Re: Last day to save 10% on Felder Accessories
I tried to purchase but the web site does not like a Canadian address even with the shipping staying in the US.
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Re: Last day to save 10% on Felder Accessories
I succumbed to the outrigger carriage. Very pricy but better than a back injury. At least that's my excuse.
Happy New Year everyone!
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Last day to save 10% on Felder Accessories
Just did my part. 10% off even on items that are on sale.
Imran
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formerly known as dealing with machine companies, now EV charging
TJ, Which charger did you go with? I installed a Siemens Versacharge this summer. I chose this over the Juice Box which was also on my list. I was able to find a used one on Ebay for about 50% of its cost when new. One feature that attracted me to it was when installed with the supplied 6-50 plug instead of hard wiring, I can lift the charger off it's quick release wall bracket and throw it in the trunk and drive on down the road to a campground and plug it right into the common RV hookup. I haven't actually done this yet, but I like knowing I could. I was also future proofing to some extent, because my 1st gen Nissan Leaf cannot take 50 amps, but hopefully my next one will be able to.
Here in Minnesota, my utility provider Xcel has an off peak EV charging program. This requires a dedicated meter, which was easy because my garage is 6 feet from a pole in the alley. I installed the meter box and mast etc, new 100 amp panel and receptacle. Inspector came and signed off. Then Xcel came and installed the meter and turned it on. Now from 9pm-9am I charge for $.04/kwh instead of the normal rate of around $.13/kwh. I can charge anytime, I just pay full price if it's during the day. It's so fast compared to the 110v charger the car comes with that I used exclusively for over a year. It will take a year or so to pay for itself, but then it's just gravy. It's also probably a good selling feature when I decide I'm done taking care of a 100+ year old house. Hopefully I get to put my Rivian pickup in there before that time comes...
Jason Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: Dealing with woodworking machine companies - Harvey
Robert?
would be interested in your review of the overhead guard. Looking at the same for my hammer k3.?
stan
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Yes very low miles. Curious to know what that costs new and what it will go for.
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Re: The Unofficial Survival Guide
Now there is an asset that is increasing in value with time !!!
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well it is not the million dollars I was predicting but looks like you are going to do well with this sale ?
Imran
On Dec 31, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:
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David has a bridge to sell too Imran...
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On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 6:32 AM imranindiana via
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How come I see $480 on Ebay vs the $2K posted here?
Imran
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OK, Bill, this is getting serious now.
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I have placed my copy of "The Unofficial Survival Guide" for sale on ebay if anyone is interested.
Bill Bélanger
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well it is not the million dollars I was predicting but looks like you are going to do well with this sale ?
Imran
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Bill Bélanger On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 6:32 AM imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: How come I see $480 on Ebay vs the $2K posted here?
Imran ? OK, Bill, this is getting serious now.
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On Dec 22, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Bill Bélanger < Bllblngr@...> wrote:
I have placed my copy of "The Unofficial Survival Guide" for sale on ebay if anyone is interested.
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David has a bridge to sell too Imran...
Bill Bélanger
On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 6:32 AM imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: How come I see $480 on Ebay vs the $2K posted here?
Imran ? OK, Bill, this is getting serious now.
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On Dec 22, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Bill Bélanger < Bllblngr@...> wrote:
I have placed my copy of "The Unofficial Survival Guide" for sale on ebay if anyone is interested.
Bill Bélanger
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Re: Self Retracting Air & electric Reels?
Thanx guys - when you start searching for this stuff it all sounds good, and you have no real idea if the "reviews" are real.
The strongway is reasonably priced @ $170 currently.
The Tekton has some weird pricing - $170 for the 1/2" hose, BUT $270 for the 3/8" hose (which would be far better for nail guns). I'm guessing it's just a fluke supply/demand/seller thing. May watch the prices for a bit to see what happens.
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Re: The Unofficial Survival Guide
How come I see $480 on Ebay vs the $2K posted here?
Imran
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On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:24 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote: ? OK, Bill, this is getting serious now.
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I have placed my copy of "The Unofficial Survival Guide" for sale on ebay if anyone is interested.
Bill Bélanger
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Very tempting...
Bill Bélanger?
OK, Bill, this is getting serious now.
On Dec 22, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Bill Bélanger < Bllblngr@...> wrote:
I have placed my copy of "The Unofficial Survival Guide" for sale on ebay if anyone is interested.
Bill Bélanger
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OK, Bill, this is getting serious now.
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Re: The Unofficial Survival Guide
Hey Bill, you going to split this with me?
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Re: Dealing with woodworking machine companies - Harvey
The most legal remedy is using 90 degree #6 wire, but that’s stupid as you’re just paying to heat up the inside of your wall/conduit; not a great situation considering the whole point of an electric car is efficiency. If the charger manufacturer spent $.02 more and put lugs capable of the right size wire, this would all be so much easier.?
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On Dec 30, 2020, at 9:02 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Got it, TJ.
Imran
On Dec 30, 2020, at 7:41 PM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote:
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True, but a 50A continuous load must have a breaker larger than 50A because of the 80% rule (there are special breakers rated for 100% load, but they aren’t what you’d put in your home power box), which is actually a 65A breaker, commonly
rounded down to 60A. 60A breakers should have #4.
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#6 Cu is rated for 55A @ 60C
#6 AL is rated for 50A @ 75C
I believe NEC derate for the wires to be in the wall cavity. Is there a different standard for machine cables/ext wires? I guess it would have to be based upon the length of said cable.
In the same vain, as you stated, the wires that my felder machines came with are substantially smaller gauge than what I had to use per code.
On Dec 30, 2020, at 6:55 PM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote:
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I don’t understand some products’ strange electrical factors. Prior to my Felder, I had a 5HP SawStop which ran at about 19 amps, which clearly requires #10 wire and a 30A breaker, however the cord inlet was not large enough to accept 10-3
SOOW cord. Another example - I just bought a plug-in hybrid vehicle. The most popular level 2 charger on the market is rated for 50 amps of charging current, but the lugs can only accept up to #6 wire.
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What’s doubly amazing is how these products somehow get UL listed when they don’t meet NEC code.
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I think the CF531 I just received had the same “maximum 20A OCPD” note in the install documentation, so your little war didn’t hurt enough to fix their stupid documentation.
I had a little war with Felder.? The documentation? for my RL160 said maximum 20 amps.? so that's what my guy installed (scratching his head).
Then the thing did nothing but blow the circuit
I must have spent? ten hours on the phone with their pro league Ex used car salesman? Gaslighhter? telling me how it is all my fault.
So I told them they were coming to NJ? to defend? a suit that I would file in NJ and not in Delaware deliberately,? so as to provide me the opportunity to ask the court to reform their contract and strike their venue selection clause along with my demand
for m payment of the electricians bill for the rewiring job.? If I got one state to strike that clause that'd open them to suite in all states.
A couple weeks later I got a check. .
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On 12/30/20 4:53 PM, Robert Johnson wrote:
With all the recent angst with Felder customer support, I wanted to report on my initial experience with Harvey.
As many of you know Jack Xo makes the Gyro dust collector and basic woodworking machines and bought out Bridge City Tools.
I suggested to my wife that a Shark S-12s Universal Overhead Guard would be great for Christmas.? This was back around Thanksgiving.? It arrive quickly by UPS, however its double wall hex-cell cored cardboard box had been totally shredded and basically held
together just with miles of packaging tape.? I never saw a UPS driver take off so fast after he dropped the 100# load at my front door.
I tell you all this to report their customer support has been very good.? After requesting photos of the packaging, they asked if I needed a replacement of any or all components.? All the parts look very rugged and apparently survived. Nothing was broken, scratched
or dented.? I have yet to assemble it on my Felder year 2004 K700S, as I was asked by Nancy to wait for Christmas.? I've received several follow up messages since from Nathan Anderson, asking if I am making progress on the installation and giving me assurance
they were there to help.? Currently the price is $850 and I think is a good price.? I'll let you all know after I get it installed and the saw running.
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On Dec 30, 2020, at 7:41 PM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote: ?
True, but a 50A continuous load must have a breaker larger than 50A because of the 80% rule (there are special breakers rated for 100% load, but they aren’t what you’d put in your home power box), which is actually a 65A breaker, commonly
rounded down to 60A. 60A breakers should have #4.
?
#6 Cu is rated for 55A @ 60C
#6 AL is rated for 50A @ 75C
I believe NEC derate for the wires to be in the wall cavity. Is there a different standard for machine cables/ext wires? I guess it would have to be based upon the length of said cable.
In the same vain, as you stated, the wires that my felder machines came with are substantially smaller gauge than what I had to use per code.
On Dec 30, 2020, at 6:55 PM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote:
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I don’t understand some products’ strange electrical factors. Prior to my Felder, I had a 5HP SawStop which ran at about 19 amps, which clearly requires #10 wire and a 30A breaker, however the cord inlet was not large enough to accept 10-3
SOOW cord. Another example - I just bought a plug-in hybrid vehicle. The most popular level 2 charger on the market is rated for 50 amps of charging current, but the lugs can only accept up to #6 wire.
?
What’s doubly amazing is how these products somehow get UL listed when they don’t meet NEC code.
?
I think the CF531 I just received had the same “maximum 20A OCPD” note in the install documentation, so your little war didn’t hurt enough to fix their stupid documentation.
I had a little war with Felder.? The documentation? for my RL160 said maximum 20 amps.? so that's what my guy installed (scratching his head).
Then the thing did nothing but blow the circuit
I must have spent? ten hours on the phone with their pro league Ex used car salesman? Gaslighhter? telling me how it is all my fault.
So I told them they were coming to NJ? to defend? a suit that I would file in NJ and not in Delaware deliberately,? so as to provide me the opportunity to ask the court to reform their contract and strike their venue selection clause along with my demand
for m payment of the electricians bill for the rewiring job.? If I got one state to strike that clause that'd open them to suite in all states.
A couple weeks later I got a check. .
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On 12/30/20 4:53 PM, Robert Johnson wrote:
With all the recent angst with Felder customer support, I wanted to report on my initial experience with Harvey.
As many of you know Jack Xo makes the Gyro dust collector and basic woodworking machines and bought out Bridge City Tools.
I suggested to my wife that a Shark S-12s Universal Overhead Guard would be great for Christmas.? This was back around Thanksgiving.? It arrive quickly by UPS, however its double wall hex-cell cored cardboard box had been totally shredded and basically held
together just with miles of packaging tape.? I never saw a UPS driver take off so fast after he dropped the 100# load at my front door.
I tell you all this to report their customer support has been very good.? After requesting photos of the packaging, they asked if I needed a replacement of any or all components.? All the parts look very rugged and apparently survived. Nothing was broken, scratched
or dented.? I have yet to assemble it on my Felder year 2004 K700S, as I was asked by Nancy to wait for Christmas.? I've received several follow up messages since from Nathan Anderson, asking if I am making progress on the installation and giving me assurance
they were there to help.? Currently the price is $850 and I think is a good price.? I'll let you all know after I get it installed and the saw running.
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On Dec 30, 2020, at 6:34 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? #6 Cu is rated for 55A @ 60C #6 AL is rated for 50A @ 75C
I believe NEC derate for the wires to be in the wall cavity. Is there a different standard for machine cables/ext wires? I guess it would have to be based upon the length of said cable.
In the same vain, as you stated, the wires that my felder machines came with are substantially smaller gauge than what I had to use per code.
Imran
On Dec 30, 2020, at 6:55 PM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote:
?
I don’t understand some products’ strange electrical factors. Prior to my Felder, I had a 5HP SawStop which ran at about 19 amps, which clearly requires #10 wire and a 30A breaker, however the cord inlet was not large enough to accept 10-3
SOOW cord. Another example - I just bought a plug-in hybrid vehicle. The most popular level 2 charger on the market is rated for 50 amps of charging current, but the lugs can only accept up to #6 wire.
?
What’s doubly amazing is how these products somehow get UL listed when they don’t meet NEC code.
?
I think the CF531 I just received had the same “maximum 20A OCPD” note in the install documentation, so your little war didn’t hurt enough to fix their stupid documentation.
I had a little war with Felder.? The documentation? for my RL160 said maximum 20 amps.? so that's what my guy installed (scratching his head).
Then the thing did nothing but blow the circuit
I must have spent? ten hours on the phone with their pro league Ex used car salesman? Gaslighhter? telling me how it is all my fault.
So I told them they were coming to NJ? to defend? a suit that I would file in NJ and not in Delaware deliberately,? so as to provide me the opportunity to ask the court to reform their contract and strike their venue selection clause along with my demand
for m payment of the electricians bill for the rewiring job.? If I got one state to strike that clause that'd open them to suite in all states.
A couple weeks later I got a check. .
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On 12/30/20 4:53 PM, Robert Johnson wrote:
With all the recent angst with Felder customer support, I wanted to report on my initial experience with Harvey.
As many of you know Jack Xo makes the Gyro dust collector and basic woodworking machines and bought out Bridge City Tools.
I suggested to my wife that a Shark S-12s Universal Overhead Guard would be great for Christmas.? This was back around Thanksgiving.? It arrive quickly by UPS, however its double wall hex-cell cored cardboard box had been totally shredded and basically held
together just with miles of packaging tape.? I never saw a UPS driver take off so fast after he dropped the 100# load at my front door.
I tell you all this to report their customer support has been very good.? After requesting photos of the packaging, they asked if I needed a replacement of any or all components.? All the parts look very rugged and apparently survived. Nothing was broken, scratched
or dented.? I have yet to assemble it on my Felder year 2004 K700S, as I was asked by Nancy to wait for Christmas.? I've received several follow up messages since from Nathan Anderson, asking if I am making progress on the installation and giving me assurance
they were there to help.? Currently the price is $850 and I think is a good price.? I'll let you all know after I get it installed and the saw running.
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Re: Dealing with woodworking machine companies - Harvey
It is the nature of discussion forums - topics drift and circle back. You can take comfort that so far no one is disagreeing with you about Harvey.?
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On Dec 30, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Robert Johnson <woodewe@...> wrote:
?Interesting; I say nice things about Harvey and the thread immediately circles back to the frustration with Felder?
I should have started my message with the title as "Harvey, Dealing with...", except then I'll would have been reminded this site is supposed to be Felder centrist ;-).
-Bob
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Re: Dealing with woodworking machine companies - Harvey
Interesting; I say nice things about Harvey and the thread immediately circles back to the frustration with Felder?
I should have started my message with the title as "Harvey, Dealing with...", except then I'll would have been reminded this site is supposed to be Felder centrist ;-).
-Bob
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Re: Dealing with woodworking machine companies - Harvey
True, but a 50A continuous load must have a breaker larger than 50A because of the 80% rule (there are special breakers rated for 100% load, but they aren’t what you’d put in your home power box), which is actually a 65A breaker, commonly
rounded down to 60A. 60A breakers should have #4.
?
#6 Cu is rated for 55A @ 60C
#6 AL is rated for 50A @ 75C
I believe NEC derate for the wires to be in the wall cavity. Is there a different standard for machine cables/ext wires? I guess it would have to be based upon the length of said cable.
In the same vain, as you stated, the wires that my felder machines came with are substantially smaller gauge than what I had to use per code.
On Dec 30, 2020, at 6:55 PM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote:
?
I don’t understand some products’ strange electrical factors. Prior to my Felder, I had a 5HP SawStop which ran at about 19 amps, which clearly requires #10 wire and a 30A breaker, however the cord inlet was not large enough to accept 10-3
SOOW cord. Another example - I just bought a plug-in hybrid vehicle. The most popular level 2 charger on the market is rated for 50 amps of charging current, but the lugs can only accept up to #6 wire.
?
What’s doubly amazing is how these products somehow get UL listed when they don’t meet NEC code.
?
I think the CF531 I just received had the same “maximum 20A OCPD” note in the install documentation, so your little war didn’t hurt enough to fix their stupid documentation.
I had a little war with Felder.? The documentation? for my RL160 said maximum 20 amps.? so that's what my guy installed (scratching his head).
Then the thing did nothing but blow the circuit
I must have spent? ten hours on the phone with their pro league Ex used car salesman? Gaslighhter? telling me how it is all my fault.
So I told them they were coming to NJ? to defend? a suit that I would file in NJ and not in Delaware deliberately,? so as to provide me the opportunity to ask the court to reform their contract and strike their venue selection clause along with my demand
for m payment of the electricians bill for the rewiring job.? If I got one state to strike that clause that'd open them to suite in all states.
A couple weeks later I got a check. .
?
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On 12/30/20 4:53 PM, Robert Johnson wrote:
With all the recent angst with Felder customer support, I wanted to report on my initial experience with Harvey.
As many of you know Jack Xo makes the Gyro dust collector and basic woodworking machines and bought out Bridge City Tools.
I suggested to my wife that a Shark S-12s Universal Overhead Guard would be great for Christmas.? This was back around Thanksgiving.? It arrive quickly by UPS, however its double wall hex-cell cored cardboard box had been totally shredded and basically held
together just with miles of packaging tape.? I never saw a UPS driver take off so fast after he dropped the 100# load at my front door.
I tell you all this to report their customer support has been very good.? After requesting photos of the packaging, they asked if I needed a replacement of any or all components.? All the parts look very rugged and apparently survived. Nothing was broken, scratched
or dented.? I have yet to assemble it on my Felder year 2004 K700S, as I was asked by Nancy to wait for Christmas.? I've received several follow up messages since from Nathan Anderson, asking if I am making progress on the installation and giving me assurance
they were there to help.? Currently the price is $850 and I think is a good price.? I'll let you all know after I get it installed and the saw running.
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