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Re: Feedback to Panel for NCE throttle commands
One other little gremlin I have noticed when using Monitoring, is that an external poll of the switch status may cause an incorrect state to be displayed on a Layout Editor Panel for turnouts marked as INVERTED in the Turnout table.
I use an RRCirKits TC64 on LocoNet to control switch machines. When I enable track power on the DCS100 it does a poll of the known switches on LocoNet. The TC64 responds with the switch statuses. When PanelPro sees these responses on the LocoNet it updates the display on my Layout Editor Panel. However for any turnouts which have INVERTED set in the turnout table now display the opposite to how they set are on the layout. I think the INVERTED flag is not being applied to the response coming back from LocoNet. I cannot remember if it also happened when the handheld throttles were used to throw Inverted switches. This was not important until I started running auto trains when now the state JMRI thinks the switches are in has became critical. This may be a BUG in JMRI or could be due to my idiosyncratic system. I avoided the problem by inverting the turnouts in the TC64 rather than the JMRI turnout table. MacOS, DCS100, TC64, JMRI 4.15.x, and 4.17.1-4 Cheers Don McGilvery |
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Re: Layout editor - connecting slips to turnouts
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDave,If I may, I would comment that the ability to create a Double Crossover using 4 turnouts and a Diamond Crossing would be a great help as would the ability to have a smooth transition/join between Slips and Turnouts. The sheer number of different designs, by manufacturers around the World that are available to us, matching the actual angles for individual Turnouts, Slips and Crossings is one thing but the creation of set formations may require separate icons that use different angles just to fit more neatly into a track plan.? Dave ?
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Re: Layout editor - connecting slips to turnouts
#layouteditor
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Dave Sorry for the delay in replying. Was away yesterday. I have set up as you suggested and what I am finding is the HELP info below the layout display appears to be greater width than the main display window w/o the ability to adjust it or see the hidden info. Is there a way of modifying the turnout angles to be 45 deg in all cases? Currently the LH RH turnouts have a 22.5 deg angle between normal and diverging routes. Thanks for your help. Best wishes Peter ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Sand
Sent: 17 September 2019 15:37 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Layout editor - connecting slips to turnouts ? Peter, ? Select "Options >> Show Help Bar in Edit Mode" from the Layout Editor menu. ?This will show the key and mouse actions based on your operating system. ? Dave Sand ?
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Re: VSD CLASS 64 COASTING WEIRDNESS
Conrad,
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A left mouse click above the slider handle should increase the speed by one speed step, a click below should decrease the speed by one speed step. You can save your throttle layout, see the File menu. Your triggers are set up fine. HALF_SPEED is the correct name. The trick on HALF_SPEED is, that your lokpilot nano must be assigned to F8 as well (default is F3). You could also try assigning F3 in config.xml. (BTW, in one of my last post, I gave you a false recommendation for engine gain. It's not <gain> but <engine-gain>. Sorry! The documentation on is correct) Thanks for the console log. I don't see a VSD sound crash there. But the LocoNet "WARN - slot 1 address 5514 is already in-use" could be a clue for a VSD issue. I assume that there isn't an engine sound at all. Maybe VSD could not listen to the throttle with address 5514. Wasn't there a steal question? Probably not, because of the headless mode. On the console log output format. Especially for the video I changed the format. Klaus Am 18.09.2019 um 00:36 schrieb conrad: Klaus, |
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Re: Digitrax decoder firmware
Hi all,
I (and others) have this issue with various digitrax decoders. (DH123D, DH126D, DH166MT, DH126MT, DH165LO, DN136D, DZ146PS) When running them on a uhlenbrock intellibox command station the sequence of event is as follows: Firstly the light starts to blink, then goes out completely. Then all fine motor speed control is lost.? A decoder reset seems to fix the lighting issue but the fine motor speed control remains useless. (That is why I am thinking that the firmware in the decoder has been corrupted by the command station)? Exactly the same thing happens regardless of the command station or decoder settings. It seems to me that all digitrax decoders are in no way compatible with a uhlenbrock intellibox command station. |
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Re: Having issues connecting on closed Wifi
Frank in Houston
Please ?explain this new app and how I can get it. Perhaps it will solve my problem as well. I am referring to to the issues I raised a day or two ago about repeated loosing connection and reconnecting my android telephone with my router while trying to run trains.?
Thank you. Frank in Houston? |
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Edit of build report
#operationspro
Frank in Houston
Hello recently when I want to edit the ¡°build report¡± after building a train, I can no longer find the ¡°find¡± option which normally appears at the top of the build report. This option highlights the item in the entire build report that I want to investigate. For example, car number or location or other items. ??Has something changed or am I failing to do some thing? ?I am using the latest release 4-17-4 and my computer is an IMac. Thank you. Frank in Houston? |
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Re: Feedback to Panel for NCE throttle commands
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýRight, that was the link that I went to, but it just wasn¡¯t all sinking in. ?Your explanations were very helpful.Thomas Cain Indianapolis, IN atsf93@... See my?NEW website?and layout?at: ? Modeling the Eastern Illinois?Santa Fe from the Prototype
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Re: New Hornby TTS Decoder
There is a general definition already in JMRI for the Hornby TTS decoder. I used it to alter settings on my TTS fitted Hornby P2. There is no need for specific definition for the Britannia, the only difference will be the sound files, the cv settings should be common across all TTS.
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Re: VSD CLASS 64 COASTING WEIRDNESS
Klaus,
I got JMRI throttle coasting to work.? Page down and left mouse/page down did not work.? BUT, I stumbled on right mouse, saw properties and a check box for "track slider in real time".? It works and makes some sort of sense.? One problem is that I have to access this property every time I open a throttle. My decoder is a lokpilot nano that has a functioning "shunt speed" however no success with VSD.? COAST, however works fine. Here are my triggers: <trigger name="HALF_SPEED" type="THROTTLE">
<event-name>F8</event-name>
<target-name>ENGINE</target-name>
<action>NOTHING</action>
? ? ? </trigger>
? ? ? <trigger name="COAST" type="THROTTLE">
<event-name>F9</event-name>
<target-name>ENGINE</target-name>
<action>NOTHING</action>
? ? ? </trigger>
and variations of the trigger name -? "ENGINE_HALF_SPEED", "ENGINE_HALFSPEED" and "HALFSPEED" alone For the Engine Driver Wi-throttle things are better.? It no longer locks up, function F9 (COAST) works and with a reasonable sliding decrease in throttle I can get it to coast.? It's a little flaky.? Slider action has to be just so to make it coast - too slow and just a normal slow down, too fast and skipping.? No lockup though.?? Think I'll work on your suggestion to?increase the value <decel-trigger-rpms>8</decel-trigger-rpms>. Here's my console log file (doesn't seem to have any throttle info).? My console info does not look like yours on 2019-09-17 17:56:05,283 util.Log4JUtil? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:05,361 util.Log4JUtil? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\conrad\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:05,361 util.Log4JUtil? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\conrad\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:05,376 apps.Apps? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - PanelPro version 4.16+R6f9aced starts under Java 1.8.0_221 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Tue Sep 17 17:56:05 EDT 2019 [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:07,079 apps.Apps? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f132008 [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:07,517 node.NodeIdentity? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Using jmri-osZcIaSGWhOiaaabMr20Sa-3f132008 as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3f132008 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2019-09-17 17:56:07,876 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "LocoNet" [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:08,595 pr3.PR3Adapter? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - PR3 adapter set hardware flow control, mode=2 RTSCTS_OUT=2 RTSCTS_IN=1 [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:08,611 locobuffer.LocoBufferAdapter? ? ? ? ? INFO? - COM4 port opened at 57600 baud with DTR: true RTS: true DSR: false CTS: false? CD: false [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:08,689 loconet.LnPacketizer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - lnPacketizer Started [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:12,658 util.FileUtilSupport? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:12,674 util.FileUtilSupport? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\conrad\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:12,689 util.FileUtilSupport? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\conrad\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:12,689 util.FileUtilSupport? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\conrad\JMRI\ [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:12,689 util.FileUtilSupport? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\conrad\ [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:12,689 util.FileUtilSupport? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\jython\ [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:13,939 PanelPro.PanelPro? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Main initialization done [main]
2019-09-17 17:56:16,799 vsdecoder.VSDecoderPreferences? ? ? ? INFO? - Did not find VSDecoder preferences file.? This is normal if you haven't save the preferences before [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2019-09-17 17:56:16,960 audio.JoalAudioFactory? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - Initialised JOAL using OpenAL: vendor - OpenAL Community version - 1.1 ALSOFT 1.15.1 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2019-09-17 17:56:19,387 withrottle.FacelessServer? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Published ZeroConf service for 'my jmri railroad._withrottle._tcp.local.' on fe80:0:0:0:60ca:5e0e:ea89:ae2%eth4:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2019-09-17 17:56:21,977 withrottle.FacelessServer? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Published ZeroConf service for 'my jmri railroad._withrottle._tcp.local.' on 192.168.1.14:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2019-09-17 17:56:21,977 withrottle.FacelessServer? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Creating new WiThrottle DeviceServer(socket) on port 12090, waiting for incoming connection... [WiThrottleServer]
2019-09-17 17:56:51,275 loconet.LnThrottleManager? ? ? ? ? ? ?WARN? - slot 1 address 5514 is already in-use. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2019-09-17 17:56:51,306 loconet.LnPacketizer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? WARN? - LocoNet message with opCode: ef ended early. Expected length: 14 seen length: 4 unexpected byte: b4 [LocoNet receive handler]
2019-09-17 18:07:31,569 withrottle.FacelessServer? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Creating new WiThrottle DeviceServer(socket) on port 12090, waiting for incoming connection... [WiThrottleServer]
2019-09-17 18:07:31,569 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Received Name: Engine Driver 2cfd [DeviceServer-1]
Again, thank you for all your help. Conrad ?
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Re: Feedback to Panel for NCE throttle commands
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThomas, On 18 Sep 2019, at 5:00 AM, Tom Cain <atsf93@...> wrote: I do have a couple of questions. ?Am I giving up anything by changing from Direct to Monitoring in the Mode setting on the Turnout table? No. However, any monitoring system increases traffic between JMRI and your Command Station. An alternative, the use of on-turnout sensors and AIUs not only increases cost, wiring complexity and?traffic between JMRI and the command station but also increases NCE cab bus traffic. And, where were the instructions on this function in the JMRI website? ?If I can find my way there, maybe I¡¯ll discover some other cool features. The only ones I know of are at the link I initially gave you: <> Dave in Australia |
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Re: VSD CLASS 64 COASTING WEIRDNESS
Am 17.09.2019 um 18:32 schrieb conrad:
Strange coasting behavior.? Boy, this took a while to decipher.1) Have you tried the keyboard key "Page Down" twice? 2) If the throttle decreases to much, try a left-mouse-click beneath the slider handle followed by a "Page Down" 3) Try to increase the value <decel-trigger-rpms>8</decel-trigger-rpms> in your config.xml. The value defines how many rpms within 0.5 seconds shall trigger the coasting action. 4) (1) - (3) deals with auto-coasting. Besides there is also key-coasting, i.e. coasting can be switched on or off with a throttle key. See (sroll down to section "More throttle key functions ... Coast-Key). With Digitrax DT400R throttle coasting works with semi-rapid decrease in throttle, including brake_short.wav when coasting to a stop (step 0).? However, if not going to step zero, coasting sounds remain on until a one step increase in throttle (say 12 to 13).? Decreasing (say 12 to 11 or any amount) has no effect.? Always need a one step increase to get back to engine sounds.? When in coasting "state"? the coasting sounds are responding to decreases in throttle.? I assume this to be related to driver rpms.? When step 3 is reached loco goes to idle_sound.wav.? NOTE: Digitrax "steps" are displayed throttle numbers (1 to 100).Right. With Engine Driver Wi-throttle maybe a coast once in a while but usually jumps and/or? "notch" lock-ups, or a complete engine silence at any throttle setting (just idle sound).? When this happens (silence), other functions work but no reset with engine start/stop.? Only way to reset is to delete loco then, with decoder manager >> add decoder then select a profile? >> Class64.It looks like a sound crash in VSD. Is this crash easy to generate and repeatable and only related to auto-coasting? Takeaway - Coasting is a very nice VSD?sound effect for steam locos.? This implementation sounds great but I think it needs to be understood that it doesn't have deceleration built in.? One has to manually decrease the throttle to zero to come to a complete stop.? Or give a slight uptick in the throttle to keep on going at a lower speed.There is no build in deceleration on coasting, right. VSD is listening to a throttle and has no control over it, for example, to do speed-setting. This might be a limitation, but decreasing to speed zero while coasting is doable. See Are there any solutions for the JMRI and Wi-Throttle problems?Unfortunately I don't have the hardware to test it. So it would be very helpful to have a console log file, if this is possible at all. Klaus |
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Re: Feedback to Panel for NCE throttle commands
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDave,That worked! ?Thanks, that additional functionality is so very much appreciated. ?I do not allow operators to use Hammerhead throttles in Op Sessions for the reason that I could not see their switching activity on the screen, but my support crew often used controllers for turnouts in staging and I had to rely on their memory and cooperation in using their controllers. ?Now they can do some of their work and I or the dispatcher will be able to see track alignments. ?This is so cool! I do have a couple of questions. ?Am I giving up anything by changing from Direct to Monitoring in the Mode setting on the Turnout table? And, where were the instructions on this function in the JMRI website? ?If I can find my way there, maybe I¡¯ll discover some other cool features. Thanks again for your help with this and your patience in getting me there. Thomas Cain Indianapolis, IN Modeling the Eastern Illinois Santa Fe from the Prototype See my?NEW?website and layout at: ? |
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Re: TSU-PNP GE will not communicate with SPROG3
I'm guessing I have a bad decoder, as the single CV reset did not work. Thanks for the help!?
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Re: New Hornby TTS Decoder
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Marc,I have the paper copy that came with the decoder, is that any good? If so I can scan it. Eve
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Re: MRC Prodigy Advance Error
Bob,
I will for sure let you know, hopefully by the end of the week, as I am on a few days stretch for work. Thank you again for all the help. Ken |
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VSD CLASS 64 COASTING WEIRDNESS
Strange coasting behavior.? Boy, this took a while to decipher.
With the JMRI throttle no coasting regardless on slider action.? Nada, nil, zip! With Digitrax DT400R throttle coasting works with semi-rapid decrease in throttle, including brake_short.wav when coasting to a stop (step 0).? However, if not going to step zero, coasting sounds remain on until a one step increase in throttle (say 12 to 13).? Decreasing (say 12 to 11 or any amount) has no effect.? Always need a one step increase to get back to engine sounds.? When in coasting "state"? the coasting sounds are responding to decreases in throttle.? I assume this to be related to driver rpms.? When step 3 is reached loco goes to idle_sound.wav.? NOTE: Digitrax "steps" are displayed throttle numbers (1 to 100). With Engine Driver Wi-throttle maybe a coast once in a while but usually jumps and/or? "notch" lock-ups, or a complete engine silence at any throttle setting (just idle sound).? When this happens (silence), other functions work but no reset with engine start/stop.? Only way to reset is to delete loco then, with decoder manager >> add decoder then select a profile? >> Class64. Takeaway - Coasting is a very nice VSD?sound effect for steam locos.? This implementation sounds great but I think it needs to be understood that it doesn't have deceleration built in.? One has to manually decrease the throttle to zero to come to a complete stop.? Or give a slight uptick in the throttle to keep on going at a lower speed. ?Are there any solutions for the JMRI and Wi-Throttle problems? Conrad |
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Re: Layout editor - connecting slips to turnouts
#layouteditor
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Select "Options >> Show Help Bar in Edit Mode" from the Layout Editor menu. ?This will show the key and mouse actions based on your operating system. Dave Sand On Sep 17, 2019, at 2:21 AM, peter.s.drury via Groups.Io <peter.s.drury@...> wrote: |
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New Hornby TTS Decoder
Hi,
I¡¯m new to JMRI , so if I¡¯ve not asked my question according to a specific protocol, please forgive me. I¡¯ve successfully installed and used Decoder Pro and have been very impressed with it. I am using JMRI installed on a Macbook Pro connected to an NCE Power Pro. However I have tried unsuccessfully to find a Hornby TTS decoder for a Britannia (R7143) listed in the program, has anybody got such a file please? This is a recently added decoder from Hornby. Kind Regards, Eve Wallis |
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Re: MRC Prodigy Advance Error
There are installers here:
that I hope will fix this. I¡¯d appreciate hearing whether it did or not. Bob -- Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@... |