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Many thanks to all OM who reported the mistake I made by using a German
"Umlaut" in the URRL for the NiMH akkus. Its now corrected to



72/73 de Peter, DL2FI


German QRP Group DL-QRP-AG
QRPproject QRP and homebrew international

Hi Ken,

Frankly, the FT-817 manual is one of the better written. If you did
read what it says in the manual about INTERNAL BATTERY operation, you
would have understood that it states that the 3-bar icon flashes when
running 5-W output. Because it states this icon condition for
battery operation, perhaps it would have been reasonable to realize
that it meant exactly what it said --- battery operation. The fine
engineers at Yaesu are trying to give each of us a gentle warning
that we are really consuming our internal power source at 5 W by
blinking the icon at us. The manual writer said exactly what he
meant and likely (American) English is his first language if it is
who I think wrote it.

Logically and consistently, Yaesu decided to use the same scheme for
power indication that they have with other units such as the VX-5R.
Full power is no icon and lower powers have 1,2 or 3 bars. Guess
they figure with a VX-5R you know that you are using battery power.
For the FT-817, no icon means full RF power when using an external
power source.

Now for the commercial --- your question was asked and answered in
the FAQ for this site. The FAQ is always a good place to go first if
you have a question. Also, the power icon is explained in the Pack-
It Reference for the FT-817 by VE3AYR (how to get it is in the FAQ as
well).

The main problem with Yaesu manuals is that they don't have an
index! The Pack-It does and that by itself makes it wonderful.

72/73 de Barry - W4WB





--- In FT817@y..., ghostusr@e... wrote:

I am trying to set my 817 for 5 watts power. My manual says I

will have a "blinking icon" at 5 watts. Running from a Yaesu power
supply that powers my 757GX, I can't get it to go to a "blinking
icon".

I do observe that when no icon is present, I have 8 bars showing on
the PO meter. I presume this to mean I am at full 5 watts power.
This is contradicting the owner's manual. Anyone else have this
experience. I am following the book. Am I doing something wrong,

or was the manual written by someone who doesn't use English as his
first language?

Thanks,
Ken, AI6F

You're understanding of what the manual doesn't tell
you is correct. When you are running from a battery,
you get a blinky power icon at 5W. When you run off a
power supply, you get no blinky power icon at 5W.

Here's how to think of it.

In any case, the various number of solid bars indicates some form of low
power. Three icons is MOST of the power, 2 is SOME of the power, 1 is a TINY
bit of power, and NONE is NOT low power, therefore full power.

Now, on batteries, you have the same exact power levels available... 1, 2,
3, or BLINKING 3 bars... blinking to get your attention that 5w is baaaaad
news for batteries.

If you think of it, 5w is either NO "low power indicator icons" if on 12v
external power ( no worries ), or a blinking power indicator icon ( DANGOR
WILL ROBINSON! ) if on precious battery power.

Thanks

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!

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browser. Sorry!

Julio

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Yes, the manual certainly leaves a lot to be desired. Interestingly the QST
review commented that it was an excellent manual, I think most of us here
strongly disagree with that statement. However, It sounds like your unit is
operating normally. The only time you will see the blinking icon is when you
are running on battery and the voltage is below 11 volts or so. If you are
using a power supply with 12 or 13 volts you will see no icon at all when
the power is at 5 watts.

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Ken,
I discovered the same last night .No blinking icon but 5 watts per my
mfj-971.

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--- In FT817@y..., ghostusr@e... wrote:

I am trying to set my 817 for 5 watts power. My manual says I

will

have a "blinking icon" at 5 watts. Running from a Yaesu power

supply

that powers my 757GX, I can't get it to go to a "blinking icon".

.

Thanks,
Ken, AI6F

Blinking icon only from internal batteries at the 5w level. Using an external power supply, icon is blank at 5w
72
Elliott WA6TLA

ghostusr@... wrote:

Thanks for all the replys.

WWW.powerportstore.com

Is the one that works.The one in World radio is a typo.

Bob

Ken,

You're understanding of what the manual doesn't tell
you is correct. When you are running from a battery,
you get a blinky power icon at 5W. When you run off a
power supply, you get no blinky power icon at 5W.

You should see what I have at home - an Astron 70 amp
power supply with my '817 sitting on top. It is
something only a sick engineer would love.

tim

--- ghostusr@... wrote:

I am trying to set my 817 for 5 watts power. My
manual says I will
have a "blinking icon" at 5 watts. Running from a
Yaesu power supply
that powers my 757GX, I can't get it to go to a
"blinking icon".

I do observe that when no icon is present, I have
8 bars showing on
the PO meter. I presume this to mean I am at full 5
watts power.
This is contradicting the owner's manual. Anyone
else have this
experience. I am following the book. Am I doing
something wrong, or
was the manual written by someone who doesn't use
English as his first
language?

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I am trying to set my 817 for 5 watts power. My manual says I will
have a "blinking icon" at 5 watts. Running from a Yaesu power supply
that powers my 757GX, I can't get it to go to a "blinking icon".

I do observe that when no icon is present, I have 8 bars showing on
the PO meter. I presume this to mean I am at full 5 watts power.
This is contradicting the owner's manual. Anyone else have this
experience. I am following the book. Am I doing something wrong, or
was the manual written by someone who doesn't use English as his first
language?

Thanks,
Ken, AI6F

What would be the optimal amp hour capacity for a batter when using 20-50w?
Am looking to put my 817 portable with the THP HL-50B amp.

mike ac6ja

Hi Group,
Post the time & freq. & I'll be there as often as I can.
73, Fil W8FIL

For those that wanted to know....

I finally got a hold of Yaesu today and they confirmed as many on the
reflector had suggested that 100 ma on the TX ground line is about it for
keying transverters/amps.

It was taking 107 ma to key the DEM 10 GHZ transverter, the relays, and the
1W Qualcomm amp. The Qualcomm amp was not keying properly though. The
solution was adding a relay inside the transverter so all the FT-817 sees is
the one relay that actually keys the transverter, amp, and coaxial relays.
Now the current is 45 ma and it works just fine.....thanks to WA1ECF for the
solution.

I set up portable at the Marconi site in Welfleet, MA (FN51) (as K1XP) on
Saturday during the contest and was able to work as far as W2SZ so the system
is playing. The DEM/FT-817 certainly makes a real sweet, very compact,
portable set up for 10 GHZ

73, Clint W1LP

BTW, I'm on land until mid-August

Also in the menu there is an option to turn the back lighting off.
The menu number is #10 "Backlight"



--- In FT817@y..., kc3vo@a... wrote:

NOTHING is wrong, except you did not REMOVE the external power.

The unit

will sense a very low voltage applied to the external port, and

enable the

backlight--This is NORMAL, do not waste your time/money sending it

back,

simply DISCONNECT the external power cable.

Hello group,

two AN-71 make a perfect lightweight portable dipole. I use such an
antenna since several years now. My best dx with such a dipole using
a
simple center isolator (no balun) is from Perth/VK to Cologne/DL (my
QSO partner was my father, DL6PE), using 2 Watt CW (Mizuho MX-14).

Looking forward to have the same fun with the FT-817 now!

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW (W1KW)



--- In FT817@y..., "Philip " <G0isw@q...> wrote:

Further to my previous message concerning counterpoise lengths, I
have found here in the UK that the Sony AN-71 compact shortwave
aerial is readily available at around ?9. It consists of 7

metres of

insulated black wire on a spool which is easily rewound into a

small

black circular case. For 20m to 6m the seven metres of wire

included

is sufficient for a counterpoise, for 80m to 40m I have attached a
crocodile clip to the end of the wire which I attach to any nearby
wire fence and it works great with the ATX walkabout antenna.

This message is intended to help others.

73 de Philip G0ISW

http:www.qsl.net/g0isw/

--- In FT817@y..., "Philip " <G0isw@q...> wrote:

I have found here in the UK that the Sony AN-71 compact shortwave
aerial is readily available at around ?9.
It consists of 7 metres of insulated black wire on a spool....

73 de Philip G0ISW

Another alternative to try is the retractable phone cable holders.
like:

With some thought and "2" of these + a little plastic and connectors
you could make a dipole or just use half of it for a counterpoise..

I have one of these for it's intended purpose, I think you could get
10M of thin wire on to it..

JAT

David

Philip,

Wow, this is just what I am looking for. Do you have a URL for where to buy
this new?

--jeffrey, K2MIT

--- In FT817@y..., "Philip " <G0isw@q...> wrote:

Further to my previous message concerning counterpoise lengths, I
have found here in the UK that the Sony AN-71 compact shortwave
aerial is readily available at around ?9. It consists of 7 metres

of

insulated black wire on a spool which is easily rewound into a

small

black circular case. For 20m to 6m the seven metres of wire

included

is sufficient for a counterpoise, for 80m to 40m I have attached a
crocodile clip to the end of the wire which I attach to any nearby
wire fence and it works great with the ATX walkabout antenna.

This message is intended to help others.

73 de Philip G0ISW

http:www.qsl.net/g0isw/

I have the AN-71 also Philip and agree with you. Compact and does
the job for 20 m and up. The little clip is a big plus!

72 de Barry - W4WB

--- In FT817@y..., "Johan Bodin" <sm6lkm.jbeab@s...> wrote:

Hi All

Bill Gerth wrote:

I have a favorite saying: "start with 5 watts and add skill until

the

desired result is achieved." :-)

Agreed!

QRP = Quality Replaces Power

72
Johan SM6LKM

And Johan, I have found LUCK replaces them all! :-)

72 de Barry - W4WB