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Does anyone know if the kits, if they were available would work with the FT818? I’ve found a couple on the secondary market…

Thanks,
Dan

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On Jun 13, 2019, at 12:51 PM, Mike-2020@... [FT817] <FT817@...> wrote:


I disagree 1000%.? I too have thousands of contacts from many US states and several European countries, and some pretty good DX too.??

For "CASUAL" CW operation on good bands, I more often than not operate CW with the SSB filter.? On a contest weekend, yeah, CW filter.

The stock Murata SSB filter sucks.? Several dB of roll-off on both ends, and terrible skirts.? The Collins SSB filter has been proven to increase talk power on SSB by 3 dB with proper adjustment of the upper and lower carrier injection points and mic gain.

If you are primarily an SSB operator, the Collins SSB filter is very much worth the improvements gained.

If you enjoy both modes, a difficult decision.? Having both filters is the best, but the kit is no longer available.? If you don't care about SSB, then the choice is easy.

Vy73 -- Mike -- DL/KD5KC.
Rhone Mountains
Strahlungen, Germany.

Watch for me from HB9 and HB0 next week.? B-10 field day this weekend.



On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 8:15 AM -0600, "John Leonardelli?ve3ips@...?[FT817]"?<FT817@...>?wrote:

The 500 hz cw filter is a mandatory addition to this radio... The SSB filter is a bit close to the stock filter waveshape to probably not bother.

Thousands of contacts and I still love this radio
John VE3IPS

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On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 10:56 PM <FT817@...> wrote:

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1a
Re: Brian KB1RBK?by "Al Skierkiewicz"?markaren1@...
1b

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Re: Brian KB1RBK?

Tue Jun?11,?2019 8:53?pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Al Skierkiewicz" markaren1@...?

Brian,?
Do you have a narrow filter in this radio? It is possible that you have
selected the narrow (CW) filter for all bands. That filter is normally only
500HZ wide or less if it is not a Yaesu filter. With the filter in, you
will hear very little normal band noise. Also, if you remove the antenna
while listening, the background noise should go down considerably when you
remove the antenna. Please double check the menu squelch/RF gain setting to
be sure. Background noise should rise and fall while you rotate the front
panel SQL/RF knob.

Al Skierkiewicz

1b

Re: Brian KB1RBK?

Wed Jun?12,?2019 10:44?am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Joseph VanHook" vanhookjr76@...?

This is a link to see where you will most likely find the digital modes on
HF.???Also I would like to mention
that I have noticed compared to other radios (my 991A in particular), my
817nd does not have the receive that other larger radios have. I have
confirmed this just changing antennas between radios using various bands
and daytime and nighttime. Digital works pretty great, especially FT8.
Regards; Joseph KD4RXP EN42aw Iowa

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On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:23 AM Brian Wood?gremlinscastle@...?[FT817]
<FT817@...> wrote:

>
>
> Thanks so much for the advice and encouragement. The good news I have
> spent so much time fooling around with settings etc. that I have learned a
> lot about the radio. I may have heard the FT8 tones as I have slowly gone
> up and down the bands. I have also heard some voice signals with the ATAS
> antenna but they were very weak. My biggest worry is that there is
> something wrong with the radio as I bought it on EBay. Hopefully I will be
> able to figure this out when I get together with a local club for field day.
> Brian KB1RBK
>
>
>
> On Jun 10, 2019, at 6:22 PM,?m6ssb73@...?[FT817] <
>?FT817@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi again Brian, SSB signals are a bit sparse at the moment so I don’t even
> bother as I’m antenna limited, but digital modes are alive and well - try
> listening for FT8 signals on 20 metres at 17.074mhz ( sounds like musical
> tones) during the day or 7.074 MHz after dark, I worked stations on 10 and
> 12 metres using a short non resonant dipole on top of my fence at the
> weekend, even heard stations from Brazil, USA, and Middle East.
> Just remember that height above ground is important for a wire antenna but
> HF signals are not badly affected by location unless you live in a city or
> have a lot of man made noise, I live about 1/4 mile from a Motorway
> (Freeway) and the HV power transmission lines and have very little noise at
> around S1 to S3.
> Now VHF and UHF that’s a different story, trees, buildings hills etc will
> greatly effect your signals for these modes it’s a case of the higher the
> better, plus the antenna needs good gain and efficiency - a cheap whip on a
> mag mount just won’t cut it, keep trying and don’t give up others on this
> group have already given good advice and will continue to do so, oh and by
> the way if you’ve got a buddy with a working station why not get him to try
> the 817 on his antenna, at least it will prove that the rig is ok.
> 73 de Paul - 2E0YOB
>
>?
>

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    Re: Digest Number 8948

     

    I disagree 1000%.? I too have thousands of contacts from many US states and several European countries, and some pretty good DX too.?

    For "CASUAL" CW operation on good bands, I more often than not operate CW with the SSB filter.? On a contest weekend, yeah, CW filter.

    The stock Murata SSB filter sucks.? Several dB of roll-off on both ends, and terrible skirts.? The Collins SSB filter has been proven to increase talk power on SSB by 3 dB with proper adjustment of the upper and lower carrier injection points and mic gain.

    If you are primarily an SSB operator, the Collins SSB filter is very much worth the improvements gained.

    If you enjoy both modes, a difficult decision.? Having both filters is the best, but the kit is no longer available.? If you don't care about SSB, then the choice is easy.

    Vy73 -- Mike -- DL/KD5KC.
    Rhone Mountains
    Strahlungen, Germany.

    Watch for me from HB9 and HB0 next week.? B-10 field day this weekend.



    On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 8:15 AM -0600, "John Leonardelli ve3ips@... [FT817]" <FT817@...> wrote:

    The 500 hz cw filter is a mandatory addition to this radio.. The SSB filter is a bit close to the stock filter waveshape to probably not bother.

    Thousands of contacts and I still love this radio
    John VE3IPS

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    On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 10:56 PM <FT817@...> wrote:

    2 Messages

    Digest #8948
    1a
    Re: Brian KB1RBK by "Al Skierkiewicz" markaren1@...
    1b

    Messages

    1a

    Re: Brian KB1RBK

    Tue Jun?11,?2019 8:53?pm (PDT) . Posted by:

    "Al Skierkiewicz" markaren1@...

    Brian,
    Do you have a narrow filter in this radio? It is possible that you have
    selected the narrow (CW) filter for all bands. That filter is normally only
    500HZ wide or less if it is not a Yaesu filter. With the filter in, you
    will hear very little normal band noise. Also, if you remove the antenna
    while listening, the background noise should go down considerably when you
    remove the antenna. Please double check the menu squelch/RF gain setting to
    be sure. Background noise should rise and fall while you rotate the front
    panel SQL/RF knob.

    Al Skierkiewicz

    1b

    Re: Brian KB1RBK

    Wed Jun?12,?2019 10:44?am (PDT) . Posted by:

    "Joseph VanHook" vanhookjr76@...

    This is a link to see where you will most likely find the digital modes on
    HF. Also I would like to mention
    that I have noticed compared to other radios (my 991A in particular), my
    817nd does not have the receive that other larger radios have. I have
    confirmed this just changing antennas between radios using various bands
    and daytime and nighttime. Digital works pretty great, especially FT8.
    Regards; Joseph KD4RXP EN42aw Iowa

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    On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:23 AM Brian Wood gremlinscastle@... [FT817]
    <FT817@...> wrote:

    >
    >
    > Thanks so much for the advice and encouragement. The good news I have
    > spent so much time fooling around with settings etc. that I have learned a
    > lot about the radio. I may have heard the FT8 tones as I have slowly gone
    > up and down the bands. I have also heard some voice signals with the ATAS
    > antenna but they were very weak. My biggest worry is that there is
    > something wrong with the radio as I bought it on EBay. Hopefully I will be
    > able to figure this out when I get together with a local club for field day.
    > Brian KB1RBK
    >
    >
    >
    > On Jun 10, 2019, at 6:22 PM, m6ssb73@... [FT817] <
    > FT817@...> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > Hi again Brian, SSB signals are a bit sparse at the moment so I don’t even
    > bother as I’m antenna limited, but digital modes are alive and well - try
    > listening for FT8 signals on 20 metres at 17.074mhz ( sounds like musical
    > tones) during the day or 7.074 MHz after dark, I worked stations on 10 and
    > 12 metres using a short non resonant dipole on top of my fence at the
    > weekend, even heard stations from Brazil, USA, and Middle East.
    > Just remember that height above ground is important for a wire antenna but
    > HF signals are not badly affected by location unless you live in a city or
    > have a lot of man made noise, I live about 1/4 mile from a Motorway
    > (Freeway) and the HV power transmission lines and have very little noise at
    > around S1 to S3.
    > Now VHF and UHF that’s a different story, trees, buildings hills etc will
    > greatly effect your signals for these modes it’s a case of the higher the
    > better, plus the antenna needs good gain and efficiency - a cheap whip on a
    > mag mount just won’t cut it, keep trying and don’t give up others on this
    > group have already given good advice and will continue to do so, oh and by
    > the way if you’ve got a buddy with a working station why not get him to try
    > the 817 on his antenna, at least it will prove that the rig is ok.
    > 73 de Paul - 2E0YOB
    >
    >
    >

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    Re: Digest Number 8948

     

    I disagree 1000%.? For casual CW, THE

    Vy73 -- Mike -- KD5KC
    Strahlungen Germany




    On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 8:15 AM -0600, "John Leonardelli ve3ips@... [FT817]" <FT817@...> wrote:

    The 500 hz cw filter is a mandatory addition to this radio.. The SSB filter is a bit close to the stock filter waveshape to probably not bother.

    Thousands of contacts and I still love this radio
    John VE3IPS

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    On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 10:56 PM <FT817@...> wrote:

    2 Messages

    Digest #8948
    1a
    Re: Brian KB1RBK by "Al Skierkiewicz" markaren1@...
    1b

    Messages

    1a

    Re: Brian KB1RBK

    Tue Jun?11,?2019 8:53?pm (PDT) . Posted by:

    "Al Skierkiewicz" markaren1@...

    Brian,
    Do you have a narrow filter in this radio? It is possible that you have
    selected the narrow (CW) filter for all bands. That filter is normally only
    500HZ wide or less if it is not a Yaesu filter. With the filter in, you
    will hear very little normal band noise. Also, if you remove the antenna
    while listening, the background noise should go down considerably when you
    remove the antenna. Please double check the menu squelch/RF gain setting to
    be sure. Background noise should rise and fall while you rotate the front
    panel SQL/RF knob.

    Al Skierkiewicz

    1b

    Re: Brian KB1RBK

    Wed Jun?12,?2019 10:44?am (PDT) . Posted by:

    "Joseph VanHook" vanhookjr76@...

    This is a link to see where you will most likely find the digital modes on
    HF. Also I would like to mention
    that I have noticed compared to other radios (my 991A in particular), my
    817nd does not have the receive that other larger radios have. I have
    confirmed this just changing antennas between radios using various bands
    and daytime and nighttime. Digital works pretty great, especially FT8.
    Regards; Joseph KD4RXP EN42aw Iowa

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    On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:23 AM Brian Wood gremlinscastle@... [FT817]
    <FT817@...> wrote:

    >
    >
    > Thanks so much for the advice and encouragement. The good news I have
    > spent so much time fooling around with settings etc. that I have learned a
    > lot about the radio. I may have heard the FT8 tones as I have slowly gone
    > up and down the bands. I have also heard some voice signals with the ATAS
    > antenna but they were very weak. My biggest worry is that there is
    > something wrong with the radio as I bought it on EBay. Hopefully I will be
    > able to figure this out when I get together with a local club for field day.
    > Brian KB1RBK
    >
    > Sent from my iPad
    >
    > On Jun 10, 2019, at 6:22 PM, m6ssb73@... [FT817] <
    > FT817@...> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > Hi again Brian, SSB signals are a bit sparse at the moment so I don’t even
    > bother as I’m antenna limited, but digital modes are alive and well - try
    > listening for FT8 signals on 20 metres at 17.074mhz ( sounds like musical
    > tones) during the day or 7.074 MHz after dark, I worked stations on 10 and
    > 12 metres using a short non resonant dipole on top of my fence at the
    > weekend, even heard stations from Brazil, USA, and Middle East.
    > Just remember that height above ground is important for a wire antenna but
    > HF signals are not badly affected by location unless you live in a city or
    > have a lot of man made noise, I live about 1/4 mile from a Motorway
    > (Freeway) and the HV power transmission lines and have very little noise at
    > around S1 to S3.
    > Now VHF and UHF that’s a different story, trees, buildings hills etc will
    > greatly effect your signals for these modes it’s a case of the higher the
    > better, plus the antenna needs good gain and efficiency - a cheap whip on a
    > mag mount just won’t cut it, keep trying and don’t give up others on this
    > group have already given good advice and will continue to do so, oh and by
    > the way if you’ve got a buddy with a working station why not get him to try
    > the 817 on his antenna, at least it will prove that the rig is ok.
    > 73 de Paul - 2E0YOB
    >
    >
    >

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    Re: Digest Number 8948

     

    Hi

    I guess it depends. If you don't do CW then the narrow filter isn't mandatory, and if only occasionally do CW

    then an audio filter might be good enough. I have the 500HZ filter installed and have used it, but I am old

    enough to remember using receivers that didn't have much filter and relied on the built in filter in my head,

    and have used and do have an audio filter. I now to a lot of digital operations with my FT817 original and don't

    use the CW filter much.

    Your mileage will very on this subject in my opinion.


    Marty kd8bj

    On 6/13/19 9:15 AM, John Leonardelli ve3ips@... [FT817] wrote:
    The 500 hz cw filter is a mandatory addition to this radio. The SSB filter is a bit close to the stock filter waveshape to probably not bother.

    Thousands of contacts and I still love this radio
    John VE3IPS

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    Brian,
    Do you have a narrow filter in this radio? It is possible that you
    have
    selected the narrow (CW) filter for all bands. That filter is
    normally only
    500HZ wide or less if it is not a Yaesu filter. With the filter
    in, you
    will hear very little normal band noise. Also, if you remove the
    antenna
    while listening, the background noise should go down considerably
    when you
    remove the antenna. Please double check the menu squelch/RF gain
    setting to
    be sure. Background noise should rise and fall while you rotate
    the front
    panel SQL/RF knob.

    Al Skierkiewicz

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    This is a link to see where you will most likely find the digital
    modes on
    HF. Also I would like to mention
    that I have noticed compared to other radios (my 991A in
    particular), my
    817nd does not have the receive that other larger radios have. I have
    confirmed this just changing antennas between radios using various
    bands
    and daytime and nighttime. Digital works pretty great, especially FT8.
    Regards; Joseph KD4RXP EN42aw Iowa

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    On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:23 AM Brian Wood
    gremlinscastle@... <mailto:gremlinscastle@...> [FT817]
    <FT817@... <mailto:FT817@...>> wrote:

    >
    >
    > Thanks so much for the advice and encouragement. The good news I
    have
    > spent so much time fooling around with settings etc. that I have
    learned a
    > lot about the radio. I may have heard the FT8 tones as I have
    slowly gone
    > up and down the bands. I have also heard some voice signals with
    the ATAS
    > antenna but they were very weak. My biggest worry is that there is
    > something wrong with the radio as I bought it on EBay. Hopefully
    I will be
    > able to figure this out when I get together with a local club
    for field day.
    > Brian KB1RBK
    >
    > Sent from my iPad
    >
    > On Jun 10, 2019, at 6:22 PM, m6ssb73@...
    <mailto:m6ssb73@...> [FT817] <
    > FT817@... <mailto:FT817@...>> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > Hi again Brian, SSB signals are a bit sparse at the moment so I
    don’t even
    > bother as I’m antenna limited, but digital modes are alive and
    well - try
    > listening for FT8 signals on 20 metres at 17.074mhz ( sounds
    like musical
    > tones) during the day or 7.074 MHz after dark, I worked stations
    on 10 and
    > 12 metres using a short non resonant dipole on top of my fence
    at the
    > weekend, even heard stations from Brazil, USA, and Middle East.
    > Just remember that height above ground is important for a wire
    antenna but
    > HF signals are not badly affected by location unless you live in
    a city or
    > have a lot of man made noise, I live about 1/4 mile from a Motorway
    > (Freeway) and the HV power transmission lines and have very
    little noise at
    > around S1 to S3.
    > Now VHF and UHF that’s a different story, trees, buildings hills
    etc will
    > greatly effect your signals for these modes it’s a case of the
    higher the
    > better, plus the antenna needs good gain and efficiency - a
    cheap whip on a
    > mag mount just won’t cut it, keep trying and don’t give up
    others on this
    > group have already given good advice and will continue to do so,
    oh and by
    > the way if you’ve got a buddy with a working station why not get
    him to try
    > the 817 on his antenna, at least it will prove that the rig is ok.
    > 73 de Paul - 2E0YOB
    >
    >
    >

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    Re: Digest Number 8948

     

    The 500 hz cw filter is a mandatory addition to this radio. The SSB filter is a bit close to the stock filter waveshape to probably not bother.

    Thousands of contacts and I still love this radio
    John VE3IPS

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    On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 10:56 PM <FT817@...> wrote:

    2 Messages

    Digest #8948
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    Re: Brian KB1RBK by "Al Skierkiewicz" markaren1@...
    1b

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    Re: Brian KB1RBK

    Tue Jun?11,?2019 8:53?pm (PDT) . Posted by:

    "Al Skierkiewicz" markaren1@...

    Brian,
    Do you have a narrow filter in this radio? It is possible that you have
    selected the narrow (CW) filter for all bands. That filter is normally only
    500HZ wide or less if it is not a Yaesu filter. With the filter in, you
    will hear very little normal band noise. Also, if you remove the antenna
    while listening, the background noise should go down considerably when you
    remove the antenna. Please double check the menu squelch/RF gain setting to
    be sure. Background noise should rise and fall while you rotate the front
    panel SQL/RF knob.

    Al Skierkiewicz

    1b

    Re: Brian KB1RBK

    Wed Jun?12,?2019 10:44?am (PDT) . Posted by:

    "Joseph VanHook" vanhookjr76@...

    This is a link to see where you will most likely find the digital modes on
    HF. Also I would like to mention
    that I have noticed compared to other radios (my 991A in particular), my
    817nd does not have the receive that other larger radios have. I have
    confirmed this just changing antennas between radios using various bands
    and daytime and nighttime. Digital works pretty great, especially FT8.
    Regards; Joseph KD4RXP EN42aw Iowa

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    On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:23 AM Brian Wood gremlinscastle@... [FT817]
    <FT817@...> wrote:

    >
    >
    > Thanks so much for the advice and encouragement. The good news I have
    > spent so much time fooling around with settings etc. that I have learned a
    > lot about the radio. I may have heard the FT8 tones as I have slowly gone
    > up and down the bands. I have also heard some voice signals with the ATAS
    > antenna but they were very weak. My biggest worry is that there is
    > something wrong with the radio as I bought it on EBay. Hopefully I will be
    > able to figure this out when I get together with a local club for field day.
    > Brian KB1RBK
    >
    >
    >
    > On Jun 10, 2019, at 6:22 PM, m6ssb73@... [FT817] <
    > FT817@...> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > Hi again Brian, SSB signals are a bit sparse at the moment so I don’t even
    > bother as I’m antenna limited, but digital modes are alive and well - try
    > listening for FT8 signals on 20 metres at 17.074mhz ( sounds like musical
    > tones) during the day or 7.074 MHz after dark, I worked stations on 10 and
    > 12 metres using a short non resonant dipole on top of my fence at the
    > weekend, even heard stations from Brazil, USA, and Middle East.
    > Just remember that height above ground is important for a wire antenna but
    > HF signals are not badly affected by location unless you live in a city or
    > have a lot of man made noise, I live about 1/4 mile from a Motorway
    > (Freeway) and the HV power transmission lines and have very little noise at
    > around S1 to S3.
    > Now VHF and UHF that’s a different story, trees, buildings hills etc will
    > greatly effect your signals for these modes it’s a case of the higher the
    > better, plus the antenna needs good gain and efficiency - a cheap whip on a
    > mag mount just won’t cut it, keep trying and don’t give up others on this
    > group have already given good advice and will continue to do so, oh and by
    > the way if you’ve got a buddy with a working station why not get him to try
    > the 817 on his antenna, at least it will prove that the rig is ok.
    > 73 de Paul - 2E0YOB
    >
    >
    >

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    CW filter options

     

    I'm interested in getting a 500 Hz CW filter for my ft-817 ND.?

    I'm confused by all the options available.?

    Yaesu offers a YF-122C. I guess these are expensive and maybe not the best performing?

    Then I have a hard time sorting out the other options/terms that may or may not still be available. I'd love a combo SSB/CW, but not a big concern.?

    Collins
    W4RT
    Sotabeams
    Inrad
    Mechanical vs digital??
    Others?

    Anyone with a handle on this, I would like to hear your thoughts.? Thanks!

    73
    KE0GNL

    Adam

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    Re: Brian KB1RBK

     

    This is a link to see where you will most likely find the digital modes on HF.?? ? ?Also I would like to mention that I have noticed compared to other radios (my 991A in particular), my 817nd does not have the receive that other larger radios have. I have confirmed this just changing antennas between radios using various bands and daytime and nighttime. Digital works pretty great, especially FT8.
    ? Regards; Joseph? ? KD4RXP? ?EN42aw? Iowa??

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    On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:23 AM Brian Wood gremlinscastle@... [FT817] <FT817@...> wrote:
    ?

    Thanks so much for the advice and encouragement. The good news I have spent so much time fooling around with settings etc. that I have learned a lot about the radio. I may have heard the FT8 tones as I have slowly gone up and down the bands. I have also heard some voice signals with the ATAS antenna but they were very weak. My biggest worry is that there is something wrong with the radio as I bought it on EBay. Hopefully I will be able to figure this out when I get together with a local club for field day.

    Brian KB1RBK


    On Jun 10, 2019, at 6:22 PM, m6ssb73@... [FT817] <FT817@...> wrote:

    ?

    Hi again Brian, SSB signals are a bit sparse at the moment so I don’t even bother as I’m antenna limited, but digital modes are alive and well - try listening for FT8 signals on 20 metres at 17.074mhz ( sounds like musical tones) during the day or 7.074 MHz after dark, I worked stations on 10 and 12 metres using a short non resonant dipole on top of my fence at the weekend, even heard stations from Brazil, USA, and Middle East.
    Just remember that height above ground is important for a wire antenna but HF signals are not badly affected by location unless you live in a city or have a lot of man made noise, I live about 1/4 mile from a Motorway (Freeway) and the HV power transmission lines and have very little noise at around S1 to S3.
    Now VHF and UHF that’s a different story, trees, buildings hills etc will greatly effect your signals for these modes it’s a case of the higher the better, plus the antenna needs good gain and efficiency - a cheap whip on a mag mount just won’t cut it, keep trying and don’t give up others on this group have already given good advice and will continue to do so, oh and by the way if you’ve got a buddy with a working station why not get him to try the 817 on his antenna, at least it will prove that the rig is ok.
    73 de Paul - 2E0YOB


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    Re: Brian KB1RBK

     

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    Brian,

    Do you have a narrow filter in this radio?? It is possible that you have selected the narrow (CW) filter for all bands.? That filter is normally only 500HZ wide or less if it is not a Yaesu filter.? With the filter in, you will hear very little normal band noise.? Also, if you remove the antenna while listening, the background noise should go down considerably when you remove the antenna.? Please double check the menu squelch/RF gain setting to be sure.? Background noise should rise and fall while you rotate the front panel SQL/RF knob.

    Al Skierkiewicz


    Re: Brian KB1RBK

     

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    In case you have trouble finding a field day location close to you, here's a link to the ARRL Field Day Locator Page:



    Ken, N2VIP

    On Jun 11, 2019, at 7:21 AM, Brian Wood gremlinscastle@... [FT817] <FT817@...> wrote:

    Hopefully I will be able to figure this out when I get together with a local club for field day.


    Re: Brian KB1RBK

     

    开云体育

    Thanks so much for the advice and encouragement. The good news I have spent so much time fooling around with settings etc. that I have learned a lot about the radio. I may have heard the FT8 tones as I have slowly gone up and down the bands. I have also heard some voice signals with the ATAS antenna but they were very weak. My biggest worry is that there is something wrong with the radio as I bought it on EBay. Hopefully I will be able to figure this out when I get together with a local club for field day.
    Brian KB1RBK


    On Jun 10, 2019, at 6:22 PM, m6ssb73@... [FT817] <FT817@...> wrote:

    ?

    Hi again Brian, SSB signals are a bit sparse at the moment so I don’t even bother as I’m antenna limited, but digital modes are alive and well - try listening for FT8 signals on 20 metres at 17.074mhz ( sounds like musical tones) during the day or 7.074 MHz after dark, I worked stations on 10 and 12 metres using a short non resonant dipole on top of my fence at the weekend, even heard stations from Brazil, USA, and Middle East.
    Just remember that height above ground is important for a wire antenna but HF signals are not badly affected by location unless you live in a city or have a lot of man made noise, I live about 1/4 mile from a Motorway (Freeway) and the HV power transmission lines and have very little noise at around S1 to S3.
    Now VHF and UHF that’s a different story, trees, buildings hills etc will greatly effect your signals for these modes it’s a case of the higher the better, plus the antenna needs good gain and efficiency - a cheap whip on a mag mount just won’t cut it, keep trying and don’t give up others on this group have already given good advice and will continue to do so, oh and by the way if you’ve got a buddy with a working station why not get him to try the 817 on his antenna, at least it will prove that the rig is ok.
    73 de Paul - 2E0YOB


    Re: Brian KB1RBK

     

    Hi again Brian, SSB signals are a bit sparse at the moment so I don’t even bother as I’m antenna limited, but digital modes are alive and well - try listening for FT8 signals on 20 metres at 17.074mhz ( sounds like musical tones) during the day or 7.074 MHz after dark, I worked stations on 10 and 12 metres using a short non resonant dipole on top of my fence at the weekend, even heard stations from Brazil, USA, and Middle East.
    Just remember that height above ground is important for a wire antenna but HF signals are not badly affected by location unless you live in a city or have a lot of man made noise, I live about 1/4 mile from a Motorway (Freeway) and the HV power transmission lines and have very little noise at around S1 to S3.
    Now VHF and UHF that’s a different story, trees, buildings hills etc will greatly effect your signals for these modes it’s a case of the higher the better, plus the antenna needs good gain and efficiency - a cheap whip on a mag mount just won’t cut it, keep trying and don’t give up others on this group have already given good advice and will continue to do so, oh and by the way if you’ve got a buddy with a working station why not get him to try the 817 on his antenna, at least it will prove that the rig is ok.
    73 de Paul - 2E0YOB


    Re: Brian KB1RBK

     

    开云体育

    Hi Paul
    I checked all those settings and then went through all of the bands and just couldn’t hear anything but noise using ?a long wire. Wondering if because I live in a wooded area and somewhat surrounded by hills that could be part of the problem although it does seem I should hear something. I was however able to hear some weak signals with the verticle. I have been doing this during the day which may not have helped either.
    73 Brian KB1RBK




    On Jun 10, 2019, at 4:53 AM, m6ssb73@... [FT817] <FT817@...> wrote:

    ?

    Brian, check menu item 45 is set to RF GAIN not SQUELCH then rotate the knob to max full clockwise position, then check that you have the ATTENUATION turned off and the IPO ( PRE-AMP) turned on both indicated by a large dot, check these by pushing the F button briefly and find the items in the sub menu by rotating the multi knob, once you find the setting you can change it by pressing the appropriate ABC function key below the display, hope this helps as even a few feet of wire should bring in plenty of signals depending on the band or time of day.
    73 de Paul- 2E0YOB


    Re: Brian KB1RBK

     

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    Brian,

    Well, you could very well have a problem with radio or antenna, but be aware that we are at the bottom of solar cycle 24, and the HF bands are not in good shape with few signals many hours of the day and change dramatically hour by hour. 15M 10M are dead most of the time with rare openings. 20M 40M and 80M are ur best bet, depending on the time of the day.

    I would look to 80M after dark or early morning, or we are just a little over 2 weeks away from Field Day, where the bands will be very busy no matter the propagation...

    Also check ur local club(s) for when their HF Nets are operated, frequency and Time...

    John N7MZ


    On 6/5/2019 5:15 AM, Brian Wood gremlinscastle@... [FT817] wrote:

    ?

    After passing my General I purchased a used FT-817 and my plan was to just string a wire and listen until I learned enough to actually start transmitting. What I don’t understand is I am not hearing anything on the radio but background noise. I am wondering if there is something wrong with my radio? I had hooked up an MFJ end fed antenna outside from a window thinking that would work for monitoring...but nothing! I used the rear ant jack and had that set right. Should I be able to hear something with 50 ft plus of wire on this radio?



    Re: Brian KB1RBK

     

    Brian, check menu item 45 is set to RF GAIN not SQUELCH then rotate the knob to max full clockwise position, then check that you have the ATTENUATION turned off and the IPO ( PRE-AMP) turned on both indicated by a large dot, check these by pushing the F button briefly and find the items in the sub menu by rotating the multi knob, once you find the setting you can change it by pressing the appropriate ABC function key below the display, hope this helps as even a few feet of wire should bring in plenty of signals depending on the band or time of day.
    73 de Paul- 2E0YOB


    Re: Brian KB1RBK

     

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    Hi Brian,

    ?

    First thing to check is that you’re on the correct antenna connector. If there is an “R” after the frequency display you are on the rear antenna connector (UHF) but if there is no R you are on the front (BNC) one.

    ?

    BTW, would be nice to sign with your name and callsign.

    ?

    73….Eric VK2VE

    ?

    From: FT817@...
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2019 22:16
    To: FT817@...
    Subject: [FT817] Brian KB1RBK

    ?

    ?

    After passing my General I purchased a used FT-817 and my plan was to just string a wire and listen until I learned enough to actually start transmitting. What I don’t understand is I am not hearing anything on the radio but background noise. I am wondering if there is something wrong with my radio? I had hooked up an MFJ end fed antenna outside from a window thinking that would work for monitoring...but nothing! I used the rear ant jack and had that set right. Should I be able to hear something with 50 ft plus of wire on this radio?


    Virus-free.


    Re: Connecting Raspberry Pi to FT-818nd CAT port

     

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    Hi folks,

    A quick update.? Thanks to all for the various morsels of wisdom.? They were all helpful.?

    To document this for others:

    1.? Connected the output of the Pi serial Transmit line (aka GPIO14) directly to the FT-818nd Accessory Rx D pin
    2.? Connected the output of the FT-818 Tx D through a resistor divider (5k + 10k), and fed the junction to the Pi serial Receive line (aka GPIO15).
    3.? Connected the two systems grounds
    4.? Enabled the serial port and disabled the serial console in the Pi Configuration "Interfaces" tab

    I found author "4x1md" on GitHub, and the software "ft817_cat_python".? Changed the serial port string to /dev/ttyS0 (this is a Pi3B), and it ran with no further changes required.??

    For the curious, the project here is to display the frequency of the Pi on my car's in-dash display (where the back-up camera goes).? I can't easily see what I'm tuned to while driving, as the radio is mounted sideways on the passenger-side of the center console, but the dash display is big and easy to see.? I can change frequencies and flip through memory channels by touch, but not read the rig's display.? So, VGA output from the Pi goes to the video in, via an A/B switch for the backup camera.? The Pi also runs Direwolf and YAAC for APRS Packet, or I just do voice on one of several local repeaters.? Really trying not to get the two modes mixed up.

    Next step is to do some formatting of the status text and to present it in a GUI box on the screen, auto-launched when booting.

    Thanks again to all!

    Greg? KO6TH


    'David Leckie' djcleckie@... [FT817] wrote:

    ?

    Hi

    ?

    Slightly “off topic” as its not directly RPi related just FT 817 but it might give you some ideas.

    ?

    Google IK1ZYW Keypad

    ?

    Its about connecting a Atmel ATtiny2313-20PU to a FT 817 to make a custom keypad.

    Some good advice about voltage levels etc.

    ?

    73

    ?

    Dave

    GM4NFI

    ?

    ?

    From: FT817@... [mailto:FT817@...]
    Sent: 04 June 2019 12:38 AM
    To: ft-817
    Subject: [FT817] Connecting Raspberry Pi to FT-818nd CAT port

    ?

    ?

    Hi folks,

    This should be easy to find, but I've not located the details...

    I'm looking to connect the serial port of a Raspberry Pi (GPIO14 & 15)
    to the CAT port on my FT-818nd. Neither the Pi nor the 818 have RS-232
    levels; both are "TTL-ish", I think. It seems silly to buy a CT-62 for
    the 818, and a Serial dongle for the Pi, if instead I can simply wire
    the two together.

    So my questions:

    1. Are both ports voltage compatible (3.3v for the Pi, for example)?
    2. Is the signaling correct (vs being inverted)?

    Thanks!

    Greg KO6TH



    Re: How do I use an "MX-P50M" Amp with FT817 please?

     

    Hi Derrick

    you will need to plug the data looking mini din plug in , I fits the socket near the antenna socket, that will give the amp the TX line switching from the radio ,?you say you have already got this socket in use , you will have to make up a adaptor cable so you can use the tx pins for the amp as well,

    Dave 2E0DMB??

    On 07 June 2019 at 10:04 "Derrick Dance gm4cxp@... [FT817]" <FT817@...> wrote:

    ?

    Hi all, I hope someone can help me set up my "MX-P50M" amp I have just bought off Ebay with my FT817 please?

    Absolutely no instructons with it, I connected it up and connected both dc leads to 13.7V PSU but no rf amplification taken place...power meter indicating 5W from the rig only.? ?I suspect it must be controlled via the rig. It came with a bag containing what looks like to be a 2.5mm stereo jack plug plus either a data plug or a cat plug, I'm not sure which.? ?I'm registered blind so cannot see well enough to identify them correctly!? Does anyone know if the lack of these connections stops the amp working?? If so, how on earth and where on earth do you connect these up? The data and cat sockets are already in use with my FT8 DIGITAL connections, so, I want to use the amp with the rig uncontrolled via the rig.


    73 and here's hoping someone on here can help?

    Derrick Dance GM4CXP


    ?


    ?


    ?


    Re: How do I use an "MX-P50M" Amp with FT817 please?

     

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    G'day Derrick,

    Hopefully this site has enough "instructions" in the review to help you.
    https://vk2qr.wordpress.com/2014/11/25/mx-p50m-hf-amplifier-review/

    73 Steve VK2ARS

    -------- Original message --------
    From: "Derrick Dance gm4cxp@... [FT817]" <FT817@...>
    Date: 7/6/19 19:04 (GMT+10:00)
    To: FT817@...
    Subject: [FT817] How do I use an "MX-P50M" Amp with FT817 please?

    Hi all, I hope someone can help me set up my "MX-P50M" amp I have just bought off Ebay with my FT817 please?
    Absolutely no instructons with it, I connected it up and connected both dc leads to 13.7V PSU but no rf amplification taken place...power meter indicating 5W from the rig only.? ?I suspect it must be controlled via the rig. It came with a bag containing what looks like to be a 2.5mm stereo jack plug plus either a data plug or a cat plug, I'm not sure which.? ?I'm registered blind so cannot see well enough to identify them correctly!? Does anyone know if the lack of these connections stops the amp working?? If so, how on earth and where on earth do you connect these up? The data and cat sockets are already in use with my FT8 DIGITAL connections, so, I want to use the amp with the rig uncontrolled via the rig.


    73 and here's hoping someone on here can help?

    Derrick Dance GM4CXP



    How do I use an "MX-P50M" Amp with FT817 please?

     

    Hi all, I hope someone can help me set up my "MX-P50M" amp I have just bought off Ebay with my FT817 please?
    Absolutely no instructons with it, I connected it up and connected both dc leads to 13.7V PSU but no rf amplification taken place...power meter indicating 5W from the rig only.? ?I suspect it must be controlled via the rig. It came with a bag containing what looks like to be a 2.5mm stereo jack plug plus either a data plug or a cat plug, I'm not sure which.? ?I'm registered blind so cannot see well enough to identify them correctly!? Does anyone know if the lack of these connections stops the amp working?? If so, how on earth and where on earth do you connect these up? The data and cat sockets are already in use with my FT8 DIGITAL connections, so, I want to use the amp with the rig uncontrolled via the rig.


    73 and here's hoping someone on here can help?

    Derrick Dance GM4CXP



    Brian KB1RBK

     

    After passing my General I purchased a used FT-817 and my plan was to just string a wire and listen until I learned enough to actually start transmitting. What I don’t understand is I am not hearing anything on the radio but background noise. I am wondering if there is something wrong with my radio? I had hooked up an MFJ end fed antenna outside from a window thinking that would work for monitoring...but nothing! I used the rear ant jack and had that set right. Should I be able to hear something with 50 ft plus of wire on this radio?