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Harold,
I'm going to predict that when you see it lost connection on COM3, one of the LED's in the NCE-USB locked on. I'm hoping Dave sees this and can give you the right clues. I know he has a few steps to try to figure out the cause of the lockup. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
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Are google translations copyrighted?If so maybe you could get their permission to copy paste then paste into another book or software. You might not need an expert in another language just computer skills. The ?people who use it might have suggestions on how to say it better.?
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Mike Shockley On Tuesday, March 6, 2018, 8:13 AM, jmriusers@... wrote:
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Messages 1 Alternate languages for Engine Driver - Opinions and Volunteers Tue Mar?6,?2018 1:07?am (PST) . Posted by: flash62_au We are looking at the possibility of adding (non-English) translations to the Engine Driver app and would be interested to know: - Is this of interest to anyone? - Would anyone be prepared to volunteer to help with the translations? Obviously to volunteer you would need to be fluent in one or more other (non-English) languages, and at least moderately fluent in English. Which languages we do will be entirely based on the volunteers we get. Peter Akers (Brisbane Australia) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (1) . Top ^ 2a Re: How Engine driver resend command if not feedback from web server Tue Mar?6,?2018 1:33?am (PST) . Posted by: despx2003 Hi SteveT, >>>I assume you mean the WiThrottle server, as the JMRI Web Server isn't >>>involved in this communication. No Engine Driver communicates with a web server consisting of an ESP-1 and a pic18F26J50. >>>You retrieved this list of messages from the JMRI System Console (or the >>>session.log file). Is that correct? I>>>t would be helpful to see the entirety of the messages, including the >>>timestamps and such. Are there any intervening messages? No, I rely on the log I read in Engine Driver and debug on usb2com + Realterm port. ---------------------------------------------------------- ?????????? Where Egnine Driver save the log file in Android ?????????? ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>The "*10" is the heartbeat from the WiThrottle server to the client. Is that >>>always involved when you encounter this issue? A 3-second timed routine sends this message from the web server to the Engine Driver. >>>What command station are you using? DIY command station. >>>I don't recall if any of the command station adapters wait for an >>>acknowledgement of a function change such as this. This is the problem, if for example I send the command F1 ON, Engine Driver sends the command to the web server and waits for the answer from this but if the web server does not give the answer, Engine Driver discards the error without correcting it by resending last command. This behavior seems to me absurd and a source of problems in the control of a locomotive. From what I understand, between the web server and the Engine driver there is no real two-way dialogue with error correction. am i right or wrong? If I'm wrong, explain to me how can I enable error correction? >>>Losing a packet on the track bus is a normal occurrence, but this example >>>seems to indicate the WiThrottle server failed to respond to a function >>>change, which I've never seen with my Loconet setup. If you have never seen it does not mean that it can not happen ;-) That's why I do not understand why there is no error correction nor even a command that can allow the web server to request the last command sent by Engine Driver or alert it that it is busy. I have read and reread but I did not find any information about it and at I did not find a shred of documentation about the app. I hope someone can help me Best Regards, Despx [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (5) . Top ^ 2b Re: How Engine driver resend command if not feedback from web server Tue Mar?6,?2018 2:21?am (PST) . Posted by: "Randall Wood" randall_h_wood If the ESP-1 message is being sent to the web server, and not the WiThrottle server, then your problems would be explained purely by that misconfiguration on your end. Do note that for DCC throttle commands, there is no real two-way communication* between the throttle and the controlled locomotive; that¡¯s not built into the NMRA DCC protocol, meaning JMRI can¡¯t ensure there is two-way communication either. The web server *is not* used by Engine Driver to control locomotives, but is used to get roster entry pictures if present. JMRI apps (DecoderPro, PanelPro) contains both a web server and WiThrottle server. * RailCom and Digitrax Transponding provide some exceptions to this On Mar 6, 2018, at 04:33, despxkdcc@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (5) . Top ^ 2c Re: How Engine driver resend command if not feedback from web server Tue Mar?6,?2018 6:07?am (PST) . Posted by: mstevetodd Despx, So, you've written your own server code to replace the WiThrottle server and send/receive responses according to the WiThrottle protocol? Is that correct? There is currently no defined WiThrottle command for the server to request a resend of the "last" command, because the 3 servers I'm familiar with have no way to know that a command was missed. I'm not sure under what scenario a command would be received by the server, but not understood by the server. Can you provide an example? The normal situation I've seen is when the client's sending of a command fails to send. In that event, the client closes its socket connection and starts a retry loop. If the connection retry is successful, the client re-requests any acquired locos. To which the server responds by sending speed, direction and all function states. The client uses these to update the UI. I doubt the academics would call that "error correction" , but it works well in practice. Regarding documentation, JMRI and EngineDriver are open-source, hosted on github, so specific questions about the protocol and its implementation can be answered by reading the code for both sides. The EngineDriver client log is part of Android' s logcat feature. I access it using adb from my laptop. The "View Log" window in the client is simply a client-side display of this same logcat log. HTH, SteveT [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (5) . Top ^ 3a Re: Decoder Pro is exceptionally sluggish Tue Mar?6,?2018 1:55?am (PST) . Posted by: "Geoff Byman" geoffby Hello Dave, The start up time for the programme is now down to around 5-6 seconds - excellent. The decoders did state "massoth" on read from decoder and when the correct decoder was selected I did notice that it read "15227". As a new user, I'm starting to learn where and what all the errors are!! Yes, the preferences did read as internal for the service and ops programmers. I just tried altering the service and ops mode programmers in preferences/defaults to xpressnet but no difference except that when clicked on "read from decoder" the error message came up one time as? "communication error PC to command station - error 311" and when I tried it again came up with "requested operation not implemented in command station - error 303". I tried then by selecting the decoder - TCS-T1 - from the drop down and then clicked read and the address lines went red and the error message was the "311" followed immediately by the "303" message, flicked a couple of times between the two, then settled on 303 - couldn't make it's mind up? I have unplugged a replugged the cable into both the PC and the command station and tried another usb port - all of which didn't alter things. I know the cable is OK as it is the one I use on my scanner, which I have used successfully a few times since I've been having the problems with JMRI. I've rung ZTC and they say that they will have to investigate at their end. One thing I did notice every time I installed a fresh JMRI (and on the original installation too) was that the installation went all the way to "installed - JMRI uninstall" and then hung and the next buttons, etc were grayed out. I left it for over 15 mins but nothing changed so I then stopped the programme in task manager. Perhaps something is not installing correctly? Regards, GeoffB On Monday, 5 March 2018, 10:52:09 GMT, Dave Heap dgheap@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: ? Check Preferences->Defaults. You will find that one or more items are set to Internal. Explanation: "Massoth" is ManufacturerID 123. CVs all reading as 123, long address as 15227 are sure signs of something being set to Internal or Simulator instead of a real connection. These return 123 for everything so you realise they are faking. -- Dave in Australia The New England Convention 2018 On 5 Mar 2018, at 9:33 PM, Geoff Byman gbrails@... 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Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (18) . Top ^ 3b Re: Decoder Pro is exceptionally sluggish Tue Mar?6,?2018 1:59?am (PST) . Posted by: "Geoff Byman" geoffby Hi Ken, I have no pictures or anything on the roster as I am just starting with the programme and I still can't read the decoder so there's a problem somewhere that I'm missing. Since I've up dated to 4.11.3 the start up time is 5-6 seconds, which is excellent. It's the reading from decoders that is now the problem - see the reply I sent to Dave a moment ago. Regards, GeoffB On Monday, 5 March 2018, 13:05:17 GMT, 'Ken Cameron' [email protected] [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: ? Geoff B , Here is another way that DecoderPro (or the roster window) can be made very slow to start. Are you including pictures in the roster entry? How big are those pictures? When JMRI is building the roster list page, it has to convert all the pictures in the roster to the sizes it need for the display. I found a club that had odd problems that turned out to be 600 locos in the roster and about 500 of them had pictures. The problem was the pictures were about 5M images (nice camera). It was taking many minutes for that page to get built.. Problem is that any other windows of JMRI will be inactive while that is being build. While we are looking into ideas to handle this better, I suggest that the pictures be 100k size or less to avoid slow opening of the roster list. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslive steamers. org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr .org #yiv7561838812 #yiv7561838812 -- #yiv7561838812ygrp- mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font- family:Arial; margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv756183881 2 #yiv7561838812ygrp- mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv756183 8812 #yiv7561838812ygrp- mkp #yiv7561838812hd {color:#628c2a; font-size: 85%;font- weight:700; line-height: 122%;margin: 10px 0;}#yiv7561838812 #yiv7561838812ygrp- mkp #yiv7561838812ads {margin-bottom: 10px;}#yiv756183 8812 #yiv7561838812ygrp- mkp .yiv7561838812ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv7561838812 #yiv7561838812ygrp- mkp .yiv7561838812ad p {margin:0;}# yiv7561838812 #yiv7561838812ygrp- mkp .yiv7561838812ad a {color:#0000ff; text-decoration: none;}#yiv756183 8812 #yiv7561838812ygrp- sponsor #yiv7561838812ygrp- lc {font-family: Arial;}#yiv75618 38812 #yiv7561838812ygrp- sponsor #yiv7561838812ygrp- lc #yiv7561838812hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight: 700;font- size:78%; 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Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (18) . Top ^ 3c Re: Decoder Pro is exceptionally sluggish Tue Mar?6,?2018 2:41?am (PST) . Posted by: "Dave Heap" dgh_nemrc See below: On 6 Mar 2018, at 8:55 PM, Geoff Byman gbrails@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:That is a huge change from where you were. You have gone from taking to a dummy programmer to attempting to talk to a real DCC system programmer. Since you mention ZTC and XpressNet, I'll bow out of advising here as these are outside my area of experience. But others will be able to help. We've also got some information here: <> I tried then by selecting the decoder - TCS-T1 - from the drop down and then clicked read and the address lines went red and the error message was the "311" followed immediately by the "303" message, flicked a couple of times between the two, then settled on 303 - couldn't make it's mind up? I have unplugged a replugged the cable into both the PC and the command station and tried another usb port - all of which didn't alter things. I know the cable is OK as it is the one I use on my scanner, which I have used successfully a few times since I've been having the problems with JMRI.See above. You need to find a solution to the communication problems. One thing I did notice every time I installed a fresh JMRI (and on the original installation too) was that the installation went all the way to "installed - JMRI uninstall" and then hung and the next buttons, etc were grayed out. I left it for over 15 mins but nothing changed so I then stopped the programme in task manager. Perhaps something is not installing correct ly?That is a cause for concern. I'm guessing an antivirus protection program is preventing the final steps. Disable protection and try again. Dave in Australia [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (18) . Top ^ 4.1 Re: Fw: Re: [jmriusers] Re: Can¡¯t access tables Tue Mar?6,?2018 4:10?am (PST) . Posted by: "Harold Thompson" haroldthompson157 This is driviing me nuts. This morning I deleted all my sensors from the Sensors Table and recreated them as NCE sensors with the laptop was connected to the layout and running in NCE mode. (I am still running JMRI 4.11.3).? I then ran the shuttle script having set sensor 1 to "Active" by clicking on the icon in the LE Panel.? The train started up and moved off but then (as hitherto) ignored all subsequent sensors, even thought they were made active as the train passed over them (as evidenced by the red LED light attached to each sensor).? However, the Active status was not reflected in the Sensors Table.? Having then quitted the program and switched off the layout while I read up the notes, I started again, intending to try a different script.? I switched on the layout and opened JMRI.? Having got the panel displayed but before running the shuttle, i triggered one of the sensors by passing my hand over it and JMRI then lost the COM3 port connection.? System Console shows an error message for every sensor and turnout - but that i guess is because the connection is lost.? If I try to change Preferences, COM3 does not appear as an option. Can anyone guide me as to a remedy? Thanks,.Harold. On Sunday, March 4, 2018, 11:30:49 PM GMT, jjcostupatsf33 jjcostupatsf33@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: ? Thanks again Peter Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Sunday, March 4, 2018, 1:57 PM, ulvestad@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: ? The link was in my message, here it is again: ---In jmriusers@..., <jjcostupatsf33@...> wrote : Thanks Peter is the nightly build on the JMRI web site ? On Sunday, March 4, 2018, 12:42 PM, ulvestad@... mailto:ulvestad@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@... mailto:jmriusers@...> wrote: Not being able to change sensor state has been corrected. Download the latest nightly build or wait for 4.11.4 to be released. 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Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (32) . Top ^ 5a Re: Turnouts not working from Engine Driver app Tue Mar?6,?2018 5:25?am (PST) . Posted by: mstevetodd Kenny, Please email me your panel xml file, and I'll verify you have the system names correct. --SteveT Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (18) . Top ^ 5b Re: Turnouts not working from Engine Driver app Tue Mar?6,?2018 6:13?am (PST) . Posted by: "kennyhunt990" kennyhunt990@... I will do that. It's a club layout and it may be a couple of weeks before I can get back over there. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message --------From: "mstevetodd@... [jmriusers]" <jmriusers@...> Date: 3/6/18 7:25 AM (GMT-06:00) To: jmriusers@... Subject: [jmriusers] Re: Turnouts not working from Engine Driver app ? Kenny, Please email me your panel xml file, and I'll verify you have the system names correct. --SteveT [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (18) . Top ^ 6 Section errors - sensor direction Tue Mar?6,?2018 5:28?am (PST) . Posted by: a0829ff066ea4302c20ed240f0dc6929 Hi all, I just cannot work out what I am doing wrong with sections. I have working layout editor map with sensors, blocks, turnouts all functioning correctly.. I have sections each only containing one block and set entry points correctly (I think) I have set SSL turnout and block signals. Sections are validated, Created transits. But when I use dispatcher and add a train I get the error ¡°Found errors when checking setting direction sensors in signal logic for this transit.¡± I go and adjust sections and I get a whole different number of error messages. Or is the problem with the signals? I hope someone can steer me in the right direction Thankyou Paul [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (1) . Top ^ 7 How can I identify which TSU-1000 Tsunami is installed in my loco? Tue Mar?6,?2018 5:29?am (PST) . Posted by: rodwslc When I try to identify the decoder with DecoderPro, all I get is the following: "Multiple possible Decoders detected - Manually select for the highlighted Decoders or Family" , with a highlighted list of over 180 SoundTraxx decoders! So how do I confirm which TSU-1000 decoder it is? Is it listed in a specific CV? If so, which one and will it just be a CV code number and not the actual SoundTraxx&# 39;s part number? Any help would be appreciated. Rod Souza [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (1) . Top ^ 8a Loksound Decoder Pro Options Tue Mar?6,?2018 5:30?am (PST) . Posted by: dick_mckibben Decoder Pro has identified my new decoder as a Loksound OEM select decoder. It does not give me the option to change prime mover sounds. I have also been unable to change the prime mover sound by various changes I have made to CV 48. Does this mean that I have only one prime mover sound with this decoder? Dick McKibben Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (2) . Top ^ 8b Re: Loksound Decoder Pro Options Tue Mar?6,?2018 5:45?am (PST) . Posted by: "jonie41 jonie41" ve3kkq The OEM decoder comes with a basic sound file installed for testing. You need to select the sound file particular to your loco. After that you need a LokProgrammer to install the file. You'll have contact the dealer and inquire if he is able to load the sound file. If your retailer did not offer to install the file, he most likely does not have a LokProgrammer. In the files section in the LokSound group, there is a list of folks with a LokProgrammer that are willing to help. You may live close to a listee. Good luck. John ---------- Original Message ----------Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (2) . Top ^ 9a Decoder Pro Startup Tue Mar?6,?2018 5:32?am (PST) . Posted by: "William Darnaby" wdarnaby@... I have downloaded JMRI to a Windows 7 laptop. The laptop also has Java 8. The LocoBuffer-USB is connected and the downloaded drivers work, or they appear to be, because I get both green lights on the LocoBuffer box. When I open Decoder Pro the start up wizard opens and I complete the required information such as Digitrax/LocoBuffer . However, when I hit finish all I get is the little blue Windows spinning donut and nothing happens.period. What am I missing? Thanks, Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (18) . 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Re: Cannot get Turnout Table to open
Damin,
Help->System Console, that will show the 'other' messages for the startup and if something goes wrong. Not everything listed there is bad, a lot is just information. But 98% of the time if something goes wrong, there will be a big message that means something to us developers. It may provide enough clues to a user. Once you edited the turnout table, you need to save the data. Best way is Panels->Save Panels, this will let you name the file and save it. Your next step would be telling JMRI to load that file every time you start. Here you would go Edit->Preferences->Start Up, use the 'Add, Open File' to tell it the name of the file you just created. Save/restart JMRI. You should now see all the user names in the turnout table. I suggest that every now and then as you edit and update this to change the name of the file. I usually add a number or date. This leaves a trail of changes for you to follow. But when you change the name during a save, you have to change the name in the Start Up too. To edit the line in Start Up, double click the line. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
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Re: WiThrottle viewing turnouts
David K,
Do the turnouts work from the JMRI turnout table? Also via the Tool->Turnout Control, see if you can control that way too. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
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Re: How can I identify which TSU-1000 Tsunami is installed in my loco?
As built, there is some information in the USER INFO CVs, about 105. These are on the BASIC tab in DecoderPro.
These may identify the individual sounds. However, they are a place for the user to store data and may have been overwritten. A call to George or one of his minions at SoundTraxx when you have the ability to read the decoder MAY answer your question. You might even READ SHEET on that page, take a screen shot of it and eMail it to support@... for an answer. I know of no published ¡°decoder ring¡± to translate those values into a type or part number. -- On Mar 5, 2018, at 8:46 PM, rod@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: When I try to identify the decoder with DecoderPro, all I get is the following: "Multiple possible Decoders detected - Manually select for the highlighted Decoders or Family", with a highlighted list of over 180 SoundTraxx decoders! So how do I confirm which TSU-1000 decoder it is? Is it listed in a specific CV? If so, which one and will it just be a CV code number and not the actual SoundTraxx's part number? Any help would be appreciated. Rod Souza [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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