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Re: Best Price FT-817 at Dayton Hamvention?

Marty Purselley
 

Anyone locate a vendor who would honor the prices? Hamcom is coming up in Arlington, but we usually don't get "Dayton" type deals.

Marty AA5UN

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Mitchelson
To: FT817@...
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 5:45 AM
Subject: RE: [FT817] Best Price FT-817 at Dayton Hamvention?


I wonder if any of the dealers will honor thier Dayton prices for those of
us who could not go? ;')

-----Original Message-----
From: kc8ldo@... [mailto:kc8ldo@...]
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 9:56 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: [FT817] Best Price FT-817 at Dayton Hamvention?


I don't know about everyone else saying they were quoted a price of
$669 USD at HRO. When I checked on Friday AM HRO was selling them for
$639 UDS each!? So I got one, paid cash, and my printed sales slip
shows the price I was quoted above. Maybe they were selling so fast
they jacked the price up to match the vendor in the next booth, which
was quoting a price of $669 USD each, later on. Hummm?

The highest price I was quoted was $760 USD from Michigan Radio. When
I said I could get one from HRO much cheaper I was told, by a sales
agent at the vendor's booth, that they were "selling old stock, and
not the model with the current factory changes". I checked at the
Yaesu booth and was told that was completely untrue.

Looks like Dayton's Hamvention is not the place for the careless
shopper if they want to save money. 8->>

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO



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Re: USER REPORT: DX, ANTENNAS (MP-1), ETC!!! Long Post...

 

Harry,

Could you gives us some more details on your dipole?

Thanx,
Arlan W8OW

--- In FT817@y..., harry.edwards@s... wrote:
This past weekend from my QTH in the SF Bay area I was able to work
the following states and DX: S.C*, AZ*, TX*, CO*, ME, OH, WA*, AR,
VK2*, VK3*, VK4*, ZL1, VE6, and VE7* (* multiple QSO's). I was
using
either my MP-1 set up in my backyard or a multi band shortened 40-
10M
dipole mounted at 10' AGL.


Loop antenna

 

I remember an article some years back in PW that had a 2 merte loop
about 4 inches in diameter and it worked quite well.
Any one have a copy as I want to make a loop for 20metres for my
FT817. Any other ideas or perhaps we should have a group for portable
antennas.


Re: I thought this was an FT-817 group, not a Kenwood group...

theshadow
 

Its only a hobby you know

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian B. Riley, N1BQ" <n1bq@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 10:17 PM
Subject: RE: [FT817] Re: I thought this was an FT-817 group, not a Kenwood
group...



Lighten up ... there is some wrong on both sides ... but the better way
to have gone about it would have been to wait until a day or two had
gone by and then gently reminded the forum as a whole or the offending
individual specifically by back channel that it was an Yayhoo FT817
Forum. NOBODY likes a List Nazi, particularly a self-appointed one. We
drove one off QRP-L not all that long ago, and he was the the official
List Manager.

I should not have to remind you that you have no more rights here than
the author of the comments about the Kenwood radio. I also should not
need to point out that some discussion of a similar radio (small,
compact, capable of wide range of receive) can help understand the FT817
even better.

So ... chill ... adjust your prozac and enjoy your 817!

cheers ... bbr

-----Original Message-----
From: cmctavish1@... [mailto:cmctavish1@...]
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 13:57 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: [FT817] Re: I thought this was an FT-817 group, not a Kenwood
group...


Maybe you should watch your language...If we wanted Kenwood radios we
would have bought them, thus if I wanted to know about Kenwood radios
I would join their user group.

I don't have to think about this...If I join a FT-817 users group
then that is what I and I am sure others are primarily interested
in. If you are going to post like this why don't you change the name
and description of the group...If you notice in the upper left hand
side of this page it doesn't say anything about KENWOOD, but YAESU
specifically.


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USER REPORT: DX, ANTENNAS (MP-1), ETC!!! Long Post...

 

I have been using my FT817 for several weeks and wanted to post some
feedback to the group, especially with regard to my field trials of
the MP-1 antenna, etc.

My goal with the 817 is two fold: a QRP WAS and a QRP WAC, so my
comments and evaluation will come from that perspective.

This past weekend from my QTH in the SF Bay area I was able to work
the following states and DX: S.C*, AZ*, TX*, CO*, ME, OH, WA*, AR,
VK2*, VK3*, VK4*, ZL1, VE6, and VE7* (* multiple QSO's). I was using
either my MP-1 set up in my backyard or a multi band shortened 40-10M
dipole mounted at 10' AGL. ALL CONTACTS VIA SSB. I worked 40 / 20
and 15M.

Working a VK from my QTH is total of 7,845 miles, or 1500+ miles per
watt.

(***I just missed a ZF--he couldn't get my call correct so he didn't
go down in the log...next time.)

I worked the ZL1 and the Maine QSO on the same night!

In all cases the 10' high dipole greatly out performed the MP-1
regardless of band. I even tried the cardboard box trick that Vern
suggested to reduce hard coupling with the ground. I was using a
Z-11
tuner, however I was able to get a "no bar" SWR intication from the
817 by carefully hand tuning the loading coil with out the Z-11 on
all
bands I worked.

Signal reports were generally +S3 better with the dipole even at only
10'.

Feedback about the 817 was very consistent: Great audio. R/S reports
ranged from 5 /1 to 5 /9++. My recommendation for phone mode is to
be
very aware of the mic. gain levels..I needed to run at a setting of
"70" to get good deflection on the PWR meter on the 817. I received
no
reports of flat topping or over mod. on my audio with this setting,
however.

I made all my DX QSO's responding to CQ's or "tail ending" and logged
a total of 6 VK's that I contacted in one call to their CQ in about
90
min. Bagging DX on one call running QRP is absolutely thrilling.

Without exception Hams have been very supportive of my QRP efforts
and
more than once I received a call from others eager to really see if I
was just running 5 watts. BTW..The VK guys love to work a QRP QSO.

I plan to conduct a similar side by side test this weekend in
preperation for gettting my field day set up finalized. Right now
the
dipole is looking real good.

I have also been doing extensive testing of Mark Smith's RATS CAT
GUI.
I like this application a lot, more on RATS on another post. ( have
no financial affiliation with Kingsmith software, etc., etc...).

Like to hear about similar DX / WAS success from others.

Thanks in advance.

:harry


Re: I thought this was an FT-817 group, not a Kenwood group...

Pres Waterman
 

PLEASE KILL THE THREAD AND STOP COMMENTING

Thanks

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!

----- Original Message -----
From: theshadow <theshadow@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FT817] Re: I thought this was an FT-817 group, not a Kenwood
group...


Its only a hobby you know



----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian B. Riley, N1BQ" <n1bq@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 10:17 PM
Subject: RE: [FT817] Re: I thought this was an FT-817 group, not a Kenwood
group...



Lighten up ... there is some wrong on both sides ... but the better way
to have gone about it would have been to wait until a day or two had
gone by and then gently reminded the forum as a whole or the offending
individual specifically by back channel that it was an Yayhoo FT817
Forum. NOBODY likes a List Nazi, particularly a self-appointed one. We
drove one off QRP-L not all that long ago, and he was the the official
List Manager.

I should not have to remind you that you have no more rights here than
the author of the comments about the Kenwood radio. I also should not
need to point out that some discussion of a similar radio (small,
compact, capable of wide range of receive) can help understand the FT817
even better.

So ... chill ... adjust your prozac and enjoy your 817!

cheers ... bbr

-----Original Message-----
From: cmctavish1@... [mailto:cmctavish1@...]
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 13:57 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: [FT817] Re: I thought this was an FT-817 group, not a Kenwood
group...


Maybe you should watch your language...If we wanted Kenwood radios we
would have bought them, thus if I wanted to know about Kenwood radios
I would join their user group.

I don't have to think about this...If I join a FT-817 users group
then that is what I and I am sure others are primarily interested
in. If you are going to post like this why don't you change the name
and description of the group...If you notice in the upper left hand
side of this page it doesn't say anything about KENWOOD, but YAESU
specifically.


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Re: Antennas

theshadow
 

I use Moonraker Ampro's (Dunno where they got the name). Only because they
use hollow fibreglass Rods and the ants are lighter. I have had sucess with
20m and 10m dipole using the whips but on 40 the band width is too narrow to
be of use. I find I get better results using a small spike in the ground to
a stud mount and tuning against the natural ground. I also got a Mizuho 40m
whip at the weekend it works quite well with minimum counter poise.

Chris Taylor
G0WTZ

----- Original Message -----
From: <julian@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 10:00 PM
Subject: [FT817] Re: Antennas


For those with an ATU a cheaper and probably lighter solution (the
Pro-Ams are quite heavy) might be to use plain old aluminium tubing.
You could use three different diameters that fit one inside another
so it would telescope up for transportation, and secure them with
jubilee clips.

Is it possible to buy aluminium tubing by the metre anywhere?

Julian, G4ILO

--- In FT817@y..., Trevor Lewis <tlewis@p...> wrote:

it would be interesting to see what a pair of ATXs or MP-1s put
together as
a portable dipole in this kind of an arrangement would do if two
folks put
theirs together [I haven't yet mustered the $ for my first of
either the ATX
or MP-1; two would be lots of dough!]

if sag was a concern given length/ weight, perhaps the center
mounting
flange could be mounted part way up a fiberglass pole, with "upside
down
guys" then extending from the top of the pole out to the ends of the
horizontal elements?


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Re: Best Price FT-817 at Dayton Hamvention?

Brian B. Riley, N1BQ
 

-----Original Message-----
From: n6tqs@... [mailto:n6tqs@...]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:05 AM
[snip]

BTW, I think the Kenwood HT is likely to be of interest to some people
in this group, partially because it includes wide-band ALL-MODE
reception. Who knows how good it'll be on 20M SSB, but the capability
is there. An FT-817 and the Kenwood might be useable for full-duplex
satellite ops, in a very small package.
This was exactly the idea I have been entertaining ... and I was quite
glad that I found out about it first from this Yaesu Forum ...


Re: InRad 300Hz CW Filter

 

I started with the 300 but it was too narrow. Inrad was great in
sending me the 500 before I could slap postage on the return package.

--- In FT817@y..., ka5y@a... wrote:
Looking for comments on the 300Hz filter, fix'n to buy and
undecided
on the 300 vs 500Hz??????

73
Paul
KA5Y


Re: I thought this was an FT-817 group, not a Kenwood group...

Brian B. Riley, N1BQ
 

Lighten up ... there is some wrong on both sides ... but the better way
to have gone about it would have been to wait until a day or two had
gone by and then gently reminded the forum as a whole or the offending
individual specifically by back channel that it was an Yayhoo FT817
Forum. NOBODY likes a List Nazi, particularly a self-appointed one. We
drove one off QRP-L not all that long ago, and he was the the official
List Manager.

I should not have to remind you that you have no more rights here than
the author of the comments about the Kenwood radio. I also should not
need to point out that some discussion of a similar radio (small,
compact, capable of wide range of receive) can help understand the FT817
even better.

So ... chill ... adjust your prozac and enjoy your 817!

cheers ... bbr

-----Original Message-----
From: cmctavish1@... [mailto:cmctavish1@...]
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 13:57 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: [FT817] Re: I thought this was an FT-817 group, not a Kenwood
group...


Maybe you should watch your language...If we wanted Kenwood radios we
would have bought them, thus if I wanted to know about Kenwood radios
I would join their user group.

I don't have to think about this...If I join a FT-817 users group
then that is what I and I am sure others are primarily interested
in. If you are going to post like this why don't you change the name
and description of the group...If you notice in the upper left hand
side of this page it doesn't say anything about KENWOOD, but YAESU
specifically.


Re: Repeater Offset shows both -+ ??

 

I believe this is the case when you have programmed the radio using the same
method you would use for split band operation. I have not tried it with the
817, but my FT-2500M does that using the same method to operate for the ISS
digipeater.


Re: FTBasic/817/Kenwood users

 

John,

The idea of an additional 'description' field of say 25 characters
has already been suggested by David Henn. I am pondering on the
best way to implement this, and the current thoughts are to have
a .CSV file automatically created with each .817 file, and some-
how keep the two in step - that's the bit I haven't yet decided
upon, but will get there in the end.

Bob G4HFQ


Making my own Heil adapter

 

I picked up a Heil BM-10 for hands-free operation but decided to make
my own mic adapter rather than pay extra bucks for Heil's version.
I'm not sure which pins to connect and would like some
clarification. Does the Heil plug tip go to +5 and the ring go to
ground? Also, for PTT I'm assuming I would place a switch between
that line and ground?

I've check the message archives and files area but couldn't find any
good confirmation on my assumptions.

Thanks and 73. KB0LUR, Paul


Re: FTBasic/817/Kenwood users

 

--- In FT817@y..., "Newell, John O" <jnewell@g...> wrote:
I have posted V1.4.601 of FTBasic at
Bob, this is great

A solution would be to add another (11th?) column
for a longer descriptive tag...
Tnx es 73
John Newell
Hi John,,

I have also put this suggestion into Bob..
Not only for the KW6 vs FT8 tags reason..
But so I can remember what and why did I put this in for.?

Rgds
David


Re: FTBasic/817/Kenwood users

Newell, John O
 

I have posted V1.4.601 of FTBasic at
Bob, this is great! I spent some time this weekend fiddling with this (one
of the harmonics and I use KW HTs) and this works so quickly and easily that
it's almost a miracle! <g> The files go into and out of the two formats
like a breeze.

The only thing that strikes me (it is a "fault" of the KW HT) is that the
KW's 6-character alpha-numeric tags are kinda cryptic, even to the person
who set them up. Obviously, to go back and forth into/out of the 817, they
need to stay as 6 (not that 8 characters is exactly a new horizon in
identification, either!). This may be a practical limitation on the ability
to use files uploaded by another operator. A solution would be to add
another (11th?) column for a longer descriptive tag...since neither the KW
nor the Yaesu could read this data, it would have to be stripped off going
into the (either) radio's "native" format...and, I guess, be reattached by
the FTBasic software. Ummm, sounds like more bother than it's worth,
probably... <?>

Many tnx for your continuing product improvements. FTBasic is probably the
best $15 I ever spent!

Tnx es 73
John Newell
KB1FPM
































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Re: FTBasic/817/Kenwood users

 

--- In FT817@y..., bob.freeth@d... wrote:
I have posted V1.4.601 of FTBasic at

Hi Bob,,

This is outstanding..
I wish other vendors/suppliers where this customer focused.

But Bob,,
There is one problem. You are just to quick,
You are not even giving us enough time to think of new things :-)

Great Work.
Thanks from me, and on behalf of the rest of the group.

Best Rgds
David


FTBasic/817/Kenwood users

 

I have posted V1.4.601 of FTBasic at



which includes a Convert facility for those of you with Kenwood
rigs TH-G71A, TH-D7A(G) and TM-D700A. The Kenwood memories files
look very similar, and other VHF/UHF rigs's files may work as
well.

What the new mod does is to convert the memory parts of the
Kenwood file into a CSV file that includes the FTBasic header
record, decimal points in the right places for frequencies/
offsets, decodes CTCSS and DCS indicators etc. All you have
to do is to check that your frequencies are valid for the
817, and if not then edit them in a spreadsheet or text
editor.

If anyone has problems then mail me direct for fastest
resolution.

Bob G4HFQ

P.S. yesterday evening (evening in the UK) I had a dud copy
of this release up on the web for about 3 hours until I noticed
the glitch. If anyone downloaded a dud then another go will
probably get you going - you only need the ftb14601ex.exe file.
Sorry for that.


Re: Dayton News

 

I got mine from the 'actual' MFJ booth. They had a box full of 'em.

Tom, KC5UN

--- In FT817@y..., n1evh@a... wrote:
HRO had FT817's for $669 at Dayton, and most dealers matched their
price.

ATX's sold out fast, and MP-1's were $160. Palm keys were getting in
short supply. Everybody had lots of Maldol antennas.
Which dealers were selling the ATX antennas??? I thought those were
only available thru UK dealers. I've been considering the Maldol line of
antennas as well.

Mike - N1EVH
n1evh@a...





Re: Best Price FT-817 at Dayton Hamvention?

Pres Waterman
 

BTW, I think the Kenwood HT is likely to be of interest to some people
in this group, partially because it includes wide-band ALL-MODE
reception. Who knows how good it'll be on 20M SSB, but the capability
is there. An FT-817 and the Kenwood might be useable for full-duplex
satellite ops, in a very small package.

Good answer, I'll allow it!

( besides you get 220... think of it as a dinghy- you can tote it off to the
store when you are camping, and get an update on what the partner wants )

Thanks

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!


Re: Which Performs Better: ATX or MP-1?

David Perry
 


I have "heard" that at even QRP levels the FT817 is capable of clearing
out a
Marriott using the fire alarm system on 12M.

Now *that's* a hoot waiting to be had! reminds me of the early days of 70cm
and car alarms in the UK, ha, ha, ha.

David