Your work is beautiful. I love the line of the arm. It looks like the ladder-back style arm (Brian Boggs or Russ Filbeck)
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Re: Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?
Mark Kessler -?
My original interest in starting this thread was not so much accuracy but to more efficiently align the first cuts on stock to maximize yield but work around defects like knots, bows, and grain runoff. I have found many times I keep jostling back and forth with front and rear edges and checking my gage blocks at the ends when I'm really trying to find the straightline?through the materials, and I'm tired of feeling like I should be smarter than I am. Once the straightline is established, it's back to positive stops, fences. and parallel?guides to get the accuracy we paid for in these fancy saws. Sadly, I have discovered that while I have solved this issue/problem , I have yet to solve the problem of feeling like I should be more clever, smarter than I am, lol.
As for remarks about fuzzy lines, line widths, etc., I believe that this is a result of such variable specifications among products sold and inability to trust the specs on equipment listings for lasers or equipment containing lasers. So thanks to all those who have shared their real-world experiences, and for justifying?my curiosity in this solution that apparently many of us have shared.
Is anyone remember trying to make accurate cuts using a laser? Great for rough oversize cuts but dead nuts on the line?? On Dec 4, 2020, at 12:08 PM, istrickl2 via <ivan.strickland1=[email protected]> wrote:
? This really doesn't work at all. The lines lack focus and vary in width as well as not being visible enough. Would very interested to find a solution that did work though and is available in the UK.
Cheers,? Ivan? 
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Re: Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs?
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I use a Wixey on my bandsaw and it works really well. It's my second one. Not sure about a table saw, but it's certainly accurate enough for me and the bandsaw.
Bill Bélanger
Mark Kessler,
???????????????????? I had the same thoughts on the Wixy.? I had one that I mounted on a Biesemeyer fence. I would say it's not a professional product. It never really worked that well for me. But I'm curious if others have had a better experience.
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Re: Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs?
#whysoexpensive
My experience with Wixey is very good or very bad, depending on the unit.? I've gone to Accurate Tech for most machines now and my only complaint is the batterys go if not used.? That may be different now as I haven't bought any for several years.? Dave
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Mark Kessler,
???????????????????? I had the same thoughts on the Wixy.? I had one that I mounted on a Biesemeyer fence. I would say it's not a professional product. It never really worked that well for me. But I'm curious if others have had a better experience.
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Not “remember” but really...
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On Dec 4, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Mark Kessler via groups.io <mkessler10@...> wrote:
? Is anyone remember trying to make accurate cuts using a laser? Great for rough oversize cuts but dead nuts on the line?? On Dec 4, 2020, at 12:08 PM, istrickl2 via groups.io <ivan.strickland1@...> wrote:
? This really doesn't work at all. The lines lack focus and vary in width as well as not being visible enough. Would very interested to find a solution that did work though and is available in the UK.
Cheers,? Ivan? 
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Re: Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs?
#whysoexpensive
Did want to mention that the OP did do a nice clean installation though.
Other comment would be that I would want it on top of the fence body, a lot of times i am adjusting the rip from the other side of the slider
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On Dec 4, 2020, at 1:04 PM, tomruth@... wrote:
?Mark Kessler,
???????????????????? I had the same thoughts on the Wixy.? I had one that I mounted on a Biesemeyer fence. I would say it's not a professional product. It never really worked that well for me. But I'm curious if others have had a better experience.
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Is anyone remember trying to make accurate cuts using a laser? Great for rough oversize cuts but dead nuts on the line??
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On Dec 4, 2020, at 12:08 PM, istrickl2 via groups.io <ivan.strickland1@...> wrote:
? This really doesn't work at all. The lines lack focus and vary in width as well as not being visible enough. Would very interested to find a solution that did work though and is available in the UK.
Cheers,? Ivan? 
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Re: Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs?
#whysoexpensive
Mark Kessler,
???????????????????? I had the same thoughts on the Wixy.? I had one that I mounted on a Biesemeyer fence. I would say it's not a professional product. It never really worked that well for me. But I'm curious if others have had a better experience.
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Re: Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?
This really doesn't work at all. The lines lack focus and vary in width as well as not being visible enough. Would very interested to find a solution that did work though and is available in the UK.
Cheers,? Ivan?
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Re: Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs?
#whysoexpensive
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On Dec 4, 2020, at 11:16 AM, Mark Kornell <mkornell@...> wrote: ? The Wixey has a magnet on the side for attaching to the fence head. Easy to move out of the way when tilting the head. On Fri., Dec. 4, 2020, 06:06 imranindiana via , <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: Mark,
sometimes i ask the question just to have an answer documented here. i am not sure what my plan is. too many more compelling things ahead of adding DRO to the rip fence ?
Imran ?I don’t know how the wixy works but the accurate technology reader i had was “keyed” to the encoder rail so you would have to disconnect a cable from he head to do that, doable but for me a hassle - i mean we have these fancy saws is $350 going to brake the bank, of course that is me I am still working and not retired.... ? Mark, ? That is the reason I asked the question of how it is attached to the fence housing. If it is done with a magnet then one could separate for flipping the fence, which I also do often enough. Even if the OP did not use magnet, I wonder if it could work from registration point of view. ? Imran ? From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Mark Kessler
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 8:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs? #whysoexpensive ? Wixey is not a “mag” strip dro, it uses an encoder rail which means the dro head and/or reader and rail are “connected” which means if you want to flip the fence out of the way you can’t unless you disconnect it some how. I don’t flip the fence out of the way that often but enough that I wouldn’t want to do any extra work to do it.? Plus the wixy’s are questionable I know alot have had good luck but with the one that i had was iffy, but i was using an accurate technology one for many years with no issues which may have made me more biased to more robust solutions? ? Thanks for sharing. how is the wixey display attached to the fence housing? ?Newish Felder owner, first time posting...
I bought a K700P this summer and added a Wixey DRO to the rip fence. The Wixey head and mag strip don't fit the extrusion on the front edge of the table, so I made another "extrusion" out of hardwood scrap to fit into the existing extrusion and present a profile that works for the Wixey. The hardwood piece is simply double-side taped in place, no permanent modification.
My "extrusion" pushes the head out a little farther than necessary, could have been about 1/8" thinner and still work well.
As for cost, the Wixey is pretty inexpensive. I figured if this didn't work out, I could use it on something else or sell it without being out much. But so far, it works well, not that I use it all that much.
? ?
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thanks Cindy. i will check if my red one is 8mm. in that case i can just swap red with green. i will be using it in few days after couple of yrs. will see if it is adequate.
imran?
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On Dec 4, 2020, at 11:08 AM, Cindy Mathieu <cindymathieu@...> wrote: ? Imran's questions: (My answers are in Times New Roman)
did you buy this model? YES
how wide is the line with your setup?
1/8" or so; it lines up exactly with the blade
are you able to easily see it in well lit conditions?
YES
did it come with power supply?
NO, A 9V battery would work. (I have a power supply collection and one of them was 10V. I wired a barrel DC connection to the end of the laser which matched the connector on the power supply. I have a switch-controlled receptacle on the ceiling over the saw, so no wires are hanging down. The laser comes on with the overhead light.)
does not show any mounting hardware. did it come with any or you made your own?
They sell some options, but I attached some extrusion to the ceiling and used fittings to hold the 8mm, 2" long laser...
Cindy Mathieu
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I'd rather cut to a scribed line? A laser has always seemed a
little fuzzy? to me.
On 12/4/20 11:07 AM, Cindy Mathieu
wrote:
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Imran's questions: (My answers are in Times New Roman)
did you buy this model? YES
how wide is the line with your
setup?
1/8" or so; it
lines up exactly with the blade
are you able to easily see it in
well lit conditions?
YES
did it come with power supply?
NO, A 9V battery
would work. (I have a power supply collection and one of
them was 10V. I wired a barrel DC connection to the end of
the laser which matched the connector on the power supply.
I have a switch-controlled receptacle on the ceiling over
the saw, so no wires are hanging down. The laser comes on
with the overhead light.)
does not show any mounting
hardware. did it come with any or you made your own?
They sell some
options, but I attached some extrusion to the ceiling and
used fittings to hold the 8mm, 2" long laser...
Cindy Mathieu
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Re: Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs?
#whysoexpensive
The Wixey has a magnet on the side for attaching to the fence head. Easy to move out of the way when tilting the head.
On Fri., Dec. 4, 2020, 06:06 imranindiana via , <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: Mark,
sometimes i ask the question just to have an answer documented here. i am not sure what my plan is. too many more compelling things ahead of adding DRO to the rip fence ?
Imran ?I don’t know how the wixy works but the accurate technology reader i had was “keyed” to the encoder rail so you would have to disconnect a cable from he head to do that, doable but for me a hassle - i mean we have these fancy saws is $350 going to brake the bank, of course that is me I am still working and not retired.... ? Mark, ? That is the reason I asked the question of how it is attached to the fence housing. If it is done with a magnet then one could separate for flipping the fence, which I also do often enough. Even if the OP did not use magnet, I wonder if it could work from registration point of view. ? Imran ? From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Mark Kessler
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 8:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs? #whysoexpensive ? Wixey is not a “mag” strip dro, it uses an encoder rail which means the dro head and/or reader and rail are “connected” which means if you want to flip the fence out of the way you can’t unless you disconnect it some how. I don’t flip the fence out of the way that often but enough that I wouldn’t want to do any extra work to do it.? Plus the wixy’s are questionable I know alot have had good luck but with the one that i had was iffy, but i was using an accurate technology one for many years with no issues which may have made me more biased to more robust solutions? ? Thanks for sharing. how is the wixey display attached to the fence housing? ?Newish Felder owner, first time posting...
I bought a K700P this summer and added a Wixey DRO to the rip fence. The Wixey head and mag strip don't fit the extrusion on the front edge of the table, so I made another "extrusion" out of hardwood scrap to fit into the existing extrusion and present a profile that works for the Wixey. The hardwood piece is simply double-side taped in place, no permanent modification.
My "extrusion" pushes the head out a little farther than necessary, could have been about 1/8" thinner and still work well.
As for cost, the Wixey is pretty inexpensive. I figured if this didn't work out, I could use it on something else or sell it without being out much. But so far, it works well, not that I use it all that much.
? ?
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Imran's questions: (My answers are in Times New Roman)
did you buy this model? YES
how wide is the line with your setup?
1/8" or so; it lines up exactly with the blade
are you able to easily see it in well lit conditions?
YES
did it come with power supply?
NO, A 9V battery would work. (I have a power supply collection and one of them was 10V. I wired a barrel DC connection to the end of the laser which matched the connector on the power supply. I have a switch-controlled receptacle on the ceiling over the saw, so no wires are hanging down. The laser comes on with the overhead light.)
does not show any mounting hardware. did it come with any or you made your own?
They sell some options, but I attached some extrusion to the ceiling and used fittings to hold the 8mm, 2" long laser...
Cindy Mathieu
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Here's a picture of the arms and you can see how it "curves and is not flat..
On Friday, December 4, 2020, 06:13:51 AM PST, Randy Child via groups.io <strongman_one@...> wrote:
Thank you kindly..
Jason..I did quite a few things differently on the 2nd chair.? the first chair with the thinner arms, leans back more.? I purposely moved the upper legs forward more so the chair was more upright.? I extended both the back leg and upper leg by another inch.?? I made the seat just a tad wider I used ebony for all the accents (that stuff is EXPENSIVE!!) As for the arms, I actually curved them more than usual.. it's just really hard to see in the pictures with all the noise in the background There are hardlines everywhere the same as a Maloof chair.
I'll add more pictures tonight when I get back with the chairs in the same angle..
Thanks.. 
On Friday, December 4, 2020, 05:25:29 AM PST, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:
Hi Randy, Really nice work! Can you post the two of them together from the same angle? Besides the difference of the accent woods, the main change I see is in the arms. I personally find them to be a little flat looking in comparison on the?new version. Could just be the camera angle. Are the back splats sawn from solid, not bent lamination? I have never built a Maloof style anything. The hand shaping seems so daunting! I should do it someday.
Thanks for sharing! Jason Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Thank you kindly..
Jason..I did quite a few things differently on the 2nd chair.? the first chair with the thinner arms, leans back more.? I purposely moved the upper legs forward more so the chair was more upright.? I extended both the back leg and upper leg by another inch.?? I made the seat just a tad wider I used ebony for all the accents (that stuff is EXPENSIVE!!) As for the arms, I actually curved them more than usual.. it's just really hard to see in the pictures with all the noise in the background There are hardlines everywhere the same as a Maloof chair.
I'll add more pictures tonight when I get back with the chairs in the same angle..
Thanks..
On Friday, December 4, 2020, 05:25:29 AM PST, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:
Hi Randy, Really nice work! Can you post the two of them together from the same angle? Besides the difference of the accent woods, the main change I see is in the arms. I personally find them to be a little flat looking in comparison on the?new version. Could just be the camera angle. Are the back splats sawn from solid, not bent lamination? I have never built a Maloof style anything. The hand shaping seems so daunting! I should do it someday.
Thanks for sharing! Jason Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs?
#whysoexpensive
Mark,
sometimes i ask the question just to have an answer documented here. i am not sure what my plan is. too many more compelling things ahead of adding DRO to the rip fence ?
Imran
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On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote: ? I don’t know how the wixy works but the accurate technology reader i had was “keyed” to the encoder rail so you would have to disconnect a cable from he head to do that, doable but for me a hassle - i mean we have these fancy saws is $350 going to brake the bank, of course that is me I am still working and not retired.... On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:26 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Mark, ? That is the reason I asked the question of how it is attached to the fence housing. If it is done with a magnet then one could separate for flipping the fence, which I also do often enough. Even if the OP did not use magnet, I wonder if it could work from registration point of view. ? Imran ? From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Mark Kessler
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 8:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs? #whysoexpensive ? Wixey is not a “mag” strip dro, it uses an encoder rail which means the dro head and/or reader and rail are “connected” which means if you want to flip the fence out of the way you can’t unless you disconnect it some how. I don’t flip the fence out of the way that often but enough that I wouldn’t want to do any extra work to do it.? Plus the wixy’s are questionable I know alot have had good luck but with the one that i had was iffy, but i was using an accurate technology one for many years with no issues which may have made me more biased to more robust solutions?
On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:00 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Thanks for sharing. how is the wixey display attached to the fence housing? ?Newish Felder owner, first time posting...
I bought a K700P this summer and added a Wixey DRO to the rip fence. The Wixey head and mag strip don't fit the extrusion on the front edge of the table, so I made another "extrusion" out of hardwood scrap to fit into the existing extrusion and present a profile that works for the Wixey. The hardwood piece is simply double-side taped in place, no permanent modification.
My "extrusion" pushes the head out a little farther than necessary, could have been about 1/8" thinner and still work well.
As for cost, the Wixey is pretty inexpensive. I figured if this didn't work out, I could use it on something else or sell it without being out much. But so far, it works well, not that I use it all that much.
? ?
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Re: Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs?
#whysoexpensive
I don’t know how the wixy works but the accurate technology reader i had was “keyed” to the encoder rail so you would have to disconnect a cable from he head to do that, doable but for me a hassle - i mean we have these fancy saws is $350 going to brake the bank, of course that is me I am still working and not retired....
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On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:26 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Mark, ? That is the reason I asked the question of how it is attached to the fence housing. If it is done with a magnet then one could separate for flipping the fence, which I also do often enough. Even if the OP did not use magnet, I wonder if it could work from registration point of view. ? Imran ? From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Mark Kessler
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 8:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs? #whysoexpensive ? Wixey is not a “mag” strip dro, it uses an encoder rail which means the dro head and/or reader and rail are “connected” which means if you want to flip the fence out of the way you can’t unless you disconnect it some how. I don’t flip the fence out of the way that often but enough that I wouldn’t want to do any extra work to do it.? Plus the wixy’s are questionable I know alot have had good luck but with the one that i had was iffy, but i was using an accurate technology one for many years with no issues which may have made me more biased to more robust solutions?
On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:00 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Thanks for sharing. how is the wixey display attached to the fence housing? ?Newish Felder owner, first time posting...
I bought a K700P this summer and added a Wixey DRO to the rip fence. The Wixey head and mag strip don't fit the extrusion on the front edge of the table, so I made another "extrusion" out of hardwood scrap to fit into the existing extrusion and present a profile that works for the Wixey. The hardwood piece is simply double-side taped in place, no permanent modification.
My "extrusion" pushes the head out a little farther than necessary, could have been about 1/8" thinner and still work well.
As for cost, the Wixey is pretty inexpensive. I figured if this didn't work out, I could use it on something else or sell it without being out much. But so far, it works well, not that I use it all that much.
? ?
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#whysoexpensive
Mark, ? That is the reason I asked the question of how it is attached to the fence housing. If it is done with a magnet then one could separate for flipping the fence, which I also do often enough. Even if the OP did not use magnet, I wonder if it could work from registration point of view. ? Imran ?
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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Mark Kessler Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 8:07 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FOG] Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs? #whysoexpensive ? Wixey is not a “mag” strip dro, it uses an encoder rail which means the dro head and/or reader and rail are “connected” which means if you want to flip the fence out of the way you can’t unless you disconnect it some how. I don’t flip the fence out of the way that often but enough that I wouldn’t want to do any extra work to do it.? Plus the wixy’s are questionable I know alot have had good luck but with the one that i had was iffy, but i was using an accurate technology one for many years with no issues which may have made me more biased to more robust solutions?
On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:00 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Thanks for sharing. how is the wixey display attached to the fence housing? ?Newish Felder owner, first time posting...
I bought a K700P this summer and added a Wixey DRO to the rip fence. The Wixey head and mag strip don't fit the extrusion on the front edge of the table, so I made another "extrusion" out of hardwood scrap to fit into the existing extrusion and present a profile that works for the Wixey. The hardwood piece is simply double-side taped in place, no permanent modification.
My "extrusion" pushes the head out a little farther than necessary, could have been about 1/8" thinner and still work well.
As for cost, the Wixey is pretty inexpensive. I figured if this didn't work out, I could use it on something else or sell it without being out much. But so far, it works well, not that I use it all that much.
? ?
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Hi Randy, Really nice work! Can you post the two of them together from the same angle? Besides the difference of the accent woods, the main change I see is in the arms. I personally find them to be a little flat looking in comparison on the?new version. Could just be the camera angle. Are the back splats sawn from solid, not bent lamination? I have never built a Maloof style anything. The hand shaping seems so daunting! I should do it someday.
Thanks for sharing! Jason Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Bill Belanger
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