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Re: 93 EV Engine Fire

Chris Noeske
 

Did your van have ABS?

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Golen [mailto:rgolen@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 4:17 AM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] 93 EV Engine Fire


Last night got to use my fire extinguisher....unfortunately it was on my 93
EV (which I've owned since new...). I popped out to buy my wife a little
surprise, and was heading home on the highway doing about 70 when the A/C
vents started to blow out thick black smoke. I put the EV in neutral, shut
the engine down and tried to slow down into the breakdown lane...NO BRAKES!
I used the emergency brake to stop. Grabbed the extinguisher popped the
hood a crack and began spraying and then fully opened the hood and put the
rest of the fire out.

It looks like a good part of the hoses and wiring in the engine compartment
are toast! Hopefully the EV can be put back together.


Ric


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1995 eurovan camper for sale

tdlayng@bellsouth.net
 

Amazing camper van like no other. Excellent '95 VW Eurovan camper for
sale. Audi engine/Winnebago pkg.-- refrig, stove, sink, furnace,
shower, etc. Phillips Shortwave radio. Sleeps 4. New tires. 88,000
miles. Winston-Salem, NC. $19,500. Call 1-336-785-3819/


'93 GL..rear side windows and/or roof vent?

Bill Salopek
 

Hey guys,

My '93 GL has, as you know, just the two front windows that open.

I'd like to add some more ventilation (I have rear A/C, and it does
quite well, but better airflow would be apprictaed when the A/C isn't
really needed).

I'm thinking of two possibilities:

1) replacing the side windows...the sliding door window and the window
opposite, with camper or "MV" windows...the ones where 1/2 the window
slides open.

2) installing some kind of roof vent in the rear somplace

Thoughts and opinions?

Thanks...

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Re: Gasoline Smell

Justin Scheller
 

I posted something on this long ago. I had the gas smell and leak at cold start
up. I checked and replace the clamps but it was a split fuel line on the right
side of the engine that attached to a metal line (cold start rail).
Justin


'93 Eurovan Losing Power (Resolved!)

 

After all the many helpful replies I received about my loss of power problem
I wanted to report that last Thursday finally made the decision to get the
catalytic converter replaced by a Meineke shop on the calculated probability
that the CC was the culprit. Turns out that the CC was VERY clogged (as the
technician showed me, once he had removed it). The new one cost $235
installed, which is a far cry from the $800-plus VW wanted.

The Eurovan now runs fine, without the progressive power loss and heat I was
having, and I fully expect to survive at least long enough to witness the
turn of the millennium.

But a few points:

Since the installation of the new CC, I can tell that I am getting just a
little less power when accelerating than I used to have (before the CC
problem). This is more noticeable in 4th and 5th gears, especially if I am
climbing. Should I be concerned about this? I'm assuming the air flow on
the new CC (being generic) may be a little different than on the standard VW
part.

The technician who replaced the CC told me that they don't fail on their
own, and that something damaged mine; and he advised me to try to find out
what the cause was. He suggested ignition system problems, distributor
problems, backfiring, etc.

Again, thanks to all who helped me on this.


Just Testing

 

I'm just testing to see whether the new eGroups.com list is working before I
send an actual posting. Please disregard.


Eurovan Fires

TYA
 

Dear Listmates,

I have not owned a Eurovan for long but one thing that has struck me is
the number of "FIRES" in Eurovans. There weren't that many imported to the
small underpopulated part of Canada I live in. Yet I know of at least 3
that were destroyed by fire. One in 1993 in a refueling error, and 2
others. The fires were not related to camping but engine compartment /fuel
system related.

I bring this up not alarm anyone but to point out there may be problems
associated with this aspect of EVs and to suggest if you think you have
fuel related problems get them checked out NOW>

Reg


Anyone looking for a '95 Camper

Sklashley@aol.com
 

Reply to them not me.

From: Tony and/or Donna Layng <tdlayng@...>
To: sales@...
Subject: eurovan for sale
Date: Fri, Sep 3, 1999, 9:28 AM
We're interested in selling our 1995 vw eurovan. Would appreciate ideas
on price range? In excellent conditions.

The Layngs


Re: EVC Questions (thank you)

 

I can personally vought for AutoHaus in Lancaster PA. I live in Wilmington
where there is a VW dealership only minutes from my house, but they dont
deal with EVCs. I found AutoHaus on the Web and eventually purchased from
them. They were willing to deal on the price some and actually had an EVC
waiting for me when I got there ( 51 miles away ). Their service after the
sale has been the best I have seen from any new car dealer. My salesmans
name was Jesse 717 299-2801 x 231. You can mention my name he will remember
me. This could help you in your negotiations with VW of WV. Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: john j pelszynski [mailto:jpfahrstar@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 4:24 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: EVC Questions (thank you)



On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:37:49 -0700 tmitsui@... writes:
John,
Springfield VW is the dealer I trying to buy EVC from! Although a
sales
person I
talked was knowledgeable and friendly, he would not give me discount
even a bit.
Are they a good dealer?
Thanks,
Tad
Tad,
We were able to deal with Springfield VW on the price but that was well
over a year ago. I'd continue to press them and say you can get it
elsewhere. There are a couple of dealers up in Pennsylvania that you
might check into also. I don't remember their exact locations but
calling VW at their 800 # should get you a location. With the resurgence
in sales that VW dealers are experiencing, I don't know why they won't
offer you a discount off the sticker price.
Springfield has been OK with the routine maintenance and one starting
problem we had. I've got no complaints with them.

John P.
97 EVC

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Re: Anybody have old speakers laying around?

Bruce Curry
 

I was thinking of replacing mine w/a pair of JBL's bought on egghead.com's
auction. They have multiple pairs of 4", 5.25" & 6" speaker sets for sale
w/the titanium tweeter separated. You could replace the door speakers w/the
larger pair and find a way to place the tweeters in the existing dash
assembly. (FYI: my set up is the VW 'premium' sound w/tweeters up top and
5"-ers down in the door, so I'm not sure if yours is set-up exactly the same
way.) I replaced my door speakers w/5.25" 2-way and left the tweeters up
top as well. May try again w/some 6"ers. So far no drop in audio quality
based on the additional wattage required.

If you look in egghead make sure to visit the Consumer Products/Home Audio
as well as the Consumer Products/Automotive Electronics sections as they
have inadvertantly left many sets of speakers at the wrong part of the site.
Price is usually about $49/set plus shipping and tax if you are in WA state.

Good luck.

bruce
93 ev wk

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Salopek <ws@...>
To: Eurovan Mailing List <ev_update@...>
Date: Saturday, September 04, 1999 4:57 PM
Subject: [ev_update] Anybody have old speakers laying around?


My '93 GL's speakers have rotted out...actually, it's probably only one
or two of them...I know the right front dash speaker is bad.

Has anybody upgraded their speakers and have their old ones laying
around? Wanna sell 'em?

On another note...perhaps someone has bought replacements that work
really well and aren't very expensive?


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ICQ: 20536257
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Business:
Home:

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Re: 93 EV Engine Fire

nightsky
 

Isn't there one under your drivers seat? Mine had one
Geoff



Tomorrow I buy the extinguisher.

Steve Lashley
'66 Westy
'74 Campmobile
'93 EV MV
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Re: Gasoline Smell

Sklashley@aol.com
 

In a message dated 9/3/99 1:06:24 PM, erolz@... wrote:

<<I have tried to pin it down but I can't
find the source. Does anyone have any ideas? Not knowing where the
fumes come from makes me a bit nervous, since I only carry a small fire
extinguisher.
I hope someone knows the answer . . .
thanks
Eckhard>>

Check your fuel hoses where they connect together on the right side on the
engine. The hose clamps used by VW do not seem to clamp tight enough. I
replaced mine, which stopped the leak. It started again yesterday and I
tightened the clamps to stop it. I may need to replace these lines.

I seem to only have the problem when the engine is cold.

Steve Lashley
'66 Westy
'74 Campmobile
'93 EV MV
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Re: 93 EV Engine Fire

Sklashley@aol.com
 

In a message dated 9/5/99 6:17:45 AM, rgolen@... wrote:

<<Last night got to use my fire extinguisher....unfortunately it was on my 93
EV (which I've owned since new...). I popped out to buy my wife a little
surprise, and was heading home on the highway doing about 70 when the A/C
vents started to blow out thick black smoke. I put the EV in neutral, shut
the engine down and tried to slow down into the breakdown lane...NO BRAKES!
I used the emergency brake to stop. Grabbed the extinguisher popped the
hood a crack and began spraying and then fully opened the hood and put the
rest of the fire out.

It looks like a good part of the hoses and wiring in the engine compartment
are toast! Hopefully the EV can be put back together.


Ric>>

Ric,
Sorry to hear about your fire.

I posted a few weeks back about the gas leak on my '93. I hope this wasn't
what may have caused your fire.

I replaced the hose clamps and the leak stopped. Yesterday, I noticed gas
smell again. I popped the hood and sure enough, there was a leak. I
couldn't tell which hose was leaking, so I tightened all the clamps and it
seems to have stopped.

It seems to me that the hoses only leak when the engine is cold. Is there
extra pressure in the hoses at that point? Something related to the cold
start valve?

Tomorrow I buy the extinguisher.

Steve Lashley
'66 Westy
'74 Campmobile
'93 EV MV
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Importing German Side Tents, Carver Propane Heaters and other Accessories for
Bus, Vanagon and EuroVan


Re: Gasoline Smell

nightsky
 

Could some have soaked into the absorbent mat under the engine?

Geoff

Eckhard Rolz wrote:

Thanks Steve and Mo for your help
I replaced all the clamps and hoses, but the gasoline smell is still
there. I think the clamps are tight, but who knows. Where else could
gasoline smell come from?
Thanks
Eckhard

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Re: Gasoline Smell

Eckhard Rolz
 

Thanks Steve and Mo for your help
I replaced all the clamps and hoses, but the gasoline smell is still
there. I think the clamps are tight, but who knows. Where else could
gasoline smell come from?
Thanks
Eckhard


Re: Anybody have old speakers laying around?

Eckhard Rolz
 

Thanks Ron
I just ordered back issues of the EV Update.
Eckhard


Re: Anybody have old speakers laying around?

LTVess@aol.com
 

In a message dated 9/4/99 8:04:40 PM, Evryder@... writes:

<<Basically there are
plastic catches that hold the speaker grill in place. Careful lifting and
gently bending of the tabs will get it off. >>

Hmmm. In my Passat the speaker covers just pop off on their own. . .while
driving down the road.


Re: 93 EV Engine Fire

Norman Leong
 


It looks like a good part of the hoses and wiring in the engine compartment
are toast! Hopefully the EV can be put back together.

Wow, Ric, what a way to start off a Sunday morning! I'm sorry to hear of your experience yesterday. Unfortunately, electricals and harnesses are things you don't want to have problems with (ask me how I know..). Do you suppose the cause was the fuel line, or an electrical nature? I know a few years back you fixed a (potential) leak at a fuel line junction, but a lot of us are sitting/driving around with seven year old EVs, possibly waiting for the same thing that happened to you. I remember my first VW, a Type3 SB that was eight years old when I bought it. It started springing leaks in fuel line after fuel line until I finally wised up and just had them all replaced. I would think that '90s German rubber technology is better than '70's German rubber technology, though..

Let us know how this all comes out in the end. Hopefully a "simple" replacement of the affected hoses and wiring harness(es), and you're on the road again.

Norman

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Re: EVC Questions (thank you)

john j pelszynski
 

On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:37:49 -0700 tmitsui@... writes:
John,
Springfield VW is the dealer I trying to buy EVC from! Although a
sales
person I
talked was knowledgeable and friendly, he would not give me discount
even a bit.
Are they a good dealer?
Thanks,
Tad
Tad,
We were able to deal with Springfield VW on the price but that was well
over a year ago. I'd continue to press them and say you can get it
elsewhere. There are a couple of dealers up in Pennsylvania that you
might check into also. I don't remember their exact locations but
calling VW at their 800 # should get you a location. With the resurgence
in sales that VW dealers are experiencing, I don't know why they won't
offer you a discount off the sticker price.
Springfield has been OK with the routine maintenance and one starting
problem we had. I've got no complaints with them.

John P.
97 EVC

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Re: 93 EV Engine Fire

LTVess@aol.com
 

Ric,

Same thing happened to our 93 EV GL on our way home from a camping trip.
Only our A/C system was ruined, though. The fire was traced to a faulty air
conditioner pump that seized up and caught on fire. Thankfully, I keep a
fire extinguisher strapped to the side of the driver's seat. We had both
kids and the dog in the van when it happened. Talk about a Chineese fire
drill! One thing we learned is that insurance will not pay for damages unless
they are caused by fire, so make sure you tell the insurance company that you
saw flames, or they will say it was a mechanical problem, and they won't pay.
We (and witnesses) saw flames coming out of our engine compartment, so
insurance picked up the $2,500+ in repair costs.

Good luck
Todd Vess
93 EV GL
90 Passat

In a message dated 9/5/99 5:17:43 AM, rgolen@... writes:

<<Last night got to use my fire extinguisher....unfortunately it was on my 93
EV (which I've owned since new...). I popped out to buy my wife a little
surprise, and was heading home on the highway doing about 70 when the A/C
vents started to blow out thick black smoke. I put the EV in neutral, shut
the engine down and tried to slow down into the breakdown lane...NO BRAKES!
I used the emergency brake to stop. Grabbed the extinguisher popped the
hood a crack and began spraying and then fully opened the hood and put the
rest of the fire out.

It looks like a good part of the hoses and wiring in the engine compartment
are toast! Hopefully the EV can be put back together.>>