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Re: Output power

Very cheap fix if DIY,

Dave

On Thu, 13 Oct 2022, 22:03 Douglas Richards, <ve3ffr@...> wrote:

Afternoon?

Name here is Douglas Richards VE3FFR?

I just recently purchased my Ft-817, and after charging the battery I was able to test the output? power.?

Vhf approximately 5-6 watts
Uhf approximately 3-4 watts
Hf and 6m, non existence.

According to my serial number? research,?
my rig was made in 2000, September, lot 81 and the 0028 unit made.?
Any suggestions? greatly appreciated.?

Thank you

73

Douglas Richards VE3FFR?
ve3ffr@...?

Re: Output power

#113187

You should get one in your country, no need to get one from Germany,

Dave

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On Thu, 13 Oct 2022, 22:49 Petr Ourednik, <indians@...> wrote:

Petr

Re: Output power

#113186

Petr

Re: Output power

#113185

Yes I would, that is probably the only one you can get now, get direct from yaesu

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On Thu, 13 Oct 2022, 22:46 Douglas Richards, <ve3ffr@...> wrote:

Thank you

Should I? upgrade to the newer version?
My model is 22 years old.?
Douglas?
On Oct. 13, 2022 at 5:41 p.m., davebb123456 <davidbrowne76@...> wrote:

Hi I would say you need a new final unit, when this happens with output on VHF and UHF , it is only one of the tranny's is dead , but it is easier to change the final unit,
Dave 2E0DMB
On Thu, 13 Oct 2022, 22:17 Douglas Richards, <ve3ffr@...> wrote:
All antennas are on the rear.
Douglas?
On Oct. 13, 2022 at 5:15 p.m., mick smith <michael.newbury@...> wrote:

You might want to check the antenna selection for HF, it can be selected either for front ant or rear ant, if your using the wrong one you wont get any output as the radio will fold back power.

Mick SA4MDN

Re: Output power

Douglas Richards

#113184

Thank you

Should I? upgrade to the newer version?

My model is 22 years old.?

Douglas?

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On Oct. 13, 2022 at 5:41 p.m., davebb123456 <davidbrowne76@...> wrote:

Hi I would say you need a new final unit, when this happens with output on VHF and UHF , it is only one of the tranny's is dead , but it is easier to change the final unit,
Dave 2E0DMB
On Thu, 13 Oct 2022, 22:17 Douglas Richards, <ve3ffr@...> wrote:
All antennas are on the rear.
Douglas?
On Oct. 13, 2022 at 5:15 p.m., mick smith <michael.newbury@...> wrote:

You might want to check the antenna selection for HF, it can be selected either for front ant or rear ant, if your using the wrong one you wont get any output as the radio will fold back power.

Mick SA4MDN

Re: Output power

#113183

Hi I would say you need a new final unit, when this happens with output on VHF and UHF , it is only one of the tranny's is dead , but it is easier to change the final unit,

Dave 2E0DMB

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On Thu, 13 Oct 2022, 22:17 Douglas Richards, <ve3ffr@...> wrote:

All antennas are on the rear.
Douglas?
On Oct. 13, 2022 at 5:15 p.m., mick smith <michael.newbury@...> wrote:

You might want to check the antenna selection for HF, it can be selected either for front ant or rear ant, if your using the wrong one you wont get any output as the radio will fold back power.

Mick SA4MDN

Re: Output power

Douglas Richards

#113182

All antennas are on the rear.

Douglas?

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On Oct. 13, 2022 at 5:15 p.m., mick smith <michael.newbury@...> wrote:

You might want to check the antenna selection for HF, it can be selected either for front ant or rear ant, if your using the wrong one you wont get any output as the radio will fold back power.

Mick SA4MDN

Re: Output power

#113181

You might want to check the antenna selection for HF, it can be selected either for front ant or rear ant, if your using the wrong one you wont get any output as the radio will fold back power.

Mick SA4MDN

Re: FT-818 group invitation

#113180

Hi Petr,
As you know this group has and needs very little moderation or censorship but as your topic has now been drawn to a conclusion and to avoid any further discussion it's now locked for your benefit.
Regards
Martyn.
[email protected]

Output power

Douglas Richards

#113179

Afternoon?

Name here is Douglas Richards VE3FFR?

I just recently purchased my Ft-817, and after charging the battery I was able to test the output? power.?

Vhf approximately 5-6 watts

Uhf approximately 3-4 watts

Hf and 6m, non existence.

According to my serial number? research,?

my rig was made in 2000, September, lot 81 and the 0028 unit made.?

Any suggestions? greatly appreciated.?

Thank you

Douglas Richards VE3FFR?

ve3ffr@...?

Re: Chinese FT-817 TCXO?

#113178

It sounds like some are worse than others.? I will have to see one.? Purchased one from Amazon.? If it is noisy, I can return it.

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On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 1:16 PM Petr Ourednik <indians@...> wrote:

Chris,

OEM units been changed over years. See my preview post in this topic.?

Still available but changed layout and parts from 2018 in production…

Somewhere on the internet can be found lab measurement and comparison of Yaesu and Chinese units. Mainly phase noise was not good on the Chinese one if I remember well.?

I will try to find it again and share it.?

73 - Petr, OK1RP

Thanks,
Chris Maness
-Sent from my iPhone

Re: Chinese FT-817 TCXO?

#113177

Chris,

OEM units been changed over years. See my preview post in this topic.?

Still available but changed layout and parts from 2018 in production…

Somewhere on the internet can be found lab measurement and comparison of Yaesu and Chinese units. Mainly phase noise was not good on the Chinese one if I remember well.?

I will try to find it again and share it.?

73 - Petr, OK1RP

Re: Chinese FT-817 TCXO?

#113176

Thank you Steve, that is the information I was looking for.  I was
wondering if there were some variations between samples of these
Chinese TCXOs to see if it was worth bothering with.  I have no issues
with the stock local oscillator, but if I ever wanted to do WSPR on 2m
or something it could be problematic.  So it sounded like a cheap
upgrade.  The "OEM" ones that people have posted here look a little
different than the OEM ones I have seen in images online.  Maybe Yaesu
changed up their parts on them, and I don't see the maker stamp Yaesu
on them either.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 12:20 PM Steve Sawicki via groups.io
<ab2et@...> wrote:

Good Day Chris,  In Part Of Your Statement You Indicated "that they increase the noise floor on the receive" Do You Actually Have The Comparison Information
I Have a Original FT-817 and a FT-817ND That Have (4 year old) Chinese FT-817 TCXO installed thus I Am Not able to make the comparison to a "Factory TXCO". I Did restore back to the original factory stock unit in my FT-817ND and did some "comparison" sound testing on 20M-15M-10M  lasting some 4 hours (using a HP O-Scope) and Could Not See Any Additional Noise Difference with the Chinese FT-817 TCXO, So Back IN.
Can the noise be With the More Recent TCXO's due to product quality?
A point of Interest and Information for any one using the China LiON Battery Packs, A few local hams have reported that they have heard "birdies" from the Packs since the individual cells have "rudimentary" controllers that are active when in use,Nothing Big but a bit annoying , no "Birdies" when switching back to NiMH Packs.
Best Regards.
Steve AB2ET/4


-- 
Thanks,
Chris Maness

Re: FT-818 group invitation

#113175

I do not want to read all of this addressed to me.?

It is more bothersome and time wasting that the new group itself.

I meant well, but it was a bad idea evidently.
New group is deleted.
Problem solved.
Thread can be ended.

Good luck!
73 - Petr, OK1RP

Re: FT-818 group invitation

Chuck Cole K4TZO

#113174

The principal reason for another group is often just an ego trip for someone wanting to be "moderator" and find their name in print.

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On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 2:30 PM Ron Wright via <lt_wright_flg=[email protected]> wrote:

I can see why there might be a need for a separate FT818 vs the FT817 group.? There are differences and there could be issues in one rig and not the other.

But I do find there is little need for multiple groups for same rig.? Best to have all in one group.? Only reason I would go to another same rig group is the moderator issues.? Some moderators tend to sensor things that dont matter.? I dont find this issue here.

73, ron, n9ee/r

Ron Wright, N9EE/R
Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...

On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 02:10:13 PM EDT, Ken N2VIP <ken@...> wrote:

I'm a member of a bunch of groups, and occasionally a member or two will complain about the decisions the moderators/administrators/etc make regarding certain threads, topics, etc and declare their intention to break free of this 'tyranny' (my word) and build their own group. I saw this in the invitation:

"Uncensored, unmoderated group for Yaesu FT-818 radio enthusiasts"

I read that and assume that is the motivation here.

If I may, allow me to share the following XKCD cartoon that expresses my thoughts:

Just swap "email lists" for "standards"

Ken, N2VIP

On Oct 11, 2022, at 15:47, Jeffrey Benedict <raoul@...> wrote:

?How is this new group different from the current group?? There is minimal difference between the 817 and 818.? Why would I want to join your group?

Jeff K7AIL

Re: Chinese FT-817 TCXO?

#113173

Good Day Chris,? In Part Of Your Statement You Indicated "that they increase the noise floor on the receive" Do You Actually Have The Comparison Information
I Have a Original FT-817 and a FT-817ND That Have (4 year old) Chinese FT-817 TCXO installed thus I Am Not able to make the comparison to a "Factory TXCO". I Did restore back to the original factory stock unit in my FT-817ND and did some "comparison" sound testing on 20M-15M-10M? lasting some 4 hours (using a HP O-Scope) and Could Not See Any Additional Noise Difference with the Chinese FT-817 TCXO, So Back IN.
Can the noise be With the More Recent TCXO's due to product quality?
A point of Interest and Information for any one using the China LiON Battery Packs, A few local hams have reported that they have heard "birdies" from the Packs since the individual cells have "rudimentary" controllers that are active when in use,Nothing Big but a bit annoying , no "Birdies" when switching back to NiMH Packs. ? ??
Best Regards.
Steve AB2ET/4

Re: FT-818 group invitation

#113172

Ron,
its not that case for sure. I never had any issue over here. This group is nice, honest and polite!
No problem at all!
73 - Petr, OK1RP

Re: FT-818 group invitation

#113171

I can see why there might be a need for a separate FT818 vs the FT817 group.? There are differences and there could be issues in one rig and not the other.

But I do find there is little need for multiple groups for same rig.? Best to have all in one group.? Only reason I would go to another same rig group is the moderator issues.? Some moderators tend to sensor things that dont matter.? I dont find this issue here.

73, ron, n9ee/r

Ron Wright, N9EE/R

Hernando Co ARES EC

Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...

On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 02:10:13 PM EDT, Ken N2VIP <ken@...> wrote:

I'm a member of a bunch of groups.io groups, and occasionally a member or two will complain about the decisions the moderators/administrators/etc make regarding certain threads, topics, etc and declare their intention to break free of this 'tyranny' (my word) and build their own group. I saw this in the invitation:

"Uncensored, unmoderated group for Yaesu FT-818 radio enthusiasts"

I read that and assume that is the motivation here.

If I may, allow me to share the following XKCD cartoon that expresses my thoughts:

Just swap "email lists" for "standards"

Ken, N2VIP

On Oct 11, 2022, at 15:47, Jeffrey Benedict <raoul@...> wrote:

?How is this new group different from the current group? ?There is minimal difference between the 817 and 818. ?Why would I want to join your group?

Jeff K7AIL

Re: FT-818 group invitation

#113170

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"Uncensored, unmoderated group for Yaesu FT-818 radio enthusiasts"

I read that and assume that is the motivation here.

If I may, allow me to share the following XKCD cartoon that expresses my thoughts:

Just swap "email lists" for "standards"

Ken, N2VIP

On Oct 11, 2022, at 15:47, Jeffrey Benedict <raoul@...> wrote:

?How is this new group different from the current group? ?There is minimal difference between the 817 and 818. ?Why would I want to join your group?

Jeff K7AIL

Re: Beginner's Guide to HF Operating Live Online Tonight

#113169

Beginner's Guide to HF- watch week 1 recording- .

Join us for weeks 2 & 3 live Oct 19 & 26-

Zoom link-

Passcode: WEDNESDAY

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On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 6:10 PM Anthony Luscre <k8zt73@...> wrote:

Beginner's Guide to HF Operating

Co-presenters Dennis Kidder, W6DQ and Anthony Luscre, K8ZT, present a series of three sessions covering aspects of getting on HF for new hams. The sessions will be held live via Zoom on three consecutive Wednesdays- Oct 12, 19 & 26th at 9 PM Eastern / 6 PM Pacific / 01:00 UTC (Thur.)

Zoom link- Passcode: WEDNESDAY The sessions will also be recorded for later viewing: Week 1- The HF Bands, Operating & Making Contacts Week 2- Equipment & Antennas Week 3- Putting It All Together Slideshow from the presentations, including clickable links and resources, is available at .

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K8ZT
Ohio Section Section Youth Coordinator & Education Outreach
ARRL - The National Association For Amateur Radio?
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K8ZT

Ohio Section Section Youth Coordinator & Education Outreach

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