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Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron
Nope, it isn't just you. I¡¯ve been sitting at home fiddling with it all afternoon. This is NOT the standard reset the processor and it all comes back. Something definitely is ¡®up¡¯. I have Playbar who¡¯s volume works fine, a Beam with no volume control and a Connect on S2 with what seems to be only one way coms...transport controls seem to work but no cover art, no station icons...of course dozens will have to make noise until Crestron even acknowledges that their might be an issue. It happened sometime yesterday as we were onsite fiddling with a DMPS and the Sonos connected to it wouldn¡¯t connect to save my life.
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Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron
Dave is correct. This is a known issue and has been for several years. It has to do with Windows handles. The way it was explained to me by ATSG is that eventually the processor runs out of handles to distribute and rebooting is the only way to solve it. It was something I lost interest in, so I'm sorry I cant be more specific, but maybe some of the Windows gurus could help explain it better.? On Thu, Oct 1, 2020, 4:22 PM ckangis <chris@...> wrote: I haven't heard of issues recently as you describe. Overall most of our systems are fairly stable for months then needing a proc reboot. |
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Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron
I haven't heard of issues recently as you describe. Overall most of our systems are fairly stable for months then needing a proc reboot.
We're going to a 2nd slot model for the Sonos modules so that they can be rebooted daily to see if we can mitigate the reboot every few months... ** This isn't your issue but this has reared its head on a few projects... If the client has more than 30 favorites (This is in the Sonos API), this will lead to continuous communication problems every few hours to a few days.? The only fix is to reduce the favorites to 30 or less The Crestron interface will display the extra favorites and allow then to be selected/played, but eventually they will crash the Comm's I had two sites, 45 and 56 favorites respectively (Yes, the clients don't understand the concept of favorites!!) that tortured me before we figured this out!! ** |
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Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron
Interesting. This isn¡¯t an issue that I¡¯ve seen before and have a few Crestron + Sonos systems out there.?
Would really like to hear if people do have S1 & S2 systems still working fully! |
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Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYes, there is an issue between Crestron and Sonos, but it has nothing to do with the S2 or S1.? Basically, over time, the system errors out and looses connection.? To get it back, the processor will need to be rebooted.? I have many many systems out there and it seems like the larger the system the quicker it has issues.? I have some small ones that seem to work just fine, even with the errors.? I have larger ones (25-30 devices) that seem to only last a few hours before needing the processor rebooted.? I have one system 24 devices that I had to put in programming to reboot it at midnight and at 5:00 in the afternoon just to keep it from going offline.? The main error that I see is ? Error: splusmanagerapp.exe # 2020-09-29 03:36:55? # [WebSocket]<00000000> WebSocketClientConnect: Error: ipaddress lookup by hostname failed ? The system will start getting these and after some time, eventually disconnect from the Sonos. ? Not sure this will help you, but I thought I would send it for informational purposes. ? DAVE ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of charliehibbins
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 12:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [crestron] Issues with Sonos & Crestron ? Have had 3 projects today suddenly lose the ablity for the Crestron to control the volume of Sonos equipment using the official module v.3.1.0. |
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Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron
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using S2 firmware.,there is a problem? then it is not possible to control it with the crestron version S2 best regards Francisco R. Hern¨¢ndez H. Integration Systems Engineer Sales c:?+52 (04455) 6047.3289 El jue., 1 oct. 2020 a las 13:14, <zac.sparrow@...> escribi¨®: No issues here but using S1 firmware.? |
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Issues with Sonos & Crestron
Have had 3 projects today suddenly lose the ablity for the Crestron to control the volume of Sonos equipment using the official module v.3.1.0.
I know there was a large update to S2 a few days ago which im assuming these projects have auto updated to. Can anybody confirm if they've got issues or if their systems are all good? Thanks |
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Re: Hdmi CEC injection
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWe?re doing high end cinemas. With a 200¡° screen with 4K@60 4:2:2 you?ll see the difference. For these use cases we always do local attached sources, wouldn?t use NVX for that. The Crestron ?pixel perfect¡° is fine for Powerpoint presentations, not for movie content. ? ? For everything around 85¡° and below, NVX should be fine. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Lincoln King-Cliby ? FWIW even the 10G solutions do some compression, just at 10G you can to 4K in ¡°mathematically lossless¡± vs ¡°visually lossless¡± ? That said, at least for the use cases I¡¯ve seen NVX applied I haven¡¯t seen anything objectionable. Most of the content outside of medical/government/aerospace has already been compressed and decompressed enough times that one more squash can¡¯t really do that much to it. ? There are certainly specific cases (fine detail, sustained rapid changes, etc.) where visually lossless falls apart and mathematically lossless is the way to go ¨C but those usually aren¡¯t involving discussions of CEC ;) -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thorsten K?hler
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [crestron] Hdmi CEC injection ? It does lossy compression, otherwise it wouldn?t be possible to get it over a 1GB link. At least for video content. ? AFAIR it uses MPEG2000. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Geoffrey Reynolds ? That's good to hear, but the rest of the DM line still doesn't support it, unfortunately.? This makes it difficult to do things like share an AppleTV 4K with multiple rooms if 1 or more has a Dolby Vision capable display. ? I don't have any experience with the NVX line, and am unlikely to use it in my system.? I've wondered what the NVX solutions do to video quality - whether it truly maintains original quality or uses some form of (even slightly) lossy compression. ? Thanks, Geoff ? On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM Rob <rob@...> wrote:
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Re: Hdmi CEC injection
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýFWIW even the 10G solutions do some compression, just at 10G you can to 4K in ¡°mathematically lossless¡± vs ¡°visually lossless¡± ? That said, at least for the use cases I¡¯ve seen NVX applied I haven¡¯t seen anything objectionable. Most of the content outside of medical/government/aerospace has already been compressed and decompressed enough times that one more squash can¡¯t really do that much to it. ? There are certainly specific cases (fine detail, sustained rapid changes, etc.) where visually lossless falls apart and mathematically lossless is the way to go ¨C but those usually aren¡¯t involving discussions of CEC ;) -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Thorsten K?hler
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [crestron] Hdmi CEC injection ? It does lossy compression, otherwise it wouldn?t be possible to get it over a 1GB link. At least for video content. ? AFAIR it uses MPEG2000. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? ? Von:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
Im Auftrag von Geoffrey Reynolds ? That's good to hear, but the rest of the DM line still doesn't support it, unfortunately.? This makes it difficult to do things like share an AppleTV 4K with multiple rooms if 1 or more has a Dolby Vision capable display. ? I don't have any experience with the NVX line, and am unlikely to use it in my system.? I've wondered what the NVX solutions do to video quality - whether it truly maintains original quality or uses some form of (even slightly) lossy compression. ? Thanks, Geoff ? On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM Rob <rob@...> wrote:
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Re: Hdmi CEC injection
I had a hunch it had to use some sort of lossy compression. Of course, the HDBase-T technology that DM uses doesn't have unlimited bandwidth either.? From what I've read it's limited to 10Gbps or 16Gbps, depending on which generation of the chipset is being used.? It sounds like 16Gbps may allow for uncompressed 4K60 4:4:4 because it doesn't have the 20% overhead that HDMI itself has, but earlier versions of HDBase-T need to use a form of lossy compression to handle 18Gbps signals. Thanks, Geoff On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 1:05 PM Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...> wrote:
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Re: Hdmi CEC injection
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIt does lossy compression, otherwise it wouldn?t be possible to get it over a 1GB link. At least for video content. ? AFAIR it uses MPEG2000. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Geoffrey Reynolds ? That's good to hear, but the rest of the DM line still doesn't support it, unfortunately.? This makes it difficult to do things like share an AppleTV 4K with multiple rooms if 1 or more has a Dolby Vision capable display. ? I don't have any experience with the NVX line, and am unlikely to use it in my system.? I've wondered what the NVX solutions do to video quality - whether it truly maintains original quality or uses some form of (even slightly) lossy compression. ? Thanks, Geoff ? On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM Rob <rob@...> wrote:
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Re: Long_Integer to Integer assignment warning
So I've been running across this NOTICE quite a bit recently and wasn't able to quite track down where this NOTICE was coming from.? It doesn't exactly give you an idea of which module and in programs with tons of modules, its a little difficult.? I finally got a little time to try and track this puppy down and low and behold it is coming from this module:
Media Server Object Router v4.0 (cm) This has been a new one since some sort of update Im sure, but given which databases we can use and which we can't update to yet, has anyone run across this and/or a fix for this?? I wasn't sure if the newer databases have a newer version for this, but I can't exactly update to those databases as it breaks more things than is worth currently. -- Ryan Baldwin CEO | XS Design Studios rbaldwin@... 760.712.2240 |
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