I agree the the USA is the largest market, but when ICOM launched the Pro3, it is available in Europe several months before here in the USA
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Date: 2005/02/18 Fri PM 02:25:32 EST
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I agree the the USA is the largest market, but when ICOM launched the Pro3, it is available in Europe several months before here in the USA
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Date: 2005/02/18 Fri PM 02:25:32 EST
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Hi Mike,
In Europe, the old measures often linger on, but have been rationalised to
the metric system. In Germany, one can still buy "ein Pfund" (one pound) of
potatoes at the greengrocer's. One pound = precisely 0.5 kg. In Bavaria, one
orders "ein Mass Bier" (a measure of beer) at the pub. The "Mass" is a
1-litre mug.
Back to the IC-7000; its weight should be about the same as the IC-706MkIIG
- around 2.5 kg (5.5 lb, US or Imperial.)
Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
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-----Original Message----- From: Mike Perryman [mailto:jmperrym@...] Sent: 18 February 2005 11:15 To: ic7000@... Subject: RE: [ic7000] Re: Announced in Dayton? Just a trivial note.. I grew up in West Texas, and my cousin was the County Agricultural Extension Agent... he did, and still does measure crops in rods... Interesting, no? 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -----Original Message----- From: Alan NV8A (ex. AB2OS) [mailto:nv8a@...] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:00 PM To: ic7000@... Subject: Re: [ic7000] Re: Announced in Dayton? Arrgh!! You're right. And I am a firm believer in the metric system, even though living in the USA. My Dutch-born mother-in-law says that if she could learn the US system at age 40+, everyone else can learn the metric system if they start in school. Alan NV8A (who grew up in the UK, learning about such arcane measures as chains and "rods, poles or perches") On 02/18/05 01:51 pm Adam Farson tossed the following ingredients into the ever-growing pot of cybersoup: That's 20mm (approx. 0.8"). 20cm is about 8".
(I grew up with the metric system. "Ye kynges ffoote" joined the
stable much later in my life.) 20cm (less than an inch) shorter (front to back??), according to the orig.
French article. Are there any size specs on this radio yet? I wonder if it's going to
be larger, smaller or about the same size as the 706 series.
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Check again on that airliner thing. Boeing has announced quite a few
sales of its new planes and cited some specifications that basically
undercut the AirBus cost per passenger mile.
{^_-}
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----- Original Message ----- From: "PA3DUV" <pa3duv@...>
If it's a hoax it's a good one.
Concerning the market: I doubt if France is a key market for Icom. To me
it looks that the USA is the biggest market for HAM radio gear so one should expect the announcement and release in the USA. But since Airbus took over the market for large jetliners from Boeing the Japanese might focus on Chirac and his friends...
Dick Knol
PA3DUV
An old Arabic adage:
The enemy of my neighbor is my friend
That's why the Dutch are in love with the USA ;-)))
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From: Eduardo Affonso
This could well be a good clue as I dont't think it happens first in
France. Laws are too tight in terms of certification and thus making
things appear later in this territory.
I guess only time will tell, but I vote this is not a hoax.
73 - Eduardo
--- In ic7000@..., "kitdalton_page"
<kitdalton_page@y...> wrote:
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> What have the past ICOM patterns been for releasing new radios over
> the years? Is ICOM France usually the fist place news is heard. Or
is
> this uncharacteristic? I was wondering if this would be a clue as
to
> if this is a Hoax or not.
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That's pronbaly because rods can easily be converted to acres; they get paid bt the acre, eh what?
Dave, W1DEC
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If it's a hoax it's a good one.
Concerning the market: I doubt if France is a key market for Icom. To me it looks that the USA is the biggest market for HAM radio gear so one should expect the announcement and release in the USA. But since Airbus took over the market for large jetliners from Boeing the Japanese might focus on Chirac and his friends...
Dick Knol
PA3DUV
An old Arabic adage:
The enemy of my neighbor is my friend
That's why the Dutch are in love with the USA ;-)))
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From: Eduardo Affonso
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:13 PM
Subject: [ic7000] Re: Past ICOM patterns?
This could well be a good clue as I dont't think it happens first in
France. Laws are too tight in terms of certification and thus making
things appear later in this territory.
I guess only time will tell, but I vote this is not a hoax.
73 - Eduardo
--- In ic7000@..., "kitdalton_page"
<kitdalton_page@y...> wrote:
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> What have the past ICOM patterns been for releasing new radios over
> the years? Is ICOM France usually the fist place news is heard. Or
is
> this uncharacteristic? I was wondering if this would be a clue as
to
> if this is a Hoax or not.
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We can't ALL start out perfect.
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Hi Alan,
That's 20mm (approx. 0.8"). 20cm is about 8".
(I grew up with the metric system. "Ye kynges ffoote" joined the stable
much later in my life.)
Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
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From: Alan NV8A (ex. AB2OS) [mailto:nv8a@...]
20cm (less than an inch) shorter (front to back??), according to the orig.
French article.
Alan NV8A
On 02/18/05 06:27 am George Matyaszek tossed the following ingredients into the ever-growing pot of cybersoup:
Are there any size specs on this radio yet? I wonder if it's going to
be larger, smaller or about the same size as the 706 series.
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Just a trivial note.. I grew up in West Texas, and my cousin was the County
Agricultural Extension Agent... he did, and still does measure crops in
rods... Interesting, no?
73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us
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-----Original Message----- From: Alan NV8A (ex. AB2OS) [mailto:nv8a@...] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:00 PM To: ic7000@... Subject: Re: [ic7000] Re: Announced in Dayton? Arrgh!! You're right. And I am a firm believer in the metric system, even though living in the USA. My Dutch-born mother-in-law says that if she could learn the US system at age 40+, everyone else can learn the metric system if they start in school. Alan NV8A (who grew up in the UK, learning about such arcane measures as chains and "rods, poles or perches") On 02/18/05 01:51 pm Adam Farson tossed the following ingredients into the ever-growing pot of cybersoup: That's 20mm (approx. 0.8"). 20cm is about 8".
(I grew up with the metric system. "Ye kynges ffoote" joined the stable much later in my life.) 20cm (less than an inch) shorter (front to back??), according to the orig.
French article. Are there any size specs on this radio yet? I wonder if it's going to
be larger, smaller or about the same size as the 706 series.
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This could well be a good clue as I dont't think it happens first in France. Laws are too tight in terms of certification and thus making things appear later in this territory. I guess only time will tell, but I vote this is not a hoax. 73 - Eduardo --- In ic7000@..., "kitdalton_page" <kitdalton_page@y...> wrote:
What have the past ICOM patterns been for releasing new radios over
the years? Is ICOM France usually the fist place news is heard. Or
is this uncharacteristic? I was wondering if this would be a clue as to if this is a Hoax or not.
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You must have had a happy childhood Adam.
We still use metric on this side of the pond;-))
Cheers, Dick Knol
PA3DUV
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From: Adam Farson
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 7:51 PM
Subject: RE: [ic7000] Re: Announced in Dayton?
Hi Alan,
That's 20mm (approx. 0.8"). 20cm is about 8".
(I grew up with the metric system. "Ye kynges ffoote" joined the stable much
later in my life.)
Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan NV8A (ex. AB2OS) [mailto:nv8a@...]
Sent: 18 February 2005 10:19
To: ic7000@...
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Re: Announced in Dayton?
20cm (less than an inch) shorter (front to back??), according to the orig.
French article.
Alan NV8A
On 02/18/05 06:27 am George Matyaszek tossed the following ingredients into
the ever-growing pot of cybersoup:
>
> Are there any size specs on this radio yet? I wonder if it's going to
> be larger, smaller or about the same size as the 706 series.
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Arrgh!! You're right. And I am a firm believer in the metric system, even though living in the USA. My Dutch-born mother-in-law says that if she could learn the US system at age 40+, everyone else can learn the metric system if they start in school.
Alan NV8A
(who grew up in the UK, learning about such arcane measures as chains and "rods, poles or perches")
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That's 20mm (approx. 0.8"). 20cm is about 8".
(I grew up with the metric system. "Ye kynges ffoote" joined the stable much
later in my life.) 20cm (less than an inch) shorter (front to back??), according to the orig.
French article. Are there any size specs on this radio yet? I wonder if it's going to be larger, smaller or about the same size as the 706 series.
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Hi Alan,
That's 20mm (approx. 0.8"). 20cm is about 8".
(I grew up with the metric system. "Ye kynges ffoote" joined the stable much
later in my life.)
Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
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-----Original Message----- From: Alan NV8A (ex. AB2OS) [mailto:nv8a@...] Sent: 18 February 2005 10:19 To: ic7000@... Subject: Re: [ic7000] Re: Announced in Dayton? 20cm (less than an inch) shorter (front to back??), according to the orig. French article. Alan NV8A On 02/18/05 06:27 am George Matyaszek tossed the following ingredients into the ever-growing pot of cybersoup:
Are there any size specs on this radio yet? I wonder if it's going to
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20cm (less than an inch) shorter (front to back??), according to the orig. French article.
Alan NV8A
On 02/18/05 06:27 am George Matyaszek tossed the following ingredients into the ever-growing pot of cybersoup:
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Are there any size specs on this radio yet? I wonder if it's going to be larger,
smaller or about the
same size as the 706 series.
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What have the past ICOM patterns been for releasing new radios over
the years? Is ICOM France usually the fist place news is heard. Or is
this uncharacteristic? I was wondering if this would be a clue as to
if this is a Hoax or not.
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Are there any size specs on this radio yet? I wonder if it's going to be larger,
smaller or about the
same size as the 706 series.
George
KB9YUR
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I remember hearing from my brother (a manager at Radio Shack at the
time) about 15 years ago Radio Shack was planning the release of a new
piece of equipment (a Ham Rig or a computer, I can't remember).
They started one of these vapor-ware rumor-mills and monitored the
discussion. When it seemed as though everybody was "sure" what
features it should have, the top execs said......"OK, build it like
that..."
They sold a bunch of them! 'Cause they gave people what they wanted.
Could it be that Icom is dong the same.....?
Ken - NM9P
--- In ic7000@..., "Keith LaBorde - K4KAL" <k4kal@a...> wrote:
I'm not saying this is a hoax...
But didn't Icom already use the IC-7000 name for a receiver already?
Keith, K4KAL
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To: ic7000@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:23 PM
Subject: [ic7000] Announced in Dayton?
I guess this rig will be announced in Dayton assuming it's not an adobe
Photoshop hoax? Any speculation to share out there?
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I spoke to Icom France (Country from where we first saw the ad) and they confirmed that they expect to have more info shortly and that the radio would see its days before the end of this semester. By experience with the french market, it always takes longer than expected but for the facts I have seen, I do believe there will actually be one available this year. Eduardo - F/PU2VGA --- In ic7000@..., Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote: Hi Ken,
Only time will tell. If the worst case comes to pass and the product does a no-show, I am sure there will be no hard feelings on our part!
Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
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Sent: 17 February 2005 19:53
To: ic7000@...
Subject: [ic7000] Re: Announced in Dayton?
I remember hearing from my brother (a manager at Radio Shack at the
time) about 15 years ago Radio Shack was planning the release of a new piece of equipment (a Ham Rig or a computer, I can't remember).
They started one of these vapor-ware rumor-mills and monitored the
discussion. When it seemed as though everybody was "sure" what features it should have, the top execs said......"OK, build it like that..."
They sold a bunch of them! 'Cause they gave people what they wanted.
Could it be that Icom is dong the same.....?
Ken - NM9P
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Hi Ken,
Only time will tell. If the worst case comes to pass and the product does a
no-show, I am sure there will be no hard feelings on our part!
Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
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From: nm9p [mailto:nm9p@...]
Sent: 17 February 2005 19:53
To: ic7000@...
Subject: [ic7000] Re: Announced in Dayton?
I remember hearing from my brother (a manager at Radio Shack at the
time) about 15 years ago Radio Shack was planning the release of a new piece
of equipment (a Ham Rig or a computer, I can't remember).
They started one of these vapor-ware rumor-mills and monitored the
discussion. When it seemed as though everybody was "sure" what features it
should have, the top execs said......"OK, build it like that..."
They sold a bunch of them! 'Cause they gave people what they wanted.
Could it be that Icom is dong the same.....?
Ken - NM9P
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That would be a good marketing idea, but I don't really tnink so as it seems to me (IMHO) that guessing or knowing what we users expect is not that difficult. However the difficult part is to materialize the wishes into real radio with real consumer's small pocket availability, thus selling good quantities and assuring net margins at the manufacturer's expectations levels. 73 - PU2VGA --- In ic7000@..., "nm9p" <nm9p@y...> wrote:
I remember hearing from my brother (a manager at Radio Shack at the
time) about 15 years ago Radio Shack was planning the release of a
new piece of equipment (a Ham Rig or a computer, I can't remember).
They started one of these vapor-ware rumor-mills and monitored the
discussion. When it seemed as though everybody was "sure" what
features it should have, the top execs said......"OK, build it like
that..."
They sold a bunch of them! 'Cause they gave people what they wanted.
Could it be that Icom is dong the same.....?
Ken - NM9P
--- In ic7000@..., "Keith LaBorde - K4KAL"
<k4kal@a...> wrote: I'm not saying this is a hoax...
But didn't Icom already use the IC-7000 name for a receiver
already?
Keith, K4KAL
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To: ic7000@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:23 PM
Subject: [ic7000] Announced in Dayton?
I guess this rig will be announced in Dayton assuming it's not
an adobe
Photoshop hoax? Any speculation to share out there?
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I remember hearing from my brother (a manager at Radio Shack at the time) about 15 years ago Radio Shack was planning the release of a new piece of equipment (a Ham Rig or a computer, I can't remember). They started one of these vapor-ware rumor-mills and monitored the discussion. When it seemed as though everybody was "sure" what features it should have, the top execs said......"OK, build it like that..." They sold a bunch of them! 'Cause they gave people what they wanted. Could it be that Icom is dong the same.....? Ken - NM9P --- In ic7000@..., "Keith LaBorde - K4KAL" <k4kal@a...> wrote: I'm not saying this is a hoax...
But didn't Icom already use the IC-7000 name for a receiver already?
Keith, K4KAL
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I guess this rig will be announced in Dayton assuming it's not an adobe Photoshop hoax? Any speculation to share out there?
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Well, it is not in production yet so no one has seen it. But with the spec
set to HF 100w in almost the same package as the 706¡A/T is not possible....
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Hello all,
I just received my Icom 756 Pro III last week and absolutely love it.
I am looking for a small backup Icom with an A/T. Does the IC7000
have such a thing ? I am visually impaired and use ACC 2 and ACC 1
to use comoputer control and also to run my amp. How do you subscribe
to this reflector ? Thansk es 73
Kind regards,
Marty.
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