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Preferred 27mm hose length?
A little off-topic, but I'd appreciate the wisdom this group may have to offer.?
After many years of useful service, I'm preparing to retire my old 27mm dust hoses, and am looking at ordering some new 27mm hoses. My existing 27mm hoses are of the standard 3.5m length, Festool brand.? A few years ago I started using a 36mm 5m hose, and really appreciated the additional length, particularly in the context of general clean-up (on-site, and in the Shop). This got me wondering if I would benefit from a 5m length for the 27mm hose, or if the extra length would get in the way?? Festool 27mm-32mm 3.5m hose:?? Festool 27mm-32mm 5m hose: ?? Alternatively, I can get a 3.5m tapered Mirka hose for significantly lower cost. I'd be missing out on the braided sleeve on the newer Festool hoses, but I wouldn't have to go to the trouble of removing and throwing away the newer Festool hose ends, either.? Mirka 27mm-32mm 3.5m hose:?? Curious what feedback other users have in terms of 27mm hose length, particularly those who've tried the 5m length.? As a side note, I'm also considering a sleeved Mirka hose/cord combo, as I'm migrating most of my sanders to the Mirka platform (Deros, Leros, etc...), and it might be nice to work a little further away from the vac when sanding for longer periods, particularly with the Leros. Mirka Sleeved hose/cord: ?? Lastly, I can say I've been really happy using the Mirka 27mm x 20" hose whips. Most Mirka sanders (and several other tool brands) use a barbed connection on their tool which matches the ribs on a standard 27mm hose, allowing you to thread the hose directly on to the tool. It has been my experience that this helps to make the sanders that much more easy to handle, since the flex point of the hose is closer to the tool than if you had a connector at the end of the hose. I've also found this to allow for quicker switching between tools, and allows for using a 36mm hose as the "trunk", if the tool would benefit from that. Mirka 27mm hose whip:?? -- Tom Gensmer Heritage Home Renewals, LLC Minneapolis, MN |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHello Tom Gensmer, Can Mirka hoses be used with Festool vacuums/tool connections? ?If so, that¡¯s huge savings on hose costs.? Thx, Wade On Mar 5, 2023, at 7:15 AM, tom@... wrote:
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Hi Wade,?
At the risk of making a broad, definitive statement, I will say that it has been my experience that all of the European hoses and vacs that I've used conform to the standard 50mm vac-end connection, with the exception of the Starmix hoses, which are only compatible with Starmix vacs, but the Starmix vacs will accept any 50mm hose end.? In terms of vacs, at this point I've consolidated down to re-branded Starmix vacs (Metabo, Mafell, etc....), and Nilfisk vacs. So, until Festool converts to a proprietary vac/hose connection, their vacs should be compatible with any brand hose with a 50mm cuff/end. -- Tom Gensmer Heritage Home Renewals, LLC Minneapolis, MN |
5m hoses here, no regrets, sometimes I need to scoot it away from under my feet, but I'd rather that, than not have enough length.? Also good for overhead stand, hang from ceiling, etc.
Tom - Do you have the Mirka Deros???? What are your thoughts on paddle switch ?? I have Festool slide and toggle switches , and am in the market for a new sander either Deros 125/150 or Festool ETS150.? It would seem awkward having a paddle switch when trying to hold the sander in different positions, but I have never used one. thanks..... |
I have a Mirka DEROS 650X CV, it is 6" with 5mm stroke. I also bought the 5" pad (MK-915GV28-130), so I can use it as a 5" sander. That is the main reason I bought DEROS, otherwise I would need to buy 6" and 5" Festool sanders. I got used to the paddle switch. I have Festool Rotex 150, PRO 5, ETS EC 150/3 and RTS 400 REQ. The only thing I do not like is that I cannot use the Festool plug-it power cord on Mirka sander (I wish there was an adapter), so I need the Mirka power cord on my Festool boom arm too. On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 1:23?PM Rich M. <rmarkiewicz@...> wrote: 5m hoses here, no regrets, sometimes I need to scoot it away from under my feet, but I'd rather that, than not have enough length.? Also good for overhead stand, hang from ceiling, etc. |
Hi Rich,?
Thanks for the feedback on the 5m hose, I'll give it a closer look.? I do have a Mirka Deros sander, the 6" pad, 2.5mm orbit configuration. I really like it, particularly for fine sanding between paint or finish coats. I don't notice the paddle switch, at least in a negative way. In my experience it's very intuitive, and I'm not sure I'd go back to a sander with a On/Off switch. Happy to discuss further if you'd like.? I also have the standard configuration LEROS sander, and have noticed that Mirka recently released a shortened version that would seem well suited to tables and other panel goods....? -- Tom Gensmer Heritage Home Renewals, LLC Minneapolis, MN |
Tom, Had an old CTmidi c.2010 with the small hose. Latest CTmidi purchased had I believe the 36mm, but maybe it was 32mm. Way better flow performance and less clogging esp. When vacuuming up things other than sawdust. I would not consider the smaller diameter hose for longer lengths or shorter lengths either one? if I was spending the money on replacements, but I'm not sure what other factors make 27mm desirable. On Sun, Mar 5, 2023, 2:31 PM <tom@...> wrote: Hi Rich,? |
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