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Re: Price check for the IC-7000
Ladies and gentlemen,
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Please...let's keep it "reasonably" serious. Best 73, Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ Owner, Yahoo! ic7000 Group -----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Howard S. White [mailto:drpaper@...] Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 13:14 To: ic7000@... Subject: Re: [ic7000] Re: Price check for the IC-7000 How about a built in DVD Player so it can double as a babysitter ----- Original Message ----- From: Marty To: ic7000@... Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 11:12 AM Subject: RE: [ic7000] Re: Price check for the IC-7000 ...and maybe video out for base use. Now that would be nice! Marty -----Original Message----- From: MKM .... OT: I have been thinking about the digital audio in/out of the 7800....maybe, just maybe the 7000 will have it as well. That will be sweet for PSK/RTTY operation. I doubt it though because of cost. Speculating, of course. -best Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ic7000-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links Scanned by WinProxy |
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Re: Price check for the IC-7000
Dr. Howard S. White
How about a built in DVD Player so it can double as a babysitter
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From: Marty To: ic7000@... Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 11:12 AM Subject: RE: [ic7000] Re: Price check for the IC-7000 ...and maybe video out for base use. Now that would be nice! Marty -----Original Message----- From: MKM .... OT: I have been thinking about the digital audio in/out of the 7800....maybe, just maybe the 7000 will have it as well. That will be sweet for PSK/RTTY operation. I doubt it though because of cost. Speculating, of course. -best Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ic7000-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?
Dr. Howard S. White
Marcus:
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The only information anyone has on the IC-7000 is what you have already read in the French Magazine..PERIOD... Currently there are no other rumors! __________________________________________________________ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist" "Krazy Yankee Six Loves America" ----- Original Message -----
From: Marcus To: ic7000@... Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:05 AM Subject: [ic7000] 70mhz available on the 7000? Hi all, Can anyone tell if 70mhz will be available on the 7000 (706-pro)? 73's Marcus pa2db Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ic7000-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: Price check for the IC-7000
Marty
...and maybe video out for base use. Now that would be nice!
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From: MKM .... OT: I have been thinking about the digital audio in/out of the 7800....maybe, just maybe the 7000 will have it as well. That will be sweet for PSK/RTTY operation. I doubt it though because of cost. Speculating, of course. -best |
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Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?
MKM
No, no-one can tell at this moment.
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On Feb 27, 2005, at 1:05 PM, Marcus wrote:
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Re: Price check for the IC-7000
MKM
I think it will have a good CW performance. Icom DSP filters are very
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good indeed. They will use the same code and algorithms from the 7800/pro3. In fact this is what dsp is all about, consistency across the board with good software QC. Once you have a piece of code working right, you just implement it on the other radios just like object oriented programming. OT: I have been thinking about the digital audio in/out of the 7800....maybe, just maybe the 7000 will have it as well. That will be sweet for PSK/RTTY operation. I doubt it though because of cost. Speculating, of course. -best On Feb 27, 2005, at 1:03 PM, Ya`akov N. Miles wrote:
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Re: Price check for the IC-7000
Ya`akov N. Miles
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Hi Paul,[snip] Your comments about DSP vs. analogue/crystal-filter architecture areYeah, tell me about it. Here I pay on the average of $150 for each crystal filter that goes into my Icom IC-706mkiiG. I would like to install more, but the IC-706mkiiG will accept a maximum of two filters. Then I am into the uncharted waters of replacing FL-272 filter 2.4 kHz with FL-223 filter 1.9 kHz, as I want the narrow SSB filter more than I want the nice-sounding SSB filter which is soldered in as default :( If the IC-7000 does check in at around USD$1000 with no filters to buy, then it would be a Good Thing (IMHO) I hope that Icom does not compromise on CW performance, even though that mode has been deprecated recently. I do all my HF operating in Morse Code. |
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Re: Price check for the IC-7000
Hi Paul,
Considering that all the Japanese manufacturers are now outsourcing PCB fab, die-cast chassis injection moulding and other subassembly manufacture to lower-labour-cost areas in Asia, Icom should be able to hold the price down to the $1K level. Your comments about DSP vs. analogue/crystal-filter architecture are absolutely correct. Economics, as well as performance and capability, are driving the shift to 100% DSP implementations. "In technology, there are only two degrees of freedom: forward and down. There is no backwards." Cheers for now, 73, Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ Scanned by WinProxy |
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Re: Price check for the IC-7000
MKM
Universal Radio has a great web site and they have a great setup to see
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the related options for a given item..that is why I gave their example. it was easy on me. Of course they are not the cheapest and we all know that. All is relative, take whatever discount you wish and apply it to the listed price and you will get the other store prices. For the statement if you can directly compare a DSP radio to an analog one: well that is what we have as a competition now, don't we? Don't worry, people will directly compare it to those existing radios regardless of engineering merits of the old analog ones. BTW, I realize that people are not comfortable about pricing since different folks with different means. Some wish for a below $1K price (unrealistic), some expect a premium for this radio (listen to the 3840 group and they agree for a 1600-1700 price) as well. I think I heard w6obb confirming that it will be high dollar radio through his connections at HRO. He is a well connected man:) -best On Feb 27, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Paul Manuel wrote:
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Re: Price check for the IC-7000
Paul Manuel
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Well, looking at Universal-radio.com here are the current prices for thefilter:$1,245 FT857ND with HSC unit and one CW + one SSB filter:$1,140I respectfully submit that you are looking at the wrong store. Although I have bought many items from Universal because they are nice folks and are the nearest ham store to my location, they are never the cheapest. I don't think you can directly compare the cost of a radio with hardware filtering to a rig that uses DSP. The hardware filters are more expensive--one set of DSP chips and it has it all, and probably no alignment necessary on the filtering circuit. I am not making a prediction of what the 7000 WILL cost--Maybe ICOM will shoot itself in the foot and charge $1800 for it. But I think the radio SHOULD cost about $1000, and will soon after it is introduced, if not initially. 73, Paul K4PDM __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. |
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Re: Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC
Jerry Keller - K3BZ
May we know your name and callsign milady?
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73, Jerry K3BZ ----- Original Message -----
From: "jdow" <jdow@...> To: <ic7000@...> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 3:41 AM Subject: Re: [ic7000] Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC From: "Tom" <tgleeman@...>Tom, I don't think Howard has a death wish that big. An offer of some |
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Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
Jerry Keller - K3BZ
When the first IC-7000 (or 700 or whatever) is actually delivered, let me know 8^)
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73, Jerry K3BZ ----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Howard S. White" <drpaper@...> To: <ic7000@...> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
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Re: Howie on the Hill.......with a crane..........OFF TOPIC
Tom
Hi Howard and the Group,
Howard wrote: The irony is that the ones with the biggest damage are on safari in SouthI that case, Howard, I would try to find out when your neighbor is just arriving and be there. I would stand a cubit's distance and greet your neighbor. Shake his hand and thank your neighbor for your new ham radio coverage and the use of the crane which you will borrow to put up your antenna. Closeness counts at a time like this. Tom San Diego, CA KE6YNH, 73 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 |
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Re: Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC
Dr. Howard S. White
Joanne:
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We all know you are a lady and I would take you home to meet my "mother" You are right about no insurance coverage...I read my policy and was shocked that I was not covered for earth movements...even with earthquake insurance..from what my neigbours are saying, the insurance companies do not even return their calls... Fortunately so far. I am on the right side of the street and now we have a better ocean view.... Nearest major fault is at the bottom of this mountain...less than a mile from here...California uses valleys caused by the earthquake fault lines to build the Interstates and bridges.... its too dangerous to put buildings on them... ..... In spite of all that land around here goes for about $4 - 6 MM per acre....Go figure.. Why build.. the ocean view is great, especially if the houses in front of you slide down the mountain.. the weather is fabulous 350 -360 days a year (sunny 72F - 22C every day) and disasterous for about 5 -15 days... so you forget easily... They let me have a building permit for an 85' tower.. so it can't be that bad.. and with the disasterous days (Floods, Fires, Earthquakes, Landslides) its a great place to practice Ham Radio EMCOMM because we really are needed... Makes it easy to justify buying the IC-7000 as every vehicle should be equiped with mobile HF, VHF and UHF communications for EMCOMM. __________________________________________________________ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist" "Krazy Yankee Six Loves America" ----- Original Message -----
From: "jdow" <jdow@...> To: <ic7000@...> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [ic7000] Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC obstructed.... your neighbors and thank them?Tom, I don't think Howard has a death wish that big. An offer of some |
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Re: Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC
Dr. Howard S. White
Tom
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The irony is that the ones with the biggest damage are on safari in South Africa and don't know yet it has happened... And there is NO INSURANCE COVERAGE for Acts of G_D Would love to have one of those Monstir Cranes to stick an antenna on...the big one must be 150' and it cranks up and rotates.... I am waiting for someone in the neighborhood to blame everything on my new tower.... Now if the North East side of the mountain would give way a bit in the right direction I would have perfect propagation to Europe without have to extend my tower.... __________________________________________________________ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist" "Krazy Yankee Six Loves America" ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom" <tgleeman@...> To: <ic7000@...> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 12:09 AM Subject: [ic7000] Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC
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Re: Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC
jdow
From: "Tom" <tgleeman@...>
Tom, I don't think Howard has a death wish that big. An offer of some sympathy and some cups of coffee might be worth it. There is NO hint of a smidgen of insurance coverage for this sort of disaster unless they paid really heavily for it. As to WHY they built there given the risks - damifino. I shake my head at it. People build in old river courses, on the edge of cliffs often overhanging the cliff, in the Mississippi flood plain, and even right next to "The Big One's" fault line (like feet away and in some cases straddling.) Humanity is quite fascinating to watch if you can manage some detachment from the scene. {^_-} I suppose I'm a lady. W6MKU sure as heck ain't a gentleman. I'm to vicious when riled. {O,o} |
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Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC
Tom
Hi Howard and the Group:
Howard(VE3GFW/K6) wrote: The one positive note is now that those two houses are further downHoward, it looks like your neighbors loss is your gain. Why not greet your neighbors and thank them? Tom KE6YNH, 73 San Diego, CA -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 |
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Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
<< This group is all Gentlemen here >>
There is also at least one Lady who posts regularly. I saw no problem in Howard's posting - but as I remarked earlier, I see no harm in a healthy dose of speculation either. The whole IC-7000 concept is still a matter of conjecture to some degree, until a product announcement appears on an Icom website. Best 73, Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ Owner, Yahoo! ic7000 Group Scanned by WinProxy |
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Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
Dr. Howard S. White
Thanks for the support Joanne and Jerry....
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My house made the national news tonite... at least the outlets of my new drain pipes where I am pumping torrents of water from the mountain did.. and so did the huge 100'+ cranes holding up the houses below me....Since the cranes are already here, I wonder if I could talk them into letting me borrow the cranes for a few minutes and turn them 180 degrees to install my MonstIR...Now that the torrential rains seem to be subsiding, I am sure those houses won't move that much further down the mountain while we install antennas..... My XYL says I have a one track mind.. while the whole mountain around us seems to be sliding down into the sea, all I can think about is how to get the MonstIR on top of my 85' tower...and the one positive note is now that those two houses are further down the mountain my propagation to the SouthWest is much less obstructed.... As I said previously I put an IC-7000? on order at HRO today just for the fun of it... and partially to stoke the 'guy thing' envy of those who consider themselve to be "gentlemen".. Don't know what it is going to cost, don't know what it is, but it should be fun to have the first one.. what ever it is.... While some of the technical speculation on this reflector makes sense and may even be read by Icom, a lot of the speculation on the price point is inane to say the least... I guess the part I find the most difficult is the continual questions about the unit when all the information that anyone has is the brief 1 page description in the French Magazine.. that's all the information there is right now.. PERIOD So why bother asking questions about the unit.. when nobody knows anymore than you do? Reminds me a lot about Wall Street, where everyone asks everyone else about the latest rumor... when in fact no one you ask knows anything...and those who actually might know something are never going to tell you... __________________________________________________________ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist" "Krazy Yankee Six Loves America" ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Keller - K3BZ" <k3bz@...> To: <ic7000@...> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me? beam...way up on top of a hill...while homes all around are sliding down with mudflows... in themiddle of non-stop record-breaking torrential rainstorms...can't be ALL bad 8^) |
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