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Re: Repairing the VR-UNIT of a FT-817ND

 

Please, please, PLEASE, stop sending multi-megabyte pictures as attachments.? Find some better place to put them, or reduce the resolution so that the?
message takes up far less space.? When your message hit my inbox at 3AM, it caused all my email to stop because it filled my mailbox.? I lost multiple subscriptions due to bouncing email, and all the mail traffic from 3AM until 8AM, when I discovered the clot.

Thanks
Mike, WB4TTZ

-----Original Message-----
From: Samudra
Sent: Aug 18, 2020 8:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ft817] Repairing the VR-UNIT of a FT-817ND

Thanks a lot for your suggestions. Confirmed that the 1900 mAH battery pack is now standard for ft-817ND per Yaesu. It is supported by internal charger so convenient. A bit costly though.?

All parts ordered so perhaps by next week plus may have a sitrep on the repair job. Got the right service manual in hand.?

73 de Samudra N3RDX


On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 09:25 Jonathan Cotten <Cottenjonathan@...> wrote:

Hello,?

some answers for you.
1) no, you just solder it. There is no update to show there is a new part.?

2) use a service manual to make sure all the functions are working. There are procedures for checking TX and RX but you will need access to test equipment.

3) I don’t know if there is a firmware update available put it’s probably not user serviceable, and you’ll probably have to send it in.

4) I don’t know if the part number of the battery case has been replaced but is Beatriz Veralde at Yaesu USA told you that’s what you need she is probably right.?


5) I am ordering the same thing. It’s on backorder so if I get it before you I will reply again. But don’t throw anything away just yet.?

6) for paint, probably a matte color, clean the case really well, I’m not sure what to do with the info sticker but keep it safe with masking take or something. To prevent unevenness you should remove all the old paint that you can. Use a primer before the final coat. Use instructions for doing automotive paint to get a food surface, including wet sanding between coats it may help get a good looking end product.?





					


				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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Thanks a lot for your suggestions. Confirmed that the 1900 mAH battery pack is now standard for ft-817ND per Yaesu. It is supported by internal charger so convenient. A bit costly though.?

All parts ordered so perhaps by next week plus may have a sitrep on the repair job. Got the right service manual in hand.?

73 de Samudra N3RDX



				
					
					

					


On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 09:25 Jonathan Cotten <Cottenjonathan@...> wrote:
Hello,?

some answers for you.
1) no, you just solder it. There is no update to show there is a new part.?


2) use a service manual to make sure all the functions are working. There are procedures for checking TX and RX but you will need access to test equipment.

3) I don’t know if there is a firmware update available put it’s probably not user serviceable, and you’ll probably have to send it in.

4) I don’t know if the part number of the battery case has been replaced but is Beatriz Veralde at Yaesu USA told you that’s what you need she is probably right.?



5) I am ordering the same thing. It’s on backorder so if I get it before you I will reply again. But don’t throw anything away just yet.?


6) for paint, probably a matte color, clean the case really well, I’m not sure what to do with the info sticker but keep it safe with masking take or something. To prevent unevenness you should remove all the old paint that you can. Use a primer before the final coat. Use instructions for doing automotive paint to get a food surface, including wet sanding between coats it may help get a good looking end product.?






					


				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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Hello,?

some answers for you.
1) no, you just solder it. There is no update to show there is a new part.?


2) use a service manual to make sure all the functions are working. There are procedures for checking TX and RX but you will need access to test equipment.

3) I don’t know if there is a firmware update available put it’s probably not user serviceable, and you’ll probably have to send it in.

4) I don’t know if the part number of the battery case has been replaced but is Beatriz Veralde at Yaesu USA told you that’s what you need she is probably right.?



5) I am ordering the same thing. It’s on backorder so if I get it before you I will reply again. But don’t throw anything away just yet.?


6) for paint, probably a matte color, clean the case really well, I’m not sure what to do with the info sticker but keep it safe with masking take or something. To prevent unevenness you should remove all the old paint that you can. Use a primer before the final coat. Use instructions for doing automotive paint to get a food surface, including wet sanding between coats it may help get a good looking end product.?

				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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Hello FT817 group,


I am in the middle of ordering parts from Yaesu and other suppliers to refubish and repair a FT-817ND. A fellow ham gave this project to me, after it waited 3 years for a resolution, and as far as i can tell (see pics), the VR UNIT needs attention - missing knobs/potentiometers/etc. But I also noticed the exterior top and bottom case scratched a bit. But the unit was provided to me in disassembled condition, so once the parts come for the VR UNIT, I will try to put it all together. #FT-817ND.?


    

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    Is there any firmware update needed for the VR UNIT operation/installation?
    

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    Is there any diagnostic procedure available to me to figure out if any board is non-functional after re-connection of all sub-assemblies and inital power on?
    

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    Is there any firmware update available for this series?
    

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    Also: On the call with Yaesu (great service) USA, I was told informally that the FNB-xx series of battery packs for FT-817ND was replaced by?SBR-32MH ? is this true??

    Just wanted to find out where this compatibility is specified before I consider ordering it.?
    

    5. 

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    I was wondering if the Yaesu VR UNIT assembly CB1359001 came with the signal connector J4901 already soldered - or do I have to source that from the current board??
    

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    Is there any recommended practice for painting the exterior covers so that it may look a bit more modest? I was actually thinking of getting artistic and painting it a royal bengal tiger stripe pattern, just because I wanted to do that for a long time.

    73 de Samudra N3RDX
    

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Thanks Oz, I believe you are correct.? I replaced the mechanical filter with a "null" 10dB 2 kohm impedance attenuator in the SSB filter location (with suitable pin coding as per the actual SSB filter). 

The ripple went completely, leaving a low-pass roll-off that tallies almost exactly with a simple LTspice model of the active audio filter that follows the product detector.? That is already down by 3.3dB at 2.5kHz.

All interesting and educational - but now to try and track down why the rig is not presenting the SSB filter with the correct impedance.

Simon
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My initial guess? is mismatch to the filter.

What's the pass band look like without the filter installed? Or with another filter installed?
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I've just installed a YF-122s SSB filter in my FT-818, the audio certainly sounds much fuller but looking at the overall RF to audio spectrum there is considerable ripple and slope - amounting to nearly 4dB over 500Hz to 2.5kHz.? I checked the filter separately, correctly terminated, on a VNA and the response is beautifully flat (<0.7dB peak to peak).

I just wondered if anyone else in the group has seen this effect and dug into possible causes?

Many thanks

Simon
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Anyone had a look at fitting one to an FT818 as the spec seems to same but what attachmnet point for the tap and power

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Hmmm?? Black Diamond watermelon are grown just
        about all over the US,

        including here in Texas. Can be big and super sweet.? I love the
        seeds for

        seed spitting contests, too.

    
73, Joe, K8JP/K5

    

    
On 8/12/2020 8:35 AM, Mike Olbrisch
      wrote:

    

    

      
Only problem I see is the possibility of
        importing a non-indigenous species that has unintended
        consequences.? And perhaps a serious discussion with the customs
        and agriculture folks.? Checking beforehand might save a lot of
        trouble.? Kinda like the Salt Cedar tree?

        

        Before the band police jump on this, let’s tie it to the
        FT-817.? If you drop a 20-pound melon on your 817, ?it will
        probably dent it badly.? Something that started with Sir Isaac
        Newton and an apple, but it applies to melons too.

      
?

      
Mike – KD5KC -- El Paso -- Texas.

    

    
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or
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STOP IT CHUCK!?? I just spit my 2nd cup of iced coffee all over my desk!

I need a radio with a remote control head for my trailer.? All Band, all mode, 100 watts but capable of QRP, because I will be running on battery power and solar panel (180w) a good deal of the time.? I want/need more than the FT-817.? I need as low an RX power consumption as possible.? I need it as small as possible, the trailer is very small.? But the places we can go with it behind the jeep will be awesome!
?
IC-706 series is out, way too much RX consumption.? I think my best bet is another FT-857D.? But I’m open to others.
?
?
Just imagine the places you can go with a JEEP pulling this.? It has a full queen-size memory-foam mattress inside.? My antenna will be a Shakespeare 120-55/AT-1011, with enough extra elements to make it 44 feet tall.
?
Mike – KD5KC -- El Paso -- Texas.
?
The canyons are calling, colorful and deep.? But I have promises to keep. 
And miles to go still in my Jeep...?? And miles to go still in my Jeep...
?
?
ADVENTURE:? The respectful pursuit of trouble.
?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck Cole
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 8:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ft817] was TX ERR, now FT-817, FT-991A, and MOTA
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But Mike, I said I need my FT-817 and FT-991A in my roving search for melon patches, using a 2m repeater on a 500ft tower that has 80-90 mile radius of coverage.. ?(real plan using my van-sized RV!).
?
Surely the seed company will know whether export is OK. ?Last year's winner in the giant melon-growing contest was 156lb!
A "normal" 60 pounder would not be good for an FT-817..
?
Chuck
K4TZO
-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Olbrisch 
Sent: Aug 12, 2020 9:35 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [ft817] was TX ERR, now FT-817, FT-991A, and MOTA 


Only problem I see is the possibility of importing a non-indigenous species that has unintended consequences.? And perhaps a serious discussion with the customs and agriculture folks.? Checking beforehand might save a lot of trouble.? Kinda like the Salt Cedar tree?

Before the band police jump on this, let’s tie it to the FT-817.? If you drop a 20-pound melon on your 817, ?it will probably dent it badly.? Something that started with Sir Isaac Newton and an apple, but it applies to melons too.
?
Mike – KD5KC -- El Paso -- Texas.
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But Mike, I said I need my FT-817 and FT-991A in my roving search for melon patches, using a 2m repeater on a 500ft tower that has 80-90 mile radius of coverage.. ?(real plan using my van-sized RV!).

Surely the seed company will know whether export is OK. ?Last year's winner in the giant melon-growing contest was 156lb!
A "normal" 60 pounder would not be good for an FT-817..

Chuck
K4TZO


				
					
					

					


-----Original Message-----

From: Mike Olbrisch 

Sent: Aug 12, 2020 9:35 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [ft817] was TX ERR, now FT-817, FT-991A, and MOTA



Only problem I see is the possibility of importing a non-indigenous species that has unintended consequences.? And perhaps a serious discussion with the customs and agriculture folks.? Checking beforehand might save a lot of trouble.? Kinda like the Salt Cedar tree?

Before the band police jump on this, let’s tie it to the FT-817.? If you drop a 20-pound melon on your 817, ?it will probably dent it badly.? Something that started with Sir Isaac Newton and an apple, but it applies to melons too.
?
Mike – KD5KC -- El Paso -- Texas.
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Only problem I see is the possibility of importing a non-indigenous species that has unintended consequences.? And perhaps a serious discussion with the customs and agriculture folks.? Checking beforehand might save a lot of trouble.? Kinda like the Salt Cedar tree?

Before the band police jump on this, let’s tie it to the FT-817.? If you drop a 20-pound melon on your 817, ?it will probably dent it badly.? Something that started with Sir Isaac Newton and an apple, but it applies to melons too.
?
Mike – KD5KC -- El Paso -- Texas.
?
The canyons are calling, colorful and deep.? But I have promises to keep. 
And miles to go still in my Jeep...?? And miles to go still in my Jeep...
?
?
ADVENTURE:? The respectful pursuit of trouble.
?
?
?
?

				
					
					

					


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck Cole
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 0:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ft817] was TX ERR, now FT-817, FT-991A, and MOTA
?
Thanks, Doug!
?
Not even some old-timers in the Florida Ag departments knew of these, but some GA folk do. The search has become interesting and is not over yet! ?History is interesting, but these are the very best melons for eating!
Probably could grow them in many areas of OZ. ?Burpee seed company has "Black Diamond" melon seeds.
?
Chuck
K4TZO
-----Original Message----- 
From: Doug Jackson 
Sent: Aug 11, 2020 11:08 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [ft817] was TX ERR, now FT-817, FT-991A, and MOTA 
Thank you Chuck .
?
I love these lists.? ?As an Australian I had no idea about the historical significance of these melons.
?
I hope you find the melons you are looking for.?
?
Doug? ?VK1ZDJ
?
On Wed, 12 Aug. 2020, 6:43 am Chuck Cole, <cncole@...> wrote:
I'm fond of my FT-817 and plan to keep and use it .? Have portable and walkabout antennas for it.
Planning to get either a PTT or VOX headset for it.
?
Very happy with my 2 FT-991As.? Will do "expeditions" in my minivan sized RV and use nearby repeaters that have 90 mile radius as I search for hobby farms that still raise the Stone Mountain Cannonball watermelons (aka Black Diamond).? These are the best and were the most common in the US Southeast until about 1960.? These are big, round, dark green, and average 40-60lbs each.? They do not pack at all in stake-bed farm trucks, so there were frequent "melon avalanches" that often had fatalities.? The melons were outlawed to be taken to market because of this, so they are now only found at farm stands by a growing patch, and these are not easy to find!
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Probably need a MOTA award for "Melons On The Air" when found ? ?:-)


Chuck
K4TZO
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The one and only turn off (FOR ME) on the FT-991 is the inability to remove and remote the front panel.? This is the one and only reason why I’ll stick to the 857.? For my needs, that was a serious omission.
?
Mike – KD5KC -- El Paso -- Texas.
?
The canyons are calling, colorful and deep.? But I have promises to keep. 
And miles to go still in my Jeep...?? And miles to go still in my Jeep...
?
?
ADVENTURE:? The respectful pursuit of trouble.
?
?
?
?

				
					
					

					


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck Cole
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 18:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ft817] was TX ERR, now FT-817, FT-991A, and MOTA
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Hi Marty,

Don't know the FT-857D, but the FT-991A has everything and all reviews say it's great, so I'd feel safe in saying that the FT-991A is a complete and deluxe upgrade for the FT-857A.
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Marty Hartwell 
Sent: Aug 11, 2020 4:54 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [ft817] was TX ERR, now FT-817, FT-991A, and MOTA 
Hi Chuck
A question please. Is it safe to say the FT-991A is a good replacement for the FT-857D?
Say size wise and mostly the same but up to date or with more features?
Thanks
?
Marty kd8bj
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On 8/11/20 3:43 PM, Chuck Cole wrote:
I'm fond of my FT-817 and plan to keep and use it . ?Have portable and walkabout antennas for it. 
Planning to get either a PTT or VOX headset for it.
?
Very happy with my 2 FT-991As. ?Will do "expeditions" in my minivan sized RV and use nearby repeaters that have 90 mile radius as I search for hobby farms that still raise the Stone Mountain Cannonball watermelons (aka Black Diamond). ?,,,
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Chuck
K4TZO
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Ok, I checked on the filter. I'm use to seeing it as a different brand. Were good. The filter is sealed in a anti static bag, so taking a picture is tough. I will paste a stock photo. Is your QRZ address correct? I emailed you directly





        

            


                

                    On Tuesday, August 11, 2020, 8:56:08 PM EDT, Matthew Shipley" via groups.io <mshipley2@...> wrote:
                

                


                


                

        
Ok. I will check back in with you in the morning.



        

            


                

                    On Tuesday, August 11, 2020, 08:42:40 PM EDT, Don T via groups.io <satranger@...> wrote:
                

                


                


                
It's in my 817ND and works fine.?

 
 

				
					
					

					


 
 
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 7:38 PM, Matthew Shipley" via groups.io
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I dont think that one is compatable with the 817



        

            


                

                    On Tuesday, August 11, 2020, 08:29:40 PM EDT, Don T via groups.io <satranger@...> wrote:
                

                


                


                
I've got the xf-115c filter. 500hz. Which cw filter is in the dual board?

 
 
 
 
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 7:07 PM, Matthew Shipley" via groups.io
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                    On Tuesday, August 11, 2020, 03:48:14 PM EDT, Don T via groups.io <satranger@...> wrote:
                

                


                


                
I'll take you up on that. Have check which CW filter I have and get back with you this afternoon.? Where are you located???

Don.? K5ZRQ

 
 
 
 
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 2:42 PM, Matthew Shipley" via groups.io
<mshipley2@...> wrote:
 
 
 
I have a new unopened W4RT one board filter that covers both CW and SSB. I do not use SSB and would like to trade for an 817 CW filter. Thanks
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I have this earlier version (1.3.45) of FLRIG installed on? Windows system. My observation is that this version of FLRIG initialisation appears to complete however the frequency and mode are not being read.??
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Thanks, Doug!

Not even some old-timers in the Florida Ag departments knew of these, but some GA folk do. The search has become interesting and is not over yet! ?History is interesting, but these are the very best melons for eating!
Probably could grow them in many areas of OZ. ?Burpee seed company has "Black Diamond" melon seeds.

Chuck
K4TZO

				
					
					

					


-----Original Message-----

From: Doug Jackson 

Sent: Aug 11, 2020 11:08 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [ft817] was TX ERR, now FT-817, FT-991A, and MOTA



Thank you Chuck .

I love these lists.? ?As an Australian I had no idea about the historical significance of these melons.

I hope you find the melons you are looking for.?

Doug? ?VK1ZDJ

On Wed, 12 Aug. 2020, 6:43 am Chuck Cole, <cncole@...> wrote:
I'm fond of my FT-817 and plan to keep and use it .? Have portable and walkabout antennas for it.
Planning to get either a PTT or VOX headset for it.

Very happy with my 2 FT-991As.? Will do "expeditions" in my minivan sized RV and use nearby repeaters that have 90 mile radius as I search for hobby farms that still raise the Stone Mountain Cannonball watermelons (aka Black Diamond).? These are the best and were the most common in the US Southeast until about 1960.? These are big, round, dark green, and average 40-60lbs each.? They do not pack at all in stake-bed farm trucks, so there were frequent "melon avalanches" that often had fatalities.? The melons were outlawed to be taken to market because of this, so they are now only found at farm stands by a growing patch, and these are not easy to find!

Probably need a MOTA award for "Melons On The Air" when found ? ?:-)


Chuck
K4TZO

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Thanks for your reply, Ron!

I'm glad to encounter someone with your depth of current?knowledge!


I'm technical and have patents for computer chip design, etc, but?I'm just returning to ham radio after 60 yrs and to Florida after 32?year "exile" up north for a job after the Challenger accident. ?Retired now. ?Ham radios had glowing glass bottles and some?earthed grids when I was active and did some DIY before. ?I'm?catching up, but it's taking a while.?

Chuck
K4TZO



				
					
					

					


-----Original Message-----

From: "Ron Wright via groups.io" 

Sent: Aug 11, 2020 9:28 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [ft817] was TX ERR, now FT-817, FT-991A, and MOTA



The FT857/897 are the basic 100W radios that does cover a lot of bands as the FT991 does (HF/6m/2m/440 and all mode).

But the FT991 is IF DSP allowing of setting up IF filters where the 857/897 requires additional filters you buy and also is useless AF DSP.? The FT991 also does Fusion and has a touch screen making it easier to get to the menus.? The menus in the 857/897 suck, that is to access them.? Also the FT991 being IF DSP, it also uses the DSP for shaping the rcv and xmt signal, lots of filters for adjusting this.

The FT991 is a few notches above the FT857/897 that are more of 2000s radios where FT991 is more modern.

73, ron, n9ee/r

Ron Wright, N9EE/R
Hernando Co ARES EC
BSEE
Micro Computer Concepts
Spring Hill, Florida
146.64 repeater, 1100 ft HAAT
352-835-5610

        




        

            


                

                    On Tuesday, August 11, 2020, 8:33:00 PM EDT, Chuck Cole <cncole@...> wrote:
                

                


                


                
Hi Marty,

Don't know the FT-857D, but the FT-991A has everything and all reviews say it's great, so I'd feel safe in saying that the FT-991A is a complete and deluxe upgrade for the FT-857A.





					


				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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Thank you Chuck .

I love these lists.? ?As an Australian I had no idea about the historical significance of these melons.

I hope you find the melons you are looking for.?

Doug? ?VK1ZDJ


				
					
					

					


On Wed, 12 Aug. 2020, 6:43 am Chuck Cole, <cncole@...> wrote:
I'm fond of my FT-817 and plan to keep and use it .? Have portable and walkabout antennas for it.
Planning to get either a PTT or VOX headset for it.

Very happy with my 2 FT-991As.? Will do "expeditions" in my minivan sized RV and use nearby repeaters that have 90 mile radius as I search for hobby farms that still raise the Stone Mountain Cannonball watermelons (aka Black Diamond).? These are the best and were the most common in the US Southeast until about 1960.? These are big, round, dark green, and average 40-60lbs each.? They do not pack at all in stake-bed farm trucks, so there were frequent "melon avalanches" that often had fatalities.? The melons were outlawed to be taken to market because of this, so they are now only found at farm stands by a growing patch, and these are not easy to find!

Probably need a MOTA award for "Melons On The Air" when found ? ?:-)


Chuck
K4TZO

-----Original Message-----

From: Marty Hartwell 

Sent: Aug 11, 2020 3:14 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [ft817] TX ERR on 40m from .101 to .200








    
That group are designing yet another amp, much smaller is
      footprint too and more 

    

    
upgrades since improvement in design features. From my experience
      and lack of 

    

    
much use for the current one I am not sure I would sell mine just
      to build a newer one.

    
I think if anything I would keep what I have and I need more
      power or features I would

    
go with an FT-991 maybe.

    
Not doing much of anything for the time being though.

    


    

    
Cheers

    
Marty kd8bj

    
PS. By the way during one of my longer trips to UK in the 80's I
      had the good fortune

    
to meet the Rev George and attempt to operate from a park in
      Oswestry with a very

    
under powered TX and very poor antenna with a home brew small
      unit. With a nice

    
antenna from the home area on a better antenna it worked fine. 

    

    


    

    
On 8/11/20 5:51 AM, Peter (G1FXE) via
       wrote:

    

    


      On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 02:42 PM, Marty Hartwell wrote:

      

        
I have been following along here with this discussion, and
          just noticed that Peter is and I 

        
would presume have a UK version of the ND. While Mike has a
          US version of the ND.

      

      Marty, 

      

      You are correct I do indeed have the UK version but it does appear
      that my rig is somewhat unique in allowing a Softmod as others
      with UK versions

      (including my colleague who bought his within weeks of my
      purchase) are unable to use this method

      

      BTW I also have a HFpacker amp..well most of it anyway as I have
      still to complete the build !

      ?

      -- 

      Peter.....

      (G1FXE)

    













					


				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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The FT857/897 are the basic 100W radios that does cover a lot of bands as the FT991 does (HF/6m/2m/440 and all mode).

But the FT991 is IF DSP allowing of setting up IF filters where the 857/897 requires additional filters you buy and also is useless AF DSP.? The FT991 also does Fusion and has a touch screen making it easier to get to the menus.? The menus in the 857/897 suck, that is to access them.? Also the FT991 being IF DSP, it also uses the DSP for shaping the rcv and xmt signal, lots of filters for adjusting this.

The FT991 is a few notches above the FT857/897 that are more of 2000s radios where FT991 is more modern.

73, ron, n9ee/r

Ron Wright, N9EE/R
Hernando Co ARES EC
BSEE
Micro Computer Concepts
Spring Hill, Florida
146.64 repeater, 1100 ft HAAT
352-835-5610

        




        

            


                

                    On Tuesday, August 11, 2020, 8:33:00 PM EDT, Chuck Cole <cncole@...> wrote:
                

                


                


                
Hi Marty,

Don't know the FT-857D, but the FT-991A has everything and all reviews say it's great, so I'd feel safe in saying that the FT-991A is a complete and deluxe upgrade for the FT-857A.


				
					
					

					


-----Original Message-----

From: Marty Hartwell 

Sent: Aug 11, 2020 4:54 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [ft817] was TX ERR, now FT-817, FT-991A, and MOTA








    
Hi Chuck

    
A question please. Is it safe to say the FT-991A is a good
      replacement for the FT-857D?

    
Say size wise and mostly the same but up to date or with more
      features?

    
Thanks

    


    

    
Marty kd8bj

    


    

    
On 8/11/20 3:43 PM, Chuck Cole wrote:

    

    


      
      
I'm fond of my FT-817 and plan to keep and
        use it . ?Have portable and walkabout antennas for it.
        
Planning to get either a PTT or VOX headset for it.

          


            
Very happy with my 2 FT-991As. ?Will do "expeditions"
              in my minivan sized RV and use nearby repeaters that have
              90 mile radius as I search for hobby farms that still
              raise the Stone Mountain Cannonball watermelons (aka Black
              Diamond). ?,,,

Chuck
K4TZO




 




            
        

					


				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
	

	
	
	
	


	

		
		
		
		
		
	

	

		
		
		
		
		
	

	
	

		
		
		
		
	



	

		

			
	
		

			
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