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I need help with accessing the programming track, which previously worked perfectly, but no longer.? For some reason the program will no longer correctly read values for the CVs when the loco is on the programming track.? It now reads 123 as the value for each and every CV.? Yet my NCE controller does correctly read the values.? Maybe I have something set up wrong?
I am open to suggestions.
I tried searching for a related topic, but found nothing.? But then I am not good with key words.
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How about a photo in the files section, let us know how to get to it.
John
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From: jimalbanowski <jimalbanowski@...>
Date: December 22, 2018 at 1:41 PM
John:
Only two cap symbols I'm familiar with are the non polarized -||- and
polarized -)|-...
There are other parts with odd symbols but look like ground or earth
don't think so what board and for what use?
Jim Abanowski
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John:
Only two cap symbols I'm familiar with are the non polarized -||- and polarized -)|-...
There are other parts with odd symbols but look like ground or earth don't think so what board and for what use?
Jim Abanowski
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Not JMRI related. You should take this discussion to the NCE forum. /g/NCE-DCC-- Peter Ulvestad JMRI Users Group Moderator - ( ) Tam Valley Group Moderator - ( ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - ( ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association -
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Does it look like two capitol "T" with the top cross pieces facing each other,
something like this -I I- ?
If so, that is a non-polarized capacitor.
If the symbol is -) I-, the curved side represents the foil on the outside of
the roll of foil, insulator, foil that makes the capacitor, this is generally
connected to "ground or the chassis", whatever represents the common connection
for the circuit.
Hope that does more to help than confuse.
John
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From: Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
Date: December 22, 2018 at 1:21 PM
??? Have this board, for the layout, that has a symbol I am not used to
for the caps.? Looks like a ground sign.? Can I assume this is (-)?
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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems,
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS
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??? Have this board, for the layout, that has a
symbol I am not used to for the caps.? Looks like a ground
sign.? Can I assume this is (-)?
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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems,
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS
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Well Dan, there is only one train, with 3 locomotives advanced consisted, with 21 cars, all flat running.?
It¡¯s rounds around the layout 2 or 3 times, then this happens. The train is cleaned.?
Yes they are all 3 sound locomotives, but the capacitor idea is throw out. The units are already running.?
Does it happen at any switch and it happens in random places
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On Dec 22, 2018, at 10:32, Dan Boudreau < daboudreau@...> wrote: I would look for a short on your layout.? Does the circuit breaker trip when the locos are crossing a switch?? Do your locos have sound?? If so, there's a current surge when charging the sound capacitors, so if one of the locos hits a dead spot and had to power up again that would be a surge.? Also do you have other locos on the layout with sound, they take power even if they aren't moving.
So look for shorts and dead spots, or just leave the setting at 3.5 amps.
Dan
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Re: Layout Editor, Simple LED
Richard,
I do what Ken suggested. I use the lights to display an icon on my CPE based on turnout position but I have no connection to LED's on my layout. I follow the same process you do except that I use lights instead of a signal. For my CPE icons, I use the colored track pieces in program directory/icons/track/USS as my light display. I treat those lights as track pieces and build my CPE layout with a combo of turnouts and the track(light) pieces. When you build the light icons, you will have the option to command them via several methods. I use the turnout position to select which track (light) piece to display. As a result, I have a layout in CPE which allows me show the "open" path thru all my turnouts so that I have a full visual view of the active paths on my layout.
I did this so I could use an iPad as my walk around control panel in lieu of LED's on my layout. I have no traditional physical control panels.
This is a tedious process but that is because I now have hundreds of active track (lights) pieces on my layout to get the full color effect. However, if you only use a traditional LED image for your lights, it would be much easier to build your panels.
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I would look for a short on your layout.? Does the circuit breaker trip when the locos are crossing a switch?? Do your locos have sound?? If so, there's a current surge when charging the sound capacitors, so if one of the locos hits a dead spot and had to power up again that would be a surge.? Also do you have other locos on the layout with sound, they take power even if they aren't moving.
So look for shorts and dead spots, or just leave the setting at 3.5 amps.
Dan
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The boosters should read PB105
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i have read the NCE EB1 manual and it says that the factory setting is 2.5 amps. When I am running a train, 3 locomotives in advance consist, it had a tendency to kick the breaking out. It did it in both power district the train travels on.?
Upon changing the breaker to position A for the 3.5 amp selection, there is no problems. You could say, maybe the consist is drawing more then 2.5 amps, but that would be highly unlikely, unless there was a problem with a locomotives?
But all 6 of my power districts have RRampMeters on them and I can see the demand level being use. The train is only using 1.10 amps, in Speed Step 40. Both power districts it tranverses, read the same Ampere used.?
My system setup consist of:
1- Digitraxx PS2012
2- NCE P515
1- NCE CS02 Command Station
4- NCE P104
1- NCE SB5
1- NCE DB3 for Auxillary Bus (BD20, Light-It etc)
6- RRampMeters
the lower level Mainline that this train uses, crosses across 2 of P105.?
It just seems strange, I had to change the jumper for more ampere, when am only seeing at best 1.2 used on the RRampmetters. The equipment is all being used on a layout that is in progress of being built, with only the 1st level nearing completion of track laying and DCC electrical done.?
Your pondering thoughts are welcomed about this would be appreciated.?
Thanks
Dave in PA
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Richard,
The issue I think is you picked a signal icon. From your description, I
think a normal lamp would be what you are asking for. Here you would have
the active/inactive as your red/green, then the unknown/inconsistent as the
yellow. Then you don't need any logic to drive it, it follows the turnout
(or feedback sensor) directly.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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I guess I need a triple, not a double.?
Any help would be apreciated.
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I have done it so:
Created signal headsby adding Double output, green red output.
system name SH504. egample?
green output use existing NT504
red output ? ? ?use existing. ? ? ?NT504
Create?
added to Layout
right click and edit signal head icon
change icon
program directory
icons
mediumschmatics
LEDs
then I dragged the red to Green, the green to Red.
This is where I think it should be possible to put in a yellow light as "inconsistent" or "unknown".
Updated panel
Edit Logic
Diverging leg of turnout
Red when Turnout NT 504 state is Closed.
Apply.
I want the LED's to ideally show what state the turnouts are in when I swithch on the Pi, or show them as yellow.
I hope this is clearer.
Thanks
Richard
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Layout Editor, Simple LED
Hi. I have reconfigured my Layout and made it as simple as possible. At each DCC controlled point I have placed an LED to show if the point is thrown or closed. The?concern is that?when I switch on the Pi and open up JMRI all the LED's are green, even if a point is thrown. When I did a similar thing in Panel it was a simple matter to have them all?show as yellow until I changed them.
It is hard to explain. Is there any way of attaching the file to aid in explaining? I have it on a usb.
Thanks,
Richard
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Dave,
I have just raised an issue to ask if a "DISCONNECT" option can be added to LE/PE to permit a 'Split into two" in a Block/Track Segment to be made a complete Break.
If splitting the track incorrectly is causing these ghost connections then perhaps there is a need to go down this path to try to avoid any errors in the first place?
Dave
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Bob: Reading through all this and looking at the downloads page again, I agree with tooons, the original poster when he says
just remove this entire line:? "If you've previously installed a working version of the program, you only need to download and install one of the files listed here."
To clarify that the download files are for either new installs or updates, it may be worthwhile saying just that after the opening sentences as follows:
If you've never installed a version of this program before, please read the installation guide (on the left) for your computer type and layout hardware. They will show you how to install the things that are needed before the program will run. These additional preliminary steps are one-time only and not necessary when updating. The JMRI download files listed here can be used for either a new installation or updating an existing installation.
I understand that I can submit this change through the github process which I will do. But since the submission process is new to me I will be learning on the job so give me a couple of days. Jan
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Dave,
That is a possibility when I first started out. I developed into the idea of splitting the edge blocks into a smaller edge blocks to make the physical break in the line in preparation for the EC connection but had some problems converting the Anchor Point to an EC and sometimes I had to delete the block and start again. This is your 'Split into three and delete the middle block to form the break'.
I seem to remember that originally, there was the ability to split the Block by breaking the Anchor Point and split the Anchor Point into two separate blocks not joined but awaiting to be joined. It was quite a while a go. Perhaps I am confusing JMRI with AnyRail?
It would appear that the key is how we go about splitting the track at the edge is what is causing/creating the ghost?
Dave
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On 21 Dec 2018, at 22:26, Dave Sand <ds@...> wrote:
Dave,
I have been doing some more testing and I was able to re-create the red edge connectors. I created a track segment between two anchor points. I then split the track twice which results in 3 track segments. I then deleted the middle track segment and changed the middle anchor points to edge connectors. One of them ends up yellow and the other one red.
Is it possible that you used this technique to modify your panels?
Dave Sand
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There is no difference between these. An install is an install, whether or not a previous version was installed. Bob On Dec 21, 2018, at 6:48 PM, Michael Piazza via Groups.Io <mpiazza2007@...> wrote:
Can the install script tell if the previous version has been installed? i.e. does it add anything to the Windows registry or have a specific install location under Linux or MacOS? If so then let the user decide what they want to install in the installation script by giving them two initial choices when the install script first runs: Default install (Basic Full installation default location) or Advanced Install (User decides what files are needed and where to install) The website could provide a list of changed files so an experienced user could only install whats needed. -- Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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There is no install script (or specific installation location) under Linux or macOS.
Allowing even an experienced user to pick and choose what to install/update/remove would almost certainly lead to a malfunctioning/nonfunctional JMRI installation (and a support nightmare).
With Linux or macOS you must do a non-merging folder replacement.
The Windows Install script takes care of merging into an existing installation folder. It has to be manually coded to remove obsolete files, a step the developer has sometimes missed and caused problems.
Under no circumstances should any user add or modify files in the program folder and expect the additions/modifications to be still there after a version upgrade.
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Dave in Australia
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On 22 Dec 2018, at 11:48 AM, Michael Piazza via Groups.Io <mpiazza2007@...> wrote:
Can the install script tell if the previous version has been installed? i.e. does it add anything to the Windows registry or have a specific install location under Linux or MacOS? If so then let the user decide what they want to install in the installation script by giving them two initial choices when the install script first runs: Default install (Basic Full installation default location) or Advanced Install (User decides what files are needed and where to install) The website could provide a list of changed files so an experienced user could only install whats needed.
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