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probably roll my own.
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Hi Randall:
This is a case where the solution is to cut the cable that feeds the rig,
and install a PP connector. ? And... you can install a PP connector on the
piece you cut off, so as to make a cable adapter that will restore the original
plug's capability. ?Don't forget to double check the polarity of the leads
inside the cable. ?And check again.
73 de Ray
K2ULR
FN20kg
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Message----- From: 'Randall' N0UTJ@... [FT817]
To: FT817
Sent: Fri, Apr 19, 2019 4:17 pm Subject: RE:
[FT817] Re: Power pole adapter
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Does anyone make a Power Pole adapter for the MFJ-1317 switching power supply
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Tried searching, didn't find anything.
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thanks
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Randall
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Mike,?
I have the mfj power
supply. Same problem.band I use it for 2 different purposes
John,
I could be a beta tester.
? Otherwise it be next month when I get my disability check. (Hence the reason
for a prefab cable)
Randy ka4nma
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I will
probably roll my own.
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I can
buy a pigtail with a female 1.7 x 4mm socket and add a PP to
it.
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Randall
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Hi Randall:
This is a case where the solution is to cut the cable that feeds the rig,
and install a PP connector. ? And... you can install a PP connector on the
piece you cut off, so as to make a cable adapter that will restore the original
plug's capability. ?Don't forget to double check the polarity of the leads
inside the cable. ?And check again.
73 de Ray
K2ULR
FN20kg
-----Original
Message----- From: 'Randall' N0UTJ@... [FT817]
To: FT817
Sent: Fri, Apr 19, 2019 4:17 pm Subject: RE:
[FT817] Re: Power pole adapter
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Does anyone make a Power Pole adapter for the MFJ-1317 switching power supply
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Tried searching, didn't find anything.
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thanks
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Randall
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Mike,?
I have the mfj power
supply. Same problem.band I use it for 2 different purposes
John,
I could be a beta tester.
? Otherwise it be next month when I get my disability check. (Hence the reason
for a prefab cable)
Randy ka4nma
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Hi Randall:
This is a case where the solution is to cut the cable that feeds the rig, and install a PP connector. ? And... you can install a PP connector on the piece you cut off, so as to make a cable adapter that will restore the original plug's capability. ?Don't forget to double check the polarity of the leads inside the cable. ?And check again.
73 de Ray
K2ULR
FN20kg
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From: 'Randall' N0UTJ@... [FT817]
To: FT817
Sent: Fri, Apr 19, 2019 4:17 pm
Subject: RE: [FT817] Re: Power pole adapter
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Does
anyone make a Power Pole adapter for the MFJ-1317 switching power supply
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Tried
searching, didn't find anything.
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thanks
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Randall
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Mike,?
I have the mfj power
supply. Same problem.band I use it for 2 different purposes
John,
I could be a beta tester.
? Otherwise it be next month when I get my disability check. (Hence the reason
for a prefab cable)
Randy ka4nma
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Does
anyone make a Power Pole adapter for the MFJ-1317 switching power supply
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?
Tried
searching, didn't find anything.
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thanks
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Randall
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Mike,?
I have the mfj power
supply. Same problem.band I use it for 2 different purposes
John,
I could be a beta tester.
? Otherwise it be next month when I get my disability check. (Hence the reason
for a prefab cable)
Randy ka4nma
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CW operation using the U5 LINK
My CW setup using the U5 link attachment:
It's handy but if you use it for CW and connect it to the rig you have no place for a key or paddle.?
I tried an audio Y cable and it works great!
Second if you love CW but have lost your magic touch like me, Google the MRP40 code decoder program.
It ain't free, but neither was your radio! It's well worth the $.
The features are almost unlimited.
I think you can do CW without knowing the code.
Please no smart cracks from the CW 'experts', you might lose your touch when you get old like me. But some don't!
Heading to the QRP contest tomorrow. 0800-1800 LOCAL TIME.
Info on
73 Bo W4GHV since '54
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Re: improved anderson connector
Google for:?yaesu ft-817 anderson powerpole adapter And you’ll get a bunch of results/vendors, including one you can 3D print.
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Didn't someone come up with an improved version that allowed both the original and Anderson connectors to be used? Bo W4GHV
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The 3d printed adapter being sold on ebay is what i use now
but after having owned 7 if these little beasts I have never had any connector issues and my windcamp battery works great after 6 years on my current ND model I have had the day it came out
my first one i bought the day it came (non-ND) out did blow the finals?
John ve3ips
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Running a FT817 using 28W of solar, Charge controller to match the battery, and a 12AH lithium is a good match up.
I run mine with an 11 Ah pack, and 20W panel and a charge controller to match the battery.? This? runs well enough that low battery is not an issue as the solar panel has enough output to charge? the battery during receive and substantially offset TX drain. I tried 40W but it was much more than? needed for charge rate and weight.? ?The sweet spot is likely around 28-32W assuming FT817, a? higher?drain radio would alter that.
I run larger radio 100W (Tentec Eagle or Tentex 6n2+ 100W amps) using 70W of panels and? a pair of 33AH AGM batteries?for Field Day.? In that case 100 W or more is desired.
In both cases excess solar will make up for cloudy days and insure fast recharge.? The price is? of course cost and weight.? ?Biggest thing is not to exceed battery charge rate or max voltage? as its bad for?any battery.
Allison
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It primarily depends on how fast you want to charge the battery. The climate wherever you operate can also be a factor in that you need enough sunlight to capture energy. A lot of cloudy days translates to a slower charge rate. Your operating time is of course a consideration, as is the transmit to receive time ratio.
Then theres the budget along with what physical dimensions youre willing to work with.
??? My system is on the modest side with a 30 watt panel, 7 ah sla,? and a Tractor Supply controller. I might benefit some with a 12 ah battery such as yours, and in that case id want at least a 50 watt panel. My 30 watt panel puts out 1.8 amps in full sun. A 50 watt panel should thus be capable of ~ 3 amps unless theres been a significant change in manufacturing process, in which case it might put out more. Upsizing anything in your system cant hurt, electrically speaking alone. It all has a price tag in terms of your pocket depth and how portable you want to be however.
?? Let us know what you wind up with and how its doing. JMHO, YMMV, FWIW, etc.
Best,
Sonny n1khb
On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 Tom Vaughan twvaughan <FT817@...> wrote:
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I was wondering what kind of solar charger everyone uses for Bioenno batteries. I am considering a 12A battery and would like to charge it using solar power during field operations.
Thanks,? Tom
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Tom, I have the BioEnno 28 & 120 w solar panels. ?They are heavier than some but are a pretty high efficiency compared to the stuff like Harbor freight.?
I like the Budipole Power mini for use with either set. If I’m running solar, AC charger and using these to keep the battery topped up for the big radio, I add the West Mountsin Epic PWR gate.?
For simple field use, the 12 ?-15 ah battery and pwr mini work great. The new PM has a usb charge port as well.?
There are some light weight thin film flexible 25-28w military grade panels, but they are 5-10x more and 2x the size opened up.?
Good luck.?
73 W4DBL
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I was wondering what kind of solar charger everyone uses for Bioenno batteries. I am considering a 12A battery and would like to charge it using solar power during field operations.
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I was wondering what kind of solar charger everyone uses for Bioenno batteries. I am considering a 12A battery and would like to charge it using solar power during field operations.
Thanks,? Tom
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The Power pole adapter product in EBAY is my item/design...so it's available if u need it.
Ancel
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Mike,?I have the mfj power supply. Same problem.band I use it for 2 different purposes
John, I could be a beta tester. ? Otherwise it be next month when I get my disability check. (Hence the reason for a prefab cable) Randy ka4nma
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Believe it or not Randy,
With over 3,500 adapters sold over the past 2 years, you are the
very first person to ask for this.? But I will investigate it and
hopefully do a short run.?
But it won't be cheap!? Expect to pay at least $20 with postage,
because it will require skilled fabrication and testing that is
labor intensive.? Are you willing to pay that much?
jon N0WL
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I have the pp for a ft817 power jack. I do
not want to cut any cables. I am looking for an adapter
pigtail so I can continue to use the charger. Can someone
help me out?
Randy ka4nma
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Best of luck brother. There is nothing like the FT-817 for pure ALL-BAND and ALL-MODE operation. NOTHING!
Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC.
El Paso, Texas - DM61rt.
SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.
NA-SOTA info is at: <>
From: FT817@... <FT817@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 12:44 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: [FT817] Re: battery pack
thanks to every one for their help, i am going down the power pole route with an external battery, which battery type i'm not sure still reading about that as well as taking in what you guys have said, thanks, steve, m6ndq
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I have the pp for a ft817 power jack. I do
not want to cut any cables. I am looking for an adapter
pigtail so I can continue to use the charger. Can someone
help me out?
Randy ka4nma
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thanks to every one for their help, i am going down the power pole route with an external battery, which battery type i'm not sure still reading about that as well as taking in what you guys have said, thanks, steve, m6ndq
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Yeah - I am pretty good at figuring solar/battery. I have 2 kW of solar for
the emergency power here. And at work I control 110 MW (not a typo, 110
MEGA-watts) of solar.
Just as a note, my personal FT-817 runs about 800 mAh in average use.
Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC.
El Paso, Texas - DM61rt.
SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.
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-----Original Message----- From: FT817@... <FT817@...> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:02 AM To: FT817@... Subject: Re: [FT817] battery pack I like the Bioenno batteries, I think their prices are on the high-end of reasonable, but my 20 amp battery works great. To size the battery, you need to know how you are going to use the radio and how long you want to use it. For example, let's say the radio uses 3 amps transmitting, 1 amp receiving. A use case of 50% transmitting, 50% receiving would put you at 2 amp/hr usage.* Now that you know consumption, you need to multiply that average times the number of hours you want to operate between charges. Let's say 7-8 hours - that's a lot of operating between charges. So that points to a 15 amp battery to give you 7-8 hours usage between charges. You could step down to a 12 amp battery if you add a modest solar charger to the mix as Joseph described. I hope that helps, Ken, N2VIP * my power consumption numbers are NOT FT-817/818 numbers, they are made up for simple math. On Apr 16, 2019, at 12:50 AM, Joseph Wonoski N1KHB@... [FT817] <FT817@...> wrote:
Personally, for operations where I am not backpacking, I have a 25 w solar
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Great idea with MFJ1317.? Never had any problems with Windcamps either. I made a 3" pigtail PP to PP to plug into the PP adapter in DC-in. Maybe redundant but eliminates any strain altogether. Portable Zero sells a nice protective case that comes with external charger for the Bioenno 12AH battery. Rich W1GBB
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AFAIK, there is no available store-bought adapter cable. If you’re determined to go in this direction, you’ll have to make an adapter cable yourself. Parts are available from several sources, any of the big outfits like Newark or Mouser will have what you need. You’ll need a 1.7mm x 4mm female jack, in-line preferred over panel-mount, some sort of wire, and a 2-pole Power Pole set.
To the guys building and selling the Power Pole jack adapter, here’s another nitch market to consider. Not sure it would be popular enough to sell, but here’s one sale….. ADAPTER CABLE.
If this isn’t a solution for you, you can look for a similar wall wart power supply. Anything at 12 to 15 V with 500 mA (1/2-amp) output will do. I probably have 3 like that in my junk box. Chop off the end and install a Power Pole.
Was it me, I wouldn’t bother with the stock charger. I’d pick up an MFJ-1317 power supply. It is 13.8 VDC @ 2.89 A, and pretty much noise free. It has enough power to use the radio in both RX and TX, and still charge the battery. The stock charger cannot even run the radio in RX and charge it at the same time. Size – it is a little more than 2X the original charger. I have two of these MFJ-1317s, one for each of my FT-817s. Both have Anderson Power Poles on them, and I take them whenever I travel (except backpacking). You can spend twice as much on other supplies, but this one is good enough and that’s all that matters.
https://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-1317
The last possibility is to remove the Power Pole adapter for charging. That is something I would not do. But with care, you could probably get away with it and not cause any troubles with the jack failure.
Good luck, whatever you decide.
Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC.
El Paso, Texas - DM61rt.
SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.
NA-SOTA info is at: <http://na-sota.org/> http://na-sota.org/
From: FT817@... <FT817@...>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 22:41 PM
To: ft817@...
Subject: [FT817] Power pole adapter
I have the pp for a ft817 power jack. I do not want to cut any cables. I am looking for an adapter pigtail so I can continue to use the charger. Can someone help me out?
Randy ka4nma
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I like the Bioenno batteries, I think their prices are on the high-end of reasonable, but my 20 amp battery works great.
To size the battery, you need to know how you are going to use the radio and how long you want to use it. For example, let's say the radio uses 3 amps transmitting, 1 amp receiving. A use case of 50% transmitting, 50% receiving would put you at 2 amp/hr usage.*
Now that you know consumption, you need to multiply that average times the number of hours you want to operate between charges. Let's say 7-8 hours - that's a lot of operating between charges. So that points to a 15 amp battery to give you 7-8 hours usage between charges. You could step down to a 12 amp battery if you add a modest solar charger to the mix as Joseph described.
I hope that helps,
Ken, N2VIP
* my power consumption numbers are NOT FT-817/818 numbers, they are made up for simple math.
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On Apr 16, 2019, at 12:50 AM, Joseph Wonoski N1KHB@... [FT817] <FT817@...> wrote:
Personally, for operations where I am not backpacking, I have a 25 w solar panel and a 12v 12A SLAB to power my FT-817, for Field Day like ops.
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Doug Lynch NNJ4EM
Doug W1DMH