Is it possible to contact the previous owner and verify the story the
salesman gave?

After months of looking for a EVC, I've finally found one, but there's a catch, and
it's a pretty big catch. The vehicle is a 99 with only 1000 miles on it. It is
essentially new. The plastic is still on the splash guard over the burners and it
appears that the fridge has never been used.

Here's the catch. It was repurchased by VW of America from the original owner.
I've gotten a couple of different stories from the salesman. One is that the owner
was in the military (the vehicle does have a military sticker) and was transfered
out of the country. The other is that the owner didn't like some squeaks and
didn't like some chipped paint.

I have problems with both of these arguments. I grew up in the military, and I've
never heard of someone buying a car back becase of a transfer. It's a valid reason
for breaking an apartment lease, but not for returning a car. For the second
reason, VWof A must be pretty kind-hearted to buy back a vehicle for squeaks and
chipped paint. I really don't see it.

I told the salesman that I was interested if the buyback was not done because of
something major -- like the engine falling out. He assures me that it wasn't, but
I don't think that I'm getting a straight story from them.

Here are my questions. Is this worth pursuing? Has anyone else been involved in a
repurchase? Does anyone know who regulates car sales in California? Maybe there's
some sort of full disclosure law I don't know about.

This looks pretty good to me. I ought to be able to pick up a new EVC at a
substantial discount, but the repurchase is a bit scary.

Curt

To improve airflow to the rear I had the following idea, but I don't
know if it is feasible.
Would it be possible to wire the rear fan in such a way that the
overhead vents (A/C) could be used for fresh air. Right now they only
blow air when the A/C is on. All one would have to do is wire the
switch so that the blower comes on w/o the A/C engaged. What do you
think? Any suggestions?
I have tried to get a sliding rear window, but my dealer claims it is
not feasible to so since VW does not offer any kits. I don't know of
any aftermarket windows and the junk yards I have contacted don't have
those windows. Any suggestions?
Eckhard
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If it was bought back there should be a title with the PO name and address.
If it was not bought back(like if it is a demo or something (or worse stolen
off the lot),there will still be a MSO from the factory instead of the title.
I worked for a Nissan dealer a few years back. Nissan had a whole bunch of
"PAINT DAMAGED" cars. These were cars that the cosmoline had worn off and the
clear coats had small bare spots from acid rain. Nissan sold these cars with
Titles. I don't know if the were sold and taken back or just titled and given
to dealers as "program cars". Well to get to the end of this the dealer I
worked for sold these cars as new. When the NEW OWNERS got thier titles back
from DMV they came running back to the dealer asking why thier titles said
USED.

Ask the dealer to give you a copy of the MSO or the TITLE. This will give
you a clear indecation of what is going on. By the way what state are you
located in??

R&R GREAKER
95 Eurobago
82 Diesel Westi

I have a 93 Weekender with the sliding rear windows and hardly, if ever, use
them opened when the EV is moving. They make too much wind noise and provide
little if any air circulation.

Part of my goal is to decrease the wind buffeting on my head when the
driver's side window is down.

Figuring that wind behaves the same in most vehicles, it's always been
my experience in a car that when just the front window is down, the
driver's head gets buffeted quite a bit...but then lower the rear window
behind the driver and somehow the wind just flows around nicely thru the
car wihout the head buffeting.

Anyway, it'd be nice to have the option to have them open in some cases.

--

Bill Salopek
ICQ: 20536257
No worries...
Business:
Home:

Well 9 hours into the cruise control installation we have gotten back the
high beams, the horn, and the flasher.

The problem was absolutely filthy contacts and interior on the donor cruise
control arm and switch. You can't believe how small these bits will come
apart after cleaning the heck of a bunch of this stuff it works.

The only problem we are left with the cruise control doesn't work. The
cruise switch has been tested extensively for continuity and function, from
the switch to the stock, to wiring harness to the loom.

The vacuum pump works when we apply power to it, and the pump generates
suction. The problem is you can't bench test stuff that only goes active
at 30 kmh or faster.

The remaining questions are:
1. Can anyone fax me the pages from Bentley on troubleshooting the cruise
system?
2. I would like a list of the relays by position and number from a vehicle
with auto, air, cruise. Alternately if you know what position the
relay(s) or relay for cruise is I would like to know what the relay # is
and the position I should find it in.

Reg

phone or fax 780-459-0813.

Gary

It was me, my wife, dad, mom, and brother .... making our way up the coast
for the weekend

Alex

We purchased a 99 EuroVan MV in July, the one we bought did
include the curtains. In talking with the salesman, it appears the
only difference between the Weekender and the MV (for 1999) is;
no pop top on the MV and no cooler under the left hand jump seat.

Howard

I believe someone posted to this group trying to drum up support for
getting all 93 EV's recalled for this serious safety problem. The fact
that VW has not done this on it's own is a good reason for not buying
their products in the future. The new Passat is a great car, but I for
one would not buy it until I see more integrity demonstrated by VWUSA
on this. It's one thing to not stand behind annoying design problems;
it's another entirely for not addressing a potentially deadly problem
that is relatively inexpensive to fix.

I replaced all of the crimp cramps with top quality ABA brand screw
clamps that do not damage hoses. The thing still leaked at cold. After
much frustration, I traced the problem to the two lines (one blue and
one black) that come from the gas tank. The lines are a hard plastic
that terminate with a brass ferule to a short rubber line that connects
to the metal fittings near the engine. The ferule clamps down over the
two lines and a brass tube in the middle. The problem is that the
rubber line cracks very prematurely with age; you can not see the tiny
cracks until you dissassemble it. There are two fixes: replace both of
the lines completely (expensive parts and a complicated repair to get
at the fuel tank). One could probably persuade VW to pay for this with
enough persistence. This is preferred, since the other end of the line
down at the gas tank may have the same cracking going on. That end is
exposed to much less heat, however.

The second is to carefully dissamble both of these lines, preserving
the inner brass tube. The rubber tube can be replaced by a same size
fuel line, and clamped over the hard plastic tube after forcing the
brass tube inside it (this takes some persistence). This approach has
worked fine for me, and has been working well for over a year at all
temperatures. Obviously, I can't recommend it to anyone else given the
safety issues involved.

-Gregg Burgess

开云体育

Must say the rear seats are cool for conversation as well as the occasional rained-out picnic.聽 The only down-side is that the front seats do not recline at all when the two rear-facing seats are in place.聽 This can be troubling when passenger A wants to lean back a tad for a little shut-eye.聽 Solution is to remove the jump seat when camping and when 7 passenger seating is not needed.聽 Good spot for the cooler - seat belt wraps right around it and goes thru both handles - allowing access by long armed drivers.聽

MV storage is excellent - extending waaaay under the folding bed.聽 I can get all my camping gear under there leaving the back deck for clothing, food and necessities.聽 I think that there should be some curtains hidden away on-board that snap into place.聽聽 My weekender has them.聽

We rarely use the table other than for the occasional on-the-road or rained-out camping meal. I will sometimes use it to place a small VDO camera so my kids can watch a movie during a particularly long stretch of highway.聽 Nice to know its there in a pinch tho.聽

Bruce

93 MV WK

Does the rear seat fold down into a small bed on an MV?聽 It also looked like it had a nifty storage compartment behind the rear bench, a la the Camper set-up.

This model was not a weekender version, but looked like curtains could be added.聽 I'm curious to know from current MV owners whether the rear facing seats are useful or a novelty.聽 The little table was handy, but again, is it useful?聽 Is the MV as versatile as it appears?

In a message dated 9/7/99 6:19:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
hfleming@... writes:

<< In talking with the salesman, it appears the
only difference between the Weekender and the MV (for 1999) is;
no pop top on the MV and no cooler under the left hand jump seat. >>


The Weekender gets the curtains that slide instead of snap in place as well
as the extra battery and I think a larger alternator. My only regret is I
wish the AC was better venilated to the rear.

Rolland
99 Weekender

In a message dated 9/7/99 5:57:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
taizo@... writes:

<< Must say the rear seats are cool for conversation as well as the
occasional rained-out picnic. >>

This was one of the big factors when we got our Weekender. We tailgate
before and after college football games and in Oregon we do get 1-2 games
with some drizzle. Also during the summer months we crew for hot air
balloons in the local area. Makes for a nice place to hole up if we are
trying to out smart a windy day.

Rolland
99 Weekender

In a message dated 9/7/99 3:24:26 PM EST, drj9009@... writes:

<< While at my FLVWD today (my breakaway mirror broke), I noticed a slightly
used '99 MV on the lot.&nbsp; It had the two rear facing middle seats.&nbsp;
Not wanting to be bugged to death by a salesman, I peered inside solo.&nbsp;
Does the rear seat fold down into a small bed on an MV?&nbsp; It also looked
like it had a nifty storage compartment behind the rear bench, a la the
Camper set-up.

This model was not a weekender version, but looked like curtains could
be added.&nbsp; I'm curious to know from current MV owners whether the
rear facing seats are useful or a novelty.&nbsp; The little table was handy,
but again, is it useful?&nbsp; My wife has a Honda CRV which has a small
folding table and cooler under the rear deck.&nbsp; It's a clever idea,
but we've only had the table out once since we bought it (a demonstration
to my in-laws).&nbsp; Sometimes clever ideas exceed practicality.&nbsp;
Is the MV as versatile as it appears? >>


I have the 93 Weekender and for my use I find:
1) The rear facing seats are useful when you need to transport more than five
people. However, since our normal household consists of only my wife and me,
I have taken out those two seats to provide more room to haul "stuff." When
we have visitors, we put the two seats back in and use the EV to transport up
to seven people short distances (up to about an hour one way). When the rear
facing seats are in, the front seats cannot be reclined and often are better
suited if these seats are moved a little forward so that the middle seat
backs can be reclined from a straight up position.

2) The table is quite useful for meals and/or for a passenger to do paper
work. For safety reasons, the table is not supposed to be up when the
vehicle is in motion; however,....

3) The rear bench seat folds into a comfortable bed. I would not describe
the bed in the MV as "small." There is plenty of room there. This is in
contrast to the Camper version which has cabinetry on the left side impinging
on the bed's width. In the MV, when some sporting buddies and I travel to
races, we often travel with the bench seat made into a bed and we have two
guys resting while the other two navigate. Again, safety says the passengers
should have their seat belts fastened when the vehicle is in motion and the
head rests up but, here again, we do what we find is convenient.

4) If you have kids in the vehicle, I think you need to be very safety
conscious and ignore the above points.

Bob

In a message dated 9/7/99 12:08:29 PM EST, ws@... writes:

<< 1) replacing the side windows...the sliding door window and the window
opposite, with camper or "MV" windows...the ones where 1/2 the window
slides open. >>


I have a 93 Weekender with the sliding rear windows and hardly, if ever, use
them opened when the EV is moving. They make too much wind noise and provide
little if any air circulation. When we travel with more than two in the EV,
the ventilation system (A/C, heat, or just vent) is in operation.

Now when we camp, it's a different story.

Bob

We love our 99 MV. Shortly after we got it a couple of months ago we (2
adults, 4 kids) took a trip from NC to ME. The table was up most of the
time, being used for card playing, coloring, etc. Nobody got sick in the
rear-facing seats.

The rear seat does fold to a bed, but when it's configured that way, the
rear-facing seats are folded up and unusable. Our '90 Vanagon GL had the
forward facing middle bench, and could have the middle bench in use with the
bed configured. We miss that part.

Tim

On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, InPhase ReSearch wrote:

We chose the non weekender version for the rear AC (not available on the
Weekender). We have show dogs, and when we go to shows, we pop out the
rear facing seats, and throw in the dog crates. It is a truly versatile
van. We plan on trading the '93 for a '99 or 2000, one of these days.

Well it works for show ferrets as well as for show dogs. Yes you can
actually show ferrets...

Had a llama take a ride in ours once as well.

bill
--
bill and diane killian
zen and the art of ferrets

mailto:killian@...

As to David's inquiry about the MV, we love ours; a '93 (not a weekender).
The rear facing seats are great for conversation in the back. I have
hauled grandkids, band members, friends, and it is the same; everyone
enjoys it. the table is great for games (although VW does not recommend
having it up while driving, we have never had a problem. The bed is a
nice touch, although we augment it with self inflating foam camping pads.
Instead of draw curtains (like the weekender), the MV has snap on curtains
to block out the light.

We chose the non weekender version for the rear AC (not available on the
Weekender). We have show dogs, and when we go to shows, we pop out the
rear facing seats, and throw in the dog crates. It is a truly versatile
van. We plan on trading the '93 for a '99 or 2000, one of these days.

Cheers

Tomas Jones

On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, David R. Johnson wrote:

While at my FLVWD today (my breakaway mirror broke), I noticed a slightly
used '99 MV on the lot.� It had the two rear facing middle seats.� Not
wanting to be bugged to death by a salesman, I peered inside solo.� Does
the rear seat fold down into a small bed on an MV?� It also looked like
it had a nifty storage compartment behind the rear bench, a la the Camper
set-up.

This model was not a weekender version, but looked like curtains could be
added.

If the '99 is like the '93, it should come with snap in curtains and yes
the bench can become a table. The vast majority of the time the bench is
up and the table is down. But sure is nice for those other times. At
least in our uses.

We had a lot of trouble with the handy dandy flourescent light falling
off on our '93 MV. THe table would sometimes not latcha all the way and
rattle but a quick shove always solved that.

--
bill and diane killian
zen and the art of ferrets

mailto:killian@...

While at my FLVWD today (my breakaway mirror broke), I noticed a slightly used '99 MV on the lot.聽 It had the two rear facing middle seats.聽 Not wanting to be bugged to death by a salesman, I peered inside solo.聽 Does the rear seat fold down into a small bed on an MV?聽 It also looked like it had a nifty storage compartment behind the rear bench, a la the Camper set-up.

This model was not a weekender version, but looked like curtains could be added.聽 I'm curious to know from current MV owners whether the rear facing seats are useful or a novelty.聽 The little table was handy, but again, is it useful?聽 My wife has a Honda CRV which has a small folding table and cooler under the rear deck.聽 It's a clever idea, but we've only had the table out once since we bought it (a demonstration to my in-laws).聽 Sometimes clever ideas exceed practicality.聽 Is the MV as versatile as it appears?

Thanks in advance,
David

Did your van have ABS?