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Convoluted Windows install? (was: Inconsistent CQCQCQ responses)
On 12/30/2022 3:53 AM, Michael Mandell wrote: > [Edited Message Follows] > > We use the newer version of D-Rats but not the Python 3 beta ---yet. > That one has a convoluted installation and we have enoiugh trouble > teaching the FM/HT types digital stuff already. Is this the more recent instructions that I have posted and are at , but have received absolutely no feedback on? https://github.com/ham-radio-software/D-Rats/wiki/010.010-Installation-of-D-Rats-on-Microsoft-Windows Or is this one of the older betas? The first blocking issue in simplifying things is that the official python 3 GTK package from Pypi needed for Microsoft Windows does not build on Microsoft Windows in native mode because it is incompatible with the current free edition of Microsoft Visual C++. I just do not have the time to debug this blocking issue, or see what other dragons show up once we get past that version. All searches on the wild wild web for this issue pretty much are resolved by the user switching to using msys2 for GTK packages. Some people are using Anaconda or ActiveState python distributions as there are free, but only for "Non Commercial Use". Because of that restriction, I will not be installing or testing either of those products. ActiveState has many limitations on just using the free version, such as having only one active program using it at a time. The Anaconda Python license would allow redistributing it, but I will not be testing using it to build a single install package on Microsoft Windows. Someone (not me) can try building a single package to see if it works and uploading it. It should mainly be dependent of if Anaconda provides the working GTK packages. In theory, the msys2 install that I have documented could be packaged into a single package for installation. I have not had the time to test that, and do not plan to be testing doing that. Creating a single package is a problem as would need to be recreated if any security patches are needed for any component that is not in the d-rats repository. That is a large number of components to monitor and follow alerts on. Once the msys2 environment is setup, it is really simple to keep d-rats up to date. And it is relatively easy to just run the update script to keep the msys2 packages up to data. 73, -John wb8tyw
Started by John E. Malmberg @
Can't install D-RATS 0.3.9 3
Hello, Like many people I am having an issue getting D-RATS to run on my Windows 10 Laptop with One Drive. I have followed the steps that I have seen online and nothing has helped. I will past the debug log below. Here is the troubleshooting that I have completed so far: Uninstall and re-install D-RATS. Manually create the D-RATS Shared folder on my desktop Uninstall, delete the D-RATS EV folder, and reinstall. Uninstall, make sure the D-RATS Shared folder has been created, and reinstall. Nothing I have done has helped. Here is the debug log: Mainapp : Enabled debug log for Win32 systems Version : headers={'User-Agent': 'd-rats/0.3.9 '} C:\Users\Austin\OneDrive\Documents\d-rats-0.3.9_win64\D-Rats-0.3.9_64\library.zip\BeautifulSoup.py:114: UserWarning: You are using a very old release of Beautiful Soup, last updated in 2011. If you installed the 'beautifulsoup' package through pip, you should know the 'beautifulsoup' package name is about to be reclaimed by a more recent version of Beautiful Soup which is incompatible with this version. This will happen at some point after January 1, 2021. If you just started this project, this is easy to fix. Install the 'beautifulsoup4' package instead of 'beautifulsoup' and start using Beautiful Soup 4. If this is an existing project that depends on Beautiful Soup 3, the project maintainer (potentially you) needs to start the process of migrating to Beautiful Soup 4. This should be a relatively easy part of the Python 3 migration. Qst : FeedParser not available Qst : QSTWeatherWU class retired Config : FILE: C:\Users\Austin\AppData\Roaming\D-RATS-EV\d-rats.config ('Config : ', 'C:\\Users\\Austin\\Desktop\\D-RATS Shared') Config : Creating directory for downloads: C:\Users\Austin\Desktop\D-RATS Shared ---- GUI Exception ---- Traceback (most recent call last): File "d-rats.py", line 136, in <module> File "d_rats\mainapp.pyo", line 1086, in __init__ File "d_rats\config.pyo", line 1863, in __init__ WindowsError: [Error 3] The system cannot find the path specified: 'C:\\Users\\Austin\\Desktop\\D-RATS Shared' ---- End ---- Any help with this would be appreciated!
Started by Austin @ · Most recent @
Where is the latest version of D-Rats for Linux? 2
Where is the latest version of D-Rats for Linux? It seems to not be where all the old posts point to. I just want to put it on my Raspberry Pi and play radio. Thanks in advance for any help.
Started by Frank Roginski W4FRR @ · Most recent @
Icom 9700 via USB only 2
Has anyone been able to successfully use D-RATS with the 9700 using just a USB cable? I'm able to get the radio to TX when I start D-RATS, but it TXs multiple times non-stop until it eventually stops. After it stops, I try sending a message in chat, but nothing happens. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? Someone posted the following in another thread. I've tried these settings, but no luck other than the radio TXing multiple times when starting D-RATS - Go to menu -> Set -> Connenctors -> USB(B)/Datafunctions: > Set USB (B) function to DV data > Set DATA function to DV Data > Set GPS Out to OFF > check DV Data/GPS Out Baud Rate to be as you would like to use (9600 is a good choice) - Go to menu -> GPS > Set GPS TX Mode to OFF - Go to menu -> Set -> DV/DD Set > Set DV Data TX to Auto > Depending on your partners, you may need to switch DV Fast Data off...
Started by Kevin D. Cornwell @ · Most recent @
Instructions for installing new D-Rats on Microsoft Windows 4
Hello All, I have added to the ham-radio-software WIKI information on how to install the Python3 based D-Rats on Microsoft Windows. https://github.com/ham-radio-software/D-Rats/wiki/010.010-Installation-of-D-Rats-on-Microsoft-Windows Currently the only available install is for a pre-release that I am in the process of getting reviewed and merged into the main D-Rats repository. I will leave it up to someone else to add the instructions to the Wiki for various Linux and Mac OS-X releases. Please read the notes below and try to use the pip installable tarball first before resorting to using a checkout of the repository. The process for Linux and Mac OS-X is similar, however I only have pre-built LZHUF binaries for Microsoft Windows 7 and later, and some Ubuntu and Debian releases. Everyone else will need to build their own binary and D-Rats will expect it to be placed in "/usr/local/bin". And the new binary will work on big-endian systems if anyone here is still running one. If you can contribute a pre-built lzhuf binary for a different platform, and you do not know how or have the time to create an installable package for your platform, just use gzip on the binary and create a new directory for your platform in the d-rats directory. Please also upload a file with some type of checksum for the binary that can be checked on the target platform. As the lzhuf program is now separate from D-Rats, the PIP installable tarball is now common to all platforms. Pip installs of D-Rats are currently broken for AntiX-21 Linux and Ubuntu 20.04, so D-Rats must be run from a checkout of the source repository on those platforms. The people on the python forums that I am asking for help on seem to have a working theory that something is broken on some Debian based platforms. The workaround being discussed seems to be far more work than just running D-Rats from a checkout of the repository. At this time, the current master is at least two merges behind what is in the pre-release tarball that I have put out for testing, but the only things missing are the new tarball build procedure and a fix to version.py, so it should be good enough for testing. If we can get the end user installation procedures documented, then I and others can start tackling the other bugs and misfeatures in D-Rats. 73, -John wb8tyw
Started by John E. Malmberg @ · Most recent @
WL2K Messages Sent But Never Received 4
Hi All! D-Rats newbie here. I have managed to get D-Rats to send messages to my Winlink Express email address. The Debug Log and the Event Log both show that it is successfully sent, but I never receive them via a Telnet connection in Winlink. Internet email to my Gmail address works fine. Is there something I need to whitelist in Winlink? I do have the Gmail address I use with D-Rats whitelisted in Winlink. When sending WL2K mail from D-Rats... WL2K Network Server = server.winlink.org Port = 8772 Password = my Winlink account password My Winlink SSID = have tried various In Email, Source Call Sign = my Call Sign Destination Call Sign = WL2K:KC3KFW@... Subject = //WL2k Test Body = D-Rats Test Thanks in advance! Carl KC3KFW
Started by Carl Keller @ · Most recent @
RS-MS1IA and D-Rats 4
Are there any functions in the RS-MS1IA app that work with D-Rats? Text? Picture Sharing? Others? Thanks! 73 John
Started by NO9X @ · Most recent @
Installation requirements for Python3 D-Rats 5
Hello all, I intend to put this in a Wiki: The Python2 D-Rats is pretty much frozen, no more updates, and it does not have bug fixes that are in the Python3 version. If you want to run Python3 D-Rats on Microsoft Windows, these are going to be the options: * Use a WSL and one of the Unix subsystems. Currently I am not setup to test in this environment. If you go this route, I think Ubuntu 22.04 would be the best option, followed by Ubuntu 22.04. Only Windows 10/11 64 bit have this option. * Use the MSYS2 environment to install Python3 and packages, and optionally a python virtualenv. This will be the only option for Windows 7, and if you want to run on Windows 7, you will need to download and setup MSYS2 *NOW* as they are dropping support for Windows 7 this year and may have already dropped it. Once they drop support for Windows 7, I do not know if they will keep the last version to support Windows 7 online for download. * Use a commercial Python. Even though some are free for personal use, I will not be installing or testing on a Commercial Python. If someone wants to do that support, feel free to contribute instructions on how to use. * Currently building a single Windows package for Simple installing is not practical. On Windows 7, I can not get the GTK 3 stuff to just build and install with the Python.org Python distribution. All articles I have found online about it so far do hot have a fix, but recommend using msys2 instead, and that is where the treads stop. I have determined that it would take too much of my time, to figure this out, and there are more fixes/updates I would like to get into D-Rats soon. If someone else can figure this out with out using a commercial Linux, feel free to contribute. * Use a Linux based system. Future distributions are going to require installing two packages. For winlink support, an optional lzhuf package, currently available in the files section for group members pre-packaged for Windows 7 and later and some Ubuntu and Debian distributions. For other platforms, you will need to download the source and build it, until someone contributes a pre-built package or tarball for that platform. The D-Rats will be packaged in the future in a generic PIP installable tarball at first. This is planned to be followed up with Ubuntu and Debian packages. It will no longer contain the lzhuf binary as it makes it too complex to package it in a way supported by Python. Generally if you have the Python3 and GTK-3 environment setup it will install with Pip. The Ubuntu/Debian packages will not need PIP to install. 73, -John
Started by John E. Malmberg @ · Most recent @
DRATS computer to radio data cable recommendations 3
We (SHARP, Sheriff's Amateur Radio Program) just finished up working a local airshow. We use D-RATS because of the high ambient noise with audio as a backup. We always have some kind of system failure, this time one of those were the data cables that go from the radio, Icom 2820 to the usb ports on the laptops. Our existing homebrew cables have a 2.5mm stereo phone plug on one end (RS-232), a nine pin DB9 connector, going to a DB9 RS-232 to a USB connector. The cable has had a history of bad intermittent connections which drove us nuts. We could buy new cables from RT Systems, believe they are about $25 each, but what other sources do you recommend? What we need is one with a 2.5mm stereo phone plug on one end and a USB connector on the other end. Last question, I know this has been asked before, what is a good ratflector to monitor over the internet, we know the default one no longer exists. I have looked at the database and don't have time to go fishing. One more thing, forgot to ask, getting too old - What is the best way to print messages in D-RATS? I've been copying and pasting into a plain text document, doing the editing if necessary, then sending to the printer. Is there another way to print? You would think there would be under FILE>PRINT. I can also copy and paste from the log file of course. Thanks for all that you do. Jim k6nra Sacramento County Sheriff's Amateur Radio Club
Started by James Holtzman @ · Most recent @
File Notifications #file-notice
The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /D-Rats/debian/bullseye/lzhuf_2022.10.08-1_amd64.deb /D-Rats/debian/bullseye/lzhuf_md5sum.txt By: John E. Malmberg <wb8tyw@...> The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /D-Rats/debian/buster/lzhuf_2022.10.08-1_amd64.deb /D-Rats/debian/buster/lzhuf_md5sum.txt By: John E. Malmberg <wb8tyw@...> The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /D-Rats/Ubuntu/bionic/lzhuf_2022.10.08-1_amd64.deb /D-Rats/Ubuntu/bionic/lzhuf_md5sum.txt By: John E. Malmberg <wb8tyw@...> The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /D-Rats/Ubuntu/focal/lzhuf_2022.10.08-1_amd64.deb /D-Rats/Ubuntu/focal/lzhuf_md5sum.txt By: John E. Malmberg <wb8tyw@...> Description: lzhuf for Ubuntu 20.04 (focal) The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /D-Rats/Ubuntu/jammy/lzhuf_2022.10.08-1_amd64.deb /D-Rats/Ubuntu/jammy/lzhuf_md5sum.txt By: John E. Malmberg <wb8tyw@...> Description: lzhuf for Ubuntu Jammy (22.04)
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3 files uploaded 3 #file-notice
The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /lzhuf/Windows/windows/lzhuf_md5.txt /lzhuf/Windows/windows/lzhuf_x64.msi /lzhuf/Windows/windows/lzhuf_x86.msi By: John E. Malmberg <wb8tyw@...>
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How to limit - restrict access to a ratflector
Hi All: I read somewhere a file can be placed at repeater working directory with allowed users. Is this right? Interested in control access to a local EMMCOM ratflector. If not possible right now then will suggest to be added as feature request. Will appreciate any suggestion! 73' Edfel KP4AJ
Started by Edfel Rivera @
ratflector 32
HI, I've trying to create a ratflector on a pi. I used the document written by N7BU that is on files on this group. I even got the ping to my gateway. I opened drats and created a localhost:9000 as per intructions to monitor the ratflector. BUt on how to setup the ratflector on the internet, it only says that I have to check "allow all incoming network connection" and hit the "on" button . Then when I run the Drats program on the pi, I see a terminal windows that pops up with some info. But When I do the same with Dratflector and hit "on" the other terminal windows that pops up shows no info at all. What makes me think that the ratflector program is not working. I also jumped to another computer to see If I was able to get to my ratflector so I went to radios and created it whit the ip address that I get from whatismyip.com with port 9000. So far no lucky running the ratflector on the internet, please if anyone has some other instructions on how to set it up I ll rally appreciate it. Respectfully Jose David NP3JD
Started by Jos¨¦ David Col¨®n Custodio @ · Most recent @
GMail SMTP no longer works, where to go? 13
Hi, l noticed GMail has cutoff unknown/unofficial? app access. I presume DRats is in that category. Does anyone have a nice free server they use successfully on DRats? Thank you. 73 Rory W4RJG
Started by Rory Griffin, W4RJG @ · Most recent @
Unable to run D-RATS after install 14
Just installed D-RATS on my laptop. I am seeing this error when I try to start the application. Running WIndows 10, 64 bit. Installed the 64 bit version. Any suggestions? Kyle/N5IMC
Started by Kyle Tupin N5IMC @ · Most recent @
Error after drats install 4
Just installed DRATS and tried to run but am getting this error. My system is Windows 10, 64 bit. Kyle/N5IMC
Started by Kyle Tupin N5IMC @ · Most recent @
DRATS over VARA?? 2
Any thoughts about adding an option to run DRATS over VARA?
Started by Troy - K4JDA @ · Most recent @
D-Rats Packet Mode Questions 10
Hi All: Just found this resource dated 2018. Apparently the test was successful. D RATS OVER PACKET Anyone able to replicate this? AGWPE requires a Windows machine for server side or could be supported from regular d-rats repeater (raspberry pi)? I saw it uses soundmodem which I have tested before for WinLink packet. Think this could be really, really positive. 73' Edfel KP4AJ
Started by Edfel Rivera @ · Most recent @
Using W2LK
Hi all, I'm still getting to grips with D-Rats and have investigated the WinLink settings. Having clicked on the W2LK option in the messaging section I got a message giving a temporary password and instructions on the URL to log on and set up other details. So, I did that, set a new password, which I've put into the D-Rats preferences and I've added more details, such as name and address, main email account etc. to the WinLink online settings, but I've never used WinLink in the past so am unsure what it will let me do from D-Rats now? Thanks - Dave (G0DJA) -- Dave (G0DJA) Bolsover, UK
Started by David Ackrill @
Security issues question in the Files Transfer system of D-Rats 5
Earlier tonight, John Davis, WB4QDX, gave an interview on Ham Radio Crash Course talking about D-Rats. During the talk, one of Josh Nass's people set up their own HRCC ratflector and a number of folks on the live stream connected to it. I sent a couple of small files to Josh's station with instructions on setting up for a first time user and getting other features set under Preferences. He objected to the fact that another station could send files to his shared folder because he was worried about someone possibly uploading malware to his computer as he is an engineer by trade. We were trying to figure out how a station could block the use of the file transfer feature if they wished, but there does not appear to be a way to do it. The most glaring problem on one machine that appeared to be a Raspberry Pi, was if you simply removed the "D-RATS Shared" folder from the Paths section, the program defaults to allowing a connecting station to access the computer's root directory. On a Windows machine, not having the D-RATS Shared folder able to be located caused a Debug Error to be issued and the program stopped functioning. The user was talking about leaving the station online but now is hesitant to do so because he does not want people loading things onto his computer without his knowledge or request. This probably would not be a problem when operating in an emergency situation when the infrastructure was down but could be an issue for the guys who are out there putting themselves out on YouTube trying to educate other hams and having their computers connected to the Internet where they could be accessed by hackers or someone who didn't like something they said on one of their shows. Any ideas on how to turn the File Transfer system off safely? Cordially, Glen-KG5CEN
Started by Glen Strecker @ · Most recent @
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