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EV fuel lines and clamps

 

I have been following this thread while I collect the parts to fix my
93. But I have grown confused.

I intended to replace the rubber hoses that connect to the black and
blue plastic fuel lines. Is this considered enough or do the plastic
hoses have to be replaced too.

I also intended to replace the spring clamps with high quality german
fuel injection clamps. Are the spring clamps considered better or worse
then the "normal" fuel injection clamps? I have noticed that on my
sisters Audi V6 that they use the high quality german fuel injection
clamps, not the spring clamps..


Re: No Leaks Here ...

Moe Walters
 

My pics are at <>, there's another set "out there" that is very good, don't remember where...

Moe Walters


If you've not seen the picture posts of the area in question, which are
great, maybe the poster can again give the URL?

Scott in Des Moines


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Re: FW: Center bench

Zaborenko, Alex, NNAD
 

The seat for our 99 EVC was $595 when we bought it with the van

Alex
99 EVC 28K miles

-----Original Message-----
From: videoimage@... [mailto:videoimage@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 4:07 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: FW: Center bench


"gary clendening" <gary-@...> wrote:
Wow...maybe inflation is really upon us? Many of the '97 readers got
theirs
for $300 or 350. Sure is a nice seat but we've used it three times
in three
years. Wow...
I paid approximately $700. US (1000 CDN) for my 1995 center seat. NEVER
used it ! I wonder where the dealers get their pricing from ?

Frank

95 EVC (Jefferson Campervan)

formerly
91 Westy (L'Escargot)
90 Westy


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Re: FW: Center bench

 

"gary clendening" <gary-@...> wrote:
Wow...maybe inflation is really upon us? Many of the '97 readers got
theirs
for $300 or 350. Sure is a nice seat but we've used it three times
in three
years. Wow...
I paid approximately $700. US (1000 CDN) for my 1995 center seat. NEVER
used it ! I wonder where the dealers get their pricing from ?

Frank

95 EVC (Jefferson Campervan)

formerly
91 Westy (L'Escargot)
90 Westy


New owner; ext.warranty question

 

Dear EuroVaneers:

We (family of four) just replaced our '84 Westfalia with a '95 GLS.
Although we (the older son and I) are still getting over the separation,
I am growing to like this new beast. Doesn't have the same 'float' the
Vanagon had on the highway, but more than makes up for it with handling
and power. One day there will be another Vanagon for me, but it will be
air-cooled! :)

Should I purchase an extended warranty? I am well aware that a new
tranny can cost thousands of dollars, but it is it something that many
people have had to replace or fix? The current tech thread is the fuel
line question, but are there EV powertrain problems that I might be able
to protect myself against with an ext.warranty?

I welcome any input; I'm also glad to have found a friendly space for EV
drivers!

Marcus Elia
'95 GLS (Lue) (short for 'blue') (named by #1 son, Piper)
Peterborough, Ontario
dela@...


No Leaks Here ...

 

...yet. Just had my 93 GL in for an oil change at 50K, and with the VW
tech went over the fuel/return lines together, which are still snug, no
noticeable deterioration, and no leaks. It's pretty helpful to have a
tech/mechanic go over things with you down there if you're not real
familiar with fuel injection systems. I thought I was, and I still
learned a few things. I decided to not/not replace anything at this
time, BUT I will be checking under the overflow tank and around the
distributor at each fill-up with a flashlight very carefully.

If you've not seen the picture posts of the area in question, which are
great, maybe the poster can again give the URL?

Scott in Des Moines


Re: RIP 93 GL

Chris Noeske
 

Pignataro VW in Lynwood WA has three of them
1) 99 black GLS
2) 99 silver GLS
3) 99 white MV (not weekender)
4) 95? EVC camper with optional third seat (don't know the price, although
its been there since mid summer)

-----Original Message-----
From: David R. Johnson [mailto:drj9009@...]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 10:45 AM
To: EV Update
Subject: [ev_update] RIP 93 GL


Well, dear friends, I'm afraid my trusty 93 GL has been unexpectedly
retired.? I was struck by an inattentive driver last week, and the damage
has resulted in a "total loss" declaration.? No injuries to my 11 year old
or me, but the van's a goner.? We were struck in the left front by another
car that failed to see me in the right lane.? We ended up in a ditch of
muddy, stinking water with a bad list to starboard.? Significant body damage
and untold mechanical damage.? Broken tie rod for sure, possible front end
drive damage, too.

One one hand, I was hoping for a possible repair since the van's been paid
off for a few years now.? On the other hand, it would never run the same.?
I'm sick about having to replace a fully functional lien free vehicle and
incur those dastardly monthly payments.? Ugh.


I'm waiting on the opening low ball from the adjuster, and the degrading
process of settling up.? It's almost as frustrating as buying a new car.?
The only good thing I've been able to determine is that I don't have to
worry about leaking fuel lines, a clunky transmission, ordering new
Bilstein's, and a cranky starter anymore.


I'm now searching for a replacement.? I would really like to stay with an
EV, since I've grown very attached to my old van.? After 157,000 miles, I
feel like I know them pretty well.? This list and the Maller predecessor
have been invaluable for long term ownership and maintenance.? My bride is
quietly pushing for a Honda Odyssey.? We're not considering any other
vehicles at this point.? I can tell you that both vans are hard to find.?
The Honda's are in high demand and short supply even though production is
increasing.? The new EV's are hard to find simply because most VW dealers
don't want to carry them.? Of the five VW dealers in Dallas/Ft. Worth, only
two will order them.? If anyone knows of a dealer with some inventory, I'd
appreciate a heads-up.? Delivery between dealers is an easy task.


I've been driving Granny's new Olds Delta.? It's a nice ride, but not a
van.? Go without your van for a few days and you'll really appreciate the
versatility of the EV.? We had soccer tournaments the past two weekends and
missed the ability to haul cargo, kids, coolers and two friendly large dogs.



The carcass is silently sitting at a body shop in Greenville, Texas,
awaiting disposition.? I have no intention of releasing it until I've
settled.? If I know where it ends up, I'll let the list know.? There are
several servicable parts that could be scavenged.? The motor was working
fine with lots of life remaining.


If any of you are aware of a dealer with some inventory or a low mileage
used 99, please email me at 'drj9009@...'.?? Thanks a bunch.


David

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Re: RIP 93 GL

Vance, Beaumont W.
 

There's a blue one for sale in Denver. Let me know if you are interested.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Noeske [mailto:CHRISN@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 10:31 AM
To: 'ev_update@...'
Subject: [ev_update] Re: RIP 93 GL


Pignataro VW in Lynwood WA has three of them
1) 99 black GLS
2) 99 silver GLS
3) 99 white MV (not weekender)
4) 95? EVC camper with optional third seat (don't know the price, although
its been there since mid summer)

-----Original Message-----
From: David R. Johnson [mailto:drj9009@...]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 10:45 AM
To: EV Update
Subject: [ev_update] RIP 93 GL


Well, dear friends, I'm afraid my trusty 93 GL has been unexpectedly
retired. I was struck by an inattentive driver last week, and the damage
has resulted in a "total loss" declaration. No injuries to my 11 year old
or me, but the van's a goner. We were struck in the left front by another
car that failed to see me in the right lane. We ended up in a ditch of
muddy, stinking water with a bad list to starboard. Significant body damage
and untold mechanical damage. Broken tie rod for sure, possible front end
drive damage, too.

One one hand, I was hoping for a possible repair since the van's been paid
off for a few years now. On the other hand, it would never run the same.
I'm sick about having to replace a fully functional lien free vehicle and
incur those dastardly monthly payments. Ugh.


I'm waiting on the opening low ball from the adjuster, and the degrading
process of settling up. It's almost as frustrating as buying a new car.
The only good thing I've been able to determine is that I don't have to
worry about leaking fuel lines, a clunky transmission, ordering new
Bilstein's, and a cranky starter anymore.


I'm now searching for a replacement. I would really like to stay with an
EV, since I've grown very attached to my old van. After 157,000 miles, I
feel like I know them pretty well. This list and the Maller predecessor
have been invaluable for long term ownership and maintenance. My bride is
quietly pushing for a Honda Odyssey. We're not considering any other
vehicles at this point. I can tell you that both vans are hard to find.
The Honda's are in high demand and short supply even though production is
increasing. The new EV's are hard to find simply because most VW dealers
don't want to carry them. Of the five VW dealers in Dallas/Ft. Worth, only
two will order them. If anyone knows of a dealer with some inventory, I'd
appreciate a heads-up. Delivery between dealers is an easy task.


I've been driving Granny's new Olds Delta. It's a nice ride, but not a
van. Go without your van for a few days and you'll really appreciate the
versatility of the EV. We had soccer tournaments the past two weekends and
missed the ability to haul cargo, kids, coolers and two friendly large dogs.



The carcass is silently sitting at a body shop in Greenville, Texas,
awaiting disposition. I have no intention of releasing it until I've
settled. If I know where it ends up, I'll let the list know. There are
several servicable parts that could be scavenged. The motor was working
fine with lots of life remaining.


If any of you are aware of a dealer with some inventory or a low mileage
used 99, please email me at 'drj9009@...'. Thanks a bunch.


David

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Re: RIP 93 GL

Justin Scheller
 

David,
Glad you and family are alright. I saw a white GLS at Capistrano VW in So. Cal.
off the 5 freeway their # is (949) 493-4511
Good luck
Justin


Re: didn't wait for the recall & circuit board for dash

 

bill segesser <bsegesse-@...> wrote:
original article:
hi volks,
had the 95 in last week for oil change and deciphering all the weird
electronics behavior (false overheating, dash lights/no lights, funky
digital clock, etc.) & decided to have fuel lines and clamps replaced
by
an independent repair shop.

Bill,


Did you have the fuel feed and return lines (located just above the
distributor - one has a black plastic hose and the other a blue plastic
hose coming out of a clamp that looks like a big bottle cap) repaired
as well? These are the ones that seem to be leaking on the 5 cyl
engines. If those weren't repaired, then you still will have problems.


Ric


Re: didn't wait for the recall & (cost update)

Bill Segesser
 

Actually, I reviewed the billing last night & my total labor was $136,
which included the time they spent diagnosing the circuit board problem,
so not quite so bad. I imagine a typical shop will charge an hour of
labor or so.

Someone else asked about the spring clamps: the mechanic we use says as
the hoses/fuel lines age, they shrink, and the clamps don't readjust
tighter (automatically or otherwise).

Considering this is no longer a concern for my family, the price was
very affordable.
Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: BROWERJR1@... [mailto:BROWERJR1@...]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 9:42 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: didn't wait for the recall & circuit board for
dash


In a message dated 10/25/1999 5:37:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
bsegesser@... writes:

<< They detected no leaks, but replaced all. I paid $139, which is a
bit
expensive (see note below), but cheap compared to the alternative of
not
fixing it & my lack of comfort in doing fuel line work myself. >>

$139 doesn't sound that bad and it's an amount I would gladly pay to
avoid
all that would be needed in replacing them on a Saturday afternoon.
Also,
when you look at your comprehensive deductible if you did have a fire I
would
again gladly pay the $139 (this is the insurance geek coming out in me).

Rolland Brower
99 Weekender

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Re: RIP 93 GL

Bill Segesser
 

David,
sorry to hear of the loss, but glad you all are ok.?
...from a posting a month or two ago, there was a dealer in OKC or
Lawson who had some ev inventory...
Bill (near Seattle, like I'd know of OK ev inventory ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: David R. Johnson [mailto:drj9009@...]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 10:45 AM
To: EV Update
Subject: [ev_update] RIP 93 GL


Well, dear friends, I'm afraid my trusty 93 GL has been unexpectedly
retired.? I was struck by an inattentive driver last week, and the
damage has resulted in a "total loss" declaration.? No injuries to my 11
year old or me, but the van's a goner.? We were struck in the left front
by another car that failed to see me in the right lane.? We ended up in
a ditch of muddy, stinking water with a bad list to starboard.?
Significant body damage and untold mechanical damage.? Broken tie rod
for sure, possible front end drive damage, too.

One one hand, I was hoping for a possible repair since the van's been
paid off for a few years now.? On the other hand, it would never run the
same.? I'm sick about having to replace a fully functional lien free
vehicle and incur those dastardly monthly payments.? Ugh.


I'm waiting on the opening low ball from the adjuster, and the degrading
process of settling up.? It's almost as frustrating as buying a new
car.? The only good thing I've been able to determine is that I don't
have to worry about leaking fuel lines, a clunky transmission, ordering
new Bilstein's, and a cranky starter anymore.


I'm now searching for a replacement.? I would really like to stay with
an EV, since I've grown very attached to my old van.? After 157,000
miles, I feel like I know them pretty well.? This list and the Maller
predecessor have been invaluable for long term ownership and
maintenance.? My bride is quietly pushing for a Honda Odyssey.? We're
not considering any other vehicles at this point.? I can tell you that
both vans are hard to find.? The Honda's are in high demand and short
supply even though production is increasing.? The new EV's are hard to
find simply because most VW dealers don't want to carry them.? Of the
five VW dealers in Dallas/Ft. Worth, only two will order them.? If
anyone knows of a dealer with some inventory, I'd appreciate a
heads-up.? Delivery between dealers is an easy task.


I've been driving Granny's new Olds Delta.? It's a nice ride, but not a
van.? Go without your van for a few days and you'll really appreciate
the versatility of the EV.? We had soccer tournaments the past two
weekends and missed the ability to haul cargo, kids, coolers and two
friendly large dogs.


The carcass is silently sitting at a body shop in Greenville, Texas,
awaiting disposition.? I have no intention of releasing it until I've
settled.? If I know where it ends up, I'll let the list know.? There are
several servicable parts that could be scavenged.? The motor was working
fine with lots of life remaining.


If any of you are aware of a dealer with some inventory or a low mileage
used 99, please email me at 'drj9009@...'.?? Thanks a bunch.


David

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Re: FW: Center bench

Gary Clendening
 

Wow...maybe inflation is really upon us? Many of the '97 readers got theirs
for $300 or 350. Sure is a nice seat but we've used it three times in three
years. Wow...

Gary
Gary and Belle Clendening
'97 EVC; "Flying Carpet"
207-6220631


Re: Snow Tire -Reply

Gary Clendening
 

Dave,

Drove Flying Carpet for two winters in Maine in described snow, slush, ice.
Worked fine as long as one remembers the thing weighs three tons....very
critical to recall as you try to stop suddenly. The Goodyears seemed
acceptable to me for 40,072 miles in all conditions. After hearing of the
poor wear that others report for the Goodyears, I can only tell of normal
tire maintenance jobs I did...but, I don't ever drive at 80 mph and prefer
travelling below 55 so I can see something as I tour. Of course I'm retired
and have a choice; we even travel on two lane roads instead of those other
fast lane expressways. That may be the difference in tire mileage.

One tire was defective and wore badly...square? The other four were fine
and I have one left for a spare with my new Agilli's from Mich. Looking
forward to a long respite from difficulty but the Goodyears seemed okay.
We're still running the original shocks, too. Again, these seem to be
effective for our demands.

Gary from Maine


Re: FW: Center bench

Tim Robertson
 

You won't be able to access the fridge with the center seat in place.
However, we find that disconnecting the center seat and rolling it out
of the way is a very quick and easy procedure. If you need the fridge,
use it -- the seat shouldn't be that big a problem.


David Radcliff wrote:


-----Original Message-----
From: David Radcliff [mailto:daradcliff@...]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 9:04 PM
To: List Eurovan
Subject: Center bench

I purchased my 99EVC in June with an agreement from the dealership
that they would sell me a center bench as soon as they could get one in
offer in writing ). Well after many calls to the dealership and plenty of
broken promises I finally got the call that my seat had arrived. The
salesman couldn't tell me how much it would cost and as I live 50 miles from
the dealership I wanted this information before I made the 100 mile round
trip. I was transferred to the parts manager who claimed that the dealer
cost for the center seat was $848.00. Of course I threw a fit since the
price that I was quoted at the time of the sale was $500.00. Does anyone
have any information on what this seat actually cost? I was finally able to
convince this dealership to sell me the seat for the $500.00 that they
originally claimed I would have to pay. I plan to pick it up tomorrow. The
dealership is close to an amusement park that has a Halloween special so I
think I will camp there for one night to take my son to the park. Any
advise on using the camper with the center seat installed? Should I fire up
the refrigerator or will I not be able to access it?
Thanks list people!

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Re: FW: Center bench

 

Getting to the fridge with the seat in is a pain but possible. You will
have to unlock lock from the bolts and slide it back. It will go far enough
back that the fridge door will clear.

Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: David Radcliff [mailto:daradcliff@...]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 8:24 PM
To: Ev_Update@Egroups. Com
Subject: [ev_update] FW: Center bench




-----Original Message-----
From: David Radcliff [mailto:daradcliff@...]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 9:04 PM
To: List Eurovan
Subject: Center bench

I purchased my 99EVC in June with an agreement from the dealership
that they would sell me a center bench as soon as they could get one in
offer in writing ). Well after many calls to the dealership and plenty of
broken promises I finally got the call that my seat had arrived. The
salesman couldn't tell me how much it would cost and as I live 50 miles from
the dealership I wanted this information before I made the 100 mile round
trip. I was transferred to the parts manager who claimed that the dealer
cost for the center seat was $848.00. Of course I threw a fit since the
price that I was quoted at the time of the sale was $500.00. Does anyone
have any information on what this seat actually cost? I was finally able to
convince this dealership to sell me the seat for the $500.00 that they
originally claimed I would have to pay. I plan to pick it up tomorrow. The
dealership is close to an amusement park that has a Halloween special so I
think I will camp there for one night to take my son to the park. Any
advise on using the camper with the center seat installed? Should I fire up
the refrigerator or will I not be able to access it?
Thanks list people!



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Re: Forensic Investigator visits my EuroVan

 

"robert n banwart" <robbanwar-@...> wrote:
original article:
Todd,

I can't find a copy of the bill right now, but the number that sticks
in my
mind is $70 for the repair to our EV lines. They replaced the lines
and
clamps in the engine compartment. They didn't do anything back by
the fuel
tank as far as I know. I think it was an hour labor + parts...no
more.

Rob
Rob,


If the feed and return lines weren't replaced, then the fuel leak
problem still exists in your EV.


Ric


Re: Light bulbs for switches?

Chris Noeske
 

The light bulb wires are tack welded(not soldered) to copper traces, which
are embedded in a plastic that has a low melting point. Mine quit working
because the leads broke at the tack weld. If you try to solder them on to
the circuit the switch plastic melts long before the solder does. If however
the light bulb is burned out you might be able to cut the leads at the base
of the old bulb and solder it to the leads of the new light bulb.

-----Original Message-----
From: gbnvic@... [mailto:gbnvic@...]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 4:56 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: Light bulbs for switches?


I've just started looking into this myself. The switches have 12 volt
"grain of wheat" bulbs ( a bulb with two wire leads) soldered onto
miniature circuit boards. I plan on desoldering them and resoldering in
new ones from radio shack. I'll post when I see how this works.
-gb
dvanulde-@... wrote:
original article:
Does anyone know the p/n and source for the bulbs that provide the
back-lighting in the rocker switches(headlight etc...)?. VW says that
the switch assy. is not repairable.

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Re: Spotted a 92 EVC

Gene Stampfer
 

FYI

Just happened to be driving by a VW dealer in London, Ontario.
I was surprised to see an EVC on the lot that looked really spotless.
I asked the dealer to let me have a look at it.
This unit looks like it just rolled out of a showroom. It was spotless,
not a mark or scratch anywhere.
The person who owned this unit (and probably his wife) must have spent all
his/their time giving it lots of TLC.
Even the ash tray and cup holders were lined with rubber pads to prevent
scratches.
It is a white 92 Westy, automatic, a/c, central door locks, equpped with a
side awning and rear bike rack.
It has 115,000 km./ 71,500 miles and the asking price is CA $ 23,900 /
approx. $15,000 US
If anyone is interested, I can get more details.


Gene Stampfer
92 EVGL / 300,000 km and still going strong.


Auto trans noise

 

My 92 Eurovan GL makes a loud momentary whine when down shifting out
of overdrive, sounds like its slipping. Has anyone else had this
problem?, someone told me it was normal. The trans was just rebuilt
about 20,000Kms ago.