Source Impedance Calculator for FULL WAVE RECTIFIER, Measured Data, Secondary, Winding resistance value
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(red-ct-red) For full wave rectifier, do we enter the measured full (red-red) Secondary winding's DC resistance into the Secondary winding resistance field of the Calculator? Or, do we enter only half (red-ct) of the full winding's DC resistance value? If the later, should we take the measured red-red ohm value and divide by 2 since the two red-CT values are never identical? (The off-load voltage of the two halves of the winding are never identical as well so I assume we use the full red-red voltage value divided by two.) Thank you! and thank you for PSUD2!!!
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New to PSUD2 and modeling from a schematic...
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Hi! I'm new to PSUD and practicing on a model of an existing circuit. For the life of me, I can't get the voltages to agree. All the values seem to be right but the voltages are coming up considerably lower than what is to be expected at the end of the power supply (B+). Any thoughts on why I'm falling short on voltage? I've attached an image of the schematic and my current PSUD design. I imagine I'm missing something obvious or I'm just doing something wrong in PSUD. Thanks in advance. Jonah
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Still bemused ~ as to what constitutes 'good' or 'good enough' and how to design with grace and economy...
Hello Thanks to group members answering my previous Q - adding sections and solved by tapping on a Mac trackpad (!) Yep, I had no idea. However, and having reviewed the available documentation on PSUD2, that I can find, anyway, I'm still in a quandary about what to 'look out for' and how to actually i.e. practically go about designing a 'good' 'good enough' PSU? For instance, although it's a simple task for me to measure primary and secondary winding resistances, I do not know the % regulation of my Trafo. Nor do I understand the application or function of 'current taps.' Is my 'final' load - 5kΩ or 86.5mA (the combined load of a 300B and a 6N8S / 6H8C? To me all these things are still mysteries. https://www.dhtrob.com/overige/pdf/dhtrob_psu.pdf has helped me, a little, thanks DHTROB, but maybe I''m just not 'clever enough' or cut out for this kind of thing and perhaps there may be other people in similar difficulty?
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Downloading Windows version
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I had to change computers and need to download a new copy of the PSU software. I am having trouble figuring out how to find it now. could someone please help me with this? THank you, Jay
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psu sofware
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i tried to downloaded psu sofware but it dont works ,can you help me thanks
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MacOS
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Not sure if this is the same issue, but I have not been able to run PSUD2 for months on my Mac, running Ventura 3.1. I am able to download the app, and install with the usual MacOS precautions. However, when I run the app, I get So, clicking on "OK," then the program quits with this message: I've tried removing the program, then redownloading -- but the same error continues.
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PSU Design Results
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Hi Is designed a PSU with 290v-0v-290v transformer (Imax = 100mA, 58VA, Rpri=21ohms, Rsec=238ohms) and a 57mA total load. I want to have arround 350Vdc at my B+ (with silicone diode rectifier, and only 2 RC network after the B+) I have doubts since I saw some many schematics with annotated values that let me understand that the transformer voltage might be to big. And since I am about to order it, i need some help :). I have tried the PSUD 2 method design which gives me 346Vrms I have tried the Merlin Blencowe way with very close results http://www.valvewizard.co.uk/psu.html I found the following results Rl = 290*sqrt2/0.057 = 7195 Rs=243.2 Rs/Rl=0.0338 f * C * Rl = 50 * 47?F * 7195 = 16.9 ==> Green Curve 120% of transformer RMS Voltage ==> 1.2 * 290 = 348Vdc. Many people on told me that i should get values more close to 380VDC, far to high for a 5W amp... My conclusion is they use rule of thumb by multiplying by x1.3 the RMS transformer output which should be right with a more powerfull PT arround 200mA, but in the same time, it looks their explainations are based on personal experiences. So how much reliable is PSUD in my context and should I consider to buy a lower voltage power transformer (10 volt less for exemple) to get 350VDC?
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Transformer Source Resistance
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Tube rectifiers often specify the minimum resistance required in series with each rectifier to limit peak current. For full-wave rectification, does the source resistance shown in PSUD refer to the whole secondary winding or, as with the voltage, half of it?
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Negative capacitor?
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I had a sim would not resolve. "Timestamp has fallen..." On re-entering I realized I had entered C1 as "-0.5u"... negative! The font used on my installation makes this very hard to see. While a negative capacitance has some meaning in theory, in context of PSDU users this is almost certainly a finger-fumble. I dunno if it is worth adding a sanity/censor-check to refuse negative caps. I have been using PSDU for a decade+ and I think this is the first time I made this screw-up. Hmmm, negative resistor---- ah, it accepts the input then blows-up at 5,102V. Which is probably correct: the neg-resistor is powering the circuit, just as neg-R repeaters power-over telephone line loss.
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Download error (windows)
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Hello! I am getting this error when trying to download the official windows executable from http://duncanamps.com/psud2/psud2_setup.exe Anyone seen this one before? Thanks! Forbidden You don't have permission to access this resource. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
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Help in making sense of PS design please
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So I am considering updating some old capacitors in an existing power supply B+ on a driver valve 6c45 and B+ on an output valve 211 in a single ended power amplifier. The existing design uses CLCLC for 6c45 valve and CLCLCLC for the 211. I am considering changing both of these for CLC to simplify the potential resonances/ringing in the Power supply, based upon some advice from another DIY builder, and to make them a little more responsive. I have had a number of conversations on DIY AUDIO and the question I wanted to post here is I hope quite simple, as I have a question related to PSUD2 in particular. Apart from Voltage and ripple of the stabilised supply for a steady state design objective, how can the transient response or any other additional design objective be modelled, or simulated. So far I have used the profile of the initial start up curve and put in a step change in a constant current load, and tried to make the response as rapid and oscillation free as possible? Any guidance gratefully received.
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Peak or RMS ???
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i downloaded Spice LT not too long ago, and i noticed i have to enter V * 1.414 to get my AC Voltage sources where they are supposed to be. i am designing to a 5U4GB on a 800ct secondary, and your program gives 455VDC; being that is over 400Vrms i could assume that is correct .. but the Duncan spice model literature for the 6SL7 and 6SN7 also give a maximum plate beyond the spec sheet figures. i can't afford to blow stuff up ( same reason i am doing the circuit prototype in the virtual realm first ) so, any real world verifications ???
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Economy and Rationalism
Hello Thanks to the help received from people (as an ex chemist I have some experience but zero training in electronics) I have been able to resolve a number of very basic MacBook-related PSUD2 issues - the double tap on the track pad still initiates annoyance though and hopefully there may be a way to remove the need in PSUD3? As to PSU design... it's now a relatively easy task for me to "lay out a design" with nanovolts of variation at say 10 seconds after 9 second reporting delay ~ but in truth I find I have scant real innerstanding of what that really means. Moreover those nanovolts are achieved with what I assume are huge amounts of inductance (20/40H) and large, expensive and normally non-stocked link capacitors of the sort that, if they are available, necessitate buying boxes of them from the US of A. However, when I try to model published PSU designs (e.g. Jac van de Walle/JAC Music, Menno van der Veen, Claus Byrith etc) not only do they achieve their results using, in comparison to my efforts, fewer, simpler arrangements in effect more elegant, "rational" and "economical." If that were not enough I would appreciate a steer on whether incorporating Llundahl - type double winding chokes ~ is anything "mystical." Yep there is much to learn. Thanks for the forum's continued understanding and guidance. Is a rational guide possible if not AI optimisation?!
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Help with the PSUD2 for Mac
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Hi I am trying to learn how to use the PSUD2 for Mac. I have installed the build 77 and played around a bit, but I don't see any graf. Previously I have tried build 73, but with the same result. Best regards MortenT
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PSUD News
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Hi, Thought I would string a few words together about what's happening right now and what people can expect in the future from PSUD. PSUD3 is still very much on the go, with a number of key features being implemented: CODE COMPLETED Rectifier database built into the software Rectifier curve fit to make your own from datasheets (Solver) Totally rewritten calculation engine with much better accuracy IN DEVELOPMENT New "splitter" filter to allow your power feed to split into two or more threads, each with their own filtering and load Ability to mix rectifiers within a supply (e.g. bridge with 2 x vacuum tube rectifiers and 2 x solid state) Schottky rectifiers Lots of charting improvements Dozens more minor things Hope the update is useful. I have a day job and an impending house move so don't get as much time as I would like for this, however I do try and spend some time on it each week :) Finally, a couple of screen shots of the new rectifier database showing how data sheet information is used to create or validate a rectifier model. Regards, Duncan
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I think I'm being stupid !!!
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Hi, Downloaded the Windows version from the Files page but all I seem to be able to access is the Help area. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, James.
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right click PSUD2 OSX
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Hello John, The damnedest thing ~ I tried it again and EUREKA ~ PSUD2 does indeed insert filters on a MacBook. I had no idea of the existence of that pop-up. My MacBook was bought 'refurbished' and I have some issues with it (e.g. Maps are blank every other day) so perhaps it's a case of a worker blaming her tools... I've only been using Macs since the early 1990s (and amateur programming, in Fortran and Basic, long before that ~ never something called machine code or ugghh MS DOS though ~ so I was certainly not up to speed with two-fingered tapping and I believe I'm correct in asserting that there is nothing in the (IMHO rather sparse) PSUD2 'documentation' about having to do the two-fingered shuffle to insert filters - on any operating system.) For that previously missing piece of information I have to thank you very much. I can now play the theoretical game 'do not blow up the rectifier' to my heart's content. However, this has thrown up another nasty for this naive Mac user... .PSU files ~ I can save them but cannot view them. Acrobat Reader immediately throws in the towel (corrupt attachment / not supported type blah;) whilst I could use screenshot to save them it's yet another mystery. Finally, when I do the calculations for the HEXFREDs I propose to use, I might be in position to start building an amplifier. I've only been collecting expensive parts for a decade or more. Once again, John, please allow me to say that your advice has been priceless. Siobhan Sent with ProtonMail secure email.
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PSUD2 build 73 (OSX)
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Sent with ProtonMail secure email. ------- Original Message ------- On Sunday, May 22nd, 2022 at 14:24, ZZZ wrote: Dear Group Hello. I must immediately confess that I am no engineer ~ as can readily be appreciated as I have a >gulp< MacBook Pro. Please would someone help explain how one navigates the programme to chain several filter sections, thus :- When the menu offers a choice of one and seemingly no opportunity to add more (as in the above) Many thanks B Wildered
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CLC floating point error
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Hey Duncan, Long time no speak. Glad to see PSUD is still alive and kicking. I was doing some tests on Build76 and am getting floating point errors when I use a choke greater than 18H in a CLC filter. See attachments, Jim vt52.com
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Fw: [duncanampspsud] PSUD2 build 73 (OSX)
Sent with ProtonMail secure email. ------- Original Message ------- On Sunday, May 22nd, 2022 at 14:30, neutron51493 via groups.io <neutron51493@...> wrote: Sent with ProtonMail secure email. ------- Original Message ------- On Sunday, May 22nd, 2022 at 14:24, ZZZ wrote: Dear Group Hello. I must immediately confess that I am no engineer ~ as can readily be appreciated as I have a >gulp< MacBook Pro. Please would someone help explain how one navigates the programme to chain several filter sections, thus :- When the menu offers a choice of one and seemingly no opportunity to add more (as in the above) Many thanks B Wildered
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