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Re: Fat300 and Material Handling

 

Is Ruwi available in the US? Who is their distributor?


Re: Fat300 and Material Handling

 

Great video!? I made my own flip cart which works ok, but no up and down ability.--
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Re: Fat300 and Material Handling

 

Thank you Steve, your video is helpful. I’ve been trying to figure out what I need, and have had difficulty making a decision.


Re: planer power drive height adjustment?

 

Imran,

I submitted an online question to Felder a few days back but have yet to hear a response.

So our initial theory was correct, it is a software version displayed.

This begs the question, why does Marty's not show anything?

-Ameer


Re: Kappa Error Code Issue

 

I like mending, repairing machine,??just for that reason... cause i can !!!!?


Re: Friends saw

 

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Thanks again?
Good to know to be able to help with realistic value in this market


On Jul 30, 2021, at 12:28 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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This lesser 2002 KF700 3phase with no accessories and shorter slider sold for $6727 — ?$5850 + 877 (15% buyer’s fee) just now.


Imran

On Jul 27, 2021, at 6:47 PM, keith meyer <Meyer.keith25@...> wrote:

?Great info Andrea questions. Can’t wait to get over there and look at the unit to see what accessories are there. Will definitely send more info when I have it. Can’t thank you all enough for the kindness and the help. Keith


On Jul 27, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Ameer N. <highentropy@...> wrote:

?This looks very similar to my KF700 from 2002. I have the 1200mm slider which doesn't even have an outrigger. Original owner paid $8,500 for the KF700 and an AF-22 dust collector so Imran is pretty spot on with his guess.

Is the arbor dado capable? Does it have a scoring blade? Does it come with shaper hood & fence? Is there a crosscut fence? Does the owner have a router spindle? These are all questions I had when I picked up mine.

-Ameer


Re: Kappa Error Code Issue

 

I often look up new machines and end up buying a new machine if my current machine/service disappoints me.... perfectly normal, you only live once and do what you like. personally I hate wasting breath on repairing machines.?


Re: Kappa Error Code Issue

 

On 31/07/2021 04:20, Glen Christensen wrote:
Albert, That was my plan. I am fine with 110/220v but when it comes to 3PH or poking around inside a dark live machine that is worth more than me with a voltage tester I'm out.
So I called Felder and described the issue and he went to i'm going to walk you through testing in which I stopped him
3 PH is just an additional phase, voltage levels are not that much different and most of the circuitry on the machine is fed by low power DC, 24VDC IIRC.


Why not try it with him to see how far you get? You can always stop in the process and decide to have them come over...


No guts, no glory! ;-)


Kind regards,


Jonathan


Re: Kappa Error Code Issue

 

Thank you for that JP,
Maybe I miss understood or was not paying attention during that stressful moment.
Don't get me wrong I love my machine and have absolutely no regrets with any of the Felder machines I own.
I do have a few issues and just though I would give it time before I started hauling support out on ever issue I was finding being I thought I had six years.
I guess my next question would be when does that Warranty period begin? When the arrive at the terminal, When they arrive at my shop or when they were commissioned by Felder?.
Not that it matters now but good to know as I am not done buying machines.
Glen


Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 486
?????????? Murphys , CA. 95247
Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road
????????? Murphys, CA. 95247
????????? 209-540-7501
LIC # 707507


On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 7:45 PM JP Rice via <jprphotos=[email protected]> wrote:
Glen, the 6 yrs is on the tilting segment Easy Guide unfortunately you only get 12 months warranty . Here is the warranty?7.1 Limited Warranty. Felder warrants that each standard machine branded with Felder / Format 4, under normal use and conditions, will comply in all material respects with Felder's applicable written technical documentation for such Product for a period of twelve (12) months with respect to all electrical parts, thirty-six (36) months with respect to mechanical parts and one (1) month with respect to labor. Felder shall have the right to make substitutions and modifications from time to time in the specifications of the Products.
10.4 Excused Performance. Nonperformance of either party, except for financial obligations, shall be excused to the extent that performance is delayed or rendered impossible by strike, fire, flood, governmental acts or orders or restrictions, failure of suppliers, or any other reason beyond the reasonable control and not caused by the negligence of the non-performing party.
Felder warrants that each special machine branded with Felder / Format 4, under normal use and conditions, will comply in all material respects with Felder's applicable written technical documentation for such Product for a period of twelve (12) months with respect to all electrical parts, twelve (12) months with respect to mechanical parts and twelve (12) months with respect to labor.


Re: Kappa Error Code Issue

 

Glen, the 6 yrs is on the tilting segment Easy Guide unfortunately you only get 12 months warranty . Here is the warranty?7.1 Limited Warranty. Felder warrants that each standard machine branded with Felder / Format 4, under normal use and conditions, will comply in all material respects with Felder's applicable written technical documentation for such Product for a period of twelve (12) months with respect to all electrical parts, thirty-six (36) months with respect to mechanical parts and one (1) month with respect to labor. Felder shall have the right to make substitutions and modifications from time to time in the specifications of the Products.
10.4 Excused Performance. Nonperformance of either party, except for financial obligations, shall be excused to the extent that performance is delayed or rendered impossible by strike, fire, flood, governmental acts or orders or restrictions, failure of suppliers, or any other reason beyond the reasonable control and not caused by the negligence of the non-performing party.
Felder warrants that each special machine branded with Felder / Format 4, under normal use and conditions, will comply in all material respects with Felder's applicable written technical documentation for such Product for a period of twelve (12) months with respect to all electrical parts, twelve (12) months with respect to mechanical parts and twelve (12) months with respect to labor.


Re: Kappa Error Code Issue

 

Albert, That was my plan. I am fine with 110/220v but when it comes to 3PH or poking around inside a dark live machine that is worth more than me with a voltage tester I'm out.
So I called Felder and described the issue and he went to i'm going to walk you through testing in which I stopped him and said the machine is under warranty and that I wanted a tech to come out and fix it,
And the response I got was That part only has a 1 year warranty and travel time is 70 and shop time is 125 or something like that.
When I bought this machine I was told 6 year warranty on the machine and 10 yr on the Xroll.. Anyone know if that is the case and I am getting the runaround?
I am actually ok to drop a grand to get this fixed but I have a suspicion that it won't be on one trip. I told him I would call him back.
In frustration I somehow ended up on the Martin website looking at machines......Hum...
Glen ?
Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 486
?????????? Murphys , CA. 95247
Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road
????????? Murphys, CA. 95247
????????? 209-540-7501
LIC # 707507


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 12:55 AM Albert Lee <timbershelf@...> wrote:
I wouldnt touch it if I were you. I dont have experience with electrical stuff as well.

I had similar issue with my SCM spindle moulder when I first started it up couple weeks ago. I tried looking up the manual for the error code but its not there, I called SCM and the tech came resolved the issue.?


Re: Friends saw

 

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This lesser 2002 KF700 3phase with no accessories and shorter slider sold for $6727 — ?$5850 + 877 (15% buyer’s fee) just now.


Imran

On Jul 27, 2021, at 6:47 PM, keith meyer <Meyer.keith25@...> wrote:

?Great info Andrea questions. Can’t wait to get over there and look at the unit to see what accessories are there. Will definitely send more info when I have it. Can’t thank you all enough for the kindness and the help. Keith


On Jul 27, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Ameer N. <highentropy@...> wrote:

?This looks very similar to my KF700 from 2002. I have the 1200mm slider which doesn't even have an outrigger. Original owner paid $8,500 for the KF700 and an AF-22 dust collector so Imran is pretty spot on with his guess.

Is the arbor dado capable? Does it have a scoring blade? Does it come with shaper hood & fence? Is there a crosscut fence? Does the owner have a router spindle? These are all questions I had when I picked up mine.

-Ameer


Re: AD741 Delivery

 

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I would want a very stiff base for a J-P and I would mark the floor so I always moved it to the same spot when using it.? Dave


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Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 11:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [FOG] AD741 Delivery
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I vaguely recall going through that same exercise. ?Until I reinforced everything, all the steel just flexed. ?I notice that by lengthening, the side away from the bottle jack always lags the pump side. I think it is the connector bar having some twist in it due to the weight and extended length. It works so I haven’t done anything about it, but you might consider welding it so the far side is pre-lifted a bit to counteract that. I’d be interested in knowing if you try that and how much is a good amount (my guess is 1/4 to 1/2 in). Maybe solid bar rod would have helped too. I don’t know what my welding guy used.?


On Jul 30, 2021, at 8:28 AM, Greg Mix <gregnmix@...> wrote:

?Thanks, all helpful. I too am constrained on space and will need to move it every time I use it. I too have the Felder wheels and lifting bar setup on my FB510 bandsaw. The approach is similar but beefier for the AD741. They work well on the saw but it's cumbersome for frequent use not to mention that you've got to find a place to store the bar. The Sawstop base is very easy to use, a few pumps on the foot pedal and it's off the ground and rolling. One step on the release and it's down. My saw configuration is about 800lbs.

In trying to determine the source of the 1,000 lb rating I contacted SawStop for the ratings on the bottle jack and wheels. No surprise, they didn't have the information and even if they did, I imagine it could be a liability issue to provide it. But in looking at bottle jacks on line the minimum rating seems to be 2 tons so it's probably okay. If the wheels are the weak link they're probably replaceable with higher capacity versions so going this route seems like a safe bet. It's also half the price of the Felder kit. ?Now, if I only knew how to weld.... but that's solveable.

As for shipping, they claim the ship it will be on is scheduled to dock in late November so I'm optimistic, but in today's virus colored world I won't be surprised if it's delayed. Thank you for your help, I'll report back when it arrives.?


Re: Slider Switches

 

Michael, I really like the Harmony switch idea. It's very clean and avoids any motion related problem with the wires and the sliding table. I'm curious as to the button force issue that you mention. Since the transmitters have no batteries or power supply, I have to assume that they get their power from the physical actuation of the button and hence are hard to press. Do you think this is a problem with the end of the table installation where you are curling your hand around to press it instead of a straight punch like on a panel?


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I vaguely recall going through that same exercise. ?Until I reinforced everything, all the steel just flexed. ?I notice that by lengthening, the side away from the bottle jack always lags the pump side. I think it is the connector bar having some twist in it due to the weight and extended length. It works so I haven’t done anything about it, but you might consider welding it so the far side is pre-lifted a bit to counteract that. I’d be interested in knowing if you try that and how much is a good amount (my guess is 1/4 to 1/2 in). Maybe solid bar rod would have helped too. I don’t know what my welding guy used.?


On Jul 30, 2021, at 8:28 AM, Greg Mix <gregnmix@...> wrote:

?Thanks, all helpful. I too am constrained on space and will need to move it every time I use it. I too have the Felder wheels and lifting bar setup on my FB510 bandsaw. The approach is similar but beefier for the AD741. They work well on the saw but it's cumbersome for frequent use not to mention that you've got to find a place to store the bar. The Sawstop base is very easy to use, a few pumps on the foot pedal and it's off the ground and rolling. One step on the release and it's down. My saw configuration is about 800lbs.

In trying to determine the source of the 1,000 lb rating I contacted SawStop for the ratings on the bottle jack and wheels. No surprise, they didn't have the information and even if they did, I imagine it could be a liability issue to provide it. But in looking at bottle jacks on line the minimum rating seems to be 2 tons so it's probably okay. If the wheels are the weak link they're probably replaceable with higher capacity versions so going this route seems like a safe bet. It's also half the price of the Felder kit. ?Now, if I only knew how to weld.... but that's solveable.

As for shipping, they claim the ship it will be on is scheduled to dock in late November so I'm optimistic, but in today's virus colored world I won't be surprised if it's delayed. Thank you for your help, I'll report back when it arrives.?


Re: AD741 Delivery

 

Thanks, all helpful. I too am constrained on space and will need to move it every time I use it. I too have the Felder wheels and lifting bar setup on my FB510 bandsaw. The approach is similar but beefier for the AD741. They work well on the saw but it's cumbersome for frequent use not to mention that you've got to find a place to store the bar. The Sawstop base is very easy to use, a few pumps on the foot pedal and it's off the ground and rolling. One step on the release and it's down. My saw configuration is about 800lbs.

In trying to determine the source of the 1,000 lb rating I contacted SawStop for the ratings on the bottle jack and wheels. No surprise, they didn't have the information and even if they did, I imagine it could be a liability issue to provide it. But in looking at bottle jacks on line the minimum rating seems to be 2 tons so it's probably okay. If the wheels are the weak link they're probably replaceable with higher capacity versions so going this route seems like a safe bet. It's also half the price of the Felder kit. ?Now, if I only knew how to weld.... but that's solveable.

As for shipping, they claim the ship it will be on is scheduled to dock in late November so I'm optimistic, but in today's virus colored world I won't be surprised if it's delayed. Thank you for your help, I'll report back when it arrives.?


Re: Would you buy a combo Shaper/Saw?

 

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That would make a cool base for the Crazy Horse Dolley….

Brian Lamb
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On Jul 30, 2021, at 1:22 AM, JP Rice via <jprphotos@...> wrote:

Imran, the caster thing is the base of my new Vyper chair whichI got yesterday and have to finish putting it together.?

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Re: Would you buy a combo Shaper/Saw?

 

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I thought the same, too nice a chair. You mention FAT table. The heft of these tables was a surprise (for me) at AWFS. FAT 500 scissor members and the rest is massive. I cannot imagine that it is only rated for 500kg (1100#). My 1000# rated Vestil is literally a Tonka toy compared to it.

Talking about wife’s reaction; my wife calls my addiction “tool porn”. I am sure she did not coin the term ?

Imran

On Jul 30, 2021, at 10:26 AM, JP Rice via groups.io <jprphotos@...> wrote:

?I think the chair is too nice for that but my Felder FAT 300 lift table works great for supporting sheet goods. BTW I posted the wrong chair picture, here is the correct one with blue casters. My wife just shakes her head laughing at me and my color coordination ?
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Re: Fat300 and Material Handling

 

I emptied my panel handler cart which made it easy to make a review video for the Shop Carts Panel Handler.? This is the video and is not monetized so I have nothing to gain (or lose) one way or the other:??

Steve


Re: Would you buy a combo Shaper/Saw?

 

I think the chair is too nice for that but my Felder FAT 300 lift table works great for supporting sheet goods. BTW I posted the wrong chair picture, here is the correct one with blue casters. My wife just shakes her head laughing at me and my color coordination ?