¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

ctrl + shift + ? for shortcuts
© 2025 Groups.io
Date

Re: A3-31 setup and calibration

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Brian I was trained to set the height of the cutter head 8/10 of mm below the table edge side to side within max .06 mm then set the knives cutting circle .03 mm above table edge.
Mac,,

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 20, 2023, at 9:01 AM, Richard <rirving@...> wrote:

?.031¡± above the body of the cutterhead, the range called for in the setup guide is .026¡± - .038¡±, and getting it precise to a mark is difficult because of how everything adjusts - two bolts front side, two m6 studs on the hinge side.?

I am wondering if I did mess up level of the outfeed and didn¡¯t realize it when making my adjustments. Will check this am.?


Re: A3-31 setup and calibration

 

.031¡± above the body of the cutterhead, the range called for in the setup guide is .026¡± - .038¡±, and getting it precise to a mark is difficult because of how everything adjusts - two bolts front side, two m6 studs on the hinge side.?

I am wondering if I did mess up level of the outfeed and didn¡¯t realize it when making my adjustments. Will check this am.?


Re: A3-31 setup and calibration

 

Wouldn¡¯t it be too low in this case if I have to set the tables to near the lower end of their travel to achieve proper distance between cutterhead and tables??

Certainly possible, though I¡¯m hoping there¡¯s a geometry issue with the tables that I¡¯ve overlooked since those adjustments are much easier. :-)?


Re: A3-31 setup and calibration

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

.031" above the body of the cutterhead, or the height of the blades? How. Did you adjust the outfeed table? If you didn¡¯t keep it level as you adjusted it, then tipping the plane of the table could easily put you out of range on the adjustment of the infeed table.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On May 19, 2023, at 9:12 PM, Richard <rirving@...> wrote:

So I¡¯ve gotten the outfeed leveled and set .031¡± above the cutterhead. The problem when I do that is the infeed loses the majority of its travel and now has a height adjustment of only 0 - .09¡±. Beyond that the height adjustment bottoms out at the end of its travel. I¡¯m sure there¡¯s something I screwed up adjusting the outfeed but I haven¡¯t figured it out yet.?


Re: A3-31 setup and calibration

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

I¡¯m talking whole cutter head not table to head

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 20, 2023, at 8:12 AM, mac campshure <mac512002@...> wrote:

?Maybe the cutterhead assembly is too high???
Mac,,

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 19, 2023, at 11:12 PM, Richard <rirving@...> wrote:

?So I¡¯ve gotten the outfeed leveled and set .031¡± above the cutterhead. The problem when I do that is the infeed loses the majority of its travel and now has a height adjustment of only 0 - .09¡±. Beyond that the height adjustment bottoms out at the end of its travel. I¡¯m sure there¡¯s something I screwed up adjusting the outfeed but I haven¡¯t figured it out yet.?


Re: A3-31 setup and calibration

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Maybe the cutterhead assembly is too high???
Mac,,

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 19, 2023, at 11:12 PM, Richard <rirving@...> wrote:

?So I¡¯ve gotten the outfeed leveled and set .031¡± above the cutterhead. The problem when I do that is the infeed loses the majority of its travel and now has a height adjustment of only 0 - .09¡±. Beyond that the height adjustment bottoms out at the end of its travel. I¡¯m sure there¡¯s something I screwed up adjusting the outfeed but I haven¡¯t figured it out yet.?


Re: Electronic brake C3 31

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Hi Nathan,

I sent you a private msg.

Imran Malik

On May 20, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Nathan D'Elboux <nathan.delboux@...> wrote:

?Hi all, I used to own a 2012 model hammer c31 combo unit and I remember the electric motor of the table saw used to applying an electronic break buzzing sound to slow the blade to a complete stop, as my n4400 bandsaw currently has as well. ?I no longer own that 2012 model, my current model is a 2016 and everything else is the same but the table saw doesn¡¯t apply an electric brake when I turn it off. The helical head and router spindle does but the tablesaw slows down eventually there¡¯s no buzzing sound

do others find the same? Is it supposed to have one consistently across the range of products and I should be raising it as a fault with Felder directly or it¡¯s not common across all hammer motors?

I just thought it would have one given an older saw used to but this is not the case

thanks for any advice
Nathan?


Re: Electronic brake C3 31

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Nathan - My 2018 C3-31 also has the buzzing sound when the saw blade stops.
Chris?

Chris Rozycki?

On May 20, 2023, at 6:11 AM, Rich M. <rmarkiewicz@...> wrote:

?Hi Nathan - My 2018-build C3-31 has the buzzing sound on the table saw blade as well.????? -Rich M.


Re: Electronic brake C3 31

 

Hi Nathan - My 2018-build C3-31 has the buzzing sound on the table saw blade as well.????? -Rich M.


Electronic brake C3 31

 

Hi all, I used to own a 2012 model hammer c31 combo unit and I remember the electric motor of the table saw used to applying an electronic break buzzing sound to slow the blade to a complete stop, as my n4400 bandsaw currently has as well. ?I no longer own that 2012 model, my current model is a 2016 and everything else is the same but the table saw doesn¡¯t apply an electric brake when I turn it off. The helical head and router spindle does but the tablesaw slows down eventually there¡¯s no buzzing sound

do others find the same? Is it supposed to have one consistently across the range of products and I should be raising it as a fault with Felder directly or it¡¯s not common across all hammer motors?

I just thought it would have one given an older saw used to but this is not the case

thanks for any advice
Nathan?


Re: A3-31 setup and calibration

 

So I¡¯ve gotten the outfeed leveled and set .031¡± above the cutterhead. The problem when I do that is the infeed loses the majority of its travel and now has a height adjustment of only 0 - .09¡±. Beyond that the height adjustment bottoms out at the end of its travel. I¡¯m sure there¡¯s something I screwed up adjusting the outfeed but I haven¡¯t figured it out yet.?


Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm #forsale

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Btw, if successful in identifying and procuring said adjustable groover for circular saws, a Forrest dado stack will be available¡­. 8¡±

Mike

On May 19, 2023, at 7:56 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:

Primarily for cutting grooves (dados) in solid stock for furniture work. ?My spouse is looking for an anniversary present for me. ?The Forrest stack is ok, but the adjustability of the width of the groove is a pain in the ass. ?I have adjustable groovers for the shaper on CF741. ?I want to be able to set my dado up like David Best! ?Budget is less that 1.2k. ?I¡¯d hoped to buy the groover that was listed above but no luck for a deal¡­

Mike

On May 19, 2023, at 7:41 PM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:

Mike, Can you comment a bit on your budget for the groover and your intended ?application? ?That would help narrow the alternatives.

David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best


On May 19, 2023, at 6:37 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:

Thanks everyone. ?I have a Forrest dado stack; what I want is an adjustable groover for the saw. ?Any options other than Felder?

Mike





Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm #forsale

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Primarily for cutting grooves (dados) in solid stock for furniture work. ?My spouse is looking for an anniversary present for me. ?The Forrest stack is ok, but the adjustability of the width of the groove is a pain in the ass. ?I have adjustable groovers for the shaper on CF741. ?I want to be able to set my dado up like David Best! ?Budget is less that 1.2k. ?I¡¯d hoped to buy the groover that was listed above but no luck for a deal¡­

Mike

On May 19, 2023, at 7:41 PM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:

Mike, Can you comment a bit on your budget for the groover and your intended ?application? ?That would help narrow the alternatives.

David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best


On May 19, 2023, at 6:37 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:

Thanks everyone. ?I have a Forrest dado stack; what I want is an adjustable groover for the saw. ?Any options other than Felder?

Mike




Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm #forsale

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Mike, Can you comment a bit on your budget for the groover and your intended ?application? ?That would help narrow the alternatives.

David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best


On May 19, 2023, at 6:37 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:

Thanks everyone. ?I have a Forrest dado stack; what I want is an adjustable groover for the saw. ?Any options other than Felder?

Mike



Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm #forsale

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Thanks everyone. ?I have a Forrest dado stack; what I want is an adjustable groover for the saw. ?Any options other than Felder?

Mike

On May 19, 2023, at 5:04 PM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:

I have a CMT dado stack purchased from Scott&Sargent. After I bought it a felder dado set came up for sale, which I bought. Anyhow, I have it for sale on FB.



Imran Malik

On May 19, 2023, at 6:28 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:

?Bummer. ?The dado has been sold. ?Felder is claiming 6-8 weeks for delivery. ?Any other sources other than Felder?

On May 19, 2023, at 2:54 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:

Hi Steve:

Theoretically there¡¯s no problem mounting the dado on your shaper spindle. There are no downsides in terms of safety or cutting quality. Just run the shaper on a lower speed. In practice, it will depend on the capacity of your particular shaper. Does your shaper hood accept 228mm diameter cutter heads? And does your below table space allow a 228mm cutter head to lower ¡°enough¡±? It is not just the table opening diameter of your shaper, but also any other protrusions that might stop you lowering (or tilting) such a big cutter. Hope this is helpful.?

Warm regards,
Lucky

Dr David Luckensmeyer

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Steven B <sb@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2023 2:29:08 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm #forsale
?
Not to hijack this thread, but I pose a question for the group:

I'm still familiarizing myself with shaper cutters and operation...Would this dado set be compatible with a 30mm spindle shaper for grooving? And if so are there any downsides to using such large diameter tooling, versus something more standard such as 160mm diameter?

Thank you,
Steve



Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm #forsale

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

I second the ridge carbide set, very good quality cut with no tear out on cross-cuts in prefinished maple?

On May 19, 2023, at 7:40 PM, Andy <andy.raynor08@...> wrote:

?
I have a ridge carbide dado set it can be stamped for a Felder unit. Very nice flat bottom.?

On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 6:28 PM habacomike via <habacomike=[email protected]> wrote:
Bummer.? The dado has been sold.? Felder is claiming 6-8 weeks for delivery.? Any other sources other than Felder?

On May 19, 2023, at 2:54 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:

Hi Steve:

Theoretically there¡¯s no problem mounting the dado on your shaper spindle. There are no downsides in terms of safety or cutting quality. Just run the shaper on a lower speed. In practice, it will depend on the capacity of your particular shaper. Does your shaper hood accept 228mm diameter cutter heads? And does your below table space allow a 228mm cutter head to lower ¡°enough¡±? It is not just the table opening diameter of your shaper, but also any other protrusions that might stop you lowering (or tilting) such a big cutter. Hope this is helpful.?

Warm regards,
Lucky

Dr David Luckensmeyer

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Steven B <sb@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2023 2:29:08 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm #forsale
?
Not to hijack this thread, but I pose a question for the group:

I'm still familiarizing myself with shaper cutters and operation...Would this dado set be compatible with a 30mm spindle shaper for grooving? And if so are there any downsides to using such large diameter tooling, versus something more standard such as 160mm diameter?

Thank you,
Steve


Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm #forsale

 

I have a ridge carbide dado set it can be stamped for a Felder unit. Very nice flat bottom.?

On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 6:28 PM habacomike via <habacomike=[email protected]> wrote:
Bummer.? The dado has been sold.? Felder is claiming 6-8 weeks for delivery.? Any other sources other than Felder?

On May 19, 2023, at 2:54 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:

Hi Steve:

Theoretically there¡¯s no problem mounting the dado on your shaper spindle. There are no downsides in terms of safety or cutting quality. Just run the shaper on a lower speed. In practice, it will depend on the capacity of your particular shaper. Does your shaper hood accept 228mm diameter cutter heads? And does your below table space allow a 228mm cutter head to lower ¡°enough¡±? It is not just the table opening diameter of your shaper, but also any other protrusions that might stop you lowering (or tilting) such a big cutter. Hope this is helpful.?

Warm regards,
Lucky

Dr David Luckensmeyer

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Steven B <sb@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2023 2:29:08 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm #forsale
?
Not to hijack this thread, but I pose a question for the group:

I'm still familiarizing myself with shaper cutters and operation...Would this dado set be compatible with a 30mm spindle shaper for grooving? And if so are there any downsides to using such large diameter tooling, versus something more standard such as 160mm diameter?

Thank you,
Steve


Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm #forsale

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

I have a CMT dado stack purchased from Scott&Sargent. After I bought it a felder dado set came up for sale, which I bought. Anyhow, I have it for sale on FB.



Imran Malik

On May 19, 2023, at 6:28 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:

?Bummer. ?The dado has been sold. ?Felder is claiming 6-8 weeks for delivery. ?Any other sources other than Felder?

On May 19, 2023, at 2:54 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:

Hi Steve:

Theoretically there¡¯s no problem mounting the dado on your shaper spindle. There are no downsides in terms of safety or cutting quality. Just run the shaper on a lower speed. In practice, it will depend on the capacity of your particular shaper. Does your shaper hood accept 228mm diameter cutter heads? And does your below table space allow a 228mm cutter head to lower ¡°enough¡±? It is not just the table opening diameter of your shaper, but also any other protrusions that might stop you lowering (or tilting) such a big cutter. Hope this is helpful.?

Warm regards,
Lucky

Dr David Luckensmeyer

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Steven B <sb@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2023 2:29:08 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm #forsale
?
Not to hijack this thread, but I pose a question for the group:

I'm still familiarizing myself with shaper cutters and operation...Would this dado set be compatible with a 30mm spindle shaper for grooving? And if so are there any downsides to using such large diameter tooling, versus something more standard such as 160mm diameter?

Thank you,
Steve


Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm #forsale

 

I'll second the forrest dado as a good option, though I only run it on the saw arbor, not the shaper. There is quite a long wait for forrest stuff right now - up to 2 - 3 months according to their web site and both the 6 and 8 inch dado stacks are sold out on the other web sites I've sourced from.


Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm #forsale

 

I bought a Forrest Dado King for my saw. It is a conventional dado stack, but drilled for the Felder. It seems there was some lead time involved, but I do not remember how long it took.

It seems to work. You will see the grooves the nickers leave.
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941