Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
Wait,
I need to be on the other side of zero! ?Back at it.?
Wade
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 11:09 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? ? David,
I think I nailed it! ?Video attached. After a short while I have it dialed in at .003 toe out in 10¡±.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:00 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? I think you¡¯ll find an analog (rather than digital) dial indicator far more useful for alignments. ?Generally speaking, you¡¯re looking for relative measurements rather than absolute - like in the case of the eccentricity of your rip fence wheel. ?Get yourself something like this:
?
David, your a smart guy!
Video attached. ?It just went over .010 in one spot! ? I¡¯ll forward this to Felder as well
? Rotate the rip fence housing around and upside down. ?Mount the dial indicator mag base somewhere inside the rip fence housing and indicate over and down to the wheel. ?Then carefully rotate the wheel and observe the indicator reading. ? If the indicator reading changes more than say 0.010¡± as it¡¯s rotated, then the wheel is defective and causing your fence to bounce up/down as it traverses the surface of the machine. ??
Yes, Just bought one prior to the saw showing up. ? Thx, Wade On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:13 AM, david@... via <david@...> wrote:
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Are the two nuts, circled in red, only to adjust the rip fence 90 degrees to the table surface? ?And the ONLY way you want to dial in your toe out is through the adjustments of the large 50mm support bar as you described David?
Correct.
Do you have a dial indicator with magnetic base? ??Similar to this?
David Best
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Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
? David,
I think I nailed it! ?Video attached. After a short while I have it dialed in at .003 toe out in 10¡±.
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:00 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? I think you¡¯ll find an analog (rather than digital) dial indicator far more useful for alignments. ?Generally speaking, you¡¯re looking for relative measurements rather than absolute - like in the case of the eccentricity of your rip fence wheel. ?Get yourself something like this:
?
David, your a smart guy!
Video attached. ?It just went over .010 in one spot! ? I¡¯ll forward this to Felder as well
? Rotate the rip fence housing around and upside down. ?Mount the dial indicator mag base somewhere inside the rip fence housing and indicate over and down to the wheel. ?Then carefully rotate the wheel and observe the indicator reading. ? If the indicator reading changes more than say 0.010¡± as it¡¯s rotated, then the wheel is defective and causing your fence to bounce up/down as it traverses the surface of the machine. ??
Yes, Just bought one prior to the saw showing up. ? Thx, Wade On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:13 AM, david@... via <david@...> wrote:
?
Are the two nuts, circled in red, only to adjust the rip fence 90 degrees to the table surface? ?And the ONLY way you want to dial in your toe out is through the adjustments of the large 50mm support bar as you described David?
Correct.
Do you have a dial indicator with magnetic base? ??Similar to this?
David Best
<magneticbasedialindicator.jpg>
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Okay, I¡¯ll try that next once I have this support bar(boat anchor) finalized!
Thank you very much!
Wade
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 11:04 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Wade,
I just confirmed on my saw. I have to loosen the screw I pointed out to slide the long xcut fence away from blade. I think that is what you were asking. I do need to mess with it for pivoting, like you do for an angled cut.
Imran
On Feb 12, 2022, at 11:26 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Yes, totally agree. Thx? On Feb 12, 2022, at 8:15 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Wade,
Sorry, thought you were trying to pivot the long xcut fence. It is a good idea to start a new thread with a different question so thick heads like me who can¡¯t read will give you a better answer ?
No sweat though, we all have been guilty of piggy backing a question somewhat related to the current conversation. However, search works better when the subject heading is directly related to the question.
Imran
On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? That knob you indicated, is the pivot point lock. ?Tech said to leave that alone to set up for miters. ?The pic here shows the two handles I am suppose to move/loosen, which I do. ?Then I can pivot the fence down a bit over the outrigger, with no problem, but then when I pull on that small underside knob it doesn¡¯t allow the fence to slide either way. ?I¡¯m suppose to be able to get the fence to slide closer to the blade during a miter set up. ?Just kind of scratching my head right now. ?
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 12, 2022, at 7:28 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Oops! that is s different design than mine. I would try loosening the knob that secures the long fence to the outrigger until someone with your design chimes in. See red arrow in your pic below.
Imran
On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Imran,
Are you referring to this lever, picture attached?
Second pic is the knob I was pulling down on.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 12, 2022, at 7:14 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Wade,
You need to loosen the kip lever at the end of the extrusion that has the angle gradations.
Imran
On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:10 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Imran,
So did you use your large cross cut fence to make these miters for the frame? ?I¡¯m still not sure why my large cross cut fence will not slide down away from the blade when I pivot for a miter set up. ?I pulled down on the small black knob under the fence, which is what the tech guy said to do, but it won¡¯t move. ?Not sure if there another step I¡¯m not doing.
Thx,
Wade On Feb 12, 2022, at 7:04 AM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
? Yes I do, Pretty much dead nuts every time. Can¡¯t remember what amount it can be off but its very minimal, for those that like extreme precision it¡¯s not good enough - i¡¯m a hack so it works for me¡ On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:50 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Does using the 45 deg marking for the long xcut fence work for you to make perfect 45s, let¡¯s say for a simple frame?
I used my precision 45 deg square for making this frame but it is only 6¡± on the long side. Frame?is fine but not to my standard. Maybe, I should not have sold the frame square saw.
I found 2 options, if a setup square is recommended but there is no accuracy provided.
I know someone is going to suggest miter saw but not everything fits my miter saw.
Imran
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Wade,
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I just confirmed on my saw. I have to loosen the knob I pointed out to slide the long xcut fence away from blade. I think that is what you were asking. I do NOT need to mess with it for pivoting, like you do for an angled cut.
?
Imran
On Feb 12, 2022, at 11:26 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
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Yes, totally agree. Thx?
On Feb 12, 2022, at 8:15 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?
Wade,
?
Sorry, thought you were trying to pivot the long xcut fence. It is a good idea to start a new thread with a different question so thick heads like me who can¡¯t read will give you a better answer ?
?
No sweat though, we all have been guilty of piggy backing a question somewhat related to the current conversation. However, search works better when the subject heading is directly related to the question.
?
Imran
On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
?
That knob you indicated, is the pivot point lock. ?Tech said to leave that alone to set up for miters. ?The pic here shows the two handles I am suppose to move/loosen, which I do. ?Then I can pivot the fence down a bit over the outrigger, with no problem, but then when I pull on that small underside knob it doesn¡¯t allow the fence to slide either way. ?I¡¯m suppose to be able to get the fence to slide closer to the blade during a miter set up. ?Just kind of scratching my head right now. ?
?
Thx,
?
Wade
?
On Feb 12, 2022, at 7:28 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?
Oops! that is s different design than mine. I would try loosening the knob that secures the long fence to the outrigger until someone with your design chimes in. See red arrow in your pic below.
?
Imran
On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
?
Imran,
?
Are you referring to this lever, picture attached?
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Second pic is the knob I was pulling down on.
?
Thx,
?
Wade
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 7:14 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?
Wade,
?
You need to loosen the kip lever at the end of the extrusion that has the angle gradations.
?
Imran
On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:10 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
?
Imran,
?
So did you use your large cross cut fence to make these miters for the frame? ?I¡¯m still not sure why my large cross cut fence will not slide down away from the blade when I pivot for a miter set up. ?I pulled down on the small black knob under the fence, which is what the tech guy said to do, but it won¡¯t move. ?Not sure if there another step I¡¯m not doing.
?
Thx,
?
Wade
On Feb 12, 2022, at 7:04 AM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
Yes I do, Pretty much dead nuts every time. Can¡¯t remember what amount it can be off but its very minimal, for those that like extreme precision it¡¯s not good enough - i¡¯m a hack so it works for me¡
On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:50 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
Does using the 45 deg marking for the long xcut fence work for you to make perfect 45s, let¡¯s say for a simple frame?
?
I used my precision 45 deg square for making this frame but it is only 6¡± on the long side. Frame?is fine but not to my standard. Maybe, I should not have sold the frame square saw.
?
?
?
I found 2 options, if a setup square is recommended but there is no accuracy provided.
?
?
?
I know someone is going to suggest miter saw but not everything fits my miter saw.
?
Imran
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Re: Everyday Glue Recommendation
Called a glu bot on amazon by fastcap. I have one for each glue type
On that Lee Valley link, there was at the bottom a "related product" of a dripless glue bottle.? A friend turned me on to this not long ago, and I always use it.? Highly recommended.
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Re: Everyday Glue Recommendation
On that Lee Valley link, there was at the bottom a "related product" of a dripless glue bottle. ?A friend turned me on to this not long ago, and I always use it. ?Highly recommended.
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Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
Ah, okay. ?I can swap the analog dial indicator from my OneWay gauge. ?
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:00 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? I think you¡¯ll find an analog (rather than digital) dial indicator far more useful for alignments. ?Generally speaking, you¡¯re looking for relative measurements rather than absolute - like in the case of the eccentricity of your rip fence wheel. ?Get yourself something like this:
?
David, your a smart guy!
Video attached. ?It just went over .010 in one spot! ? I¡¯ll forward this to Felder as well
? Rotate the rip fence housing around and upside down. ?Mount the dial indicator mag base somewhere inside the rip fence housing and indicate over and down to the wheel. ?Then carefully rotate the wheel and observe the indicator reading. ? If the indicator reading changes more than say 0.010¡± as it¡¯s rotated, then the wheel is defective and causing your fence to bounce up/down as it traverses the surface of the machine. ??
Yes, Just bought one prior to the saw showing up. ? Thx, Wade On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:13 AM, david@... via <david@...> wrote:
?
Are the two nuts, circled in red, only to adjust the rip fence 90 degrees to the table surface? ?And the ONLY way you want to dial in your toe out is through the adjustments of the large 50mm support bar as you described David?
Correct.
Do you have a dial indicator with magnetic base? ??Similar to this?
David Best
<magneticbasedialindicator.jpg>
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Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
I think you¡¯ll find an analog (rather than digital) dial indicator far more useful for alignments. ?Generally speaking, you¡¯re looking for relative measurements rather than absolute - like in the case of the eccentricity of your rip fence wheel. ?Get yourself something like this:
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David, your a smart guy!
Video attached. ?It just went over .010 in one spot! ? I¡¯ll forward this to Felder as well
? Rotate the rip fence housing around and upside down. ?Mount the dial indicator mag base somewhere inside the rip fence housing and indicate over and down to the wheel. ?Then carefully rotate the wheel and observe the indicator reading. ? If the indicator reading changes more than say 0.010¡± as it¡¯s rotated, then the wheel is defective and causing your fence to bounce up/down as it traverses the surface of the machine. ??
Yes, Just bought one prior to the saw showing up. ? Thx, Wade On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:13 AM, david@... via <david@...> wrote:
?
Are the two nuts, circled in red, only to adjust the rip fence 90 degrees to the table surface? ?And the ONLY way you want to dial in your toe out is through the adjustments of the large 50mm support bar as you described David?
Correct.
Do you have a dial indicator with magnetic base? ??Similar to this?
David Best
<magneticbasedialindicator.jpg>
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Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
With the large washers removed from the front and the bar placed back and pushed tight against the cast I¡¯m sitting at 1-1/8¡± plus between the cast and inside of bar. ?Everyone has indicted the spec should be 40mm / 1-9/16¡±. ?So I guess I need to move these ¡°setting¡± nuts further out on the threaded rod. Picture attached?
Wade
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:34 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? Rotate the rip fence housing around and upside down. ?Mount the dial indicator mag base somewhere inside the rip fence housing and indicate over and down to the wheel. ?Then carefully rotate the wheel and observe the indicator reading. ? If the indicator reading changes more than say 0.010¡± as it¡¯s rotated, then the wheel is defective and causing your fence to bounce up/down as it traverses the surface of the machine. ??
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
Yes, Just bought one prior to the saw showing up. ? Thx, Wade On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:13 AM, david@... via <david@...> wrote:
?
Are the two nuts, circled in red, only to adjust the rip fence 90 degrees to the table surface? ?And the ONLY way you want to dial in your toe out is through the adjustments of the large 50mm support bar as you described David?
Correct.
Do you have a dial indicator with magnetic base? ??Similar to this?
David Best
<magneticbasedialindicator.jpg>
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Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
The large washers that I had installed wrong, on the front face of the cast, are now deformed! ?But I¡¯m still wondering if I use both big washers here on each threaded stud behind the cast. ?Looking at the instructions it¡¯s not indicating two, but they sent me extra. ?Just don¡¯t know if it matters. ?Picture attached?
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:34 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? Rotate the rip fence housing around and upside down. ?Mount the dial indicator mag base somewhere inside the rip fence housing and indicate over and down to the wheel. ?Then carefully rotate the wheel and observe the indicator reading. ? If the indicator reading changes more than say 0.010¡± as it¡¯s rotated, then the wheel is defective and causing your fence to bounce up/down as it traverses the surface of the machine. ??
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
Yes, Just bought one prior to the saw showing up. ? Thx, Wade On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:13 AM, david@... via <david@...> wrote:
?
Are the two nuts, circled in red, only to adjust the rip fence 90 degrees to the table surface? ?And the ONLY way you want to dial in your toe out is through the adjustments of the large 50mm support bar as you described David?
Correct.
Do you have a dial indicator with magnetic base? ??Similar to this?
David Best
<magneticbasedialindicator.jpg>
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Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
David, your a smart guy!
Video attached. ?It just went over .010 in one spot! ? I¡¯ll forward this to Felder as well
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:34 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? Rotate the rip fence housing around and upside down. ?Mount the dial indicator mag base somewhere inside the rip fence housing and indicate over and down to the wheel. ?Then carefully rotate the wheel and observe the indicator reading. ? If the indicator reading changes more than say 0.010¡± as it¡¯s rotated, then the wheel is defective and causing your fence to bounce up/down as it traverses the surface of the machine. ??
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
Yes, Just bought one prior to the saw showing up. ? Thx, Wade On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:13 AM, david@... via <david@...> wrote:
?
Are the two nuts, circled in red, only to adjust the rip fence 90 degrees to the table surface? ?And the ONLY way you want to dial in your toe out is through the adjustments of the large 50mm support bar as you described David?
Correct.
Do you have a dial indicator with magnetic base? ??Similar to this?
David Best
<magneticbasedialindicator.jpg>
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Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
Rotate the rip fence housing around and upside down. ?Mount the dial indicator mag base somewhere inside the rip fence housing and indicate over and down to the wheel. ?Then carefully rotate the wheel and observe the indicator reading. ? If the indicator reading changes more than say 0.010¡± as it¡¯s rotated, then the wheel is defective and causing your fence to bounce up/down as it traverses the surface of the machine. ??
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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Yes, Just bought one prior to the saw showing up. ? Thx, Wade On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:13 AM, david@... via <david@...> wrote:
?
Are the two nuts, circled in red, only to adjust the rip fence 90 degrees to the table surface? ?And the ONLY way you want to dial in your toe out is through the adjustments of the large 50mm support bar as you described David?
Correct.
Do you have a dial indicator with magnetic base? ??Similar to this?
David Best
<magneticbasedialindicator.jpg>
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Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
Yes, I have this info you posted, printed out here. ?
I just have noticed the spacing on the nuts is off. Now maybe it doesn¡¯t really matter. But I wasn¡¯t sure. ?
Thx?
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:23 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? I posted about this before. ??
Once you get your rip fence bar?loosely?installed, you want to adjust it so the rip fence has slight toe-out to the saw blade. ?You make that adjustment by securing the stud closest to the slider,?loosen all the others, and use the one farthest from the slider that attaches to the extension table to get the?bar angle correct using this technique to check toe-out, following the verbiage below the photo. ?Once the bar is aligned with those two studs, then snug up the others keeping?care not to distort the bar from being straight.
. ?
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
And maybe this is an obvious question, but should I start off by making the distance the same between the two nuts? ?See picture attached. Between the red lines. ?They are off from one another by over a 1/16¡±. ?I never touched these, they came installed and tightened down already. ?
Thx,
Wade
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? Okay, I¡¯m starting to take my rip fence support rail off and starting over with the installation. ?Many have pointed out that I had the large washers on the cast table connection on the front when they clearly need to be in the back, but took the nuts off on the back side of the cast table and I have these other two large washers as well. ?Do I double up the washers on the back side nut? ?Pictures attached.?
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 11, 2022, at 8:10 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
? My older machine has a plastic pad with a large radius on the bottom rather than a wheel. Wonder if they could mount two rollers in tandem so that why one is over the table joint the other supports. You would never have the thump-thump.
Hi Jay,
Yeah it¡¯s really bad when I slide it across. ?Very disappointing for what these things cost. ?I keep looking at the construction of the underside with the support wheel and I don¡¯t see how this could be fixed. Even after I completely reinstall my support bar today and adjust my toe out. ?I¡¯ll ask Felder Tech about it as well. ?
Thx,
Wade ?Repositioning the rip fence is my only disappointment with the K700S. In my case I hear one thud with movement when I transition between the cast top and steel support which are co-planer but the top has a rolled edge which creates a slight gap the wheel rides over. In your video I hear the same thud 5x you definitely should be able to get rid of that.
Jay
Cleveland
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Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
I posted about this before. ??
Once you get your rip fence bar?loosely?installed, you want to adjust it so the rip fence has slight toe-out to the saw blade. ?You make that adjustment by securing the stud closest to the slider,?loosen all the others, and use the one farthest from the slider that attaches to the extension table to get the?bar angle correct using this technique to check toe-out, following the verbiage below the photo. ?Once the bar is aligned with those two studs, then snug up the others keeping?care not to distort the bar from being straight.
. ?
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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And maybe this is an obvious question, but should I start off by making the distance the same between the two nuts? ?See picture attached. Between the red lines. ?They are off from one another by over a 1/16¡±. ?I never touched these, they came installed and tightened down already. ?
Thx,
Wade
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? Okay, I¡¯m starting to take my rip fence support rail off and starting over with the installation. ?Many have pointed out that I had the large washers on the cast table connection on the front when they clearly need to be in the back, but took the nuts off on the back side of the cast table and I have these other two large washers as well. ?Do I double up the washers on the back side nut? ?Pictures attached.?
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 11, 2022, at 8:10 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
? My older machine has a plastic pad with a large radius on the bottom rather than a wheel. Wonder if they could mount two rollers in tandem so that why one is over the table joint the other supports. You would never have the thump-thump.
Hi Jay,
Yeah it¡¯s really bad when I slide it across. ?Very disappointing for what these things cost. ?I keep looking at the construction of the underside with the support wheel and I don¡¯t see how this could be fixed. Even after I completely reinstall my support bar today and adjust my toe out. ?I¡¯ll ask Felder Tech about it as well. ?
Thx,
Wade ?Repositioning the rip fence is my only disappointment with the K700S. In my case I hear one thud with movement when I transition between the cast top and steel support which are co-planer but the top has a rolled edge which creates a slight gap the wheel rides over. In your video I hear the same thud 5x you definitely should be able to get rid of that.
Jay
Cleveland
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Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
Yes,
Just bought one prior to the saw showing up.
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:13 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
?
Are the two nuts, circled in red, only to adjust the rip fence 90 degrees to the table surface? And the ONLY way you want to dial in your toe out is through the adjustments of the large 50mm support bar as you described David?
Correct.
Do you have a dial indicator with magnetic base? Similar to this?
David Best
|
Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
And maybe this is an obvious question, but should I start off by making the distance the same between the two nuts? ?See picture attached. Between the red lines. ?They are off from one another by over a 1/16¡±. ?I never touched these, they came installed and tightened down already. ?
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Okay, I¡¯m starting to take my rip fence support rail off and starting over with the installation. ?Many have pointed out that I had the large washers on the cast table connection on the front when they clearly need to be in the back, but took the nuts off on the back side of the cast table and I have these other two large washers as well. ?Do I double up the washers on the back side nut? ?Pictures attached.?
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 11, 2022, at 8:10 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
? My older machine has a plastic pad with a large radius on the bottom rather than a wheel. Wonder if they could mount two rollers in tandem so that why one is over the table joint the other supports. You would never have the thump-thump.
Hi Jay,
Yeah it¡¯s really bad when I slide it across. ?Very disappointing for what these things cost. ?I keep looking at the construction of the underside with the support wheel and I don¡¯t see how this could be fixed. Even after I completely reinstall my support bar today and adjust my toe out. ?I¡¯ll ask Felder Tech about it as well. ?
Thx,
Wade ?Repositioning the rip fence is my only disappointment with the K700S. In my case I hear one thud with movement when I transition between the cast top and steel support which are co-planer but the top has a rolled edge which creates a slight gap the wheel rides over. In your video I hear the same thud 5x you definitely should be able to get rid of that.
Jay
Cleveland
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Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
Are the two nuts, circled in red, only to adjust the rip fence 90 degrees to the table surface? And the ONLY way you want to dial in your toe out is through the adjustments of the large 50mm support bar as you described David? Correct. Do you have a dial indicator with magnetic base? Similar to this? David Best
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Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
Okay, I¡¯m starting to take my rip fence support rail off and starting over with the installation. ?Many have pointed out that I had the large washers on the cast table connection on the front when they clearly need to be in the back, but took the nuts off on the back side of the cast table and I have these other two large washers as well. ?Do I double up the washers on the back side nut? ?Pictures attached.?
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 11, 2022, at 8:10 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
? My older machine has a plastic pad with a large radius on the bottom rather than a wheel. Wonder if they could mount two rollers in tandem so that why one is over the table joint the other supports. You would never have the thump-thump.
Hi Jay,
Yeah it¡¯s really bad when I slide it across. ?Very disappointing for what these things cost. ?I keep looking at the construction of the underside with the support wheel and I don¡¯t see how this could be fixed. Even after I completely reinstall my support bar today and adjust my toe out. ?I¡¯ll ask Felder Tech about it as well. ?
Thx,
Wade ?Repositioning the rip fence is my only disappointment with the K700S. In my case I hear one thud with movement when I transition between the cast top and steel support which are co-planer but the top has a rolled edge which creates a slight gap the wheel rides over. In your video I hear the same thud 5x you definitely should be able to get rid of that.
Jay
Cleveland
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Re: Everyday Glue Recommendation
By far, my favorite is the Lee Valley Cabinet Maker's Glue GF 2002.? Great open time and higher viscosity than TBIII.? It comes and goes on the US site.
https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/supplies/adhesives/glue/45104-lee-valley-cabinetmakers-glue-2002-gf#:~:text=Our%202002%20GF%20glue%20is,starving%20and%20virtually%20eliminates%20staining.
Garrett Wade also has it, but the cost is high.
I use Unibond 800 urea for veneer.? Also use the heat blankets.? It works great in my shop which tends to run about 65 degrees resulting in long open time and then the blankets kick the glue properly.? Unibond 800 needs 70 degrees+ to set.
I sometimes use TBII when the glue-up is simple and I want a little quicker set.? I did tha with 30 domino drawer boxes recently.? Titebond lists the clamp time as the same for ii or iii but II seems to set quicker or me so I can re-use my clamps sooner.
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 8:15 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Wade,
Sorry, thought you were trying to pivot the long xcut fence. It is a good idea to start a new thread with a different question so thick heads like me who can¡¯t read will give you a better answer ?
No sweat though, we all have been guilty of piggy backing a question somewhat related to the current conversation. However, search works better when the subject heading is directly related to the question.
Imran
On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? That knob you indicated, is the pivot point lock. ?Tech said to leave that alone to set up for miters. ?The pic here shows the two handles I am suppose to move/loosen, which I do. ?Then I can pivot the fence down a bit over the outrigger, with no problem, but then when I pull on that small underside knob it doesn¡¯t allow the fence to slide either way. ?I¡¯m suppose to be able to get the fence to slide closer to the blade during a miter set up. ?Just kind of scratching my head right now. ?
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 12, 2022, at 7:28 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Oops! that is s different design than mine. I would try loosening the knob that secures the long fence to the outrigger until someone with your design chimes in. See red arrow in your pic below.
Imran
On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Imran,
Are you referring to this lever, picture attached?
Second pic is the knob I was pulling down on.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 12, 2022, at 7:14 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Wade,
You need to loosen the kip lever at the end of the extrusion that has the angle gradations.
Imran
On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:10 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Imran,
So did you use your large cross cut fence to make these miters for the frame? ?I¡¯m still not sure why my large cross cut fence will not slide down away from the blade when I pivot for a miter set up. ?I pulled down on the small black knob under the fence, which is what the tech guy said to do, but it won¡¯t move. ?Not sure if there another step I¡¯m not doing.
Thx,
Wade On Feb 12, 2022, at 7:04 AM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
? Yes I do, Pretty much dead nuts every time. Can¡¯t remember what amount it can be off but its very minimal, for those that like extreme precision it¡¯s not good enough - i¡¯m a hack so it works for me¡ On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:50 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Does using the 45 deg marking for the long xcut fence work for you to make perfect 45s, let¡¯s say for a simple frame?
I used my precision 45 deg square for making this frame but it is only 6¡± on the long side. Frame?is fine but not to my standard. Maybe, I should not have sold the frame square saw.
I found 2 options, if a setup square is recommended but there is no accuracy provided.
I know someone is going to suggest miter saw but not everything fits my miter saw.
Imran
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