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Re: Using a C2N-IIF as a doorbell - problem with audio

 

Yes. There is a delay. I just did this with AAE's instead of bipad but I
had to put 2 seconds of dead air at the beginning of my mp3. I played mine
off of an mc3.

Sent from my iBerryRex. RAWR

On Dec 23, 2012, at 5:48 PM, mrtgilberty <mrtgilbert@...> wrote:



I'm using a C2N-IIF loaded with a WAV file to drive the local doorbell
speaker of the C2N-IIF as well as feeding the speaker audio from the
C2N-IIF back into the house into a BIPAD.

On my test bench this works fine, running into two amps to generate the
audio, so the audio generates fine.

However when installed at the customer site, the local doorbell (a
Holovision door entry system) plays the audio fine, however the audio going
through the BIPAD doesn't work and makes a very quiet muffled 'odd
sounding' noise.

The audio out from the C2N-IIF (via the Speaker outputs) - I have the SPK
+/- wires going into the local speaker as well as feeding into a Direct
Injection box to take the speaker level down to line level. This then feeds
into one of the RCA stereo inputs of the BIPAD and into a AMPX.

I've adjusted the impedence of the Direct Injection box from full to none
however I can't seem to get anything to work.

The levels of the AMPX are set to a sensible level and the rooms in
question are 'activated' when the audio is playing after the doorbell
button is pressed. The doorbell sound then plays on the local door-station
speaker but not over the speakers in the house (ie via the BIPAD / AMP).

Could there be a delay in the AMPX turning on each zone, or is there some
sort of incompatibility of using a WAV file to play through the BIPAD and
AMPX? (I'm beginning to clutch at straws as to what could be wrong!)

Thanks

Tom




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Using a C2N-IIF as a doorbell - problem with audio

mrtgilberty
 

I'm using a C2N-IIF loaded with a WAV file to drive the local doorbell speaker of the C2N-IIF as well as feeding the speaker audio from the C2N-IIF back into the house into a BIPAD.

On my test bench this works fine, running into two amps to generate the audio, so the audio generates fine.

However when installed at the customer site, the local doorbell (a Holovision door entry system) plays the audio fine, however the audio going through the BIPAD doesn't work and makes a very quiet muffled 'odd sounding' noise.

The audio out from the C2N-IIF (via the Speaker outputs) - I have the SPK +/- wires going into the local speaker as well as feeding into a Direct Injection box to take the speaker level down to line level. This then feeds into one of the RCA stereo inputs of the BIPAD and into a AMPX.

I've adjusted the impedence of the Direct Injection box from full to none however I can't seem to get anything to work.

The levels of the AMPX are set to a sensible level and the rooms in question are 'activated' when the audio is playing after the doorbell button is pressed. The doorbell sound then plays on the local door-station speaker but not over the speakers in the house (ie via the BIPAD / AMP).

Could there be a delay in the AMPX turning on each zone, or is there some sort of incompatibility of using a WAV file to play through the BIPAD and AMPX? (I'm beginning to clutch at straws as to what could be wrong!)

Thanks

Tom


MTX-3 Rendering performance

 

Page rendering performance seems to be lacking, so I am looking at ways to make page flips faster.

To get this out of the way...I never use page transitions so that is not the problem.

I've noticed that graphics unfortunately seem to be the fastest way the MTX-3 can display a button. I can work with that if that is the best option. It's more work, but they look great visually and display almost instantly.

Buttons with aliased text created in VTPro render more slowly but look crappy because they are obviously ...aliased...ha.

Buttons with Anti-aliased text look good, but for me are unusable because they display so slowly. It's like watching text come up on a 300 baud modem connection to a BBS.

Did I get the above correct or is there something I am missing that will allow me use MTX-3 rendered text, look good and render quickly?

Thank you!


MTX-3 VTPro System Bar Background

 

Howdy,

1st, I have only been a member for 2 weeks or so and have learned a ton on this site, so thanks mods and members. Much Appreciated.

I am working on an MTX-3 and have a question about the system bar in VTPro. How do you make the background transparent? It seems like and should be an easy thing to do. Change the background color in the Properties of the System Bar right? If I do that, the background is black. If I change that setting from transparent to opaque and choose a color, the color appears as expected. If I change it back to transparent, it changes to black. WTF? Latest Firmware and VTPro as of today.

Thank you!


Re: Ip table issue eslave a pro2 to a cp3

 

Thanks, I figured it was an easy fix.

--- In Crestron@..., "RobK" <fooguy89@...> wrote:

2 series as a slave are CIP. They're not Gateway. As such you have to put the IP Entry in the IP config tab in SIMPL before you compile it if you expect to upload it w/the program, or you can do it via toolbox like you did.

No magic, it's expected behavior, and they should know that.



--- In Crestron@..., "Kris" <kris.k@> wrote:

When I compile and load the program to the cp3 the ip table does not include the eslaved pro2. If I manually enter the ip table entry it works fine, however the pro2 shows up as CIP instead of gateway. Anyone run into this? TB support said they would "tap some shoulders" and get back to me.


Re: My first Android project

 

Thank you Tony Golden! You gave me the clue I needed, that the Mobile pro symbol was under Ethernet touch panels. I looked all over simpl and just could not find it. Once I used that symbol everything worked perfect!

Thanks again,
GG

--- In Crestron@..., "Tony Golden" <mrgolden@...> wrote:

In programming, Android devices are setup exactly like iOS devices. In Simpl,
use the Crestron Mobile touchpanel symbol. In VtPro, you can either use Mobile,
Mobile Pro, or "for Phones" for iPhones or Android phones - the latter allows
custom resolutions to accommodate the various Android screen sizes. Similarly
for tablets, you can use Mobile G, Mobile Pro G, or "for Tablets" - all will
work. But again, only the "for Phones" and "for Tablets" panel types allow
resolutions other than iPhone or iPad standard.


--- On Sunday, December 23, 2012 at 11:03 AM, geekygizmo wrote:

After looking through simpl and vtpro, I can't seem to find the appropriate
symbols and panel type. In simpl I find a number of ipad/ipd/iphone
Ethernet devices but no "Mobile pro" device or a reference to Android. In
VTpro I can save as several typesof mobile pro projects but they all say
iphone/ipad in the descriptions, again I can't find any reference to
Android. My Crestron database is dated 5/2012 (31.00.004.00) and device
database is 9/2012 (45.00.019.00). I figure they are new enough since the
Android app came out in late 2011??

I find references on this group for using the ipad symbol for android too
but can not confirm that is correct and I like many others just get an
"invalid port" error when I try using any of the above combinations.

Could someone clarify exactly what is needed to setup an Android app,
exactly which symbols and panel type to select?

Thanks for any help in advance,
GG


Re: Good Ol' Sharp (PITA)

 

You are welcome to alter the one that I posted, quite a while back, for the
LC-65xxxx



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of jcdigitalmethod
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 4:38 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Good Ol' Sharp (PITA)





Note - Some Sharp displays require you to send "RSPW1 &#92;r" after the display
has been powered on to enable serial commands to work while off or in
"standby"

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"eagrubbs" <eagrubbs@...> wrote:

I hate to ask, but does anyone have a simpl only module they are willing
to share that takes into account the "OK" or "ERR" fb that the displays
provide before you give fb from the module? I just don't have the time right
now to invest in creating my own.


Re: Good Ol' Sharp (PITA)

 

RSPW1[SPACE][SPACE][SPACE]&#92;r - format dictates 3 spaces "syntax"

On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Eric Walters <sentry07@...> wrote:

**


If you're controlling them over ethernet, you need to send "RSPW2 &#92;r"


On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 2:38 PM, jcdigitalmethod <
j.j.cunningham@...
wrote:
Note - Some Sharp displays require you to send "RSPW1 &#92;r" after the
display has been powered on to enable serial commands to work while off
or
in "standby"

--- In Crestron@..., "eagrubbs" <eagrubbs@...> wrote:

I hate to ask, but does anyone have a simpl only module they are
willing
to share that takes into account the "OK" or "ERR" fb that the displays
provide before you give fb from the module? I just don't have the time
right now to invest in creating my own.



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A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
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Re: Good Ol' Sharp (PITA)

 

If you're controlling them over ethernet, you need to send "RSPW2 &#92;r"

On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 2:38 PM, jcdigitalmethod <j.j.cunningham@...
wrote:
Note - Some Sharp displays require you to send "RSPW1 &#92;r" after the
display has been powered on to enable serial commands to work while off or
in "standby"

--- In Crestron@..., "eagrubbs" <eagrubbs@...> wrote:

I hate to ask, but does anyone have a simpl only module they are willing
to share that takes into account the "OK" or "ERR" fb that the displays
provide before you give fb from the module? I just don't have the time
right now to invest in creating my own.



------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links




Re: My first Android project

 

That's good to know. Thanks Tony. I wish we had a forum where we could make
this post "sticky". I've always wondered the differences but they all
seemed to work so I just pick the shortest one.

Nick

Sent from my iBerryRex. RAWR

On Dec 23, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Tony Golden <mrgolden@...> wrote:



In programming, Android devices are setup exactly like iOS devices. In
Simpl,
use the Crestron Mobile touchpanel symbol. In VtPro, you can either use
Mobile,
Mobile Pro, or "for Phones" for iPhones or Android phones - the latter
allows
custom resolutions to accommodate the various Android screen sizes.
Similarly
for tablets, you can use Mobile G, Mobile Pro G, or "for Tablets" - all will
work. But again, only the "for Phones" and "for Tablets" panel types allow
resolutions other than iPhone or iPad standard.

--- On Sunday, December 23, 2012 at 11:03 AM, geekygizmo wrote:

After looking through simpl and vtpro, I can't seem to find the
appropriate
symbols and panel type. In simpl I find a number of ipad/ipd/iphone
Ethernet devices but no "Mobile pro" device or a reference to Android. In
VTpro I can save as several typesof mobile pro projects but they all say
iphone/ipad in the descriptions, again I can't find any reference to
Android. My Crestron database is dated 5/2012 (31.00.004.00) and device
database is 9/2012 (45.00.019.00). I figure they are new enough since the
Android app came out in late 2011??

I find references on this group for using the ipad symbol for android too
but can not confirm that is correct and I like many others just get an
"invalid port" error when I try using any of the above combinations.

Could someone clarify exactly what is needed to setup an Android app,
exactly which symbols and panel type to select?

Thanks for any help in advance,
GG



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: My first Android project

 

In programming, Android devices are setup exactly like iOS devices. In Simpl,
use the Crestron Mobile touchpanel symbol. In VtPro, you can either use Mobile,
Mobile Pro, or "for Phones" for iPhones or Android phones - the latter allows
custom resolutions to accommodate the various Android screen sizes. Similarly
for tablets, you can use Mobile G, Mobile Pro G, or "for Tablets" - all will
work. But again, only the "for Phones" and "for Tablets" panel types allow
resolutions other than iPhone or iPad standard.

--- On Sunday, December 23, 2012 at 11:03 AM, geekygizmo wrote:

After looking through simpl and vtpro, I can't seem to find the appropriate
symbols and panel type. In simpl I find a number of ipad/ipd/iphone
Ethernet devices but no "Mobile pro" device or a reference to Android. In
VTpro I can save as several typesof mobile pro projects but they all say
iphone/ipad in the descriptions, again I can't find any reference to
Android. My Crestron database is dated 5/2012 (31.00.004.00) and device
database is 9/2012 (45.00.019.00). I figure they are new enough since the
Android app came out in late 2011??

I find references on this group for using the ipad symbol for android too
but can not confirm that is correct and I like many others just get an
"invalid port" error when I try using any of the above combinations.

Could someone clarify exactly what is needed to setup an Android app,
exactly which symbols and panel type to select?

Thanks for any help in advance,
GG


Re: Ip table issue eslave a pro2 to a cp3

 

2 series as a slave are CIP. They're not Gateway. As such you have to put the IP Entry in the IP config tab in SIMPL before you compile it if you expect to upload it w/the program, or you can do it via toolbox like you did.

No magic, it's expected behavior, and they should know that.

--- In Crestron@..., "Kris" <kris.k@...> wrote:

When I compile and load the program to the cp3 the ip table does not include the eslaved pro2. If I manually enter the ip table entry it works fine, however the pro2 shows up as CIP instead of gateway. Anyone run into this? TB support said they would "tap some shoulders" and get back to me.


Ip table issue eslave a pro2 to a cp3

 

When I compile and load the program to the cp3 the ip table does not include the eslaved pro2. If I manually enter the ip table entry it works fine, however the pro2 shows up as CIP instead of gateway. Anyone run into this? TB support said they would "tap some shoulders" and get back to me.


Re: Pickup a VIDMUX but I think something is seriously wrong......help

 

I've been away from Creston for a while now after I bought the new house.....I'm looking at resurrecting my Vidmux for something that crossed my mind.....i can't seem to find the PDF for it anymore in documents.....can someone re-upload it for me? Google has been fruitless.

thanks!

--- In Crestron@..., "kittmaster" <chris@...> wrote:

Mike

I sent a response to your email this morning. Sometimes my domain
gets nailed by spam filters for some unknown reason.

Let me know if you got what I inquired.

thanks again

Chris

--- In Crestron@..., "soundmanmiked" <soundmanmike@>
wrote:

Chris,

The VIDMUX was a modular built switcher. If a lot of audio
switching
was needed then more levels of audio were installed and the same
goes
the other way around for video switching. I have used VIDMUXs that
were full of cards. So therefore there are all kinds combinations
available. Each level could be plugged in as needed. If you need
any parts (i.e. video, audio or network boards) for your VIDMUX,
just
email me. I have all kinds of parts for them including 1/4 inch
cables that plug into the audio boards. They are easy to install.

Mike

--- In Crestron@..., "kittmaster" <chris@> wrote:

I picked up a vidmux off the flea is good condition.

The problem is all of the audio plugs are plugged up. There is no
place to put the audio!

It has two rows of BNCs on the bottom L1 and L2 A-H and outputs 1-
4
for each bank. But there are 48 audio "holes" with "plugs for the
1/
4 jacks. The PDF text and images show all of this, the pdf does
defines "versions of it"

I've dismantled the piece to get a handle on why, all four of the
audio boards are not present.

I can put up a screenshot if needed.

The PDF shows the silkscreen on the left side of the ports, but
this
vidmux only has L1 and L2 for the video only........I'm beyond
pissed
at this point, only because of ignorance on my part to know what I
should be looking for before I bought it.

I have a call into crestron but that doesn't look good since he
stated "it was before his time there"........errr

Anyone have any heads up on this cluster....?

Thanks

Chris


My first Android project

 

After looking through simpl and vtpro, I can't seem to find the appropriate symbols and panel type. In simpl I find a number of ipad/ipd/iphone Ethernet devices but no "Mobile pro" device or a reference to Android. In VTpro I can save as several typesof mobile pro projects but they all say iphone/ipad in the descriptions, again I can't find any reference to Android. My Crestron database is dated 5/2012 (31.00.004.00) and device database is 9/2012 (45.00.019.00). I figure they are new enough since the Android app came out in late 2011??

I find references on this group for using the ipad symbol for android too but can not confirm that is correct and I like many others just get an "invalid port" error when I try using any of the above combinations.

Could someone clarify exactly what is needed to setup an Android app, exactly which symbols and panel type to select?

Thanks for any help in advance,
GG


Re: Crestron Integration with Microsoft Kinect

 

Thanks for all the suggestions and advice. I have completed the Kinect with Crestron integration and tested with multiple gestures.

--- In Crestron@..., "ajish_raju" <ajish.raju@...> wrote:

The requirement is for a video wall presets calling based on 25 gestures to recall 25 presets. There is already kinect sdk and i have to develop c# code to send the gesture feedback to the controller and i am good to go. I will update you on the project once its complete.

--- In Crestron@..., "eagrubbs" <eagrubbs@> wrote:

As soon as our software guys get the pc program up and going I will be adding gesturing to the demo system here for a kinect. If I don't kill the dvphd with a hammer before that happens. Lol.

--- In Crestron@..., "ajish_raju" <ajish.raju@> wrote:

We recently got a project where we need to develop gestures to control equipments using Kinect and Crestron. Has anyone developed any sdk in .net for this purpose.

I saw this link which gives information that Kinect is already integrated with Crestron.

Any inputs?

Regards
Ajish


Re: DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)

 

Well, just pulsing hdcp off on the inputs works just fine for the mac inputs.

--- In Crestron@..., "crestronfreak55" <crestronfreak55@...> wrote:

Hi Matt,

I don't know how to do that on the Mac side, but there is a solution on the DM side: Call TB and ask for answer ID 5133 (this ID hat Tech Sup level, cannot be accessed directly). You can force the DM inputs to non HDCP mode.

Best regards

Crestronfreak

--- In Crestron@..., "matt_rasmussen_2000" <mjrtoo@> wrote:
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.

Thanks for looking. :)


Unbricking a PTX3 (and probably a TPMC-3X ?) Anyone ?

 

We're seeing a new pandemic manifestation : PTX3 remotes breaking apart (literally or functionally).

The side buttons are flawed and being replaced. But I have the second PTX3 stuck on the boot screen in my carry-on bag since friday evening. The first one was sent back to Crestron and they "flashed" it.

Is there a way to do that at home that anyone of you may know of ?

--
Marc-Etienne HUNEAU Dark Side of the Room (DSR)
+33 (0)6 615 516 90


Re: DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)

Chip
 

Lol. Considering that, maybe save this for private email next time? :)

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., "crestronfreak55" <crestronfreak55@...> wrote:

(this ID hat Tech Sup level, cannot be accessed directly).


Re: DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)

 

Hi Matt,

I don't know how to do that on the Mac side, but there is a solution on the DM side: Call TB and ask for answer ID 5133 (this ID hat Tech Sup level, cannot be accessed directly). You can force the DM inputs to non HDCP mode.

Best regards

Crestronfreak

--- In Crestron@..., "matt_rasmussen_2000" <mjrtoo@...> wrote:
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.

Thanks for looking. :)