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Parallel Guide for Hammer K3 mk3

Lourens Pretorius Member Profile All Messages By This Member #128992 开云体育 In South Africa, I’m even worse off currency wise than you guys in Australia but I bit the bullet and purchased Brian Lamb’s DRO flipstop, parallel fence and precision square for use on my KF700. The repeatable accuracy of cuts I’m achieving is well worth the cost and very satisfying. Thanks again Brian. ? Sent from for Windows ? From: chrjparks@... Sent: Saturday, 04 March 2023 01:30 Subject: Re: [FOG] Parallel Guide for Hammer K3 mk3 ? Unfortunately buying Brian's version is not feasible for us in Oz due to the huge price we have to pay for the freight and dollar conversion rates and as nice as they are I for one can't justify the end price. I have bought two DRO's from China and the magnetic tapes fit under the standard tape on the cross cut fence so the visual appearance and reading against the cursor is not affected. I am lucky enough to have two cross cut fences as well and a length of 2040/60 between them does the job. There is a lot of things available in the US we simply do not have access to due to the end price after importing so we have to make do. I would think that importing Brian's parallel guides would add at least 50% to the dollar figure they are sold for in the US.? ? 2565A691EC994D70A806C89E7A310F05.png
Derek Cohen All Messages By This Member #129002 I’m so very pleased for you Lourens. Your KF700 costs about four times my K3. Clearly, you have more discretional spending available than I, or your priorities are different.? I don’t understand the sentiments expressed my some members here. There is no “wow Derek, that is creative and I want to make it myself”. Instead, “you should rather have bitten the bullet and purchased Brian’s jig … because I did”. Do members here just want to purchase the accessories for their machines? Lourens, kan je onthou nie ‘n ou Springbok Radio program, ‘苍?Boer Maak ‘n Plan?? Regards from Perth Derek
David Luckensmeyer All Messages By This Member #129003 开云体育 Hi Derek: I thought I expressed that sentiment? Apologies if I wasn’t clear enough. I like your fixture a lot, particularly as we both do a lot of solid wood projects and use hand tools. I’m grateful for your extra explanations of the what and how of your solution. I’m thinking about making my own solution along similar lines.? However, this is a forum. People expressed their views about buying rather than making. Some agreed and some disagreed. I don’t think there was any intention to express rudeness? Just robust views.? Greetings from Brisbane. ? Lucky toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Derek Cohen <derekcohen@...> Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 10:12:36 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Parallel Guide for Hammer K3 mk3 ? I’m so very pleased for you Lourens. Your KF700 costs about four times my K3. Clearly, you have more discretional spending available than I, or your priorities are different.? I don’t understand the sentiments expressed my some members here. There is no “wow Derek, that is creative and I want to make it myself”. Instead, “you should rather have bitten the bullet and purchased Brian’s jig … because I did”. Do members here just want to purchase the accessories for their machines? Lourens, kan je onthou nie ‘n ou Springbok Radio program, ‘苍?Boer Maak ‘n Plan?? Regards from Perth Derek
Jacques Gagnon All Messages By This Member #129007 Edited To say the least, I am somewhat surprised by the views expressed by some contributors in this thread. Members of FOG, in my mind, are knowledgeable people, willing to help others and interested in producing quality products, while using safe approaches and tooling. Hence my suprise with some of the reactions to Derek's post. From my perspective, the starting point is the presentation by Derek of his approach for improving his handling of workpieces with a view to ensure safety, precision, repeatability and handling. His post allows people to understand his approach and, should they wish to do so, to copy or adapt the product. As a hobbyist I like to think that I can appreciate the qualtiy, innovation and performance of products offered on the market, without necessarily feeling the need, urge or desire to buy some of those products. Without having had the chance to own or even test products such as those made by Brian Lamb and Mac Campshure (sorry for not including more potential examples), I am nonetheless absolutely sure that they are selling top notch products that I would enjoy owning and using. In spite of this, I will likely never be one of their customers simply because I choose to limit the money I invest into my hobby.? Then comes Derek with an interesting approach that can help me enjoy my hobby while increasing performance, all the while preserving the safety aspect. What is wrong with that? Should I, or anybody else with my profile, decide to make a version of Derek's parallel guide has no impact/consequence on the financial performance of people selling this type of equipment since I am not a prospective buyer. Therefore why would it be necessary for some to justify their purchase instead of thanking somebody who enthusiastically shares his passion, know-how and creativity thus allowing everybody to get a new perspective? Diversity of thinking is a widely accepted concept of enhanced performance in any group. Why would this group be any different in that regard? Regards, Jacques
Brian Lamb All Messages By This Member #129008 开云体育 Derek, that’s great that you have something that works for you. How do you do tapers and angles with that wide jig on the end? My reply was only in regards to shipping costs adding 50% to the price, that’s not the case. My question for you on currency rates is how does the Australian dollar hold against Australian product? Wages vs. cost? What’s an average wage and what does a loaf of bread or a dozen eggs cost? Or even better, a pound of aluminum and what does anodizing cost? Those are my biggest expenses. This is out of my own curiosity…. We here in the USA are at the same disadvantage if we want to purchase something in Europe and ship it here to the USA, so I suspect importing of pretty much any foreign product is costly in relation to what is available locally. Brian Lamb blamb11@... www.lambtoolworks.com toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Mar 4, 2023, at 5:12 PM, Derek Cohen <derekcohen@...> wrote: I’m so very pleased for you Lourens. Your KF700 costs about four times my K3. Clearly, you have more discretional spending available than I, or your priorities are different.? I don’t understand the sentiments expressed my some members here. There is no “wow Derek, that is creative and I want to make it myself”. Instead, “you should rather have bitten the bullet and purchased Brian’s jig … because I did”. Do members here just want to purchase the accessories for their machines? Lourens, kan je onthou nie ‘n ou Springbok Radio program, ‘苍?Boer Maak ‘n Plan?? Regards from Perth Derek
Derek Cohen All Messages By This Member #129009 Thank you Jacques Please note all that I am not meaning to be divisive in my remarks. I was calling for unity by way of a supportive attitude. Incidentally, if you think my concept is flawed or crap, please say so, and then how it can be improved. That would indeed be the start of a useful discussion. Regards from Perth Derek
Derek Cohen All Messages By This Member #129011 Edited Derek, that’s great that you have something that works for you. How do you do tapers and angles with that wide jig on the end? Brian, actually simple enough. The stop on the Incra fence slides along the face … All one has to do is run it to the near end. That will provide a very secure nook for the end of the board to be tapered. Further, since there is a stop, cuts are repeatable.? Of course, if you really want to go nuts cutting tapers, then this is the ultimate fixture for a slider … Article: ? After turning ... Brian, the second part of your reply involved finances. I shall post to this in a new thread as it is easier to illustrate with another fixture I built (as I could not justify the costs of a new one). I think that this will be welcomed by those with a similar outlook and need to myself. Later. Regards from Perth Derek ?
David Luckensmeyer All Messages By This Member #129012 开云体育 Derek: Now you’re cooking with gas! I’d forgotten about your taper jig. Nice! Warm regards, Lucky toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Derek Cohen <derekcohen@...> Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 11:28:09 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Parallel Guide for Hammer K3 mk3 ? Derek, that’s great that you have something that works for you. How do you do tapers and angles with that wide jig on the end? Brian, actually simple enough. The stop on the Incra fence slides along the face … All one has to do is run it to the near end. That will provide a very secure nook for the end of the board to be tapered. Further, since there is a stop, cuts are repeatable.? Of course, if you really want to go nuts cutting tapers, then this is the ultimate fixture for a slider … Article: ? Regards from Perth Derek ?
Erik Seither All Messages By This Member #129015 开云体育 Is there a discount for fans of the (original, not the sucky US version) tv series “Rake” that helps with shipping, or is this discouraged or frowned upon among our more sophisticated on the other side of the equator? ? In looking a David Best’s photos I can only imagine a future of nano management of the cellular structure of wood that does not require a mega quantum force of metallurgy over a 2x4 to create a stick of furniture.? Something like a play doh factory for 29 USD with the same level of required programming skill. ? I am imagining the next brand of Felder to be small nuclear reactors that power a cyclonic synergistic set of tools that will produce a table with breakfast on top, with the right precision of course, after various and sundry missing parts and small scale nuclear disasters occur requiring multiple visits from factory reps.? And of course all of the dust would be sent back to Austria directly from the collectors in order to produce the world’s leading compressed Larch supply. ? I continue to reserve my option to resort to chain saw precision, or what must be a Japanese tradition of growing trees with specific dimensioned dovetail drawers with Blum hardware included, whichever is easier, cheaper, or better. ? Someone mentioned having a “good one”, and with no antecedent I did not know if that referred to the wife in discussion or to something else.? This is a broad ranging group discussion, so I thought I would ask!! ? All the very best to those who know what they are doing, and on to your more serious commentary… ? Erik ? ? ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: David Luckensmeyer Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2023 19:39 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Parallel Guide for Hammer K3 mk3 ? Hi Derek: ? I thought I expressed that sentiment? Apologies if I wasn’t clear enough. I like your fixture a lot, particularly as we both do a lot of solid wood projects and use hand tools. I’m grateful for your extra explanations of the what and how of your solution. I’m thinking about making my own solution along similar lines.? ? However, this is a forum. People expressed their views about buying rather than making. Some agreed and some disagreed. I don’t think there was any intention to express rudeness? Just robust views.? ? Greetings from Brisbane. ? ? Lucky From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Derek Cohen <derekcohen@...> Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 10:12:36 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Parallel Guide for Hammer K3 mk3 ? I’m so very pleased for you Lourens. Your KF700 costs about four times my K3. Clearly, you have more discretional spending available than I, or your priorities are different.? I don’t understand the sentiments expressed my some members here. There is no “wow Derek, that is creative and I want to make it myself”. Instead, “you should rather have bitten the bullet and purchased Brian’s jig … because I did”. Do members here just want to purchase the accessories for their machines? Lourens, kan je onthou nie ‘n ou Springbok Radio program, ‘苍?Boer Maak ‘n Plan?? Regards from Perth Derek ? C635A6BEFA784649822A93FF78C059B7.png
@ChrisParks All Messages By This Member #129030 Brian, I did not say shipping adds 50% I said that by the time it was landed in Oz I GUESSED it might be 50% more expensive than what the retail cost is in the US and the 50% was me taking a wild guess based on my importing experience. Derek has missed one large hidden cost, when an item is imported here it cops a 10% import tax which is based on the buying price in AUD plus all shipping? and handling costs as well. If an item costs $2000 AUD landed it will incur a further $200 to release it from customs. Our region is served by Asian imports first and the ROW second.?
Lourens Pretorius #129035 开云体育 Hi Derek,? I apologise for my delayed response, just turned 06h08 on Sunday, 5 March 2023 here in Pretoria, South Africa. I wholeheartedly support your innovative mindset, you are obviously an Australian “boer” because you “maak ‘n plan”. My intention is not to knock your initiative, in fact I envy and highly respect your capabilities. I also realise that you did not create this thread to promote Brian Lambs’ products. I just thought it a suitable opportunity to share my experiences. I can assure you, it required a substantial amount of savings and wife coaxing to buy Brian’s products but it was well worth it in hindsight. Keep up the good work and helpful initiatives, this forum needs guys like you. Regards Lourens toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 05 Mar 2023, at 04:23, Derek Cohen <derekcohen@...> wrote: ? [Edited Message Follows] Derek, that’s great that you have something that works for you. How do you do tapers and angles with that wide jig on the end? Brian, actually simple enough. The stop on the Incra fence slides along the face … All one has to do is run it to the near end. That will provide a very secure nook for the end of the board to be tapered. Further, since there is a stop, cuts are repeatable.? Of course, if you really want to go nuts cutting tapers, then this is the ultimate fixture for a slider … Article: ? After turning ... Brian, the second part of your reply involved finances. I shall post to this in a new thread as it is easier to illustrate with another fixture I built (as I could not justify the costs of a new one). I think that this will be welcomed by those with a similar outlook and need to myself. Later. Regards from Perth Derek ?
Derek Cohen All Messages By This Member #129059 Edited Thanks Lourens.? As an aside, I am aware how much your equipment must have cost you. The Aussie Dollar is about 60% of the US Dollar, but the South African Rand is 10% of the AUD. I suspect that you need to own your own diamond or gold mine to afford anything.? It is many years since I visited Pretoria … 45 at least. I grew up in Cape Town, which was (as you know) like a different country to your area. My wife and I migrated to Australia in the early-mid 80s. However, we would visit every year as our parents were still there, and I have a sister in Port Elizabeth (over the years most of my family have also moved to Oz). These yearly visits continued until Covid, when my mum passed at 96. This made migrating very expensive, but living in South Africa is even more so.? I did write one short story about my memories growing up, and in the context of woodworking. Link:? http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Commentary/APlanefromMatjiesfontein.html Regards from Perth Derek

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