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Need urgent opinions on '91 Eurovan
Just looked at a Westfalia this evening. My wife and I were
originally planning on spending around CAD$8000 (USD$5000) on a Vanagon and then doing a motor swap but came across a '92 Eurovan Westy for CAD$19,000 (USD$11,875) tonight. It was in immaculate condition and has 185,000km (115,000 mi) on it. Every looked good except the motor (Audi 2.5L) made a kind of a ticking noise. It wasn't exactly a tick sound but similar...maybe a small exhaust header leak...or maybe it was normal, I'm not sure. When it first started up, the motor sounded a bit noisy (remotely similar to a diesel) but smoothed out with 1 or 2 seconds. Now, I've heard that '93 EVs had a piston slap problem and I am wondering if that's what I heard on this '92. Opinions? If it is a piston slap problem, would VW provide a cheap replacement motor if I'm the 2nd or 3rd owner? Ok, stop laughing, it was worth a shot. Is the piston slap problem serious or just an annoyance? Some Jeep 4.0L motors had the same problem but it wasn't supposed to adversely affect the motor's lifespan (although I've been skeptical). Anything else I need to watch out for? I might have another look at it tomorrow in the daylight. Oh, I do all the work on my wife's Subaru and my Jeep YJ. They're both really easy to work on. The EV's engine compartment looked very crowded. Anyone have opinions on that? Is it a real bear to work with? When does the timing belt need to be changed and how ugly is the job? What about the water pump? One more question: how many miles or km can I expect to get from the 2.5L motor? Has anyone swapped in a VR6? How difficult was the job? Thanks in advance for taking the time to answer my newbie questions. ...lars |
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Re: Overheating - HELP !!
IronWood Designs
Are both fans running? If not, see previous posts. Also check to see that
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the radiator louvers are opening. Stevie-z 93 GL w/133K -----Original Message-----
From: ieworld@... [mailto:ieworld@...] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:04 AM To: ev_update@... Subject: [ev_update] Overheating - HELP !! Hi All: I just notice lately that the temp GAUGE has start touching 230 degrees. I like to solicit opinions to as what might be wrong in this kind of scenario. My car is a 93 EV GL. Any inputs is highly appreciated. Thank you! JC Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: tears and tires
plthe
While you're waiting to hear back about this, I suspect you'll do OK using the Goodyear, it being the same size/load rating/general specs as the Agilis. If you want two similar tires on the same axle get a pair of Nokian NRWs for the rear and put the remaining rear Agilis on as the spare.
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Lee Th¨¦ 97 EVC Palo Alto, CA ----- Original Message -----
From: kta95409@... To: ev_update@... Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:25 PM Subject: [ev_update] tears and tires for all, the events of the past 36 hours have been overwhelming. I am sure there are people on this list that have been lost or who have lost loved ones. The everyday issues that we tend to whine about seem so mundane, and trivial now. All that aside, I drove into a hole and blew out an Agilis. I cannot find a replacement. Does anyone have a spare tire or 2 with decent tread that they would be willing to sell? (my spare is a goodyear). Peace, and hope -- Kate 93 MV Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: LP Gas refill-SF Bay Area
plthe
U Haul dealers also often sell Propane. I've used the one in Mountain View on El Camino. But Baldy's advice is good. Those minimum charges really nick us EV owners, and I've had good luck getting refills where I camp. Last one was Tuolomne Meadows in Yosemite Park. No minimum, reasonable price, competent fill/purge.
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Lee Th¨¦ 97 EVC Palo Alto, CA ----- Original Message -----
From: Baldy To: ev_update@... Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [ev_update] LP Gas refill-SF Bay Area At 07:31 PM 9/13/2001 +0000, mojowrkn@... used the 'hunt and peck' method of typing to come up with the following: >Can anyone recommend a place to get my LP refilled-preferably in SF >or on the Penninsula. > >Thanks-John >Agnes 99 EVC Almost any RV dealer sells propane. Even most RV campgrounds such as KOA and others. I've seen lots of gas stations that also sell it but beware of their higher costs and minimum charge. Your best bet is probably any Flying J travel plaza whose prices are amongst the cheapest and while they sometimes quote a minimum charge, I've seldom seen them enforce it. Baldy Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: 93 evmv cooling fans
Michael G. McCarthy
Are you certain the system is adequately charged? There is a low-coolant
cut-out switch on one of the coolant line that can be shorted to test whether the compressor engages. If the compressor kicks in when the switch is shorted then you can conclude your system might only need to be charged. ---------- From: drz400@... To: ev_update@... Subject: [ev_update] Re: 93 evmv cooling fans Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2001, 8:08 PM Ok, I did some checking and repairs. The 2 resistors under the left side headlight where broken (old), Then the auxilary water pump was ceases because of a leaking sensor wired to it. Both were replaced. My 50amp fuses are not blowing anynmore. Now I'm getting to the A/C that is not working. I tried this afternoon to turn on the contact without starting the engine and turn on the A/C. The front fans on the radiator are not starting so I conclude I have to go through the checks for the 5 relays on top of the left side headlamp. Can someone confirm that this will be the 1st step. Again, my A/C is not starting, the Compressor is not engaging, and the fans are not starting. Thanks Christian --- In ev_update@y..., "Christian R." <drz400@c...> wrote: Thank you for the precious informationare locatedwork byon your EV, and basically what they do. Remember, these things somethingmoving HEAT around (you don't move "cold" around). You making heathotter by moving heat in, and you make something cooler by moving out.times and runplasticat three different speeds (between each fan and the engine is a controlled byshutter system than opens and closes by a mechanical lever set ofexpanding/contracting wax). The three speeds are controlled by a circuitrelays (behind the driver's side headlight) that determine which through a pairsupplies the fans with current. Those relays send current ofpanel) to setheavy-duty resistors (under the headlight behind an exterior fuses -- onethe various speeds. The entire circuit is protected by three relays), andinside the EV on the fuse panel (controlling current to the the(controllingother two in the small plastic housing behind the headlights above willcurrent to each fan). Practically every component mentioned needwhichto be repaired/replaced at some point. movespassengerheat out a mixture of water and anti-freeze for the engine and heat outcompartment heaters, and the other is the evaporator, which moves are aof R134a refrigerant for the air conditioning system. The coilsthemselveswill quite possibly last the entire life of the vehicle. There bunchalong theof control/sensor/sender components along the coolant lines and berefrigerant lines that will eventually fail and will then need to stuffdiagnosed and repaired. The lines and hoses connecting all this andtogether are generally very reliable, but there are a few hoses fittingsdash. There(just a few) that are known to fail. isand a fanalso a fan on the floor forcing air through another small coil, inyetthe back (if you have rear air conditioning) forcing air through anotherfans arecoil and distributing it through the roof vents. All or these fuses on themultiple speed (determined by resistors) and are protected by andfuse panel. The large interior fan can suffer bearing failure, resistorOne is thepacks can fail too. movesheater coil, containing a mixture of water and anti-freeze, which heattemperatureinto the cab when the 4-speed fan is running and red/blue containingcontrols are set the right way. The other coil is a condenser, speed fanR134a refrigerant, which moves heat out of the cab when the 4- isThere isrunning and red/blue temperature controls are set the right way. floor nearalso a small coil containing water/anti-freeze underneath the if youcenter of the rear cab for moving heat into the rear. Finally, havecondenserthe rear air conditioning option then there is another coil (a compartment.containing r134a) for moving heat out of the rear passenger all thisAgain, the hoses, lines, fittings and control gizmos connecting likely laststuff together might fail, but the coils themselves will most the entire life of the vehicle. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <> . |
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Re: 2001EVC not on the Level?
plthe
They work fine on pavement but you have to make sure there isn't any gravel--otherwise they'll chip/crack. I've stacked 'em five high on asphalt quite a few times.
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Lee Th¨¦ 97 EVC Palo Alto, CA ----- Original Message -----
From: serge@... To: ev_update@... Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:33 PM Subject: [ev_update] Re: 2001EVC not on the Level? My 2001 EVC is definitely not on the level - it is lower in front than in rear. I did level it and installed a pair of Hoppy levels - one on the dash and one on the driver door... Very useful. I agree that it would be nice to be able to level the fridge independent of the van, however, leveling the van has the added benefit of providing a level bed... I've had pretty good luck with those plastic orange leveling blocks. Got two sets of 10 at Camping World. I've broken two, but they replace them at no charge. I don't recommend using them directly on asphalt or cement. For off-pavement camping they're great. For pavement, they probably need something to pad them underneath to prevent cracking under stress. Serge 2001 EVC "Beluga" --- In ev_update@y..., wiliam meyer <wmeyer@c...> wrote: > it would make more sense to have the fridge installed so you > could level it rather than the whole eurovan. > anyone have a comment on this? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Propane adapter alternative
plthe
I've needed none of this. When I get the tank refilled I just get out one leveling block and run the rear tire up on it.
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Lee Th¨¦ 97 EVC Palo Alto, CA ----- Original Message -----
From: catzzman To: ev_update@... Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 5:38 PM Subject: [ev_update] Propane adapter alternative Tom has a great idea, but if you want to save a little money and not carry 'one more part' around with you, I suggest you replace the original fill valve (that's the valve with the yellow cap) with one that has already has a built in 45 degree angle. You'll lose whatever amount of propane you had in the tank because the tank must be drained to install the new fitting, but it works great and there is plenty of clearance for the black cover. I'm surprised that the propane parts dealer didn't suggest this to Tom. Anyway, the part cost me $17.66, plus a tank refill. Sooo, no more problems with refills and no extra adapter to cart around. ----- Original Message ----- From: gself@... To: ev_update@... Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 6:47 PM Subject: [ev_update] Re: AZ - Propane adapter Tom The propane adaptor ONLY should be connected when your are filling your tank. DO NOT LEAVE the damn thing connected. We have had trouble filling at older, smaller propane stations with the LONG old end on the propane hose. To this they would put on an adaptor to convert to the new style. Since the fill point on the tank slopes at almost a 45 degree angle toward the ground, this hose just could not connect without jacking up the van. Again, DON'T leave the adaptor on except when filling your tank. . . . . .Gary of Grass Valley --- In ev_update@y..., "Tom Wilds" <wildst@b...> wrote: > Just a question or two.. > > 1) When I've had my tank filled here in SC, they don't seem to have any > problem getting to the standard connector. Is there something about your > area that makes it difficult to connect to the EVC's propane tank ? > > 2) Are you concerned at all that the adapter sticks out a bit far ? > > ? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: egr valve reset
Al,
My '97 EVC "check engine light" came on over Labor Day Weekend at 48,600 miles. Stopped to make sure mechanicals were ok, and drove on. Couldn't get it into a shop (on the road, plus holiday weekend,) so went to Auto Zone and bought an ACTRON OBD II Diagnostic Tester (model CP9035.) Plugged it in, and discovered that the EGR valve had a malfunction (code 400.) Called my mechanic at home, and he said that sometimes the sensor in the EGR gets deposits on it, and that can cause a trouble code to pop up and turn the light on. He told me to clear the code with the tester and drive the van and see if the light came back on. Well, it has been 800 miles and it hasn't come back on, and I had it looked at, and the valve was functioning properly. Now, this wasn't as cheap as sticking a pencil in a hole (tester cost me 150.00) but I was able to drive on worry-free and now I have another tool in the garage. --- In ev_update@y..., Al Ferguson <eurovan97@y...> wrote: Long time lurker, first time poster...Messenger |
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Re: 93 evmv cooling fans
Ok, I did some checking and repairs.
The 2 resistors under the left side headlight where broken (old), Then the auxilary water pump was ceases because of a leaking sensor wired to it. Both were replaced. My 50amp fuses are not blowing anynmore. Now I'm getting to the A/C that is not working. I tried this afternoon to turn on the contact without starting the engine and turn on the A/C. The front fans on the radiator are not starting so I conclude I have to go through the checks for the 5 relays on top of the left side headlamp. Can someone confirm that this will be the 1st step. Again, my A/C is not starting, the Compressor is not engaging, and the fans are not starting. Thanks Christian --- In ev_update@y..., "Christian R." <drz400@c...> wrote: Thank you for the precious informationare locatedwork byon your EV, and basically what they do. Remember, these things somethingmoving HEAT around (you don't move "cold" around). You making heathotter by moving heat in, and you make something cooler by moving out.times and runplasticat three different speeds (between each fan and the engine is a controlled byshutter system than opens and closes by a mechanical lever set ofexpanding/contracting wax). The three speeds are controlled by a circuitrelays (behind the driver's side headlight) that determine which through a pairsupplies the fans with current. Those relays send current ofpanel) to setheavy-duty resistors (under the headlight behind an exterior fuses -- onethe various speeds. The entire circuit is protected by three relays), andinside the EV on the fuse panel (controlling current to the the(controllingother two in the small plastic housing behind the headlights above willcurrent to each fan). Practically every component mentioned needwhichto be repaired/replaced at some point. movespassengerheat out a mixture of water and anti-freeze for the engine and heat outcompartment heaters, and the other is the evaporator, which moves are aof R134a refrigerant for the air conditioning system. The coilsthemselveswill quite possibly last the entire life of the vehicle. There bunchalong theof control/sensor/sender components along the coolant lines and berefrigerant lines that will eventually fail and will then need to stuffdiagnosed and repaired. The lines and hoses connecting all this andtogether are generally very reliable, but there are a few hoses fittingsdash. There(just a few) that are known to fail. isand a fanalso a fan on the floor forcing air through another small coil, inyetthe back (if you have rear air conditioning) forcing air through anotherfans arecoil and distributing it through the roof vents. All or these fuses on themultiple speed (determined by resistors) and are protected by andfuse panel. The large interior fan can suffer bearing failure, resistorOne is thepacks can fail too. movesheater coil, containing a mixture of water and anti-freeze, which heattemperatureinto the cab when the 4-speed fan is running and red/blue containingcontrols are set the right way. The other coil is a condenser, speed fanR134a refrigerant, which moves heat out of the cab when the 4- isThere isrunning and red/blue temperature controls are set the right way. floor nearalso a small coil containing water/anti-freeze underneath the if youcenter of the rear cab for moving heat into the rear. Finally, havecondenserthe rear air conditioning option then there is another coil (a compartment.containing r134a) for moving heat out of the rear passenger all thisAgain, the hoses, lines, fittings and control gizmos connecting likely laststuff together might fail, but the coils themselves will most the entire life of the vehicle. |
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EV Factory Alloys
The dealer near my home in Kansas City, Baron VW, ordered four new
7"x15" "Rondo" style, five-spoke Alloys for a EV customer. The customer failed to pay and now they are stuck with the alloys but are willing to sell to anyone at their cost which they say is $167.50 each + postage. The part number is 7D0 071 490 666. List price is $225 each. Contact Baron's parts manager, Brian 913 722 9500 (Nice guy). The wheels can be seen on the VWOA website under wheel options for the EV. I am told they fit all EV's, even the early ones. I think these wheels may standard equipment on all 2001 EV's. They treat me fairly with my VW parts and service requirements so I trust they will treat you right, too. Bruce Braun |
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Re: Overheating - HELP !!
JC,
Need more info, so the temp gauge just started showing this? Is it happening in city driving? Towing? in hot weather only? Is your coolant level low? what happens when you run the heater when its at 230? Do you know if the fans work? ... Jerry --- In ev_update@y..., ieworld@y... wrote: Hi All:this kind of scenario. |
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Re: Wanted suggestions for Lightweight flatbed trailer
Reg,
Try the search function on trailers. THere are a few folks out there who have trailers. Oh, also check the files section, there are some pics. Jerry --- In ev_update@y..., tya <tya@c...> wrote: Dear List,trailer to tow behind a Eurovan. Contents will be a 250 lb ultra lightinches and two wings each about 13 feet long to be carried. I am hoping tobuy such a trailer in Kansas and tow it back to Canada with the aircraft Iwas going to buy in Emporia KS. |
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Re: Battery power
Michael G. McCarthy
Thanks everyone for the encouragement, but this whole business of traveling
during this situation is stressful enough for Kathy, and I just decided to order the parts from europarts-sd and leave her out of it. I think I can "go electric" for a week or so while waiting for UPS to deliver. I'm more worried that Kathy's flight will be delayed/rescheduled and the kids and I will have to subsist for ANOTHER week on Top Ramen and Cheerios. Mike <-- can fix ANYTHING except a decent meal ---------- From: wiliam meyer <wmeyer@...> To: ev_update@... Subject: Re: [ev_update] Battery power Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2001, 5:36 PM i agree, your wife should be able to bring them on the airline. keep them in original packaging and inform the security check. they can than open them and/or just x-ray them. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <> . |
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Re: LP Gas refill-SF Bay Area
Baldy
At 07:31 PM 9/13/2001 +0000, mojowrkn@... used the 'hunt and peck' method of typing to come up with the following:
Can anyone recommend a place to get my LP refilled-preferably in SFAlmost any RV dealer sells propane. Even most RV campgrounds such as KOA and others. I've seen lots of gas stations that also sell it but beware of their higher costs and minimum charge. Your best bet is probably any Flying J travel plaza whose prices are amongst the cheapest and while they sometimes quote a minimum charge, I've seldom seen them enforce it. Baldy |
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Re: Overheating - HELP !!
--- In ev_update@y..., "Christian R." <drz400@c...> wrote:
I just fixed my temp gauge yesterday night.mean by hot the gauge goes to the last mark before the end on the top.Christian, There have been a lot of posts on this topic in the past, and it would probably be worth your time to search them. My personal experience (having the done the "fix" more than once) is that, if the VR problem is occurring, both the temp gauge and fuel gauge malfunction together. So, if your fuel gauge also is reading incorrectly, you may want to re-do the VR fix. If only the temp gauge is in question, is your engine in fact overheating? Are the fans running full blast? If it appears that your temp gauge is reading incorrectly, the problem may be the sender plug (about $35) located on a flange at the front of the engine. Previous posts describe this item and its location (I recall that there are two sender plugs on the flange). Can a voltage regulator be ruined by solder gun heat? I have wondered that myself when doing the fix. Steve at Europarts San Diego sells the VR, so they must go bad from time to time, but I will leave it for greater minds to say. Joe |
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Re: Battery power
Tom Wilds
Have your wife put the rollers in her luggage, check the luggage, and she
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will be fine. I also suspect that if she leves them in the origonal packaging, and shows them to the security agents, she will also be fine. They will spend more time looking into her purse, briefcase, etc. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian R." <drz400@...> To: <ev_update@...> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [ev_update] Battery power Your wife can always check in the bag and it will go under.five LewisVW dealers in the greater Cincinnati area. VWthem)has the rollers, but I'm reluctant to ask Kathy to try to carry them onher ofand could ship them UPS, which will take at least a week under the best plentycircumstances.the withfor me, so I'm calling Steve and will wait a week or so. alimited range that has to be recharged every night! ____________________________________________________________________________ __ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! |
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Re: Battery power
Michael G. McCarthy
Well, the wrinkle with that idea is that the plane is flying to Columbus,
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with a connection in Cincinnati where she plans to leave the plane. I'd have to drive to Columbus to retrieve the luggage! ---------- From: "Christian R." <drz400@...> To: <ev_update@...> Subject: Re: [ev_update] Battery power Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2001, 3:55 PM Your wife can always check in the bag and it will go under. I do not think that could be a problem even with the current events. Christian ----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...> To: <ev_update@...> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:46 PM Subject: [ev_update] Battery power I could not find serpentine belt idler rollers in stock at any of the fiveVW has the rollers, but I'm reluctant to ask Kathy to try to carry them onher trying to explain why she's carrying them on board to airport securitythe fans are kicking on and off, and the fuel pump is pumping, and theignition is firing. I turned it off and cranked it again......the starter wasalone, and still have enough battery left to crank the starter, and that's plentya limited range that has to be recharged every night! ____________________________________________________________________________ __ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <> . |
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Fan Speed Control Problem
Hi,
I own a 1995 Eurovan Camper and have had trouble with the air distribution system fan control switch. When I bought it in 1999, the fan speed control only worked in position #4. The other positions didn't seem to turn on the fan at all. The VW dealer "debugged" the problem and replaced the switch. The new one worked well until I moved the control lever to the defrost position. I then noticed that the first three positions were again not working. Moving the control lever away from the defrost position had no affect. Only position #4 works now. It has been mentioned that the problem might be the resistor pack but since the control worked for a while when replaced, I wonder if it is something else. Any similar experiences out there? Any solutions? I dread having the dealer "debug" it again at $70/hr! Thanks, Jon |
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Re: Battery power
Christian R.
Your wife can always check in the bag and it will go under.
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I do not think that could be a problem even with the current events. Christian ----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...> To: <ev_update@...> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:46 PM Subject: [ev_update] Battery power I could not find serpentine belt idler rollers in stock at any of the fiveVW has the rollers, but I'm reluctant to ask Kathy to try to carry them onher trying to explain why she's carrying them on board to airport securitythe fans are kicking on and off, and the fuel pump is pumping, and theignition is firing. I turned it off and cranked it again......the starter wasalone, and still have enough battery left to crank the starter, and that's plentya limited range that has to be recharged every night! ______________________________________________________________________________ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... |
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