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Re: DMPS freezing in debugger?!

 

I work mostly with DMPS-300's and experience it multiple times a day, even more frustrating over VPN when it locks up.
I don't sync all states any more, just the ones i require.

--- In Crestron@..., "matthew.dean@..." <matthew.dean@...> wrote:

Hi guys

These days I seem to be having problems with debugger when using with a DMPS300 - usually I have to click to NOT synchronise all signal states when I fire it up, otherwise the DMPS300 will sometimes freeze (mainly after it has gone through all of its OOTB stuff) needing a hw-reset. But sometimes also I will get a freeze when just using debugger in the normal way, zapping around various signals etc.

I've got latest toolbox and DMPS300 firmware, but it is still happening and incredibly frustrating when the DMPS is in a rack miles away from the room. There is nothing particularly weird in the program.

Anyone else seen this?!



Cheers


Re: embedded video

Heath Volmer
 

I would *almost* guarantee that the DVR won't put out a compatible stream. Plugging the DVR into a streamer like the NVS will get you on to the next TSW task.


On Jun 13, 2013, at 7:05 PM, cochoa2716@... wrote:

using core 3 (smart graphics), there is a feature that supports embedded video. I checked and the panel supports it, but how do I use this feature. I have a client who is using a DVR that is on the Network. For some reason though I am assuming that you would need another piece. It asks for ther URL serial join.

Is there a way to add this to the panel without an extra piece (NVS200)??

or is this piece required to use that feature?

Thanks,

Chris



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Re: RTI and Crestron

 

Good to know - and I have encountered this problem, although it helps if you read how the CNRFGWA placement is supposed to be. I am curious - when this is applied to buttons (like vol, mute toggle, etc.) where multiple sends are undesirable, what happens? Does a toggle toggle multiple times? Vol changes multiple steps?

--- In Crestron@..., "Aaron" <aaron@...> wrote:

I've always experienced what I assumed was crappy RF when using RTI remotes with Crestron. However, I just discovered the fix. In Integration Designer, if you go into "Properties" for any button with a command assigned, there's a setting for "minimum repeats" under the "Infrared" tab (which I've always ignored because I assumed it only applied to IR drivers). Click the "min repeats" up to 3 or 4 and the RF reception will suddenly be awesome! It's like night and day! Just thought I'd share in case anyone was having the same issue.


embedded video

 

using core 3 (smart graphics), there is a feature that supports embedded video. I checked and the panel supports it, but how do I use this feature. I have a client who is using a DVR that is on the Network. For some reason though I am assuming that you would need another piece. It asks for ther URL serial join.

Is there a way to add this to the panel without an extra piece (NVS200)??

or is this piece required to use that feature?

Thanks,

Chris


Re: Purchasing Sandbox equipment

 

Damn good question. TSW750/1050 because it would be beneficial to get familiar with. A 3-series processor. The rest is really questionable because it depends on what you program, resi/commercial/government. Not a captureHD, waste of money and it is easy to figure out.
A DM switcher and a Tx/Rx combo. That blows the budget right there though. Oh, well happy spending.

--- In Crestron@..., Martin Kupferman <martin@...> wrote:

I would buy a DMPS, RMC-Scaler and a TSW-750, maybe a capture-hd too?

From: scotterroy <scott.dejong@...>
Reply-To: <Crestron@...>
Date: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:16 PM
To: <Crestron@...>
Subject: [Crestron] Purchasing Sandbox equipment






I have been given the OK to put together a list of equipment that I would
like to have as a sandbox to play around with. We are just starting to
switch some of our classrooms to Digital. My question is this... If you
were given a budget of around 10k - 12k, what would you buy for your
playground?









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Re: Sharp TV - Ethernet Control

 

Interesting! But a connection would need to be established before being able to send the commands.
I have a TCP/IP client with a 1 on the connect input.
So, when the Sharp display sends its "username:" & "password:" feedback, then I will transmit two carriage returns in response. That should then enable the connection which in turn will allow me to send my commands. Will be trying this tomorrow, holding thumbs it works.

--- In Crestron@..., Richard Cronk <rcronk@...> wrote:

I didn't even wair for the strings all I did was send the two carriage
returns before I sent the actual command
On 2013-06-01 6:52 PM, "avsystemdesign" <avsystemdesign@...> wrote:

**


Thank you Richard and Chip!

So I should have an SIO with the expected query strings from the Sharp
display, example "username:" on line 1 & "password:" on line 2. When the
SIO see's that, it then transmits "&#92;x0D" on both occasions?
This will then allow connection and I should be able to shoot commands at
the display?

It makes sense to me, thanks again guys!

--- In Crestron@..., Richard Cronk <rcronk@> wrote:

I just programed one. All you do is send a &#92;x0d for each . Then you send
the command
On 2013-05-31 8:04 PM, "avsystemdesign" <avsystemdesign@> wrote:

**


Hey guys, I am trying to control a Sharp TV over Ethernet. The problem
is
it requests a password. Is there a way to disable this? Or do I need
to do
something in the program to fulfill its request?
When I connect to the display with my web browser, it also asks for a
username and password, yet there is no user name or password, so simply
hitting OK lets you in.

Thanks in advance.



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Re: Using an analog to determine direction

 

You don't often hear 'Core3' and 'much easier' used together.

Sounds like you've already solved the problem, but if you're truely ramping
the analog (as in, a symbol that generates a RCB), you might get a Ramp
Information symbol (speedkey: RIN) to work. It's not a 'published' symbol,
so take with a large grain of salt.

On Thursday, June 13, 2013, Audible Solutions wrote:

**


Thanks.
I used an ASUM, SMV, and RMV for the signal delay, took the original
analog into a SAMPLE, and then used the ACOMP2 to determine if the motor
was moving up or down. Seems like an awful lot of work when the CORE3
"Drape Controller" would be much easier, with less overhead and more
accurately. I could not wrap my head around it. Thanks for the suggestion.

--- In Crestron@... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'Crestron%40yahoogroups.com');>, Jeremy Weatherford <jweather@...> wrote:

Delay the position value by a few waves by wrapping it through an ABUF,
then use ACOMP2 to see whether the new value is higher or lower.
Depending
on how fast it's moving, the > and < outputs won't be on full-time, but
you
could use a ROS to hold them high for a second or two, that should give
you
a continuous "moving up" or "moving down" indicator.


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Audible Solutions <
crestronprogrammer.1@...> wrote:

Is there a way to take an unsigned analog and determine if the value is
ramping up to 65535d or down to 0d in Simpl? Obviously, you can use a
slider but I've been forbidden the use of these in this case. I only
have
an analog value for feedback and I need some way to determine digital
feedback on buttons. If it matters, it is for a shade and I have to
determine if the shade is going up, down or stopped based on the
analog.

TIA

Alan



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Re: Purchasing Sandbox equipment

 

I would buy a DMPS, RMC-Scaler and a TSW-750, maybe a capture-hd too?

From: scotterroy <scott.dejong@...>
Reply-To: <Crestron@...>
Date: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:16 PM
To: <Crestron@...>
Subject: [Crestron] Purchasing Sandbox equipment






I have been given the OK to put together a list of equipment that I would
like to have as a sandbox to play around with. We are just starting to
switch some of our classrooms to Digital. My question is this... If you
were given a budget of around 10k - 12k, what would you buy for your
playground?


Re: DivMod and Modulous in Simpl+

 

Now if only I had a Pro3 at home instead of a Pro2 I might know this ;)

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of RobK
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 5:32 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: DivMod and Modulous in Simpl+

In the 3 series, in SIMPL#, you can do floats, just for what it's worth.


--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

MOD

A = Y MOD Z;

Though (in the 2 series at least) SIMPL+ has no concept of floating point math -- if you need to play with decimals you'll need to use some tricks

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of maglite4cell
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 2:15 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] DivMod and Modulous in Simpl+

Has anyone ever used something like divmod in SIMPL+. I need to work with decimals. Any Ideas?



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Re: Problems with NEC E-xx3 series via RS232

desinr94
 

I have confirmed that control of the monitor is possible using only pins 2,3,5 from a laptop to the DB9-2.5mm adaptor at the monitor. However, still no luck with control from the MPC panel.

Maybe Neil is onto something with the 12vdc peak voltage from the com port. This is not a published spec, any idea of the rating from the MPC controller or a DM-RMC?

--- In Crestron@..., "kwmarles" <kwmarles@...> wrote:

Having same problem with a NEC E533. I got a DPMS-200C using the RS232 on a DM-RMC-Scaler.

Bump


--- In Crestron@..., "Chip" <cfm@> wrote:


What about things like Ring Indicator and Carrier Detect? (Not that those matter to us, but I thought they were part of the spec?)

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

RS232 by definition doesn't support anything beyond 5 wires max for RX, TX, GND, CTS & RTS.

I have seen all kinda of issues with NEC E series displays bing VERY picky about the peak voltage the control device RS-232 port operates at. For instance 1-way ports peak at 5VDC and wouldn't control the NEC E-series but the full 2-way ports that support 12VDC peak would.

Could be the MPC ports don't do 12VDC peak.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-06-12, at 6:58 PM, "desinr94" <danny.mclaughlin@> wrote:



Yes, this works with a full 9-pin cable using a full DB9 com port. But as anyone been able to control these with the usual 2,3,5? The monitor has a 4-position 2.5mm jack, with a supplied 2.5mm - DB9 adaptor. Pins 2,3,5 & 9 are wired at the adaptor, so maybe the monitor is looking for something on Pin 9? Trying to control these with an MPC controller, with only 2,3,5,7,8 available on the com port.

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

NECs PD Comms tool. Use a proper 2-way com port

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-04-24, at 11:29 AM, "jb69029" <jb69029@> wrote:

We've tried just about every fix imaginable and every one that's been listed on here, to get the RS232 working with the new E463 NEC monitor. We can't find IR codes or RS232 codes to control the monitor. NEC tech support even said they didn't have IR or serial drivers for Crestron. Has anyone else come across a solution??


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Re: RTI and Crestron

 

I haven't encountered that problem (yet), but this is good to know.

Thanks!

--- On Thursday, June 13, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Aaron wrote:

I've always experienced what I assumed was crappy RF when using RTI remotes
with Crestron. However, I just discovered the fix. In Integration Designer,
if you go into "Properties" for any button with a command assigned, there's
a setting for "minimum repeats" under the "Infrared" tab (which I've always
ignored because I assumed it only applied to IR drivers). Click the "min
repeats" up to 3 or 4 and the RF reception will suddenly be awesome! It's
like night and day! Just thought I'd share in case anyone was having the
same issue.


RTI and Crestron

Aaron
 

I've always experienced what I assumed was crappy RF when using RTI remotes with Crestron. However, I just discovered the fix. In Integration Designer, if you go into "Properties" for any button with a command assigned, there's a setting for "minimum repeats" under the "Infrared" tab (which I've always ignored because I assumed it only applied to IR drivers). Click the "min repeats" up to 3 or 4 and the RF reception will suddenly be awesome! It's like night and day! Just thought I'd share in case anyone was having the same issue.


Re: DirecTV C31

 

IR emitter

--- In Crestron@..., "Jim" <jimgermany@...> wrote:

Has anyone worked on an alternative method of control? serial/USB dongle doesn't seem to work.

--- In Crestron@..., "Anthony Desimone" <anthony_desimone@> wrote:

Has anyone has a chance to control these yet? I don't see an IR driver in the database yet and google is failing me.


Re: TSW-750 Issues

 

3000km from somebody with a brain is a lot closer than 10km from a wealthy customer that doesn't WANT to deal with a firmware upgrade. Blessed are the commercial accounts.

--- In Crestron@..., "Dustin" <dustin@...> wrote:

While I completely acknowledge the growing pains and evolution of the new products, one thing I think some folks are missing are the new tools for deploying firmware and graphics updates such as FTP usage and the FGET console command. With the new panels, both firmware and graphics projects are becoming too large to manage remotely unless you utilize the new commands. The pain of these updates is severely lowered when it takes a fraction of the time.

I updated a 32Mb tsw project on over 200 panels that are on 5 different properties yesterday in 2 hours all from my desk. Firmware can be done in the same fashion. (I have done it in the past)

Really takes the sting out of it.

--- In Crestron@..., "Jason Santlofer" <jason@> wrote:

I think everyone needs to tell Crestron the very same thing. It is not ok
to have dealers running around constantly because the product was put out
before it should have been. 6 firmwares 12 tech calls and 90 Hours later
(unbillable) I think I might now actually have a stable functional system.
Now who is going to pay me for my time? Sure as hell not the customer.







From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of dingothewop
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:54 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: TSW-750 Issues





I'm having the same issues, as well as the same fears as you are Heath. I'm
wondering if's an issue with he network switch the TSW's are connected to. I
AM using the CEN-SWPOE24 and I have a sneaking suspicion that the POE is not
very reliable. The SWPOE24 also has the reboot at "x" time function but I
have found that when I have network wierdness, a soft reboot does not work,
a power cycle is the only remedy. I am curious to see what other network
switches others are using.

And Heath, your a major player in the Crestron world, maybe you could
explain to them that as programmers we cant run back to a job and do
firmware updates every 2 months, that seems to be the frequency in which the
TSW "inprovements" are coming.

Dino
Lips Electronics

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , Heath
Volmer <hvolmer@> wrote:

"Periodicreboot on" turns on the every-day reboot cycle. It should then
reboot every day at 2am. You only run the command once, on the TSW.

I haven't had the feedback problems since, but there is a noticeable
"start up lag" and unpredictability that happens the first time someone
tries to access something each day, as the various objects get going. On the
panels that I have not set to reboot, I've noticed some other odd behaviors
- most notably buttons going off like fireworks - so I have concluded that
rebooting is the best thing to do for now.

(I'm a firm believer that this stuff is never going to work reliably like
it did when a slow Cresnet thing was the go-to. We better be building this
into our pricing and service plans - and our clients' expectations. I hope
to heaven that I'm wrong.)

Heath Volmer
Digital Domain Systems
Littleton, CO

Sent from my iTypo 4

On Jun 11, 2013, at 12:24 PM, "cyberbri24" <cyberbri24@> wrote:

On the phone now (on hold) with TB. I'm using the TSW-750 with a
DMPS-300-C and having the damm button FB issue. Still trying to find out the
winning combination on what is causing it or how to get it to stop doing
this. Is this command below supposed to be only sent to the panel and at
night when the user is not staring at it? My button FB is for a list of
sources and it is really bubgging the hell out of me that I am wasting all
day on what other people are saying is a known issue. Ugh! I can see in
toolbox that my FB is high but the panel obviously is showing either wrong
or no FB.

Thanks,
Cyberbri

I suspect that you'll find that they are still on line, and transmitting
presses, but have stopped responding to feedback. If not, you've got a
different problem than what many of us have been up against. I've been
dealing
with this for a while and the band-aid solution for now is to use the
PERIODICREBOOT ON command to keep the things fresh every day. If someone
needs
multiple reboots per day, you may need to devise logic to console and
issue
reboot commands multiple times.

We've been through the "channels", all the way. No more channels to go
through.
They know that something is wrong. I had almost lost faith in my own
ability to
finish ;-).

Heath







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Re: DivMod and Modulous in Simpl+

 

I have usually multiplied everything by 100, then run my equation and then correct the output back two decimal places.

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

MOD

A = Y MOD Z;

Though (in the 2 series at least) SIMPL+ has no concept of floating point math -- if you need to play with decimals you'll need to use some tricks

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of maglite4cell
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 2:15 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] DivMod and Modulous in Simpl+

Has anyone ever used something like divmod in SIMPL+. I need to work with decimals. Any Ideas?



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Re: Using an analog to determine direction

 

I don't believe that will work. While it is running a solution, the system does not retrieve new values from the internal queues that hold the values from the hardware. So when you compare the N-many wave delayed value to the "new" value they're going to be the same.

--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <jweather@...> wrote:

Delay the position value by a few waves by wrapping it through an ABUF,
then use ACOMP2 to see whether the new value is higher or lower. Depending
on how fast it's moving, the > and < outputs won't be on full-time, but you
could use a ROS to hold them high for a second or two, that should give you
a continuous "moving up" or "moving down" indicator.


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Audible Solutions <
crestronprogrammer.1@...> wrote:

Is there a way to take an unsigned analog and determine if the value is
ramping up to 65535d or down to 0d in Simpl? Obviously, you can use a
slider but I've been forbidden the use of these in this case. I only have
an analog value for feedback and I need some way to determine digital
feedback on buttons. If it matters, it is for a shade and I have to
determine if the shade is going up, down or stopped based on the analog.

TIA

Alan



------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links




--
Jeremy Weatherford


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Re: DivMod and Modulous in Simpl+

 

In the 3 series, in SIMPL#, you can do floats, just for what it's worth.

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

MOD

A = Y MOD Z;

Though (in the 2 series at least) SIMPL+ has no concept of floating point math -- if you need to play with decimals you'll need to use some tricks

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of maglite4cell
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 2:15 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] DivMod and Modulous in Simpl+

Has anyone ever used something like divmod in SIMPL+. I need to work with decimals. Any Ideas?



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Re: DirecTV C31

 

Has anyone worked on an alternative method of control? serial/USB dongle doesn't seem to work.

--- In Crestron@..., "Anthony Desimone" <anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

Has anyone has a chance to control these yet? I don't see an IR driver in the database yet and google is failing me.


Re: Problems with NEC E-xx3 series via RS232

 

Having same problem with a NEC E533. I got a DPMS-200C using the RS232 on a DM-RMC-Scaler.

Bump

--- In Crestron@..., "Chip" <cfm@...> wrote:


What about things like Ring Indicator and Carrier Detect? (Not that those matter to us, but I thought they were part of the spec?)

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

RS232 by definition doesn't support anything beyond 5 wires max for RX, TX, GND, CTS & RTS.

I have seen all kinda of issues with NEC E series displays bing VERY picky about the peak voltage the control device RS-232 port operates at. For instance 1-way ports peak at 5VDC and wouldn't control the NEC E-series but the full 2-way ports that support 12VDC peak would.

Could be the MPC ports don't do 12VDC peak.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-06-12, at 6:58 PM, "desinr94" <danny.mclaughlin@> wrote:



Yes, this works with a full 9-pin cable using a full DB9 com port. But as anyone been able to control these with the usual 2,3,5? The monitor has a 4-position 2.5mm jack, with a supplied 2.5mm - DB9 adaptor. Pins 2,3,5 & 9 are wired at the adaptor, so maybe the monitor is looking for something on Pin 9? Trying to control these with an MPC controller, with only 2,3,5,7,8 available on the com port.

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

NECs PD Comms tool. Use a proper 2-way com port

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-04-24, at 11:29 AM, "jb69029" <jb69029@> wrote:

We've tried just about every fix imaginable and every one that's been listed on here, to get the RS232 working with the new E463 NEC monitor. We can't find IR codes or RS232 codes to control the monitor. NEC tech support even said they didn't have IR or serial drivers for Crestron. Has anyone else come across a solution??


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Re: Cisco Profile 52/55 OEM Display Manufacturer?

Seth Olle
 

They are sharp, not pioneer.

On 6/13/13 4:27 PM, "Rapha?l Thiffault" <raphaelthiffault@...> wrote:

I'm not sure but i think it's pionneer.
Do you have a part number behind the display who could help us to help
you.

{Paf}
Le 13 juin 2013 10:13, "Mike" <mikelumer@...> a ¨¦crit :

**


Anyone know who actually makes these flat panels for the cisco profile
55s? I have to serially control them and don't want to spend hours
trying
different baud rates & protocols...

Thanks!







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