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We bought our Canandian imported Eurovan a year ago at Carter in
Seattle. We do not have any piston slap; no problems at all after a
year. We went on a short trip to the Oregon coast and the Cascades in
Oregon in July. I drive it to work every day (about 9 miles one-way).
I have one question: The read-out 'screen' on the ceiling console
blinks 15.1 volts when it is supposed to be reading the stored volts of
the aux. battery. (When that battery is being used, like to run the
frig., it reads lower, accordingly). Does anyone know what the 15.1
volts blink means???
Thanks. - Jay

The '93 EV MV just turned 100K and we took it in for a little service this
past week. I had the transmission fluid and filter changed and the mount
replaced.

I don't drive this very much, as my wife has taken it over and with her job
and running the kids around, I hardly ever see it.

I drove it to the auto parts store yesterday and noticed that it is a bit
quieter and shifts smoother. There was no clunking between 3rd and 4th. I'm
not sure if this is a result of the replaced mount or the fluid change.

At 100K, we have put 28K miles on it in 10 months. The Nokian tires are
holding up very well with lots of miles left on them. The EV has held up
quite well, and I am trying to concentrate on getting all the normal service
items checked. I now carry a spare serpentine and timing belt, and will have
the brakes inspected this week.

New shocks may be in the future, but I did not notice any problems with the
old ones. The fuel line situation still needs to be resolved. I was hoping
VW would come through and replace them for free.

We are very happy with the EV as long as the head gasket doesn't need to be
replaced. I'll check my extended warranty, however it only claims to cover
"failure of internally lubricated parts"

Other than the fuel line problem, seam rust, and the AT mount, we have not
experienced (yet) any of the other common problems.

Steve Lashley
'66 Westy
'74 Campmobile
'93 EV MV
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In a message dated 10/29/99 6:43:29 PM, gibbonsnc@... wrote:

<<There was a small, almost seepage like leak on the drivers end of the
engine, apparently right at the joint between the head and block - the
head gasket!>>

I haven't had a chance to check this out for myself, but I will take a look
and have the mechanic show me where it is leaking.

I suspect it may not be the head gasket.

Thanks for the info.

Steve Lashley
'66 Westy
'74 Campmobile
'93 EV MV
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314-614-0750
Importing German Side Tents, Carver Propane Heaters and other Accessories for
Bus, Vanagon and EuroVan

If you plan to hold on to the vehicle for some time (if you have yound
children for example) by the 99. It is a much better mechanical
package (better engine, current transmission, brakes) than the 5 cyl
set up. Plus you get all the benefits of owning a new vehicle vs a
used.

Jerry

ozcolema-@... wrote:
original article:

I've spent the day looking around the Denver area for an EV MV in

decent

shape to replace the one that was totaled in the horse accident. I

could

only find three available. I drove two and saw one in a parking lot.

1. The first was a '93 EV MV Weekender automatic with 125,000 miles

and an

asking price of $8,500 in fairly good shape. It's green and named

"Puff".

2. The second one was a '93 EV MV automatic with 112,000 miles for

$5,500 in

less than terrific shape. White.

3. There is also an EV MV Weekender here in Boulder with 83,000 for

which

they are asking $13,900 - I haven't driven this one but it has a fair

amount

of rust along the left hand body panel seam.

I like Puff the best but I am concerned about the high mileage. I'd

like to

know about peoples experience with EV's over 100,000 miles and what

it might

cost to rebuild an engine or transmission if that became necessary in

the not

so distant future.

I also came across a '99 EV MV Weekender in the back lot of a dealer

that

none of the sales people knew anything about. I'm hoping they'll be

able to

find out more on Monday.

That's it. Thanks all,
John Coleman
ex '93 EV MV 5 speed
Boulder, CO

In a message dated 10/31/99 8:28:48 AM, RBIEGEL@... wrote:

<<A spring type clamp appear to be a poor choice since I have read
that it too will leak after awhile if it is not tightened periodically. >>

When I discussed my fuel line leak with the VW Rep., he informed me that the
spring clamps should be used when the rubber hose is connected to a plastic
fuel line. He said that this was the practise on all of the new VWs.

I mentioned that spring clamps were used on the EV even when the rubber hose
was fitted to metal. The Rep said that this didn't sound right.

My leak was caused by the rubber getting old and swelling and thus not
sealing. I replaced the spring clamps with the adjustable type and this
seemed to work for a while. I've since had the hoses leak again, and I
retighted the clamps to stop it.

If I can find the correct rubber hose, I'm going to replace only the rubber
and the crimped on fittings and go from there.

Steve Lashley
'66 Westy
'74 Campmobile
'93 EV MV
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314-614-0750
Importing German Side Tents, Carver Propane Heaters
and other Accessories for Bus, Vanagon and EuroVan

My 82 Westy came with a fire extinguisher. I guess is VW knew something
then. Always a good idea - think about it, gas, rubber/plastic fuel lines,
heat, sparks...etc hummmmmm.
Grins, Chester

I have a 93 and also have looked at these lines and will continue to do
so.
I have carried a fire extinguisher since I owned it and am thinking of
getting the kind that goes under the hood and is automatic. I have
pulled and tugged these lines at different times and do not worry as
long as the clamps are tight. I will keep checking them though.

I would not recommend anyone to repair these themself. If you have a
fire and did it yourself VW is off the hook. If you request a dealer
to repair something that they are told is not wrong by VW they can only
repair it with the same parts that are on it or they become liable.

VW really needs to do something about this NOW. Before more than just a
van is lost. Look what happened to Fisher Price on the little 12v
Jeeps before they were recalled. Kids burnt, Whole houses burned down.
My EV is parked in the driveway not in the Garage. VW are you
listening!

Get the fire extinguishers Now! and keep an eye on it. Let a dealer
fix it if it leaks. I am the first to be a DIY but not on this.

Yegs


moe walters <walter-@...> wrote:
original article:

Ron,

Don't know what VW will do, but if I were you I'd replace the fuel

lines now....The $$$ are few compared to the aggravation of a fire...

Moe Walters

Today I finally took a close look at the fuel lines on my '93

EuroVan MV

5speed . The pictures and descriptions people have provided made it

easy to

spot the blue and black lines. Thanks to all for taking the time to

do this.

My lines appear to be OK so far and there is no gas smell. I have

89K. I

was afraid to touch and wiggle the lines for fear I might loosen

them up.

Instead I put a fire extinguisher under the passenger seat and gave

my wife

instructions on what to do if she ever smells fuel. I plan to

inspect the

lines regularly. I wonder what VW will do about this given all the

problems

people are having. It seems that replacement of the lines with the

same type

is not a good long term solution since the problem will only

reappear. I'm

snip snip

Yes, I agree this is not a DIY repair. I have decided to switch cars with my
wife until this is resolved. I can no longer feel safe with my family in
this vehicle. I will use it for my short commute to work with a fire
extinguisher under the seat. I'm also calling my VW dealer tomorrow and
scheduling the lines to be replaced. Thanks to all for bringing this serious
safety issue to my attention. I hope VW is listening because the longer they
wait the less likely I am to ever buy another VW product.
Ron

Yes, I suppose a bump could jar this connection too. I am concerned enough
that I am making a daily inspection. My concern is what is is the right clamp
to use. A spring type clamp appear to be a poor choice since I have read
that it too will leak after awhile if it is not tightened periodically.
That's just not an acceptable fix. I wonder what would happen if an owner
modifies the connections and then they fail causing extensive damage. Would
VW would take the position that the original system was modified and
therefore take no responsibility. Maybe the right thing to do is schedule a
visit to VW dealer and have them document the potential problem and have them
change the entire system as originally designed.
Ron

Get the color adjusted on on your TV!
it was a Burgandy GL 93 on mine. I counted 4 shots of it durning the
soccer game. Would of got the plate # but I had to look at Jasmine some
time!
And Alex calls the show Cheesey.... Well I am from WI and I like
cheese!
It is plain old couch potato entertainment. Seems VW likes that show.
I have seen a lot of VW's on there from time to time. Passat was on
there before the dealers even had them.

I also saw an EV on This Old House this week but they were visiting
over seas. (kind of like cheating) It had a raised roof with forward
facing skylights over the rear seat area with the slider door open.
Like a Road Trek Look.

Once you own one seems they just stick out in the crowd.

Yegs, Looking for EV's on VIP next! (more cheese please)

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tya <ty-@...> wrote:
original article:

I saw a Blue EV on Nash Bridges last night. In a parking lot scene

near a

soccer game if I am correct. It appeared in two scenes if I remember
correctly looked like a 92 on.

REG

John
Let us know more about the 99 MVWK if you don't drive it off the lot
yourself.
The VR6 is great.
Guess I am just dreaming. Maybe you can get the dealer to install some
of those deer whistles on the bumper that a horse could hear! (:
Sorry you have to be shopping, But glad you still can. Do you wish you
had the air bags after smacking it up? I am tossed on those things.
Yegs

ozcolema-@... wrote:
original article:

I've spent the day looking around the Denver area for an EV MV in

decent

shape to replace the one that was totaled in the horse accident. I

could

only find three available. I drove two and saw one in a parking lot.

1. The first was a '93 EV MV Weekender automatic with 125,000 miles

and an

asking price of $8,500 in fairly good shape. It's green and named

"Puff".

2. The second one was a '93 EV MV automatic with 112,000 miles for

$5,500 in

less than terrific shape. White.

3. There is also an EV MV Weekender here in Boulder with 83,000 for

which

they are asking $13,900 - I haven't driven this one but it has a fair

amount

of rust along the left hand body panel seam.

I like Puff the best but I am concerned about the high mileage. I'd

like to

know about peoples experience with EV's over 100,000 miles and what

it might

cost to rebuild an engine or transmission if that became necessary in

the not

so distant future.

I also came across a '99 EV MV Weekender in the back lot of a dealer

that

none of the sales people knew anything about. I'm hoping they'll be

able to

find out more on Monday.

That's it. Thanks all,
John Coleman
ex '93 EV MV 5 speed
Boulder, CO

Ron,

Don't know what VW will do, but if I were you I'd replace the fuel lines now....The $$$ are few compared to the aggravation of a fire...

Moe Walters

Today I finally took a close look at the fuel lines on my '93 EuroVan MV
5speed . The pictures and descriptions people have provided made it easy to
spot the blue and black lines. Thanks to all for taking the time to do this.
My lines appear to be OK so far and there is no gas smell. I have 89K. I
was afraid to touch and wiggle the lines for fear I might loosen them up.
Instead I put a fire extinguisher under the passenger seat and gave my wife
instructions on what to do if she ever smells fuel. I plan to inspect the
lines regularly. I wonder what VW will do about this given all the problems
people are having. It seems that replacement of the lines with the same type
is not a good long term solution since the problem will only reappear. I'm

snip snip

Ray:

Where do you live? Volkswagen of America bringing in a TDI T4? A dream
come true! Where do I sign up? If this is coming to you in the states,
please give me the name of the person who has taken your order.

Maynard
'82 Westy Diesel "Reinhardt"
'93 EV GL "Klinger"
'00 Golf GLS TDI "WooHoo"

Yegs,

Sure thing, If I don't get that '99 EV MV Weekender myself, I'll let you all
know what I discover.

As far as the airbag goes, I didn't need it in my situation, the shoulder
strap was sufficient. My shoulder isn't even sore from the impact. I'm sure
an airbag would have inflated and increased the repair cost. Do I want
airbags? Yes.

John

You might be OK if you never touch or jiggle the lines. But fate may
not be so kind. A large bump in the road might be enough. Mine seemed
to leak right after I had to replace a coolant hose in the same area. I
would not advise anyone to drive an EV without replacing these crimp
fittings with "real" clamps
As for the pressure, it is not high for any fuel injection system. In
fact it is alot lower then the old CIS systems used in rabbits.

I've spent the day looking around the Denver area for an EV MV in decent
shape to replace the one that was totaled in the horse accident. I could
only find three available. I drove two and saw one in a parking lot.

1. The first was a '93 EV MV Weekender automatic with 125,000 miles and an
asking price of $8,500 in fairly good shape. It's green and named "Puff".

2. The second one was a '93 EV MV automatic with 112,000 miles for $5,500 in
less than terrific shape. White.

3. There is also an EV MV Weekender here in Boulder with 83,000 for which
they are asking $13,900 - I haven't driven this one but it has a fair amount
of rust along the left hand body panel seam.

I like Puff the best but I am concerned about the high mileage. I'd like to
know about peoples experience with EV's over 100,000 miles and what it might
cost to rebuild an engine or transmission if that became necessary in the not
so distant future.

I also came across a '99 EV MV Weekender in the back lot of a dealer that
none of the sales people knew anything about. I'm hoping they'll be able to
find out more on Monday.

That's it. Thanks all,
John Coleman
ex '93 EV MV 5 speed
Boulder, CO

Rumors of the demise of the EV are greatly exaggerated, as the 2000
models are already on these shores. I doubt that they'd abandon the EV,
but they certainly don't push it.

Salespeople tend to have less knowledge on this subject than one would
hope for, but they're certainly ready and willing to answer any
question (with any answer).

Neil Wigley

brando-@... wrote:
original article:

From: RBIEGEL@...

Freeze up of rear brakes is common problem on the EV. I've locked mine in
cold weather on at least two occasions. Try to avoid using the parking brake
when you know they are wet and it will sit overnight in cold weather.
Ron

I had the problem on occasion. Upon inspecting under the van, I noticed
that there is a spring on the emergency brake cable, where it splits off to
each wheel. The mount for this had broken. I rigged it up again, and now
the problem is gone.

Tomas Jones

In NJ you can talk to Globe in Neptune (3 people on the list that I know of
including myself bought EVCs there) or Gensinger in Clifton

Alex

I just returned from a day of touring minivan dealerships, and we've
decided we want a Eurovan MV. Trouble is, they appear to be in danger
of being an orphan product here in the homogenous USoA. My local
dealer here in Princeton, NJ, seemed doubtful that the 2000s would
arrive at all, and suspects VW is preparing the smaller, sleeker van
now selling in europe for the US market. I really like the EV just as
it is, but the one they had to sell was not the MV, but the base model
(LS?) I really like the two rear facing center seats of the MV. Also,
the specs all say leather is available; was it? Finally, it would
appear that dealers would like to get rid of these great looking
vehicles, so while I'm being picky about features, I'm also hopeful of
a great price ($25K? $26K?)

Any suggestions? Anyone know of local dealers I should talk to?

thanks,

Brandon