unfortunately, the lowest volume is still too loud for my small room in my opinion. I may have to look at changing out the decoder eventually.?
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You can see the setup for the JMRI installer here: That¡¯s the NSIS configuration file which builds the installer. Search for ¡°regis¡± to see various items that mention registry operations. Bob On Dec 9, 2019, at 1:49 PM, The Munros <the.berlin.munros@...> wrote:
To Marc & Dave,
After spending 30+ years as a IBM business computer programmer & then almost 10 years working with IBM rack mounted servers, my references to the registry entries I was finding is my way to try & help with my problem. That is the reason for running CrudCleaner to find those unattached registry entries & get rid of them. What I did not do was to run RegEdit to "find" all the JMRI references still left after running CrudCleaner. The references I found last night was after an install of 4.17.6 after uninstalling 4.16. What i am drawing a blank is how I did the uninstall. For programs I use the Start || Settings || Apps || Apps & Features || the icon for the program being uninstalled which in this case was JMRI.
I also was looking at the authority of LaunchJMRI.exe after the install. "Users" have only Read & Execute & Read authority. I am generally inclined to run an important app with admin authority. Is that a problem? Admins & System users have full authority. LaunchJMRI is in the same folder as the InstallTest batch file but here I probably right clicked the batch file & clicked Run as Administrator.
I will continue to wonder through the logs looking for Errors or something that to me raises a question.
Thanks - Dennis Munro
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 3:20 PM <forfoum@...> wrote:
Dave,
OK. JMRI does not use/modify the registry ... but simply installing JMRI causes 26 "changes" to the registry.
This I observed from a clean, 0% JMRI present in registry, install and then Immediate uninstall of JMRI without using or working with any component of JMRI. There were still 14 changes to registry present re JMRI AFTER uninstall of JMRI using Apps & features.
After a reboot of PC, thinking an update to registry might occur, the 14 changes to registry re JMRI still remain. Granted these are possibly not from the JMRI Installer per say, but they are done during the install process.
And I doubt it has anything to do with what Dennis is encountering, just my observation, for what it is worth.
Marc
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To Marc/Dave:
Looking through the?C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI folder, I found two error log files named hs_err_pid4864.log & hs_err_pid8532.log. I'm guessing but I will try the Preferences option again to see if it generates another log file.
<SNIP>? Contents of the first 20 or so lines #
# A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
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# ?EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x654921f4, pid=8532, tid=0x0000353c
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# JRE version: Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (8.0_101-b13) (build 1.8.0_101-b13)
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (25.101-b13 mixed mode windows-x86 )
# Problematic frame:
# C ?[msvcr100.dll+0x121f4]
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# Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Windows
#
# If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
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# The crash happened outside the Java Virtual Machine in native code.
# See problematic frame for where to report the bug.
#
<SNIP>
Don't know if this is a problem or not.
Thanks - Dennis Munro
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 3:22 AM Dave Heap < dgheap@...> wrote: Marc,
> On 9 Dec 2019, at 4:09 PM, forfoum@... wrote:
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> Never mind the 4 page report on registry, pointless, unless someone else wants it.? I've been thru the Win10 registry several times myself deleting anything relating to JMRI.? While it is a interesting endeavour, it is pretty futile.
JMRI doesn't directly use/modify the registry. Apart from below, you won't find any registry entries referencing JMRI.
The JMRI installer software (NSIS) writes standard? registry entries to indicate that JMRI is installed (Programs and Features).? They are cleaned out by using Uninstall (preferably from Programs and Feature). This will also show up multiple installations.
Dave in Australia
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To Marc & Dave,
After spending 30+ years as a IBM business computer programmer & then almost 10 years working with IBM rack mounted servers, my references to the registry entries I was finding is my way to try & help with my problem.? That is the reason for running CrudCleaner to find those unattached registry entries & get rid of them.? What I did not do was to run RegEdit to "find" all the JMRI references still left after running CrudCleaner.? The references?I found last night was after an install of 4.17.6 after uninstalling 4.16.? What i am drawing a blank is how I did the uninstall.? For programs I use the Start || Settings || Apps || Apps & Features || the icon for the program being uninstalled which in this case was JMRI.
I also was looking at the authority of LaunchJMRI.exe after the install.? "Users" have only Read & Execute & Read authority.? I am generally inclined to run an important app with admin authority.? Is that a problem?? Admins & System users have full authority.? LaunchJMRI is in the same folder as the InstallTest batch file but here I probably right clicked the batch file & clicked Run as Administrator.
I will continue to wonder through the logs looking for Errors or something that to me raises a question.
Thanks - Dennis Munro
Dave,
OK.?? JMRI does not use/modify the registry ...? but simply installing JMRI causes? 26 "changes" to the registry.
This I observed from a clean, 0% JMRI present in registry,? install? and then Immediate uninstall of JMRI without using or working with any component of JMRI. There were? still 14 changes to registry present re JMRI AFTER uninstall of JMRI? using Apps & features.?
After a reboot of PC, thinking an update to registry might occur, the 14 changes to registry re JMRI ? still remain. Granted these are possibly not from the JMRI Installer per say, but they are done during the install process.
And I doubt it has anything to do with what Dennis is encountering, just my observation, for what it is worth.
Marc
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Re: DecoderPro Preferences folder is empty
Dave,
OK.?? JMRI does not use/modify the registry ...? but simply installing JMRI causes? 26 "changes" to the registry.
This I observed from a clean, 0% JMRI present in registry,? install? and then Immediate uninstall of JMRI without using or working with any component of JMRI. There were? still 14 changes to registry present re JMRI AFTER uninstall of JMRI? using Apps & features.?
After a reboot of PC, thinking an update to registry might occur, the 14 changes to registry re JMRI ? still remain. Granted these are possibly not from the JMRI Installer per say, but they are done during the install process.
And I doubt it has anything to do with what Dennis is encountering, just my observation, for what it is worth.
Marc
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Re: Recover definition on decoder pro
Peter,? My take is he deleted the roster entry for the engine. Confusion sets in because of the wording he uses.
Frank,? Definition files are what the authors write up and provide? us re decoders.? We then use these definition files and? create our Roster entries from the details provided in the definition file.?
I doubt you? would have played around in the "definition" files them self, let alone delete. This is not something that can be done within JMRI.? You can ADD definition files but not remove definition files from within JMRI. ?
Marc
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I'm confused about what you actually deleted.
Did you delete a decoder definition? Not something you can do from within JMRI.
Or did you delete a locomotive roster file?
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hi Steve,
thank you for your response and your advice
I'm trying your solutions in the next few days
I'll give you the results
a good day
Luc
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Nicholas:
Does this system use DCC commands? I suspect that the app that runs the locomotive has an exclusive command set..?
If you don't mind who is this vendor?
Jim Albanowski
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Marc, On 9 Dec 2019, at 4:09 PM, forfoum@... wrote:
Never mind the 4 page report on registry, pointless, unless someone else wants it. I've been thru the Win10 registry several times myself deleting anything relating to JMRI. While it is a interesting endeavour, it is pretty futile. JMRI doesn't directly use/modify the registry. Apart from below, you won't find any registry entries referencing JMRI. The JMRI installer software (NSIS) writes standard registry entries to indicate that JMRI is installed (Programs and Features). They are cleaned out by using Uninstall (preferably from Programs and Feature). This will also show up multiple installations. Dave in Australia
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Yes.?? There is a .bak file for each roster entry. This is located where your ROSTER folder is located.?
You can use HELP, LOCATIONS to find where your ROSTER folder is located.? You go to this folder and find your file among? the existing? .BAK files and rename it by simply removing the .BAK portion.
Once this is done, start DecoderPro, and request a ' Recreate Roster Index '.? Your? roster entry should then appear.
Marc
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Re: Roco locomotive / Motorola decoder
If it¡¯s a Zimo (likely on a modern Roco loco), then further CV¡¯s (starting with CV7) will get to both the Zimo software revision and the decoder hardware description.
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There is a fair chance that the specific version in the loco isn¡¯t in JMRI.? But, that doesn¡¯t matter as 99% of Zimo features are common over a lot of hardware
and software revisions, so picking something close in the JMRI list will work fine.???? The task of keeping up with the rate of releases from Zimo is difficult (dozens of software releases, every decoder being end-user upgradeable to any new software version),
so quite a lot of small releases don¡¯t get noted and/or don¡¯t get to Zimo definition files in JMRI.
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On Behalf Of alain c via Groups.Io
Sent: 09 December 2019 07:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Roco locomotive / Motorola decoder
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As Marc just said, CV 7 only gives the Zimo Software version number (currently 37 or higher), the decoder model itself is stored in CV250. Thus JMRI should tell you to chose the model depending on the Zimo SW version.
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Re: Roco locomotive / Motorola decoder
Hi Robert, It helps when you provide more information as others have suggested. Here goes with the little we have. The NEM651 is commonly used in N scale locomotives. As such the decoder is likely to be a Zimo MX648 or MX649, small format sound decoder. Similarly, no problem in programming the address. I use NCE as well as DP. Cheers John Sunny Australia
Quite possible, CV7 will give us an idea where it stands.?
Unless Robert can tell us what specific Zimo decoder it is.? NEM651 is of no help.? Must be MX???? or similar.? MAybe tell us with specific ROCO engine it is and we can fish for details.
Could also be as simple as adding the decoder in question to the list.?
At present CV7 = 37 is the highest value in definition file.
Marc
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As Marc just said, CV 7 only gives the Zimo Software version number (currently 37 or higher), the decoder model itself is stored in CV250. Thus JMRI should tell you to chose the model depending on the Zimo SW version.
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Recover definition on decoder pro
I am using version 4.17.5 with an Apple laptop. I used Decoder Pro to program the decoder in a older locomotive. All was working fine until I accidentally deleted the DCC definition in Decoder Pro while trying to speed match it to a second locomotive ?
in there a way to recover a decoder definition that has been deleted?
?Unfortunately I cannot download the deleted definition from the original locomotive as I changed it during my speed matching attempt. Thank you.?
Frank in Houston (learning the hard way)?
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