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Thanks.

Peace,

Mike G.

On 10/28/2019 2:50 PM, Peter Ulvestad wrote:

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Storage track. #operationspro

#165198

My layout does not have a staging track in the traditional sense. All cars come on and off the layout via a car float that acts like a active fiddle yard. I have set up the barge as a Interchange/ classification track. Then have a train “five finger shuffle” take the cars from the Barge track to one of three other I/C tracks labeled Drawer 1, 2 and 3. I also have one spur that is where al my custom loads either originate or end their journey. I took all the foreign road cars and put the “return when empty to (their drawer #)“ this seemed to work fine cars with loads would go to the spur and then their drawer. But no car has ever left. Even my home road cars with custom loads go to the spur and then go to a random drawer and that’s where they die. I have tried to manually put destinations on to the cars. But they never leave the interchange/classification track. Do you have any suggestions on how to make this work or a better way of cycling unneeded cars off the layout?

Re: Change email preferences

#165197

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#165196

Greetings,
I like the new group location. However, I do not find the email receipt options either under preferences, nor account. Can you point me to them using groups.io?

Peace,
Mike G.

Re: Car Weights #operationspro

#165195

I'm not sure if you're confusing car capacity for car total gross weight.? Your chart shows the lowest capacity for a boxcar at 80 tons, most at 100 tons.? You need to add the car's empty weight to the car's capacity to get maximum gross weight, (which isn't quite true, but close enough, you should use load limit).? Anyway, I don't see the value of "accurate" load weights for model cars, as long as the gross weight provided by the program is reasonable, the train manifest will look plausible.

Dan

Re: Car Weights #operationspro

#165194

Thanks again Dan.? it appears that many of our cars do not have as much capacity as more recent cars. We'll have to override the default for all of these.

Thanks,
Larry

Re: Car Weights #operationspro

#165193

The program should correctly calculate the NMRA recommended weight for the? car based on length and scale. You can override the maximum "Tonnage" weight to anything you wish, it is only an estimate by the program.? BTW 60 tons total gross weight seems to be on the low side for a 50' car.? Modern 50' cars are in the 100 - 140 ton range for gross weight.

Dan

Re: Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

#165192

John,

On 29 Oct 2019, at 3:08 AM, John Cornell <dr.jc.cornell@...> wrote:

Hi Dave -- thanks for your input.  
(a) Yes, the connection is probably L, 
(b) Yes I have installed a completely new JMRI 4.12
(c) There were no "startup" files listed on the XP
(d) To start JMRI, I just launch PanelProAs others have pointed out, you failed to satisfactorily achieve the first step of my instructions:
"- Set up a single connection to the PR3 with the same Connection Prefix as your old MS100 connection on XP (it's probably "L")."

The error message below and the system log you posted prove that.
(e) When I open my panel, I get an error that the COM3 port is in use -- but that is the port it should be!There is where you should have stopped and got advice. The rest was largely wasting your time as you had an overriding problem.

Dave in Australia


(f) I have copied all the files from the User Files Location on the XP. Note that these were so old that they did NOT have insensitive path coding!
(g) I have edited the paths to the current locations.
(h) I have NO loco roster -- I am not using throttles. I don't see a roster on the XP computer
(i) JMRI tell me that the "default preferences are invalid" -- but all I want is the connection to the Digitrax DCS51. Do I need other options?
(j) Note that my control of the static decoders is via the track. Loconet exists ONLY between the PR3 and the DCS51.

Re: Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

#165191

John,

The log you provided is NOT actually connecting to a LocoNet connection.  If it was, you would see specific information about serial connection settings in the log file.  But they are not present, so the connection is NOT configured to communicate with a PR3!

You will need to "fix" that first and foremost.  I agree with the idea that you need to create a new "configuration" for the LocoBuffer-USB.  See Dave Sand's e-mail for his suggestions on how to go about that.

Be aware that Windows can be VERY unpredictable with respect to COM port assignments with some types of USB devices.  You _cannot assume_ that any certain COM port number will be assigned to a given device.  It is often necessary for Windows users to use the "Device Manager" feature to find out exactly which COM port was assigned to the device.  Failure to configure JMRI to use the "correct" COM port number will result in a non-functional JMRI configuration.

(Be aware that the JMRI 4.16 "production release" contains a bug which prevents proper configuration of some serial and USB connections, including LocoBuffer-USB connections.  JMRI test release 4.17.4 is the current test release - it does not have that bug.)

Regards,
Billybob

Re: Car Weights #operationspro

#165190

Thanks Dan,
That's exactly what I wanted to know.?

1) I assume that when entering weight for a car you would enter the fully loaded weight?
2) I usually enter the car's n-scale weight, so a 50ft boxcar is about 1.1 ounces, which OperationsPro then calculates to 85 tons, but the printed loaded weight for the car is 120,000 lbs, which is only 60 tons.? If I want the weights to be a bit more realistic, should I not use the 'calculate" and just enter the weights?

Thanks again,
Larry

Re: Car Weights #operationspro

#165189

Larry,

A train's manifest shows the weight of the entire train.? The program provides an estimated loaded weight based on car length.? You can override this and enter your own loaded weight for any car.? When a car is empty, the program uses 1/3 of the loaded weight as the car's empty weight.? A fully loaded train will require more HP, and the program should assign the appropriate number of engines as need based on train weight and grades.? You need to use the HPT feature for this to work.

Here's an example from operations of a loaded train:

Scheduled work at Hartford, departure time 00:00

Pull PRR? ?220244 HopCoal? ? ?31'? L<oad>? ?from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull UP? ? 499087 Boxcar? ? ? 50'? L<oad>? ?from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull C&O? ?218899 Gondola? ? ?52'? L<oad>? ?from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull LN? ? 97198? Boxcar? ? ? 50'? L<oad>? ?from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull FW&D? 8518? ?Boxcar? ? ? 40'? L<oad>? ?from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull SP? ? 120199 Boxcar? ? ? 40'? L<oad>? ?from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull D&H? ?4772? ?HopCoal? ? ?31'? L<oad>? ?from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull ATSF? 180236 HopCoal? ? ?31'? L<oad>? ?from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull ATSF? 180191 HopCoal? ? ?31'? L<oad>? ?from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Train departs Hartford Eastbound with 9 cars, 392 feet, 680 tons

And the same train where all of the cars are empty:

Scheduled work at Hartford, departure time 00:00

Pull PRR? ?220244 HopCoal? ? ?31'? E<mpty>? from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull UP? ? 499087 Boxcar? ? ? 50'? E<mpty>? from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull C&O? ?218899 Gondola? ? ?52'? E<mpty>? from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull LN? ? 97198? Boxcar? ? ? 50'? E<mpty>? from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull FW&D? 8518? ?Boxcar? ? ? 40'? E<mpty>? from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull SP? ? 120199 Boxcar? ? ? 40'? E<mpty>? from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull D&H? ?4772? ?HopCoal? ? ?31'? E<mpty>? from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull ATSF? 180236 HopCoal? ? ?31'? E<mpty>? from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Pull ATSF? 180191 HopCoal? ? ?31'? E<mpty>? from Staging? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Train departs Hartford Eastbound with 9 cars, 392 feet, 224 tons

Dan

Re: Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

[email protected]

#165188

I used to have that problem until I tried??

On Monday, October 28, 2019, 01:18:52 PM GMT-4, Dave Sand <ds@...> wrote:

John,

I recommend that you solve one problem at a time.

Stop JMRI if it is running.
Rename C:\Users\Lucas\JMRI to C:\Users\Lucus\JMRI-original or whatever makes sense to you.
Start PanelPro. ?You will be prompted to configure the LocoNet connection.
Save the connection settings and re-start.
Verify that Preferences >> Defaults shows everything set for the LocoNet connection, not Internal.
You will now have an empty My_JMRI_Railroad profile.
Send the contents of the JMRI system console.

Dave Sand

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----- Original message -----

From: John Cornell <dr.jc.cornell@...>

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

Date: Monday, October 28, 2019 11:47 AM

(e) OK, it seems I had two panels -- one now deleted. But still no joy. Here is part of the log file:

2019-10-28 17:35:08,614 apps.Apps???????????????????????????? INFO? - PanelPro version 4.12+Rb6a9bb1 starts under Java 1.8.0_221 on Windows 7 x86 v6.1 at Mon Oct 28 17:35:08 CET 2019 [main]

2019-10-28 17:35:18,302 apps.Apps???????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3e941fb0 [main]

2019-10-28 17:35:18,614 node.NodeIdentity???????????????????? INFO? - Using jmri-i7dpid3EbhOiaaWbE8LE61-3e941fb0 as the JMRI Node identity [AWT-EventQueue-0]

2019-10-28 17:35:18,879 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "LocoNet" [main]

2019-10-28 17:35:19,347 apps.PerformFileModel???????????????? INFO? - Loading file C:\Users\Lucas\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\UserPrefsProfileConfig.xml [main]

2019-10-28 17:35:22,873 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files\JMRI\ [main]

2019-10-28 17:35:22,873 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\Lucas\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\ [main]

2019-10-28 17:35:22,873 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\Lucas\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\ [main]

2019-10-28 17:35:22,873 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\Lucas\JMRI\ [main]

2019-10-28 17:35:22,873 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\Lucas\ [main]

2019-10-28 17:35:22,873 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Program Files\JMRI\jython\ [main]

2019-10-28 17:35:23,512 PanelPro.PanelPro???????????????????? INFO? - Main initialization done [main]

2019-10-28 17:35:39,518 managers.AbstractTurnoutManager?????? ERROR - Invalid system name for turnout: LT1 needed IT [AWT-EventQueue-0]

2019-10-28 17:35:39,518 configurexml.ErrorHandler???????????? ERROR - Unexpected error (Exception) while load(/C:/Users/Lucas/JMRI/My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri/John's%20Control%20Panel.xml) in adaptor of type jmri.jmrix.loconet.configurexml.LnTurnoutManagerXml Exception: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Invalid system name for turnout: LT1 needed IT

See http://jmri.org/help/en/package/jmri/configurexml/ErrorHandler.shtml for possibly more information. [AWT-EventQueue-0]

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Invalid system name for turnout: LT1 needed IT

Strangely, the turnouts are now called ITLT1, etc., but still no details, so loconet still not connecting to the DCS51. How to I force it to do so -- i.e. with what startup file?

Re: Moving from NCE system to DRS5000

[email protected]

#165187

What stationary decoders are controling the turnouts ??? via bus or via rails ?
The decoders must now talk to the DSR5000.

Marc

Anyone running JMRI in a Windows emulator on an Android tablet

#165186

Hi everyone,?

Just wondering if anyone is doing this.? Thoughts on requirements for the Android tablet and/or Windows emulator package would be appreciated.?

Thanks in advance,?

Chris from Canada

Re: Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

#165185

John,

I recommend that you solve one problem at a time.

Stop JMRI if it is running.
Rename C:\Users\Lucas\JMRI to C:\Users\Lucus\JMRI-original or whatever makes sense to you.
Start PanelPro. ?You will be prompted to configure the LocoNet connection.
Save the connection settings and re-start.
Verify that Preferences >> Defaults shows everything set for the LocoNet connection, not Internal.
You will now have an empty My_JMRI_Railroad profile.
Send the contents of the JMRI system console.