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Re: I need a scaler that can take a 240hz input and knock it down to 60

 

Haven¡¯t tested myself, but this Roland scaler looks promising. Supports a lot of high refresh rates.


Re: I need a scaler that can take a 240hz input and knock it down to 60

 

A Barco imagePRO-4K would take a 120Hz input. But when converting to 60Hz , it will just skip frames, no interpolation done.

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...high frame rate in general, 120Hz is recently used in the professional simulation world, since the image generators are capable of rendering 120 fps. It makes a big difference.
240Hz is possible with 3chip DLP, and might also be with direct view LED.


TS-1542 table top mount

 

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Hi,

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a client wants to change three TS-1542 wall mounted panels into table top panels.

According to my sales rep, there?s no specific table top kit available for the TS-1542.

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So i?m asking the group if anybody has 1-3 table top stands for the TS-1542 sitting around somewhere or if you know any nice alternative.

The TS-1542 is VESA compatible, but the the table top mounts i?ve found so far are more computer monitor display stands and design-wise not suitable for e.g. a living room.

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Cheers,

Thorsten


Re: Master 2022, no virtual option? WTF

 

No just "half way around the nation", how about half way around the world!


Re: I need a scaler that can take a 240hz input and knock it down to 60

 

Hmm check with rgb spectrum?

On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 7:31 AM K7XYM <public2@...> wrote:
Stupid question. If your output is 60, why have the source at 120 or 240 ? To do what your saying correctly is quite complex and lossy. Lets say something only shows up in one of those 240 frames. IE 1/240 of a second. Your conversion has to take 4 of the frames and make one out of it. So it has to keep the 4 and flatten them into one frame. So if something only happens once in that 4 frames, do you retain it ? If the object is moving for all 4 frames, do you avg that out ? The math quickly becomes mind boggling as you also have to keep track of more then just those 4 frames to predict motion avgs correctly. YEP you need a scaler, but, there will be pic degradation and the amount will be related to how much you spend.

The sad thing for gamers ( esports ) is they kick this frame rate way up, but, the monitor chip that actually drives the pixels on the LCD is refreshing at a WAY lesser rate. Even the fastest LCDs take time to turn on/off a pixel - its a physics issue with the LCD cell material. Only a CRT could do the 120 or 240 correctly. OLED could but the chip driver gets in the way again.

Just because a monitor is COMPATIBLE with high frame rates does NOT mean they flicker thier pixels at that rate. Hahaha..

And then of course is the eye. Anything above 90hz is too fast for the cells in the eye to respond to. Assuming you have a CRT or display that can really really display a frame of pixels, turn off, wait, turn on and display another.. Going fully away in-between 240 times a second..

Gamers are suffering from The Emperors New Clothes. Anything above 90 the eye cannot see.

Sorry... that was unhelpful.. and rambling.. But its a subject that bothers me.

I don't know of hardware that can do this. I even asked a post production guy I know.

You bring up a really good issue. How to handle a room full of gamers doing stupid shit. Like 8k, HDR, 240hz, 4:4:4 when the game was rendered at 2K, SDR, 4:2:0 at 30 fps. A device is need your right and its only going to get worse.

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Have a great day, and please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or if I can help you in any way.

Greg
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Re: I need a scaler that can take a 240hz input and knock it down to 60

 

Stupid question. If your output is 60, why have the source at 120 or 240 ? To do what your saying correctly is quite complex and lossy. Lets say something only shows up in one of those 240 frames. IE 1/240 of a second. Your conversion has to take 4 of the frames and make one out of it. So it has to keep the 4 and flatten them into one frame. So if something only happens once in that 4 frames, do you retain it ? If the object is moving for all 4 frames, do you avg that out ? The math quickly becomes mind boggling as you also have to keep track of more then just those 4 frames to predict motion avgs correctly. YEP you need a scaler, but, there will be pic degradation and the amount will be related to how much you spend.

The sad thing for gamers ( esports ) is they kick this frame rate way up, but, the monitor chip that actually drives the pixels on the LCD is refreshing at a WAY lesser rate. Even the fastest LCDs take time to turn on/off a pixel - its a physics issue with the LCD cell material. Only a CRT could do the 120 or 240 correctly. OLED could but the chip driver gets in the way again.

Just because a monitor is COMPATIBLE with high frame rates does NOT mean they flicker thier pixels at that rate. Hahaha..

And then of course is the eye. Anything above 90hz is too fast for the cells in the eye to respond to. Assuming you have a CRT or display that can really really display a frame of pixels, turn off, wait, turn on and display another.. Going fully away in-between 240 times a second..

Gamers are suffering from The Emperors New Clothes. Anything above 90 the eye cannot see.

Sorry... that was unhelpful.. and rambling.. But its a subject that bothers me.

I don't know of hardware that can do this. I even asked a post production guy I know.

You bring up a really good issue. How to handle a room full of gamers doing stupid shit. Like 8k, HDR, 240hz, 4:4:4 when the game was rendered at 2K, SDR, 4:2:0 at 30 fps. A device is need your right and its only going to get worse.


Master 2022, no virtual option? WTF

 

Yo, Crestron!, what is with Masters 2022 not having a virtual option at least? Not everyone has the luxury of extra money to blow to fly and stay in some place half way around the nation! ?Obviously it can be done virtually as well. Please don¡¯t feed me the ¡°we all want to be in the same room¡± line, it¡¯s NOT how ALL of us feel.


Re: FS: TSW-x60 panels

 

FYI, The Touch panels have sold - But I still have the Wall-Smart if interested...


Re: Tascam players

 

So I'm having the same issues as the OP getting commands to work on a Tascam BD-MP4K, and the protocol guide for the BD-MP1 was helpful...to an extent.

I've loaded the commands in the guide, and I can only get basic commands to work; stop, play, pause, power on/off, tray open/close.? I cannot get fast forward/rewind, next/previous, up/down/left/right to work, and I don't know why.

I'll admit, this part of programming is relatively new to me, so I'm sure there's a step I'm missing somewhere.


Re: Crestron Flex video output blanking

 

UC will turn off display based on Windows settings.?

Make sure you have the HDMI EDID pass throughs installed.?

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 12:24 AM Bambam_101 <wiredhometechnologies@...> wrote:
Just wondering if anyone has started coming across this?? Have been to multiple sites today with recent Flex installs with reports of the output to the display turning itself off and requiring a reboot.

Basically,? system works fine, both the TSW1070 and the display until it rests for a while and then it seems the HDMI output from the Flex Compute shuts itself off.? Resulting in the LCD display showing a "No HDMI cable connected" message. If i enter the Windows back end via the TSW, as soon as the windows desktop loads, the image returns.??

Have had 12 units today all doing the same thing.? Across 2 different clients.? Tried calling True Blue and got the usual response. "Never heard of that before.? Please send us the log files from all the units, schematics, serials, mac addresses etc etc etc.? ?
Hoping someone may have come across this recently and have some advice!?


Re: Crestron Flex video output blanking

 

Download and run the PowerShell MTR remediate script will fix that issue.?

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/microsoft-teams-rooms-application-does-not-start-after-you-update-to-version-4-4-41-0-or-later-387eff45-3905-d768-a5df-a0c716c9b757


I need a scaler that can take a 240hz input and knock it down to 60

 

Hey all, Just like the title says. I need to take a 240hz 1080p signal and drop it down to a 60hz 1080p signal over HDMI. This is for an eSports setup. I *may* be able to get away with 120hz on the input, but would like to keep it 240hz.

Thanks!


Re: Cisco Room Os 10

 

Yes, we have essentially removed the Cisco touch screen entirely.? We are using the Crestron screens exclusively with all the required functionality per customer needs.


IOS/android tablet tablet primer?

 

I have never tried using a apple or Android based tablet for a crestron? interface but would like to give it a shot.? Curious if there's a primer someplace to help get me started
Thanks

Chip


Re: Color picker widget snaps to zero

 

ah yes that was my issue, I forgot all about the feedback required to make it stick, thanks.


Re: Color picker widget snaps to zero

 

Do you have the analog inputs and outputs tied together in SIMPL? ?IIRC that is required for it to operate correctly.?


Color picker widget snaps to zero

 

The "hue saturation" and "lightness slider" of the color picker widget both snap to zero after about a second of selecting a color. This makes it difficult to get an actual color, because the ligthness slider by default is set to 0, so you woudl need to select a color, then the ligthness before it resets in order to get a value besides 0. I have max value set to 255. If I am fast enough I can grab an rgb value, but this doesnt seem right, or useable for a user. How can I change it so that the selected color stays at the current selection, rather than resetting back to 0?


Re: Crestron Home with Unifi Cameras

 

It maybe more secure and easier to connect via a vpn you setup in the UDM-Pro?


Re: Yamaha 3080 multiple connections

 

A couple Follow-up points for others' edification.
- The Yamaha modules that the above link references are the ones that I've used successfully for both RS232 and IP control. As mentioned the IP module has TCP/IP client signal In/Outs but they are not internally connected.

And Daniel, you're very welcome!!? I've received untold amounts of help from this Forum and the previous Yahoo iteration, so I'm happy to give back in some little way - Many on this forum are WAY MORE skilled than I, HaHa!!!

- Just to clarify regarding your mention of the need to still have IP-IDs. The terminology may just be mixed up
....You do not need any TCP client symbols in the Device Symbol/Ethernet slot section. All you need is the IP address and the Port (50000d) on the module. The connections are all handled within the module.
...Using the TCP client with the module still doubles the connections for each AVR, which you don't want or need.
...This may just be a semantic issue with your description, but I just wanted to be clear about it - I.e. you will not have any IP-IDs associated with the AVRs.

NOTE: That is the one downside with Direct Socket modules in that you do not have indication in the IPTABLE report as to the connectivity.
This module does have an "Is_Connected" output signal that you can monitor to verify that the unit is connected and 'talking'...


Re: Yamaha 3080 multiple connections

 

Hi HTH,

The module I'm using is this one:?
Chris just solved my problem, as you can see in my previous email. It was about me thinking that the module needed socket inputs and outputs to work. The module cares only about the IP and Port, as long as the program has an IP-ID device socket open on port 50000 it will work.

Thanks everyone, this one is solved.

Daniel

Em sex., 1 de abr. de 2022 ¨¤s 18:36, MSTC <kol.mstc@...> escreveu:

Hi Daniel;

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Looking at the trace below it appears the module is only trying to reconnect after the connection is broken remotely.? I don¡¯t see any try to force a reconnection, are you sure you are not confusing the connected feedback going high (1) with waiting for connection status (1d)?

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It appears the module may actually be working correctly and there is an external reason the connection keeps getting broken, either something in the network or a problem with the AVR.? It does seem a bit unlikely to be 3 bad AVRs, but ?I have seen this sort of thing happen when there is an IP address conflict with something (not even AV related) on the network.? You might try scanning the network to see if there is a conflict, or changing the address of one of the AVRs as a test.

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Where did you get the module? I don¡¯t see it in CresDB or on application market or the files section here.

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As a last resort, if you have anything co-located with the AVR that is controlled by IR you could use IR for the AVR pretty easily.

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HTH

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Daniel Arola <daniel.arola@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 8:55 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [crestron] Yamaha 3080 multiple connections

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Hello,

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I'm working on a residence with 3 yamaha receivers, RX V85, RX A2080 and RX 3080. They are all using Yamaha 3010 IP v1.2 to connect and they all work fine with the xpanel app.

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The problem is that all of them area trying to force a reconnection even if the module is already connected, leading to dozens of processes running showing up in toolbox.

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As you can see below, the module has an IP connection via socket but tries again to reconnect.?

Maybe because the residence has 3 of them?

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Anyone has this issue? Any tips on fixing this?

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Thanks,

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Daniel Arola

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Heres my toolbox output:

00:00:02.719 ? ?1d ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_status}}_Gourmet
00:00:02.719 ? ?Waiting For Connection ? ?//{{Connection_Status_Text}}_Gourmet
00:00:02.719 ? ?4d ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_status}}_Mainroom
00:00:02.719 ? ?Connection Broken Remotely ? ?//{{Connection_Status_Text}}_Mainroom
00:00:02.719 ? ?0 ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_Connect-F}}_Mainroom
00:00:02.734 ? ?1d ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_status}}_SuiteMaster
00:00:02.734 ? ?Waiting For Connection ? ?//{{Connection_Status_Text}}_SuiteMaster
00:00:02.734 ? ?2d ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_status}}_Gourmet
00:00:02.734 ? ?Connected ? ?//{{Connection_Status_Text}}_Gourmet
00:00:02.734 ? ?1 ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_Connect-F}}_Gourmet
00:00:02.750 ? ?2d ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_status}}_SuiteMaster
00:00:02.750 ? ?Connected ? ?//{{Connection_Status_Text}}_SuiteMaster
00:00:02.766 ? ?1 ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_Connect-F}}_SuiteMaster
00:00:02.766 ? ?1d ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_status}}_Mainroom
00:00:02.766 ? ?Waiting For Connection ? ?//{{Connection_Status_Text}}_Mainroom
00:00:02.781 ? ?2d ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_status}}_Mainroom
00:00:02.781 ? ?Connected ? ?//{{Connection_Status_Text}}_Mainroom
00:00:02.781 ? ?1 ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_Connect-F}}_Mainroom
00:00:02.891 ? ?4d ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_status}}_SuiteMaster
00:00:02.891 ? ?Connection Broken Remotely ? ?//{{Connection_Status_Text}}_SuiteMaster
00:00:02.891 ? ?4d ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_status}}_Gourmet
00:00:02.891 ? ?Connection Broken Remotely ? ?//{{Connection_Status_Text}}_Gourmet
00:00:02.891 ? ?0 ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_Connect-F}}_Gourmet
00:00:02.906 ? ?0 ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_Connect-F}}_SuiteMaster
00:00:02.906 ? ?4d ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_status}}_Mainroom
00:00:02.906 ? ?Connection Broken Remotely ? ?//{{Connection_Status_Text}}_Mainroom
00:00:02.906 ? ?0 ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_Connect-F}}_Mainroom
00:00:02.922 ? ?1d ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_status}}_Gourmet
00:00:02.922 ? ?Waiting For Connection ? ?//{{Connection_Status_Text}}_Gourmet
00:00:02.937 ? ?2d ? ?{{TCP/IP_Client_>>_status}}_Gourmet
00:00:02.937 ? ?Connected ? ?//{{Connection_Status_Text}}_Gourmet