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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 04 November 2022 15:54
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: BBC Sounds reply, Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Interesting Steve, but this only deepens the mystery for me. Its precisely because Amazon speakers cannot access TuneIn streams that I am having all the grief I am experiencing linking my Bose Smart speaker to BBC Sounds as Amazon always tell me it cannot access these streams via TuneIn!


In fact it wil not play Mushroom FM without inviting me to subscribe to another Amazon service! What a Farce!


Ray.

Mushrooom



On 04/11/2022 03:51 pm, Steve Nutt wrote:

As far as I know, they are using Tune In streams, which I didn't think use Shoutcast.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 04 November 2022 15:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: BBC Sounds reply, Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Thanks for that Steve. so, if they are not using the Shoutcast streams then what are the streams HW are tapping into? If the Stream players are not using Shoutcast then why these messages being delivered on these players?


Any ideas?


Ray.


On 04/11/2022 03:41 pm, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi Ray,

This gives me a better understanding. If they are only removing Shoutcast, then we have nothing to worry about.

Your Stream doesn't use Shoutcast.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 04 November 2022 15:20
To: [email protected]
Subject: BBC Sounds reply, Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players
we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Hope those following this conversation will find this reply from BBC
Sounds interesting, if not very encouraging for some users of
specialist players.(Note RNIB's role as advice provider in all this.)


Forwarded message:


Thank you for contacting BBC Sounds regarding the message you're hearing about your radio streams stopping next year.

The BBC uses several streaming technologies to deliver BBC Sounds. One of these is called Shoutcast which the BBC will stop using by mid-2023.
We recommend that if you hear the message advising of the change, to follow the advice and get in contact with the manufacturer. It might be possible for the device to be updated to use another of stream technologies that we will continue to use (HLS and DASH). However, in your case, I believe the Victor Reader Trek is provided by the RNIB in the UK. So please contact the RNIB instead of the manufacturer.

We did already discuss these changes with the RNIB and I believe they did not think they would be affected by this change. It’s possible the RNIB will raise this with manufacturer Humanware.

I hope you find that helpful.

I will also explain why we are making this change. Shoutcast is an older streaming technology and many connected radio devices in the UK no longer use it. Ending support for Shoutcast will enable us to focus on HLS and DASH - the two most popular technologies currently used. As well as delivering better value, it will allow us to understand more on how our content is consumed. This forms part of our strategy for BBC Sounds and is important to help us improve the services we offer to our listeners. We informed manufacturers and other service providers of this change in May 2022.

Thanks again for getting in touch. I hope this has helped.

Kind regards,
Sarah Smith

BBC iPlayer & BBC Sounds Support Team



(end of BBC Sounds message)


I shall forward this to Humanware and maybe even In Touch but I think we can say BBC streams will be broken for some internet listeners some time next year unless some or all specialist player providers can come up with a solution. This I doubt; not without a substantial software or hardware update.


Ray.



On 04/11/2022 11:27 am, Rea Lists via groups.io wrote:

Thanks for the clarification Pele. I might contact you privately as
to exactly how you hear the sports streams.


I have managed to capture the announcement which is going out just
before the top of the hour and I caught one just before 10:00 AM this
morning. If you download the link I am pasting below you will hear
the announcement rudely plonking itself over the outgoing programme:


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nouncement_09_58_November4_2022.mp3?dl=1



Don't know if Adrian were to upload it to the files area of the group
it would be any easier to access, but feel free to do this if you like.


Contacting In Touch and Humanware still on my to do list.


Ray.


On 04/11/2022 11:01 am, Pele West wrote:

Hi Ray

I either listen to BBC on DAB or my Alexa or Google Home.

I use my phone or PC to listen to the BBC Sport streams. The VR
Stream cannot play these.

But, as I said, I like to have the stations on my Stream and listen
to them, particularly the local stations.

By the way, have you tried to link your smart speaker to BBC Sounds
on your computer? I don't know much about the Synapptic phone, I am
afraid.

Pele