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Icom to ATAS-100 automatic controller project #all

 

hello,

For those interrested I am starting on a project to automaticaly control the YEASU ATAS-100/120 HF antenna using an ICOM radio like the IC7000.

It will be most likely Arduino based, using CI-V to snif freq, S-Meter and SWR info and the D4 antenna controller to control the radio.

I am looking at multiple variation from very small package with just a couple LED indiccators to 2X16 and 4X40 LCD to TFT Color LCD with touch screen.

for older ICOM radios missing some of the needed CI-V commands (pre IC-706mkIIG), I will had an SWR bridge to adress this.

still a long way to go but look here for updates.

73

Richard VE2DX


Re: Repeater access

 

Sorry for the late reply now that you seem to have the repeater keying up.? But it might help you in the future.?

Jim?




On Friday, December 6, 2019, 2:51:29 PM CST, Jim Szalajeski <jimszal@...> wrote:


Three questions:

?Have you put a watt meter in line with the radio and measured the TX output power and antenna SWR?

Second question, have you tried using another radio and see if you can hit the repeaters your trying to hit?

Third question, have you tried to listen to you radio with a portable or another radio to see if you can hear voice from your radio under test and the CTCSS tone required to open the repeater your trying to hit.? This will require you to listen to the repeater input.?

These are the simple tests that will point you in the right direction if the radio is having a problem.?

Jim?


On Friday, December 6, 2019, 1:09:28 PM CST, Linda C <lculberson@...> wrote:


hmm. ?Stupid question, since I¡¯m sure you¡¯ve tried this - but are you able to reach other repeaters? ?When I was having a similar problem none of my repeated access worked, and I ended up putting all the repeaters in memory using CHIRP.

Linda, AG5HJ

On Dec 6, 2019, at 2:06 AM, Adrian McGonigle <adrian@...> wrote:

As I said in the original post, offset is correct -600 and CTCSS tone is correct for my local repeater 110.9, have tried various filter widths in case it was something there but no go

Adrian G0KOM


Re: Repeater access

 

Three questions:

?Have you put a watt meter in line with the radio and measured the TX output power and antenna SWR?

Second question, have you tried using another radio and see if you can hit the repeaters your trying to hit?

Third question, have you tried to listen to you radio with a portable or another radio to see if you can hear voice from your radio under test and the CTCSS tone required to open the repeater your trying to hit.? This will require you to listen to the repeater input.?

These are the simple tests that will point you in the right direction if the radio is having a problem.?

Jim?


On Friday, December 6, 2019, 1:09:28 PM CST, Linda C <lculberson@...> wrote:


hmm. ?Stupid question, since I¡¯m sure you¡¯ve tried this - but are you able to reach other repeaters? ?When I was having a similar problem none of my repeated access worked, and I ended up putting all the repeaters in memory using CHIRP.

Linda, AG5HJ

On Dec 6, 2019, at 2:06 AM, Adrian McGonigle <adrian@...> wrote:

As I said in the original post, offset is correct -600 and CTCSS tone is correct for my local repeater 110.9, have tried various filter widths in case it was something there but no go

Adrian G0KOM


Re: Repeater access

Linda C
 

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Great news! Glad you got that settled!?

On Dec 6, 2019, at 5:08 AM, Adrian McGonigle <adrian@...> wrote:

Hmm looks like the problem wasnt me after all, the local repeater has been having issues, were all good now

Adrian G0KOM


Re: Repeater access

Linda C
 

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hmm. ?Stupid question, since I¡¯m sure you¡¯ve tried this - but are you able to reach other repeaters? ?When I was having a similar problem none of my repeated access worked, and I ended up putting all the repeaters in memory using CHIRP.

Linda, AG5HJ

On Dec 6, 2019, at 2:06 AM, Adrian McGonigle <adrian@...> wrote:

As I said in the original post, offset is correct -600 and CTCSS tone is correct for my local repeater 110.9, have tried various filter widths in case it was something there but no go

Adrian G0KOM


Re: Repeater access

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Can you access another repeator using tones? If not then maybe the tone output is too low and needs increased. Service manual stuff. GL

On 12/6/2019 3:06 AM, Adrian McGonigle wrote:
As I said in the original post, offset is correct -600 and CTCSS tone is correct for my local repeater 110.9, have tried various filter widths in case it was something there but no go

Adrian G0KOM
-- 
Rick, W8ZT
WVDXA


Re: Repeater access

 

Hmm looks like the problem wasnt me after all, the local repeater has been having issues, were all good now

Adrian G0KOM


Re: Repeater access

 

As I said in the original post, offset is correct -600 and CTCSS tone is correct for my local repeater 110.9, have tried various filter widths in case it was something there but no go

Adrian G0KOM


Re: Repeater access

 

You also have to have the frequency offset correct + - 600 kc for most
What repeater are you trying to access so that we can look up the settings
Perhaps use the Repeater Book app on your phone to check.
You should have a tone set to the correct frequency and the offset as well
If yo push tome and hold it it should let you set the correct frequency, often 100 HZ


Re: Repeater access

 

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Adrian,

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Make sure that you are in FM-TONE mode not just FM.

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Kurt KD6LZV

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adrian McGonigle
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 11:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ic7000] Repeater access

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Not that I use repeaters much but decided to try my IC-7000 on the local repeater tonight, cannot seem to access it,? offset is set correctly, ctcss tone is set correctly but I just cant access it, the repeater is close to me so I can access it even with a handheld but nogo with the 7000, no idea whats going on.

Adrian G0KOM


Re: Repeater access

 

I cant seem to see that option anywhere, I would have presumed it would be default but not sure

Adrian


Re: Repeater access

 

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Do you have CTCSS on as ENC/DEC, i.e. on both input and output, not just on input only??


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Adrian McGonigle <adrian@...>
Sent: 05 December 2019 19:59
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Repeater access
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And ive changed to FM-Tone mode just in case anybody asks

Adrian


Re: Repeater access

 

And ive changed to FM-Tone mode just in case anybody asks

Adrian


Repeater access

 

Not that I use repeaters much but decided to try my IC-7000 on the local repeater tonight, cannot seem to access it,? offset is set correctly, ctcss tone is set correctly but I just cant access it, the repeater is close to me so I can access it even with a handheld but nogo with the 7000, no idea whats going on.

Adrian G0KOM


Re: LDG AT-7000

 

Hello Adrian,

As far as the LDG AT-7000 goes, I can tell you first hand that it does work, and work well mobile. My wife and I have gone cross-country in the US nine times, averaging about 10,000 miles a trip (up & back) using the tuner with my IC-7000. I used an "off-brand" (Shark Mini, as I remember) hamsticks (NOT the original creators of the Hamstick brand). I tried antennas from 80 thru 6 meters, along with a separate 2M/440MHz antenna on a different mount. I used 2 different mag mounts, one, a MFJ triple 5" triangular mag mount, and one a 3" Comtelco commercial mag mount. Everything works great from 40-6M, 2M & 440MHz.

I originally, I started with a single 5" mag mount for the Shark brand hamsticks, and learned the hard way that that wasn't the way to go. I had an 80M antenna on it and was "side drafted" by a 53 foot semi-truck and trailer that may have been speeding, whatever, but it literally blew my 80M antenna/single mag mount over and right off the roof of my mini-van, and it was dangling down on the rear hatch, the antenna's stinger (whip) getting its tip ground down on the concrete surface of the road. As it turned out, I could never get the 80M antenna to resonate properly anyway, and still haven't. I guess you can't win them all. So, 40M is the lowest HF frequency I operate on mobile. I subsequently replaced the single 5" mag mount with the triple 5" mag mount from Universal Radio. I have since redone the cabling, so if that were to ever happen again, which is not likely, won't go too far due to even shorter coax cable lengths. I also heartily recommend using a stainless steel quick disconnect to attach any hamstick type antenna to your mount.

Now as for the AT-7000 itself. I ran #8 red/black wire directly from the battery with very heavy duty fuses used typically for mobile sound installations, directly to the radio for maximum power output. All I have to do is push the Tuner/Call button on the IC-7000, and it will immediately seek to find the best/lowest VSWR that it can obtain with the antenna in use. I have found it to work very reliably as long you use good radio installation practices, especially when it comes to really good, tight connections and really solid grounds. Poor ground connections most often (I think) lead to faulty or troublesome mobile operation. Very often, what you may think is a "good" ground, may not be what you think. In vehicles, ground connections are NOT always created equal, so use due diligence when it comes to grounds. Poor power output and/or RF inside your vehicle will let you know right away.

Be sure that you tune your mobile antenna as close to resonance (lowest VSWR) as possible, while it is mounted on the base you will use on the vehicle with an antenna analyzer, (such as a Bird 43 or MFJ 259/269 or a RigXpert analyzer, or equivalent, etc), but NOT using the AT-7000. You need to "start" from a position of knowledge, that is, that the antenna has already been tuned properly to begin with. Tuning it off the vehicle is NOT the same as tuning it ON the vehicle, just the way you are going to use it. I used several different analyzers to just compare and confirm the antenna tuning readings in my vehicle right AT the MALE coax connector that will connect to the AT-7000 FEMALE antenna connector ON the AT-7000 itself. In other words, measure only at the end of the coax that comes from the antenna ONLY, period. (And of course, this "tuning" I've been talking about is actually trimming the length of the stinger (whip) that is adjustable at the top of the hamstick (assuming that is what you plan to use). Then you will know when you use the AT-7000 in the circuit, you should get good results.

Also, be aware that after tuning for best VSWR on the IC-7000 using the Tuner/Call button, you will NOT be able to see VSWR. To display the VSWR
after a tune, select the VSWR indicator scale from the radio¡¯s menu, and transmit a carrier (AM, FM, CW or RTTY). The VSWR will then be displayed on the VSWR scale.

Another great "plus" for using the AT-7000 is the remote-able control head. That is what I am using, and it works great. Also, for a microphone cable extension, I used a FLAT CAT 6 Ethernet cable, one end plugged int the IC-7000 body located under the driver's seat, and the other end right into the underside of the mic which is located in the glove compartment where the remote control head is now mounted.

I know I may have given more information than just that on the AT-7000 tuner, but I've found the more information I can get all of the subject, the happier I am.

If I can answer any other questions, feel free to ask. If I know the answer, I will be happy to share. I hope this has been of some help.

PS I still use my mobile just as described to this day, and it still works great.

I've added some photo's but don't know if this group will allow them or strip them.

73, Alan, AB6C


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Re: Looking for parts

Rick Robinson
 

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I am going to assume you have tried ICOM parts dept,. So if you can remove the part if necessary and look for manufactures part number or something. then search for it. You might get lucky. Good luck.

On 12/3/2019 4:00 AM, Richy Russo via Groups.Io wrote:

hi fellow 7000 owners, anyone have a junker 7000 or parts for a 7000 lurking around? I need the connector board. It¡¯s the gold plated male pin set that is mounted on the body of the 7000 and mates with the head unit. I¡¯ll take a damaged one, a good one, parts pieces. Please email me if you have one or even a radio that¡¯s not working or for parts.?

Thanks Richy N2ZD?

ss409ss at
aol dot com!

or call/text me at 17327798620?
-- 
Rick, W8ZT
WVDXA


Re: Looking for parts

 

Call Matt Adrian at SARTS1 in Michigan.??

Jackie,
on behalf of
Her Imperial Majesty,
Mystic, Kitty


On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 2:00 AM Richy Russo via Groups.Io <ss409ss=[email protected]> wrote:

hi fellow 7000 owners, anyone have a junker 7000 or parts for a 7000 lurking around? I need the connector board. It¡¯s the gold plated male pin set that is mounted on the body of the 7000 and mates with the head unit. I¡¯ll take a damaged one, a good one, parts pieces. Please email me if you have one or even a radio that¡¯s not working or for parts.?

Thanks Richy N2ZD?

ss409ss at
aol dot com!

or call/text me at 17327798620?


Looking for parts

 


hi fellow 7000 owners, anyone have a junker 7000 or parts for a 7000 lurking around? I need the connector board. It¡¯s the gold plated male pin set that is mounted on the body of the 7000 and mates with the head unit. I¡¯ll take a damaged one, a good one, parts pieces. Please email me if you have one or even a radio that¡¯s not working or for parts.?

Thanks Richy N2ZD?

ss409ss at
aol dot com!

or call/text me at 17327798620?


Re: LDG AT-7000

 

The AT7000 works well and is very similar to the IT100. As long as it works everything is OK, but it the CPU fails there are no replacement parts available to repair it.


Re: LDG AT-7000

 

The AT-7000 works well but it is restricted to 30 watts for all digital modes. de W4WNT.?