Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
Jonathan,
I have Felder DRO on my crosscut fence.
I am making the F&F jig with DRO, and will post photos after I am done.
James
Hi James. Would you be prepared to post photos of your DRO set up on the crosscut fence? Kindest regards
Jonathan Samways
Imran,
After watching the youtube video?, I tried to find the DRO on AliExpress, was shocked to see the price, cause I recalled people mentioned here before it was about US$400.?
I was hesitant?to buy it in the first place because of the low price. I found many stores on AliExpress sell the same DRO at different prices, I also found the company in China that produces the DRO, it is legit. They do wholesale, and the price is even better.?
I found the store sells the M503 with many positive reviews, all the reviews are from foreign buyers. I am sure most buyers do not bother to post the review.
I received the new M503 with magnetic?tape, well packed. The M503 DRO also works with the magnetic tape on my Felder crosscut fence.
I am not saying you should buy it, you make your own decision to use your money :)
James
James,
$500 price was shared here from a reputable source in USA. Here is what I saved from a FOG email pre-pandemic:
MA503/2-0001 - $579.40/ea MA504/1-0001 - $326.70/ea (alternate to above has display for fractions) MS500H-0001? - 307.70/ea MB500/1-0019 - 325.20 for 3m of scale
Here is Siko website:
I have no idea what you received from Ali Express. If you are lucky a new unit that someone had laying around. Or it could be a salvaged unit from a machine or worst case a counterfeit, as one cannot buy a DRO of this type/class from a reputable source for that price. ? Imran,
What do you mean the new costs $500 ? What I see is C$84.31, which should be about US$62 based on the current exchange rate.  James Okay. The new costs ~$500. I tried Ali Express once and not doing it again.? ? Imran,
It (DRO plus 1 meter magnetic band) was CAD$ 69 when I bought it in November.
The only thing I do not like is the cable is too long, I need to shorten it, not so easy to do if you do not have the right tools. I did not find the DRO with the short cable though. Besides, you cannot turn it off like it is mentioned in the youtube video. The manual says two batteries will last a year. 
James
James,
How much is the M503?
I did not contact them but the prices shared here were on par with Fiama F7 (about $300). I splurged for F8 for larger display digits. I also liked the design Stan Blaszczyk created. ? I do not know why FIAMA DRO is so expensive.
I watched?, bought the very affordable M503 DRO with 1 meter magnetic?band at CAD$ 69, received in 12 days. I am building the DRO F&F jig now, it also can be used as a DRO parallel guide.
James
I shared a short video of this earlier. Here are the "how to" details.
Imran Malik
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Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
Hi James. Would you be prepared to post photos of your DRO set up on the crosscut fence? Kindest regards
Jonathan Samways
Imran,
After watching the youtube video?, I tried to find the DRO on AliExpress, was shocked to see the price, cause I recalled people mentioned here before it was about US$400.?
I was hesitant?to buy it in the first place because of the low price. I found many stores on AliExpress sell the same DRO at different prices, I also found the company in China that produces the DRO, it is legit. They do wholesale, and the price is even better.?
I found the store sells the M503 with many positive reviews, all the reviews are from foreign buyers. I am sure most buyers do not bother to post the review.
I received the new M503 with magnetic?tape, well packed. The M503 DRO also works with the magnetic tape on my Felder crosscut fence.
I am not saying you should buy it, you make your own decision to use your money :)
James
James,
$500 price was shared here from a reputable source in USA. Here is what I saved from a FOG email pre-pandemic:
MA503/2-0001 - $579.40/ea MA504/1-0001 - $326.70/ea (alternate to above has display for fractions) MS500H-0001? - 307.70/ea MB500/1-0019 - 325.20 for 3m of scale
Here is Siko website:
I have no idea what you received from Ali Express. If you are lucky a new unit that someone had laying around. Or it could be a salvaged unit from a machine or worst case a counterfeit, as one cannot buy a DRO of this type/class from a reputable source for that price. ? Imran,
What do you mean the new costs $500 ? What I see is C$84.31, which should be about US$62 based on the current exchange rate.  James Okay. The new costs ~$500. I tried Ali Express once and not doing it again.? ? Imran,
It (DRO plus 1 meter magnetic band) was CAD$ 69 when I bought it in November.
The only thing I do not like is the cable is too long, I need to shorten it, not so easy to do if you do not have the right tools. I did not find the DRO with the short cable though. Besides, you cannot turn it off like it is mentioned in the youtube video. The manual says two batteries will last a year. 
James
James,
How much is the M503?
I did not contact them but the prices shared here were on par with Fiama F7 (about $300). I splurged for F8 for larger display digits. I also liked the design Stan Blaszczyk created. ? I do not know why FIAMA DRO is so expensive.
I watched?, bought the very affordable M503 DRO with 1 meter magnetic?band at CAD$ 69, received in 12 days. I am building the DRO F&F jig now, it also can be used as a DRO parallel guide.
James
I shared a short video of this earlier. Here are the "how to" details.
Imran Malik
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Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
Hi James,
I doubt very much that these are Siko manufactured units based upon the price. But at the same time if they work one is free to buy it. It is just not for me.
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On Dec 6, 2022, at 10:41 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote: ? Imran,
After watching the youtube video?, I tried to find the DRO on AliExpress, was shocked to see the price, cause I recalled people mentioned here before it was about US$400.?
I was hesitant?to buy it in the first place because of the low price. I found many stores on AliExpress sell the same DRO at different prices, I also found the company in China that produces the DRO, it is legit. They do wholesale, and the price is even better.?
I found the store sells the M503 with many positive reviews, all the reviews are from foreign buyers. I am sure most buyers do not bother to post the review.
I received the new M503 with magnetic?tape, well packed. The M503 DRO also works with the magnetic tape on my Felder crosscut fence.
I am not saying you should buy it, you make your own decision to use your money :)
James
James,
$500 price was shared here from a reputable source in USA. Here is what I saved from a FOG email pre-pandemic:
MA503/2-0001 - $579.40/ea MA504/1-0001 - $326.70/ea (alternate to above has display for fractions) MS500H-0001? - 307.70/ea MB500/1-0019 - 325.20 for 3m of scale
Here is Siko website:
I have no idea what you received from Ali Express. If you are lucky a new unit that someone had laying around. Or it could be a salvaged unit from a machine or worst case a counterfeit, as one cannot buy a DRO of this type/class from a reputable source for that price. ? Imran,
What do you mean the new costs $500 ? What I see is C$84.31, which should be about US$62 based on the current exchange rate.  James Okay. The new costs ~$500. I tried Ali Express once and not doing it again.? ? Imran,
It (DRO plus 1 meter magnetic band) was CAD$ 69 when I bought it in November.
The only thing I do not like is the cable is too long, I need to shorten it, not so easy to do if you do not have the right tools. I did not find the DRO with the short cable though. Besides, you cannot turn it off like it is mentioned in the youtube video. The manual says two batteries will last a year. 
James
James,
How much is the M503?
I did not contact them but the prices shared here were on par with Fiama F7 (about $300). I splurged for F8 for larger display digits. I also liked the design Stan Blaszczyk created. ? I do not know why FIAMA DRO is so expensive.
I watched?, bought the very affordable M503 DRO with 1 meter magnetic?band at CAD$ 69, received in 12 days. I am building the DRO F&F jig now, it also can be used as a DRO parallel guide.
James
I shared a short video of this earlier. Here are the "how to" details.
Imran Malik
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Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
Imran,
After watching the youtube video?, I tried to find the DRO on AliExpress, was shocked to see the price, cause I recalled people mentioned here before it was about US$400.?
I was hesitant?to buy it in the first place because of the low price. I found many stores on AliExpress sell the same DRO at different prices, I also found the company in China that produces the DRO, it is legit. They do wholesale, and the price is even better.?
I found the store sells the M503 with many positive reviews, all the reviews are from foreign buyers. I am sure most buyers do not bother to post the review.
I received the new M503 with magnetic?tape, well packed. The M503 DRO also works with the magnetic tape on my Felder crosscut fence.
I am not saying you should buy it, you make your own decision to use your money :)
James
James,
$500 price was shared here from a reputable source in USA. Here is what I saved from a FOG email pre-pandemic:
MA503/2-0001 - $579.40/ea MA504/1-0001 - $326.70/ea (alternate to above has display for fractions) MS500H-0001? - 307.70/ea MB500/1-0019 - 325.20 for 3m of scale
Here is Siko website:
I have no idea what you received from Ali Express. If you are lucky a new unit that someone had laying around. Or it could be a salvaged unit from a machine or worst case a counterfeit, as one cannot buy a DRO of this type/class from a reputable source for that price. ? Imran,
What do you mean the new costs $500 ? What I see is C$84.31, which should be about US$62 based on the current exchange rate.  James Okay. The new costs ~$500. I tried Ali Express once and not doing it again.? ? Imran,
It (DRO plus 1 meter magnetic band) was CAD$ 69 when I bought it in November.
The only thing I do not like is the cable is too long, I need to shorten it, not so easy to do if you do not have the right tools. I did not find the DRO with the short cable though. Besides, you cannot turn it off like it is mentioned in the youtube video. The manual says two batteries will last a year. 
James
James,
How much is the M503?
I did not contact them but the prices shared here were on par with Fiama F7 (about $300). I splurged for F8 for larger display digits. I also liked the design Stan Blaszczyk created. ? I do not know why FIAMA DRO is so expensive.
I watched?, bought the very affordable M503 DRO with 1 meter magnetic?band at CAD$ 69, received in 12 days. I am building the DRO F&F jig now, it also can be used as a DRO parallel guide.
James
I shared a short video of this earlier. Here are the "how to" details.
Imran Malik
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Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
James,
$500 price was shared here from a reputable source in USA. Here is what I saved from a FOG email pre-pandemic:
MA503/2-0001 - $579.40/ea MA504/1-0001 - $326.70/ea (alternate to above has display for fractions) MS500H-0001? - 307.70/ea MB500/1-0019 - 325.20 for 3m of scale
Here is Siko website:
I have no idea what you received from Ali Express. If you are lucky a new unit that someone had laying around. Or it could be a salvaged unit from a machine or worst case a counterfeit, as one cannot buy a DRO of this type/class from a reputable source for that price.
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On Dec 6, 2022, at 8:02 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote: ? Imran,
What do you mean the new costs $500 ? What I see is C$84.31, which should be about US$62 based on the current exchange rate.  James Okay. The new costs ~$500. I tried Ali Express once and not doing it again.? ? Imran,
It (DRO plus 1 meter magnetic band) was CAD$ 69 when I bought it in November.
The only thing I do not like is the cable is too long, I need to shorten it, not so easy to do if you do not have the right tools. I did not find the DRO with the short cable though. Besides, you cannot turn it off like it is mentioned in the youtube video. The manual says two batteries will last a year. 
James
James,
How much is the M503?
I did not contact them but the prices shared here were on par with Fiama F7 (about $300). I splurged for F8 for larger display digits. I also liked the design Stan Blaszczyk created. ? I do not know why FIAMA DRO is so expensive.
I watched?, bought the very affordable M503 DRO with 1 meter magnetic?band at CAD$ 69, received in 12 days. I am building the DRO F&F jig now, it also can be used as a DRO parallel guide.
James
I shared a short video of this earlier. Here are the "how to" details.
Imran Malik
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Re: Opinions on Alpine Workshop?
Hi Brandon,?
I have nothing but good things to say about the Alpine classes. If you¡¯re new to the sliding table saw and shaper, then the ¡°Advanced Joinery¡± class will give you a huge head start in terms of safe, efficient work practices.?
The Alpine classes are small (6 or fewer), which gives you plenty of access to the instructor and plenty of time on the machines. Joe (instructor) is knowledgeable and patient, and Greg (host) is great at making sure you get the most out of the trip.?
When I took my first Alpine class I already twenty years experience as an on-site remodeling/trim carpenter, but I absolutely got my money¡¯s worth in terms of getting a handle on heavier ¡°shop¡± machinery, and was a real boost as I¡¯m transitioning from primarily on-site to shop- based work.?
For what it¡¯s worth, I have a line item in the company budget to attend an Alpine class every year going forward¡?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
Imran
yes. Definitely think we should collaborate on crosscut fence DRO.?
stan
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Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
I'm going to buy a couple of these Chinese DRO's and have a play. I tried going the Italian DRO route, basically they don't answer there mail. Kindest regards
Jonathan Samways
Actually mounting any DRO on the slider rip fence is a lot easier than mounting on the crosscut fence. Here below one buyer did it on his slider's rip fence.
James
Wade,
I do not see why it cannot be adapted to any slider saw crosscut/rip fence. All the DROs work the same. If you have a milling machine or laser printer, it would be easy to make the housing for the DRO unit, otherwise, you just have to be creative to make it work, it may not be pretty, but as long as it works, it is fine.
Here below is the review from one buyer. It does not have the micro adjust though.? I have the Felder DRO with micro adjust on my KF700sp crosscut fence, really nice.
I just found the LP02 DRO mentioned in the youtube video, it is supposed to have the short cable. I believe the unit (M503 and LP02) is made by the same company. James James Zhu,
Could the M503 DRO be adapted to a K700S rip fence? ?
Thx,
Wade ? I do not know why FIAMA DRO is so expensive.
I watched?, bought the very affordable M503 DRO with 1 meter magnetic?band at CAD$ 69, received in 12 days. I am building the DRO F&F jig now, it also can be used as a DRO parallel guide.
James
I shared a short video of this earlier. Here are the "how to" details.
Imran Malik
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Re: Opinions on Alpine Workshop?
I just attended Alpine in October. Having no prior experience with shapers I found this experience invaluable. Safety is emphasized every step of the way. Joe and Greg are great resources. I would highly recommended it.
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On Dec 5, 2022, at 10:41 PM, Bird Cupps < birdc@...> wrote:
Sounds interesting.
PK ? ?Do the Alpine Workshop before you buy shaper tooling (And because it was amazing).? I?thought?I knew what I needed.? I was wrong! ? Bon May ? My wife found out about the Alpine workshops and bought me the Advanced Jointery class for Christmas last year, and I was looking forward to it but had no idea how it would change my life.
Joe as teacher and Greg as sponsor were a fantastic team. As we got into set-up, then operation of machines, I started to really grasp what the buzz about the classes was all about. I found out how valuable having someone with that much experience truly was. It opened up my eyes to techniques and process and operations that I would never have known that have completely changed my woodworking and made it much more than I ever imagined.
But along with the instructions was the hands on operation of the machines at the class- top of the line newer machines with digital displays, well set up, and with Mac's clamps. having the ability to go back to a machine and have repeatability and accuracy and do it quickly was eye opening for me. And with the addition of the Mac clamps, which I thought would be nice before using them but after using them I see they are something that might be the biggest safety upgrade in my shop, After using them I see the cost versus benefit to me makes them a very cheap purchase... plus they open up more capabilities on your machines and give you a greater comfort level and give you more confidence in what you can do.
But as I said, this was after I bought my shaper. If I had went to the class before I bought my shaper I would have ordered some different things and maybe even a different model. And after seeing what the better machines offered as far as more time working and a higher degree of accuracy and safety I have started the transition to new machines and away from the old ones. Without the class I never would have seen these things.
So my recommendation to you is before you buy any machine based on others thoughts, make the decision to go to the Alpine workshop, get your hands on good machines with the good instruction the class gives you, and then think about what you would like having been armed with some options and experience to base your decision from. ? This is where the Alpine class might be of great help to you. Joe has a newish Martin slider, well equipped, and an older Martin slider that is very well restored. Being an old machine guy I thought that would be the saw I preferred, but after using the big slider with the jigs and clamps and the instruction on them, I saw how much better the new and modern slider was, mainly from it was right and tight in it's operation but also with the addition of the clamps and Fritz and Franz jigs. I did things and felt safe doing them that I would have never tackled at my shop the way my saw was set up.
It was the same with his shapers. Three newish ones and one restored. The restored one is really nice and very attractive, but as far as set-up and operation I much preferred the newer ones. I did not see that coming.
I would still get a jointer and planer to begin with, but if you go see the capability of a well equipped slider versus a cabinet saw or track saws, you will have a much better perspective to go forward from. Tom Gensmer ? The appeal of the Alpine classes is that they're only 4 days and very targeted, so it's easier for me to step away for a week here- and there- to advance my career. ? Habacomike ? Just got back from the Alpine Workshops Advanced Joinery class ¡ª what a good investment of time! ?As a result, I¡¯m looking to upgrade my methods of work.? ? Eric Janson ? Yes, it's well worth it. Ultimate Joe is the perfect instructor- knowledgeable, tireless and patient. The shop has everything you can think of, plus a bit more that you couldn't think of. Greg G is there to lend expert support,?and no doubt you'll want?to take?advantage of?the?student discount on some Rangate cutters. Ouray is a destination in its own right, with raw beauty, great hiking and excellent restaurants, plus interesting sites nearby for partners who come along for the ride. Be advised, if you are coming by car from the east, that Route 50 closes weekdays for many hours per day for canyon construction. The detour on Rte 92 through Hotchkiss adds about 1h20m but offers some spectacular scenery along the way. BTW, Joe is also a Martin rep and can source Aigner fences, too.? You and your money will soon be parted - but you'll be happy about it ;-) Cheers and good luck on the course ? Glen Christensen ? Another great Resource is the Alpine Work Shop. Joe Cahoon give a great class on woodworking joinery which is for the most part all shaper time. Not only does he teach you how to use it conventionally, He shows how to to clime cut, plunging cutting, radius shaping? among other stuff I cant remember. a 4 day class worth every penny and they are fun people. i am setting up to go back and do the advance joinery class again this year now that the class will make more sense to me now and going forward with the lift and slide and the euro window classes.I recommend that if you need a good breaking to what a shaper is really capable to do, take the first class....however don't do it this year as I am going and want the class size small. Lol ? Alex Bowlds ? I was completely new to the use of the shaper. ?I too didn¡¯t have a clue how to get started. ?I learned of the Alpine Technical Workshops that are taught by Joe Calhoun in Ouray Colorado. ?Greg Godbout of Rangate facilitates the logistics for these classes. ?While attending the first class, I worked with Greg to get a starter set of shaper tools. ?Since then, I have been adding to my set as I determine my needs. ?I was told that the shaper is one machine that will ultimately have more expense in tooling than the machine. ?I¡¯ve got a good start on that. ? I would recommend you consider taking one or more of the Alpine classes. ?They focus on the SAFE use of the shaper. ?While there, you will get ample opportunity to discuss your tooling needs with Greg, Joe, and the other students. ?Plus, Greg provides a great discount on tooling to Alpine attendees. ?And the bonus is you get to learn how to keep all your digits while using the shaper. ?The classes aren¡¯t cheap, in my opinion, they are worth every penny. ?Class size is limited to six or less.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
Actually mounting any DRO on the slider rip fence is a lot easier than mounting on the crosscut fence. Here below one buyer did it on his slider's rip fence.
James
Wade,
I do not see why it cannot be adapted to any slider saw crosscut/rip fence. All the DROs work the same. If you have a milling machine or laser printer, it would be easy to make the housing for the DRO unit, otherwise, you just have to be creative to make it work, it may not be pretty, but as long as it works, it is fine.
Here below is the review from one buyer. It does not have the micro adjust though.? I have the Felder DRO with micro adjust on my KF700sp crosscut fence, really nice.
I just found the LP02 DRO mentioned in the youtube video, it is supposed to have the short cable. I believe the unit (M503 and LP02) is made by the same company. James James Zhu,
Could the M503 DRO be adapted to a K700S rip fence? ?
Thx,
Wade ? I do not know why FIAMA DRO is so expensive.
I watched?, bought the very affordable M503 DRO with 1 meter magnetic?band at CAD$ 69, received in 12 days. I am building the DRO F&F jig now, it also can be used as a DRO parallel guide.
James
I shared a short video of this earlier. Here are the "how to" details.
Imran Malik
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Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
Wade,
I do not see why it cannot be adapted to any slider saw crosscut/rip fence. All the DROs work the same. If you have a milling machine or laser printer, it would be easy to make the housing for the DRO unit, otherwise, you just have to be creative to make it work, it may not be pretty, but as long as it works, it is fine.
Here below is the review from one buyer. It does not have the micro adjust though.? I have the Felder DRO with micro adjust on my KF700sp crosscut fence, really nice.
I just found the LP02 DRO mentioned in the youtube video, it is supposed to have the short cable. I believe the unit (M503 and LP02) is made by the same company.
James
James Zhu,
Could the M503 DRO be adapted to a K700S rip fence? ?
Thx,
Wade ? I do not know why FIAMA DRO is so expensive.
I watched?, bought the very affordable M503 DRO with 1 meter magnetic?band at CAD$ 69, received in 12 days. I am building the DRO F&F jig now, it also can be used as a DRO parallel guide.
James
I shared a short video of this earlier. Here are the "how to" details.
Imran Malik
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Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
Imran,
What do you mean the new costs $500 ? What I see is C$84.31, which should be about US$62 based on the current exchange rate.  James
Okay. The new costs ~$500. I tried Ali Express once and not doing it again.? ? Imran,
It (DRO plus 1 meter magnetic band) was CAD$ 69 when I bought it in November.
The only thing I do not like is the cable is too long, I need to shorten it, not so easy to do if you do not have the right tools. I did not find the DRO with the short cable though. Besides, you cannot turn it off like it is mentioned in the youtube video. The manual says two batteries will last a year. 
James
James,
How much is the M503?
I did not contact them but the prices shared here were on par with Fiama F7 (about $300). I splurged for F8 for larger display digits. I also liked the design Stan Blaszczyk created. ? I do not know why FIAMA DRO is so expensive.
I watched?, bought the very affordable M503 DRO with 1 meter magnetic?band at CAD$ 69, received in 12 days. I am building the DRO F&F jig now, it also can be used as a DRO parallel guide.
James
I shared a short video of this earlier. Here are the "how to" details.
Imran Malik
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Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
Hi Jonathan,
I am thinking about looking into it next yr.
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On Dec 6, 2022, at 7:21 AM, jontathan samways <jonathansamways@...> wrote: ? Any ideas on fitting a similar dro to outrigger crosscut fence? Kindest regards
Jonathan Samways
James Zhu,
Could the M503 DRO be adapted to a K700S rip fence? ?
Thx,
Wade ? I do not know why FIAMA DRO is so expensive.
I watched?, bought the very affordable M503 DRO with 1 meter magnetic?band at CAD$ 69, received in 12 days. I am building the DRO F&F jig now, it also can be used as a DRO parallel guide.
James
I shared a short video of this earlier. Here are the "how to" details.
Imran Malik
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Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
Okay. The new costs ~$500. I tried Ali Express once and not doing it again.?
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On Dec 5, 2022, at 10:53 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote: ? Imran,
It (DRO plus 1 meter magnetic band) was CAD$ 69 when I bought it in November.
The only thing I do not like is the cable is too long, I need to shorten it, not so easy to do if you do not have the right tools. I did not find the DRO with the short cable though. Besides, you cannot turn it off like it is mentioned in the youtube video. The manual says two batteries will last a year. 
James
James,
How much is the M503?
I did not contact them but the prices shared here were on par with Fiama F7 (about $300). I splurged for F8 for larger display digits. I also liked the design Stan Blaszczyk created. ? I do not know why FIAMA DRO is so expensive.
I watched?, bought the very affordable M503 DRO with 1 meter magnetic?band at CAD$ 69, received in 12 days. I am building the DRO F&F jig now, it also can be used as a DRO parallel guide.
James
I shared a short video of this earlier. Here are the "how to" details.
Imran Malik
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Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
Any ideas on fitting a similar dro to outrigger crosscut fence? Kindest regards
Jonathan Samways
James Zhu,
Could the M503 DRO be adapted to a K700S rip fence? ?
Thx,
Wade ? I do not know why FIAMA DRO is so expensive.
I watched?, bought the very affordable M503 DRO with 1 meter magnetic?band at CAD$ 69, received in 12 days. I am building the DRO F&F jig now, it also can be used as a DRO parallel guide.
James
I shared a short video of this earlier. Here are the "how to" details.
Imran Malik
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Re: One dust collector to rule them all?
Lucky,?
I had Hydrovane before, and my current compressor is a 7.5kw silent piston compressor by Chicago pneumatics, I think I had it more than 5 years now. minimum maintenance needed.?
I didnt touch screw compressor cos I know I dont have the continuous needs of air - for screw compressor they NEED to be run continuously..?
going back to the dust extraction, my current extractor is a Nederman S750. very happy with it.?
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Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
James Zhu,
Could the M503 DRO be adapted to a K700S rip fence? ?
Thx,
Wade
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On Dec 5, 2022, at 7:29 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? I do not know why FIAMA DRO is so expensive.
I watched?, bought the very affordable M503 DRO with 1 meter magnetic?band at CAD$ 69, received in 12 days. I am building the DRO F&F jig now, it also can be used as a DRO parallel guide.
James
I shared a short video of this earlier. Here are the "how to" details.
Imran Malik
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Re: Opinions on Alpine Workshop?
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PK ? ?Do the Alpine Workshop before you buy shaper tooling (And because it was amazing).? I?thought?I knew what I needed.? I was wrong! ? Bon May ? My wife found out about the Alpine workshops and bought me the Advanced Jointery class for Christmas last year, and I was looking forward to it but had no idea how it would change my life.
Joe as teacher and Greg as sponsor were a fantastic team. As we got into set-up, then operation of machines, I started to really grasp what the buzz about the classes was all about. I found out how valuable having someone with that much experience truly was. It opened up my eyes to techniques and process and operations that I would never have known that have completely changed my woodworking and made it much more than I ever imagined.
But along with the instructions was the hands on operation of the machines at the class- top of the line newer machines with digital displays, well set up, and with Mac's clamps. having the ability to go back to a machine and have repeatability and accuracy and do it quickly was eye opening for me. And with the addition of the Mac clamps, which I thought would be nice before using them but after using them I see they are something that might be the biggest safety upgrade in my shop, After using them I see the cost versus benefit to me makes them a very cheap purchase... plus they open up more capabilities on your machines and give you a greater comfort level and give you more confidence in what you can do.
But as I said, this was after I bought my shaper. If I had went to the class before I bought my shaper I would have ordered some different things and maybe even a different model. And after seeing what the better machines offered as far as more time working and a higher degree of accuracy and safety I have started the transition to new machines and away from the old ones. Without the class I never would have seen these things.
So my recommendation to you is before you buy any machine based on others thoughts, make the decision to go to the Alpine workshop, get your hands on good machines with the good instruction the class gives you, and then think about what you would like having been armed with some options and experience to base your decision from. ? This is where the Alpine class might be of great help to you. Joe has a newish Martin slider, well equipped, and an older Martin slider that is very well restored. Being an old machine guy I thought that would be the saw I preferred, but after using the big slider with the jigs and clamps and the instruction on them, I saw how much better the new and modern slider was, mainly from it was right and tight in it's operation but also with the addition of the clamps and Fritz and Franz jigs. I did things and felt safe doing them that I would have never tackled at my shop the way my saw was set up.
It was the same with his shapers. Three newish ones and one restored. The restored one is really nice and very attractive, but as far as set-up and operation I much preferred the newer ones. I did not see that coming.
I would still get a jointer and planer to begin with, but if you go see the capability of a well equipped slider versus a cabinet saw or track saws, you will have a much better perspective to go forward from. Tom Gensmer ? The appeal of the Alpine classes is that they're only 4 days and very targeted, so it's easier for me to step away for a week here- and there- to advance my career. ? Habacomike ? Just got back from the Alpine Workshops Advanced Joinery class ¡ª what a good investment of time! ?As a result, I¡¯m looking to upgrade my methods of work.? ? Eric Janson ? Yes, it's well worth it. Ultimate Joe is the perfect instructor- knowledgeable, tireless and patient. The shop has everything you can think of, plus a bit more that you couldn't think of. Greg G is there to lend expert support,?and no doubt you'll want?to take?advantage of?the?student discount on some Rangate cutters. Ouray is a destination in its own right, with raw beauty, great hiking and excellent restaurants, plus interesting sites nearby for partners who come along for the ride. Be advised, if you are coming by car from the east, that Route 50 closes weekdays for many hours per day for canyon construction. The detour on Rte 92 through Hotchkiss adds about 1h20m but offers some spectacular scenery along the way. BTW, Joe is also a Martin rep and can source Aigner fences, too.? You and your money will soon be parted - but you'll be happy about it ;-) Cheers and good luck on the course ? Glen Christensen ? Another great Resource is the Alpine Work Shop. Joe Cahoon give a great class on woodworking joinery which is for the most part all shaper time. Not only does he teach you how to use it conventionally, He shows how to to clime cut, plunging cutting, radius shaping? among other stuff I cant remember. a 4 day class worth every penny and they are fun people. i am setting up to go back and do the advance joinery class again this year now that the class will make more sense to me now and going forward with the lift and slide and the euro window classes.I recommend that if you need a good breaking to what a shaper is really capable to do, take the first class....however don't do it this year as I am going and want the class size small. Lol ? Alex Bowlds ? I was completely new to the use of the shaper. ?I too didn¡¯t have a clue how to get started. ?I learned of the Alpine Technical Workshops that are taught by Joe Calhoun in Ouray Colorado. ?Greg Godbout of Rangate facilitates the logistics for these classes. ?While attending the first class, I worked with Greg to get a starter set of shaper tools. ?Since then, I have been adding to my set as I determine my needs. ?I was told that the shaper is one machine that will ultimately have more expense in tooling than the machine. ?I¡¯ve got a good start on that. ? I would recommend you consider taking one or more of the Alpine classes. ?They focus on the SAFE use of the shaper. ?While there, you will get ample opportunity to discuss your tooling needs with Greg, Joe, and the other students. ?Plus, Greg provides a great discount on tooling to Alpine attendees. ?And the bonus is you get to learn how to keep all your digits while using the shaper. ?The classes aren¡¯t cheap, in my opinion, they are worth every penny. ?Class size is limited to six or less.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
Imran,
It (DRO plus 1 meter magnetic band) was CAD$ 69 when I bought it in November.
The only thing I do not like is the cable is too long, I need to shorten it, not so easy to do if you do not have the right tools. I did not find the DRO with the short cable though. Besides, you cannot turn it off like it is mentioned in the youtube video. The manual says two batteries will last a year. 
James
James,
How much is the M503?
I did not contact them but the prices shared here were on par with Fiama F7 (about $300). I splurged for F8 for larger display digits. I also liked the design Stan Blaszczyk created. ? I do not know why FIAMA DRO is so expensive.
I watched?, bought the very affordable M503 DRO with 1 meter magnetic?band at CAD$ 69, received in 12 days. I am building the DRO F&F jig now, it also can be used as a DRO parallel guide.
James
I shared a short video of this earlier. Here are the "how to" details.
Imran Malik
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Re: Details of adding FIAMA DRO to Felder K975 Rip Fence
James,
How much is the M503?
I did not contact them but the prices shared here were on par with Fiama F7 (about $300). I splurged for F8 for larger display digits. I also liked the design Stan Blaszczyk created.
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On Dec 5, 2022, at 10:28 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote: ? I do not know why FIAMA DRO is so expensive.
I watched?, bought the very affordable M503 DRO with 1 meter magnetic?band at CAD$ 69, received in 12 days. I am building the DRO F&F jig now, it also can be used as a DRO parallel guide.
James
I shared a short video of this earlier. Here are the "how to" details.
Imran Malik
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