Re: [IC-7000] More Smoke than RF
Agreed, Milo! Sometimes I feel my old vacum tube powered radio is just like a lit 5W lamp, compared to the 7k. ? I can’t say I use that much my 7k, but, I can feel it very hot after 30 minutes at 50% power 2m band. ? Planning to do the? cooling fan mod in the nearly future. ? ? -------------------------------------
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Enviado:??2? de ?janeiro? de ?2014 ?12?:?28
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Assunto:?Re: [IC-7000] More Smoke than RF
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Hi Bill,
Just curious how long (over all, not that session) you have been using it, and if you were running full power, or close to it.? It has always been my opinion, not shared by all I might add, that the physical package size of the 7000 is just too small for that much power to work 100% reliably.? Many 7000's will work just fine for years. But if there were any undetected marginal components, they would be prone to failure under the heat stress.? I have not tried to investigate my contention, but I would bet that the full size desk top Icoms have not experienced this level of failures.? Granted, it's more likely you hear about the failures and not the thousands of non-failures.? Nevertheless, I have always been an advocate of running the 7000 at reduced power.? The difference on the receiving end between 50 watts and 100 watts is negligible. But the difference to the rig is considerable.? Just my 2 cents.
73, Milo KF5GCF
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 12:59 PM, <william.lifsey@...> wrote:
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My -7000 just produced a wonderful *pop* sound halfway into a Dit-Dit, and then billowed smoke.? Great way to kick off 2014 and work the ARRL Centennial QSO Party. This will be the third time it makes a trip to ICOM in less than a year.? I had heard early model IC-7000s had a tendency to smoke, but thought that was cured.? Has anyone else had experience like this?
73,
Bill AB3TM
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Re: [IC-7000] More Smoke than RF
Hi Bill,
Just curious how long (over all, not that session) you have been using it, and if you were running full power, or close to it.? It has always been my opinion, not shared by all I might add, that the physical package size of the 7000 is just too small for that much power to work 100% reliably.? Many 7000's will work just fine for years. But if there were any undetected marginal components, they would be prone to failure under the heat stress.? I have not tried to investigate my contention, but I would bet that the full size desk top Icoms have not experienced this level of failures.? Granted, it's more likely you hear about the failures and not the thousands of non-failures.? Nevertheless, I have always been an advocate of running the 7000 at reduced power.? The difference on the receiving end between 50 watts and 100 watts is negligible. But the difference to the rig is considerable.? Just my 2 cents.
73, Milo KF5GCF
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 12:59 PM, <william.lifsey@...> wrote:
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My -7000 just produced a wonderful *pop* sound halfway into a Dit-Dit, and then billowed smoke.? Great way to kick off 2014 and work the ARRL Centennial QSO Party. This will be the third time it makes a trip to ICOM in less than a year.? I had heard early model IC-7000s had a tendency to smoke, but thought that was cured.? Has anyone else had experience like this?
73,
Bill AB3TM
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Which circuit board has the problem? ?Do you know more details about what was damaged? ?How did the static discharge happen?
Steve, W3AHL ---In ic7000@..., <iz0abd@...> wrote: Hello,
my IC-7000 died because a ES discharge. The guy of the service said me to not repair it but I'd like to try by myself.
So, does anybody know where to find spare parts of IC-7000? I mean not the single components, but the electronic boards.
Thanks.
Best 73 de IZ0ABD Francesco
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RES: [IC-7000] Spare parts
?or ? contact Michael Hudson ?[michael@...]? he take care about parts there ? But in my experience if you need more than one board the price will be so high and very close to the equipment price. The main board is about US$ 380 in America. Maybe more than ?360 in Europe… ? 73 ? Ivan PY1YB ? De: ic7000@... [mailto:ic7000@...] Em nome de iz0abd@...
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 2 de janeiro de 2014 07:43
Para: ic7000@...
Assunto: [IC-7000] Spare parts ? ? Hello,
my IC-7000 died because a ES discharge. The guy of the service said me to not repair it but I'd like to try by myself.
So, does anybody know where to find spare parts of IC-7000? I mean not the single components, but the electronic boards.
Thanks.
Best 73 de IZ0ABD Francesco
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Hello,
my IC-7000 died because a ES discharge. The guy of the service said me to not repair it but I'd like to try by myself.
So, does anybody know where to find spare parts of IC-7000? I mean not the single components, but the electronic boards.
Thanks.
Best 73 de IZ0ABD Francesco
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Re: [IC-7000] More Smoke than RF
With three failures in a year, I would look if there is something about your installation that could be a problem. ?The common problems in my experience are: - Intermittent shorts or opens in feed lines. ?These can be hard to find. ?Sometimes it's easier to just replace the connectors and carefully inspect the feed lines for damage along the entire route. ?Look for pinch points, rubbing, squirrel damages, signs of lightning damage, etc.
- Solder bumps on the end of a PL-259 center pin that spread the mating female contact, resulting in intermittent contact and arcing.
- No or poor lightning protection. ?This is the #1 cause of shorted FET's in the front end, which was your first failure!
- Poor grounding system. ?Most common problem is not connecting the radio's RF/lightning grounding rods to the electrical service panel ground. ?This is almost as bad as having no RF ground.
- Defective manual or autotuner. ?High SWR results in excessive peak voltages inside tuner, creating arc tracks on the circuit board, which get worse with time. ?Average SWR at the radio looks OK, but the arcing gets back to the radio, eventually causing problems. ?Don't exceed the max SWR the tuner is rated for, allowing for some safety margin. ?Take the tuner apart and look for discolored components or thin grayish or black carbon tracks between pads or traces. ?Then, get a reasonably resonant antenna.
My two 7K's a combined 12 years of operating time, with the only failure being a weak UHF PA FET, due to me plugging in the wrong antenna when I reinstalled the radio in my truck.
Steve, W3AHL ---In ic7000@..., <william.lifsey@...> wrote: I previously had the HF pre-amp FETs short out.? ICOM was good about fixing that quickly, as well as replacing a "noisy fan" (? - never noticed it).? Second time I sent it in for what I was considering to be odd behavior, based on months of using it.? This time, the response was slow and I was rudely told it was "normal" behavior.? I hope they don't consider my new issue to be "normal behavior"!
I picked up an IC-718 when my -7000 went in for its first repair.? It gets me back on the air, but sure does make my ears bleed.? It is also not wanting to play nice with my RigBlaster Advantage, either.? Ah, the adventures of amateur radio!
HNY
Bill AB3TM
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Re: [IC-7000] More Smoke than RF
I previously had the HF pre-amp FETs short out.? ICOM was good about fixing that quickly, as well as replacing a "noisy fan" (? - never noticed it).? Second time I sent it in for what I was considering to be odd behavior, based on months of using it.? This time, the response was slow and I was rudely told it was "normal" behavior.? I hope they don't consider my new issue to be "normal behavior"!
I picked up an IC-718 when my -7000 went in for its first repair.? It gets me back on the air, but sure does make my ears bleed.? It is also not wanting to play nice with my RigBlaster Advantage, either.? Ah, the adventures of amateur radio!
HNY
Bill AB3TM
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Re: [IC-7000] More Smoke than RF
Welcome to the club :-) ?When it happened to me, I sent it off to the local ICOM distributor, who repaired it under warranty and promptly returned it to me with no hassles. It is disappointing that the radio has this weakness, but the after-sales support has been good. Lucky when it happened, I had just finished building a CW rig for 40m, so I was still able to get on air while waiting for the repair. 73, Matt VK2RQ
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On 02/01/2014, at 5:59 AM, < william.lifsey@...> wrote:
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My -7000 just produced a wonderful *pop* sound halfway into a Dit-Dit, and then billowed smoke.? Great way to kick off 2014 and work the ARRL Centennial QSO Party. This will be the third time it makes a trip to ICOM in less than a year.? I had heard early model IC-7000s had a tendency to smoke, but thought that was cured.? Has anyone else had experience like this?
73,
Bill AB3TM
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Re: [IC-7000] DSC for IC 7000
The Winlink system has the ability to receive and forward position reports into the APRS system. Just set up a Winlink account and load RMS Express software. The software uses a sound device mode called Winmor to contact RMS server stations worldwide. ?The software can use a PC connected GPS for the position data. You will need CAT control of the 7000 as well a sound interface like a Signalink USB.
Perry K4PWO
Sent from my Galaxy S?III
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-------- Original message -------- From: cpcohen1945@... Date:01/01/2014 4:12 PM (GMT-06:00) To: ic7000@... Subject: Re: [IC-7000] DSC for IC 7000
There are several problems:
There's nobody who will _receive_ an HF DSC call on the ham bands -- it doesn't exist as a "standard protocol", and there are no standard "emergency frequencies" on the ham bands. ? So first thing out of the gate, you'll have to "open up" the IC-7000 for "all frequency" transmit. ? And you'd have to feed the GPS into a computer, and have the computer format the message correctly, and control the radio to send it out. ?As far as I know, the software to do that hasn't been written, yet.
. . . This is _not_ a good emergency tactic!
Too many things have to be "just right" for it to work.
My suggestions, for what they're worth:
If you;re doing coastal sailing, use a VHF radio (connected to the GPS) to send the DSC message. ?It'll have a short range, but the US Coast Guard and Canadian Coast Guard _do_ monitor the appropriate channel
If you're doing offshore sailing, get a proper 416 MHz EPIRB with built-in GPS. ?That will get you connected to an international satellite-based search-and-rescue network when you press the big red button. ?The EPIRB has its own battery, and will transmit for days, floating in the water. ?You can't say that about an IC-M802.
There are some times when there's no good alternative to "spend the money!". ?This is one of them.
An IC-M802 is an expensive piece of gear. ?I used an IC-706 (modified for all-frequency transmit) for several years of cruising along the Pacific Coast, and it worked fine. ?But you _do_ have to know what you're doing. ? An IC-M802 is closer to an "appliance" than any ham rig.
. ? ? ? ? ?Charles / VA7CPC / "Right Galah", Morgan 36 Out Island sloop
PS -- the "Spot" satellite beacon might be worth looking at. ?Some skiers (in BC, I think) were just rescued using it. ?I don't know if it works offshore; satellite coverage might be limited to land and near-shore.
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Re: [IC-7000] DSC for IC 7000
Just to throw my 2 cents in about the IC-M802. The radio is a boat anchor. Then you add the speaker and the control head, both are plastic and neither of which weigh very much. However, this was designed to be installed on a boat or ship. They run roughly $1900. Unless you have to have HF and could get by with VHF, I would suggest getting the IC-M412 marine radio or getting the 416 Mhz EPIRB with your ham radio.
I know about the IC-M802, because I bought one a couple of weeks ago to use for voice HF in the Civil Air Patrol. Once I receive my Micom ALE radio, which will be my base station, the 802 is going into my van, along side of my 7000. Icom designed the 802 to go with their auto-tuners. Although, I'm looking into using it with an LDG AT200PRO II. I have yet to find a control cable to go from the radio to the tuner in order to utilize the tune button. The 802 uses a different connector than the ham radios.
...Please forgive me for any possible typos. :-)
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Re: [IC-7000] DSC for IC 7000
There are several problems:
There's nobody who will _receive_ an HF DSC call on the ham bands -- it doesn't exist as a "standard protocol", and there are no standard "emergency frequencies" on the ham bands. ? So first thing out of the gate, you'll have to "open up" the IC-7000 for "all frequency" transmit. ? And you'd have to feed the GPS into a computer, and have the computer format the message correctly, and control the radio to send it out. ?As far as I know, the software to do that hasn't been written, yet.
. . . This is _not_ a good emergency tactic!
Too many things have to be "just right" for it to work.
My suggestions, for what they're worth:
If you;re doing coastal sailing, use a VHF radio (connected to the GPS) to send the DSC message. ?It'll have a short range, but the US Coast Guard and Canadian Coast Guard _do_ monitor the appropriate channel
If you're doing offshore sailing, get a proper 416 MHz EPIRB with built-in GPS. ?That will get you connected to an international satellite-based search-and-rescue network when you press the big red button. ?The EPIRB has its own battery, and will transmit for days, floating in the water. ?You can't say that about an IC-M802.
There are some times when there's no good alternative to "spend the money!". ?This is one of them.
An IC-M802 is an expensive piece of gear. ?I used an IC-706 (modified for all-frequency transmit) for several years of cruising along the Pacific Coast, and it worked fine. ?But you _do_ have to know what you're doing. ? An IC-M802 is closer to an "appliance" than any ham rig.
. ? ? ? ? ?Charles / VA7CPC / "Right Galah", Morgan 36 Out Island sloop
PS -- the "Spot" satellite beacon might be worth looking at. ?Some skiers (in BC, I think) were just rescued using it. ?I don't know if it works offshore; satellite coverage might be limited to land and near-shore.
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My -7000 just produced a wonderful *pop* sound halfway into a Dit-Dit, and then billowed smoke.? Great way to kick off 2014 and work the ARRL Centennial QSO Party. This will be the third time it makes a trip to ICOM in less than a year.? I had heard early model IC-7000s had a tendency to smoke, but thought that was cured.? Has anyone else had experience like this?
73,
Bill AB3TM
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Re: [IC-7000] WTB IC-7000 separation cable, mount.
i always use ebay only ever had one problem left it three weeks then claimed the moner back no problems
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Re: [IC-7000] WTB IC-7000 separation cable, mount.
I have had great luck on eBay.? I know several others that have had similar success.? I guess we are 'lucky?'??
When I shop, I go to eBay FIRST, then Amazon SECOND.? My wife does the same, but favors AMAZON, due to the selection and reviews there.
73 and good luck.
---In ic7000@..., <robert.farey@...> wrote: Hi so you so seem to be the exception as most get ripped off. ????????????????????????????????????????????? robert G6LLP
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Re: [IC-7000] DSC for IC 7000
I can see that this old dog has a lot to learn from the smart dogs, thanks WB5EAT
From: Keith D. Brady
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] DSC for IC 7000
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Since the IC-M412, which is?a marine VHF?and a marine SSB was mentioned, why not just get the IC-M802, which is a marine SSB?
From: "w3ahl@..."
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] DSC for IC 7000
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APRS is NOT DSC (Digital Selective Calling). ?The IC-7000 doesn't do the DSC protocol. ?You need a marine radio, such as an IC-M412.
http://www.icomamerica.com/en/products/marine/mountedvhf/m412/default.aspx
Steve, W3AHL ---In ic7000@..., wrote:
You can do 300baud Packet APRS on 30m. And have the GPS sending your location.?
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Hello all,
Don't hate me for a crazy question. Is there any way to connect my GPS to my ham radio and then use it as a emergency DSC call on my sailboat? A marine SSB will have a DSC emergency button that is pushed and the lat/long of the vessel is automatically sent. The DSC sets off a tone on other radios and turns of their squelch so that the message can be heard as well as sending a text message of the lat/long. I suspect this is impossible, but I was wondering if there is a way.
Rene Steinhauer
s/v Witchdoctor II
KJ6BYK
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Re: [IC-7000] DSC for IC 7000
Since the IC-M412, which is?a marine VHF?and a marine SSB was mentioned, why not just get the IC-M802, which is a marine SSB?
From: "w3ahl@..."
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] DSC for IC 7000
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APRS is NOT DSC (Digital Selective Calling). ?The IC-7000 doesn't do the DSC protocol. ?You need a marine radio, such as an IC-M412.
http://www.icomamerica.com/en/products/marine/mountedvhf/m412/default.aspx
Steve, W3AHL ---In ic7000@..., wrote: You can do 300baud Packet APRS on 30m. And have the GPS sending your location.?
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Hello all,
Don't hate me for a crazy question. Is there any way to connect my GPS to my ham radio and then use it as a emergency DSC call on my sailboat? A marine SSB will have a DSC emergency button that is pushed and the lat/long of the vessel is automatically sent. The DSC sets off a tone on other radios and turns of their squelch so that the message can be heard as well as sending a text message of the lat/long. I suspect this is impossible, but I was wondering if there is a way.
Rene Steinhauer
s/v Witchdoctor II
KJ6BYK
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Re: [IC-7000] DSC for IC 7000
APRS is NOT DSC (Digital Selective Calling). ?The IC-7000 doesn't do the DSC protocol. ?You need a marine radio, such as an IC-M412.
http://www.icomamerica.com/en/products/marine/mountedvhf/m412/default.aspx
Steve, W3AHL ---In ic7000@..., <khufford@...> wrote: You can do 300baud Packet APRS on 30m. And have the GPS sending your location.?
On Dec 31, 2013, at 12:15, "Rene S" <medicrene@...> wrote:
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Hello all,
Don't hate me for a crazy question. Is there any way to connect my GPS to my ham radio and then use it as a emergency DSC call on my sailboat? A marine SSB will have a DSC emergency button that is pushed and the lat/long of the vessel is automatically sent. The DSC sets off a tone on other radios and turns of their squelch so that the message can be heard as well as sending a text message of the lat/long. I suspect this is impossible, but I was wondering if there is a way.
Rene Steinhauer
s/v Witchdoctor II
KJ6BYK
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Re: [IC-7000] DSC for IC 7000
You can do 300baud Packet APRS on 30m. And have the GPS sending your location.?
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On Dec 31, 2013, at 12:15, "Rene S" < medicrene@...> wrote:
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Hello all,
Don't hate me for a crazy question. Is there any way to connect my GPS to my ham radio and then use it as a emergency DSC call on my sailboat? A marine SSB will have a DSC emergency button that is pushed and the lat/long of the vessel is automatically sent. The DSC sets off a tone on other radios and turns of their squelch so that the message can be heard as well as sending a text message of the lat/long. I suspect this is impossible, but I was wondering if there is a way.
Rene Steinhauer
s/v Witchdoctor II
KJ6BYK
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Re: [IC-7000] WTB IC-7000 separation cable, mount.
Never an issue here with ebay since 2003 ? We are pretty much protected Brian Mackey KC1MAC Hams don't let hams get stuck on 2 meter repeaters! From: BT Yahoo!?2013 <robert.farey@...> Reply-To: <ic7000@...> Date: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 at 3:40 AM To: <ic7000@...> Subject: Re: [IC-7000] WTB IC-7000 separation cable, mount. Hi so you so seem to be the exception as most get ripped off. robert G6LLP From: Alex Netherton <anetherton@...> To: ic7000@... Sent: Tuesday, 31 December 2013, 2:57 Subject: Re: [IC-7000] WTB IC-7000 separation cable, mount. I have been doing business with Ebay, and just watch the dealer feedback and refuse to do business outside Ebay (never been asked). Ebay actually has buyer protection; I got an antenna from a merchant, it was a dual band, refused to tune, emailed the merchant, he gave me a refund, and didn't even ask for the antenna back. Also, got a TS-520S, my first and only Kenwood, it tuned 80 watts on most bands, replaced the driver, got 100, sold it for $100.00 more than I paid. Got an MFJ-993B off Ebay, works fine, will tune a barbed wire fence. Also a MFJ-931 to make a ground where there isn't. The 931 had a dirty meter, but I replaced that, and it works fine. Of course, if everybody was alike, this would be a dull world! Enjoy your 7K! 73 de KC4BO Alex Netherton <> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Bill Boyer <daweasel@...> wrote:
Found my price list at work -- as of September of this year:
The whole kit is RMK-7000 F1 -- $87 at HRO. This is the radio bracket, head
bracket and an 11-foot cable.
The cheapest prices for the individual pieces is $35 for the MB-62 radio
bracket, $22 for the MB-105 head bracket, and $40 for the OPC-1443 11-foot
cable. The cheapest price on the OPC-1444 16-foot cable is $77.
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On Dec 30, 2013, at 0:36, James Ashworth <wb4hxf@...> wrote:
Got mine at Ham Radio Outlet.
On Sunday, December 29, 2013 6:50 PM, "k3hx@..." <k3hx@...>
wrote:
Looking to purchase a IC-7000 separation cable.
Also interested in the bracket that holds the control unit.
I do not do business with eBay.
72,
Tim
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Re: [IC-7000] WTB IC-7000 separation cable, mount.
I do business on eBay occasionally and have had only one incident where I had to get eBay customer service involved.
I purchased an EF Johnson radio which was suppose to be new, with a specific firmware version on it. I had taken it to my local EF Johnson service center, who confirmed that the radio was old enough that EF Johnson was no longer supporting that particular radio and there was no way it was what had been advertised. Therefore, it could not be programmed or used without the specific, proprietary software, which was not available from the manufacturer or the eBay company I purchased the radio from. So, I contacted the seller advising them of this. Since I was pushing my 14 day return period at this point, due to a holiday and the scheduling at the service center, I also advised that I was shipping the radio back. It was refused upon delivery. I contacted customer service at this point and within 2 days of having my statement, I received an email from them indicating that they would be refunding my money and had included a shipping label to ship the radio back to the seller. My full, refund was received the next day by PayPal.
My point is, eBay is not as bad as it once was, as far as getting ripped off.
...Please forgive me for any possible typos. :-)
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Hi so you so seem to be the exception as most get ripped off. ????????????????????????????????????????????? robert G6LLP
From: Alex Netherton <anetherton@...>
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Tuesday, 31 December 2013, 2:57
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] WTB IC-7000 separation cable, mount.
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I have been doing business with Ebay, and just watch the dealer feedback and refuse to do business outside Ebay (never been asked). Ebay actually has buyer protection; I got an antenna from a merchant, it was a dual band, refused to tune, emailed the merchant, he gave me a refund, and didn't even ask for the antenna back.
Also, got a TS-520S, my first and only Kenwood, it tuned 80 watts on most bands, replaced the driver, got 100, sold it for $100.00 more than I paid. Got an MFJ-993B off Ebay, works fine, will tune a barbed wire fence. Also a MFJ-931 to make a ground where there isn't. The 931 had a dirty meter, but I replaced that, and it works fine.
Of course, if everybody was alike, this would be a dull? world! Enjoy your 7K! 73 de KC4BO
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