On Jun 28, 2023, at 12:35 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
?
Imran,
Thank you. ?
Bill does offer a 120mm to 4¡± hose. See link.
But it¡¯s not a right angle. ?
Now if he offered a 120mm O.D. to machine connection, then it curved 90 degrees to an end that excepts a 4¡± hose, well then FOR ME that would be the ¡°Holy Grail¡± of adapters! ?
Wade
On Jun 28, 2023, at 12:14 PM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?
Wade,
I use 5¡± spiral with Felder adapter and I assume Bill Belanger adapter does the same. Which ever way you go, just confirm that the hose end matches your requirement.
Imran Malik
On Jun 28, 2023, at 3:04 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
?
Imran,
Great point about clearing the hose out of the path of outfeed. ?I¡¯d like to go with the right angle adapter setup, but I¡¯m also wanting to keep my hose size to the 4¡±+ that it is. ?
??
Wade
On Jun 28, 2023, at 11:07 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?¡°?Some have mentioned they use Felder¡¯s right angle adapter, but I don¡¯t see the need on my situation to use a right angle adapter.¡±
Above may be true for you but just want to be sure that you have gone thru the mechanics. The right angle adapter works great for me both in jointer and planer modes. It routes the hose just as I would like. Even though mine is dual 51 concept is same. I use 2 separate hoses (thanks to David Best) for jointer and planer and both are standard 5¡± spiral hoses.
The pics illustrate the benefit to me for the right angle connector.
?Jointer:
<image0.jpeg>
Planer: This is important because you want the hose to go up, otherwise it will be in the path of outfeed.
<image1.jpeg>
Imran Malik
On Jun 28, 2023, at 11:48 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
?
Hi Bob Wise,
I¡¯m just connecting flex ducting that has the reinforced spiral wire that coils through it. Wanting to make a direct attachment. ?
Some have mentioned they use Felder¡¯s right angle adapter, but I don¡¯t see the need on my situation to use a right angle adapter. ?Just a straight tapered adapter would suffice. ?
Thx,
Wade
On Jun 28, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Bob Wise <bob@...> wrote:
?
What material are you using?
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 8:35?AM Chris Reyerson <reyerson@...> wrote:
I use my 3D printer to grow a adapter between the machine port and the hose I use.? A 3D printer has all kinds of uses in a wood shop for things like this.
Now if he offered a 120mm O.D. to machine connection, then it curved 90 degrees to an end that excepts a 4¡± hose, well then FOR ME that would be the ¡°Holy Grail¡± of adapters! ?
On Jun 28, 2023, at 12:14 PM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?
Wade,
I use 5¡± spiral with Felder adapter and I assume Bill Belanger adapter does the same. Which ever way you go, just confirm that the hose end matches your requirement.
Imran Malik
On Jun 28, 2023, at 3:04 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
?
Imran,
Great point about clearing the hose out of the path of outfeed. ?I¡¯d like to go with the right angle adapter setup, but I¡¯m also wanting to keep my hose size to the 4¡±+ that it is. ?
??
Wade
On Jun 28, 2023, at 11:07 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?¡°?Some have mentioned they use Felder¡¯s right angle adapter, but I don¡¯t see the need on my situation to use a right angle adapter.¡±
Above may be true for you but just want to be sure that you have gone thru the mechanics. The right angle adapter works great for me both in jointer and planer modes. It routes the hose just as I would like. Even though mine is dual 51 concept is same. I use 2 separate hoses (thanks to David Best) for jointer and planer and both are standard 5¡± spiral hoses.
The pics illustrate the benefit to me for the right angle connector.
?Jointer:
<image0.jpeg>
Planer: This is important because you want the hose to go up, otherwise it will be in the path of outfeed.
<image1.jpeg>
Imran Malik
On Jun 28, 2023, at 11:48 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
?
Hi Bob Wise,
I¡¯m just connecting flex ducting that has the reinforced spiral wire that coils through it. Wanting to make a direct attachment. ?
Some have mentioned they use Felder¡¯s right angle adapter, but I don¡¯t see the need on my situation to use a right angle adapter. ?Just a straight tapered adapter would suffice. ?
Thx,
Wade
On Jun 28, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Bob Wise <bob@...> wrote:
?
What material are you using?
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 8:35?AM Chris Reyerson <reyerson@...> wrote:
I use my 3D printer to grow a adapter between the machine port and the hose I use.? A 3D printer has all kinds of uses in a wood shop for things like this.
I use 5¡± spiral with Felder adapter and I assume Bill Belanger adapter does the same. Which ever way you go, just confirm that the hose end matches your requirement.
On Jun 28, 2023, at 3:04 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
?
Imran,
Great point about clearing the hose out of the path of outfeed. ?I¡¯d like to go with the right angle adapter setup, but I¡¯m also wanting to keep my hose size to the 4¡±+ that it is. ?
??
Wade
On Jun 28, 2023, at 11:07 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?¡°?Some have mentioned they use Felder¡¯s right angle adapter, but I don¡¯t see the need on my situation to use a right angle adapter.¡±
Above may be true for you but just want to be sure that you have gone thru the mechanics. The right angle adapter works great for me both in jointer and planer modes. It routes the hose just as I would like. Even though mine is dual 51 concept is same. I use 2 separate hoses (thanks to David Best) for jointer and planer and both are standard 5¡± spiral hoses.
The pics illustrate the benefit to me for the right angle connector.
?Jointer:
<image0.jpeg>
Planer: This is important because you want the hose to go up, otherwise it will be in the path of outfeed.
<image1.jpeg>
Imran Malik
On Jun 28, 2023, at 11:48 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
?
Hi Bob Wise,
I¡¯m just connecting flex ducting that has the reinforced spiral wire that coils through it. Wanting to make a direct attachment. ?
Some have mentioned they use Felder¡¯s right angle adapter, but I don¡¯t see the need on my situation to use a right angle adapter. ?Just a straight tapered adapter would suffice. ?
Thx,
Wade
On Jun 28, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Bob Wise <bob@...> wrote:
?
What material are you using?
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 8:35?AM Chris Reyerson <reyerson@...> wrote:
I use my 3D printer to grow a adapter between the machine port and the hose I use.? A 3D printer has all kinds of uses in a wood shop for things like this.
Great point about clearing the hose out of the path of outfeed. ?I¡¯d like to go with the right angle adapter setup, but I¡¯m also wanting to keep my hose size to the 4¡±+ that it is. ?
On Jun 28, 2023, at 11:07 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?¡°?Some have mentioned they use Felder¡¯s right angle adapter, but I don¡¯t see the need on my situation to use a right angle adapter.¡±
Above may be true for you but just want to be sure that you have gone thru the mechanics. The right angle adapter works great for me both in jointer and planer modes. It routes the hose just as I would like. Even though mine is dual 51 concept is same. I use 2 separate hoses (thanks to David Best) for jointer and planer and both are standard 5¡± spiral hoses.
The pics illustrate the benefit to me for the right angle connector.
?Jointer:
<image0.jpeg>
Planer: This is important because you want the hose to go up, otherwise it will be in the path of outfeed.
<image1.jpeg>
Imran Malik
On Jun 28, 2023, at 11:48 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
?
Hi Bob Wise,
I¡¯m just connecting flex ducting that has the reinforced spiral wire that coils through it. Wanting to make a direct attachment. ?
Some have mentioned they use Felder¡¯s right angle adapter, but I don¡¯t see the need on my situation to use a right angle adapter. ?Just a straight tapered adapter would suffice. ?
Thx,
Wade
On Jun 28, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Bob Wise <bob@...> wrote:
?
What material are you using?
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 8:35?AM Chris Reyerson <reyerson@...> wrote:
I use my 3D printer to grow a adapter between the machine port and the hose I use.? A 3D printer has all kinds of uses in a wood shop for things like this.
Hi Ray, it¡¯s best to talk to someone at Felder as some of the options group into a discount that doesn¡¯t exist if you custom select every item individually.
Regards, Rod
P,S. Also the sales rep will know if any promotions or discounts are available at a certain time.
On Jun 28, 2023, at 2:06 PM, Imran Malik <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?¡°?Some have mentioned they use Felder¡¯s right angle adapter, but I don¡¯t see the need on my situation to use a right angle adapter.¡±
Above may be true for you but just want to be sure that you have gone thru the mechanics. The right angle adapter works great for me both in jointer and planer modes. It routes the hose just as I would like. Even though mine is dual 51 concept is same. I use 2 separate hoses (thanks to David Best) for jointer and planer and both are standard 5¡± spiral hoses.
The pics illustrate the benefit to me for the right angle connector.
?Jointer:
<image0.jpeg>
Planer: This is important because you want the hose to go up, otherwise it will be in the path of outfeed.
<image1.jpeg>
Imran Malik
On Jun 28, 2023, at 11:48 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
?
Hi Bob Wise,
I¡¯m just connecting flex ducting that has the reinforced spiral wire that coils through it. Wanting to make a direct attachment. ?
Some have mentioned they use Felder¡¯s right angle adapter, but I don¡¯t see the need on my situation to use a right angle adapter. ?Just a straight tapered adapter would suffice. ?
Thx,
Wade
On Jun 28, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Bob Wise <bob@...> wrote:
?
What material are you using?
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 8:35?AM Chris Reyerson <reyerson@...> wrote:
I use my 3D printer to grow a adapter between the machine port and the hose I use.? A 3D printer has all kinds of uses in a wood shop for things like this.
Agreed on the quality comment, but these guys have been around a long time and are very reputable. They sell a lot to machine shops that need carbide blades for big industrial horizontal bandsaws. They also do contract cutting for shops as well.
On Jun 28, 2023, at 11:10 AM, Mike D. via groups.io <mjcdorsam@...> wrote:
Brian:
Thank you.
I identified one in my neck of the woods¡ Baltimore, had Starrett not stepped-up. My concern was that there appear to be many garage-shops for?which I have no sense of quality. Though, the quality could be quite high.
Mike D.
On Wednesday, June 28, 2023, 12:15, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Any competent saw blade shop should be able to cut and re-weld that blade. Find one local to you, this is who I use here in Phoenix:
Brian Lamb blamb11@... www.lambtoolworks.com
On Jun 28, 2023, at 3:37 AM, Mike D. via groups.io <mjcdorsam@...> wrote:
Recently, I purchased a carbide-tipped bandsaw blade from Starrett, but?mis-read the description - leading to a 13¡¯ 4¡± blade for my 13¡¯ N4400. A rather expensive senior-moment without reading glasses.
Starrett won¡¯t exchange the blade, and the current sense is they no longer provide repair services - Customer Service is looking into this.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks.
Mike D.
--? Mike D. Annapolis, MD AD951; K700S; N4400
--? Mike D. Annapolis, MD AD951; K700S; N4400<IMG_4118-300x300.png>
Thanks Mac.? I had never considered setting up a machine that
way, but I love the idea.? I'm going to look into how I might do
that to my drill presses.
On 6/28/2023 11:06 AM, Airtight: Clamps
by Air Compression wrote:
Garrison
Assembly drill ?I told my friend what I wanted and I did the hard
stuff he set up to do.?
Micro switch and relay I think.
Very handy my other machines it¡¯s built into the controls.
Very glad I know a young smart energetic
Fellow to implement my request, controls is not my strong
suit ?but they are his.
On Jun 27, 2023, at 12:31 PM, Michael
Garrison Stuber <mtgstuber@...> wrote:
?
Hi Mac,
??? Can you provide some details on having the drill
start automatically when the handle is activated?? What
did you use?? A microswitch and a relay?? An aftermarket
product?
On 6/25/2023 10:33 AM, mac
campshure via groups.io wrote:
Also I have my drills most set up so when handle is
activated the drill starts and whe n returned it stops and
also have foot peddle with reverse although most have that
set as. Auto feature with activation by stop.
On Jun 25, 2023, at 12:29 PM,
mac campshure <mac512002@...>
wrote:
?
I have quite a few serious drill press, B&S
turrets , single spindle Alzmetal, Burgmaster , and
Azuma Radial 10¡± column .?
They all have vari pulley drive (reeves)or gear
drive with 2 speed motor .?
I would be inclined to use a two speed motor and
use a couple belt changes you only need 4 speeds is
way more than enough.
Two belt changes and high low speed on the motor
mor positive drive system that¡¯s what the big boys
do talking machines of course and a hell of a lot
cheaper and problem free.
On Jun 25, 2023, at 11:54
AM, joelgelman via groups.io <joelgelman@...>
wrote:
?My prior drill press, a Powermatic
PM2800B with a single phase 1 HP motor with
mechanical variable speed with digital readout
was nice. ?It was not too powerful, which was
good, but my larger Forstner drill bits did not
stop rotating when cutting wood. ?However, I
wanted a radial drill press where the table
stayed fixed and I could drill holes farther
from the edge of the wood, and I could adjust
the distance chuck to wood without the table
shifting side to side like on a standard drill
press.
I went with a 3 phase vintage Delta
Turner-Walker style radial drill press that came
with a smaller motor - a 0.5HP 1725 RPM motor..
?A VFD was added. ?This was discussed in a prior
thread. ?
The VFD makes noise at all times unless the
power supply is turned off, and the larger
Forstner bits stop turning in wood, especially
at lower speed.
Plan is to change to a ENC single phase 220V VFD
along with a Marathon 1 HP 1750PRM 3 phase
motor. ?A friend has a similar radial drill
press but no VFD and does not have this issue.
He would have to change belts to adjust speed as
the tradeoff. ?I am hoping the upgrade will give
me the needed performance without the need for
belt changes.
When the change is made, I will provide feedback
on the performance.?
I identified one in my neck of the woods¡ Baltimore, had Starrett not stepped-up. My concern was that there appear to be many garage-shops for?which I have no sense of quality. Though, the quality could be quite high.
On Wednesday, June 28, 2023, 12:15, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Any competent saw blade shop should be able to cut and re-weld that blade. Find one local to you, this is who I use here in Phoenix:
Brian Lamb blamb11@... www.lambtoolworks.com
On Jun 28, 2023, at 3:37 AM, Mike D. via groups.io <mjcdorsam@...> wrote:
Recently, I purchased a carbide-tipped bandsaw blade from Starrett, but?mis-read the description - leading to a 13¡¯ 4¡± blade for my 13¡¯ N4400. A rather expensive senior-moment without reading glasses.
Starrett won¡¯t exchange the blade, and the current sense is they no longer provide repair services - Customer Service is looking into this.
On Jun 27, 2023, at 12:31 PM, Michael Garrison Stuber <mtgstuber@...> wrote:
?
Hi Mac,
??? Can you provide some details on having the drill start
automatically when the handle is activated?? What did you use?? A
microswitch and a relay?? An aftermarket product?
On 6/25/2023 10:33 AM, mac campshure
via groups.io wrote:
Also I have my drills most set up so when handle is activated the
drill starts and whe n returned it stops and also have foot peddle
with reverse although most have that set as. Auto feature with
activation by stop.
On Jun 25, 2023, at 12:29 PM, mac
campshure <mac512002@...> wrote:
?
I have quite a few serious drill press, B&S turrets ,
single spindle Alzmetal, Burgmaster , and Azuma Radial 10¡±
column .?
They all have vari pulley drive (reeves)or gear drive
with 2 speed motor .?
I would be inclined to use a two speed motor and use a
couple belt changes you only need 4 speeds is way more than
enough.
Two belt changes and high low speed on the motor mor
positive drive system that¡¯s what the big boys do talking
machines of course and a hell of a lot cheaper and problem
free.
On Jun 25, 2023, at 11:54 AM,
joelgelman via groups.io
<joelgelman@...> wrote:
?My prior drill press, a Powermatic PM2800B
with a single phase 1 HP motor with mechanical variable
speed with digital readout was nice. ?It was not too
powerful, which was good, but my larger Forstner drill
bits did not stop rotating when cutting wood. ?However,
I wanted a radial drill press where the table stayed
fixed and I could drill holes farther from the edge of
the wood, and I could adjust the distance chuck to wood
without the table shifting side to side like on a
standard drill press.
I went with a 3 phase vintage Delta Turner-Walker style
radial drill press that came with a smaller motor - a
0.5HP 1725 RPM motor.. ?A VFD was added. ?This was
discussed in a prior thread. ?
The VFD makes noise at all times unless the power supply
is turned off, and the larger Forstner bits stop turning
in wood, especially at lower speed.
Plan is to change to a ENC single phase 220V VFD along
with a Marathon 1 HP 1750PRM 3 phase motor. ?A friend
has a similar radial drill press but no VFD and does not
have this issue. He would have to change belts to adjust
speed as the tradeoff. ?I am hoping the upgrade will
give me the needed performance without the need for belt
changes.
When the change is made, I will provide feedback on the
performance.?
¡°?Some have mentioned they use Felder¡¯s right angle adapter, but I don¡¯t see the need on my situation to use a right angle adapter.¡±
Above may be true for you but just want to be sure that you have gone thru the mechanics. The right angle adapter works great for me both in jointer and planer modes. It routes the hose just as I would like. Even though mine is dual 51 concept is same. I use 2 separate hoses (thanks to David Best) for jointer and planer and both are standard 5¡± spiral hoses.
The pics illustrate the benefit to me for the right angle connector.
?Jointer:
Planer: This is important because you want the hose to go up, otherwise it will be in the path of outfeed.
On Jun 28, 2023, at 11:48 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
?
Hi Bob Wise,
I¡¯m just connecting flex ducting that has the reinforced spiral wire that coils through it. Wanting to make a direct attachment. ?
Some have mentioned they use Felder¡¯s right angle adapter, but I don¡¯t see the need on my situation to use a right angle adapter. ?Just a straight tapered adapter would suffice. ?
Thx,
Wade
On Jun 28, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Bob Wise <bob@...> wrote:
?
What material are you using?
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 8:35?AM Chris Reyerson <reyerson@...> wrote:
I use my 3D printer to grow a adapter between the machine port and the hose I use.? A 3D printer has all kinds of uses in a wood shop for things like this.
Yes, it should have had to be approved by a moderator. All new posters have to be moderated for the first few posts. I can only assume it is a glitch in the Groups software. First time it has happened, I deleted them as a member and will contact Groups if it happens again.
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 9:02?AM Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
Hi Bill Belanger,
So the larger end of your 120mm adapter will fit over the plastic housing on the machine, but do you know if it¡¯s a snug fit?? Does the 120mm end have any taper to it?? I¡¯m wanting that connection to be just about semi permanent. Only because of the flipping action of the hose back and fourth to change operations.? Maybe I can use a pop-rivet gun to secure it, unless it¡¯s soft enough to use a hose clamp to really hold it in there well. ?
Thx,
Wade
On Jun 28, 2023, at 8:25 AM, Bill Belanger <bllblngr@...> wrote: