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Re: updating firmware from script

 

I already asked this question to TB, since the DMPS has so many different
parts to the firmwares, it is not possible to update them with a script.

From: fabiodaubermann <fdaubermann@...>
Reply-To: <Crestron@...>
Date: Friday, June 14, 2013 12:27 PM
To: <Crestron@...>
Subject: [Crestron] updating firmware from script






We have a project with a bunch of DMPS-300's around and I am looking for a
way to update all the firmwares using a script (it takes a long time per
processor).
I have always used scripts to upload panels and programs, but never
firmware. Is there a way? And if yes, can somebody copy and paste an
example?
All DMPS's sit on the same VLAN.

Thanks,
Fabio









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updating firmware from script

 

We have a project with a bunch of DMPS-300's around and I am looking for a way to update all the firmwares using a script (it takes a long time per processor).
I have always used scripts to upload panels and programs, but never firmware. Is there a way? And if yes, can somebody copy and paste an example?
All DMPS's sit on the same VLAN.

Thanks,
Fabio


Re: Crosspoints and Party Mode

 

I've usually implemented party modes as a hybrid in my resi systems.

I have a Party Mode AV Zone ECROSS which is what the interface CCROSS
connects to. Then, based on the the user's inclusion or exclusion of each
zone into the current "party" configuration, I enable/disable a buffer to
allow the commands from the party mode ECROSS to propegate to the zone
control joins.

The trick is the feedback. I pick the first zone added to "party mode" and
use it's feedback back to the interface panel. That way I'm not jamming
multiple zone's feedback back through a single CCROSS to the panel.

In most cases, it's desired for party mode to track AV source selection and
control, but not volume. I often have the ability to force a single volume
to all zones as a party mode "preset" but then each volume control is
individually adjustable on a special party mode volume page. I use the
same subpage with multiple join offset references and "instantiate" a
reference for each zone currently part of the active "party".

Works well for me and is flexible for most client's desires.

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Nate <soccerquist@...> wrote:

**


Happy Friday All,

I've been reading some of the other threads recently about crosspoints and
it sparked me to want to throw my question out there. I've been using
crosspoints a lot lately and have gotten a pretty good handle on what I
want to accomplish with them and this has been rather exciting for me. But
the one thing that I'm still stuck on is doing a party mode and/or sharing
sources. I was wondering if some of you crosspoint guru's have some
advice/knowledge about this specific topic that you would be willing to
share with those of us who are still novices in the realm of crosspoints.
Is there a good way to do this with crosspoints or is it less messy to just
buffer that part out?

Thank you for your time,

Nate L.

Sent from my iPad


Crosspoints and Party Mode

 

Happy Friday All,

I've been reading some of the other threads recently about crosspoints and it sparked me to want to throw my question out there. I've been using crosspoints a lot lately and have gotten a pretty good handle on what I want to accomplish with them and this has been rather exciting for me. But the one thing that I'm still stuck on is doing a party mode and/or sharing sources. I was wondering if some of you crosspoint guru's have some advice/knowledge about this specific topic that you would be willing to share with those of us who are still novices in the realm of crosspoints. Is there a good way to do this with crosspoints or is it less messy to just buffer that part out?

Thank you for your time,

Nate L.


Re: TSW-750 Issues

cyberbri24
 

Somehow they fixed my tsw project. They are not telling me what else they did other than having me use the latest Core 3 UI controls 1.13.21.01 that they sent me to open and recompile. Fingers crossed.

Cyberbri

--- In Crestron@..., "dingothewop" <diacuzzo@...> wrote:

3000km from somebody with a brain is a lot closer than 10km from a wealthy customer that doesn't WANT to deal with a firmware upgrade. Blessed are the commercial accounts.

--- In Crestron@..., "Dustin" <dustin@> wrote:

While I completely acknowledge the growing pains and evolution of the new products, one thing I think some folks are missing are the new tools for deploying firmware and graphics updates such as FTP usage and the FGET console command. With the new panels, both firmware and graphics projects are becoming too large to manage remotely unless you utilize the new commands. The pain of these updates is severely lowered when it takes a fraction of the time.

I updated a 32Mb tsw project on over 200 panels that are on 5 different properties yesterday in 2 hours all from my desk. Firmware can be done in the same fashion. (I have done it in the past)

Really takes the sting out of it.

--- In Crestron@..., "Jason Santlofer" <jason@> wrote:

I think everyone needs to tell Crestron the very same thing. It is not ok
to have dealers running around constantly because the product was put out
before it should have been. 6 firmwares 12 tech calls and 90 Hours later
(unbillable) I think I might now actually have a stable functional system.
Now who is going to pay me for my time? Sure as hell not the customer.







From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of dingothewop
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:54 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: TSW-750 Issues





I'm having the same issues, as well as the same fears as you are Heath. I'm
wondering if's an issue with he network switch the TSW's are connected to. I
AM using the CEN-SWPOE24 and I have a sneaking suspicion that the POE is not
very reliable. The SWPOE24 also has the reboot at "x" time function but I
have found that when I have network wierdness, a soft reboot does not work,
a power cycle is the only remedy. I am curious to see what other network
switches others are using.

And Heath, your a major player in the Crestron world, maybe you could
explain to them that as programmers we cant run back to a job and do
firmware updates every 2 months, that seems to be the frequency in which the
TSW "inprovements" are coming.

Dino
Lips Electronics

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , Heath
Volmer <hvolmer@> wrote:

"Periodicreboot on" turns on the every-day reboot cycle. It should then
reboot every day at 2am. You only run the command once, on the TSW.

I haven't had the feedback problems since, but there is a noticeable
"start up lag" and unpredictability that happens the first time someone
tries to access something each day, as the various objects get going. On the
panels that I have not set to reboot, I've noticed some other odd behaviors
- most notably buttons going off like fireworks - so I have concluded that
rebooting is the best thing to do for now.

(I'm a firm believer that this stuff is never going to work reliably like
it did when a slow Cresnet thing was the go-to. We better be building this
into our pricing and service plans - and our clients' expectations. I hope
to heaven that I'm wrong.)

Heath Volmer
Digital Domain Systems
Littleton, CO

Sent from my iTypo 4

On Jun 11, 2013, at 12:24 PM, "cyberbri24" <cyberbri24@> wrote:

On the phone now (on hold) with TB. I'm using the TSW-750 with a
DMPS-300-C and having the damm button FB issue. Still trying to find out the
winning combination on what is causing it or how to get it to stop doing
this. Is this command below supposed to be only sent to the panel and at
night when the user is not staring at it? My button FB is for a list of
sources and it is really bubgging the hell out of me that I am wasting all
day on what other people are saying is a known issue. Ugh! I can see in
toolbox that my FB is high but the panel obviously is showing either wrong
or no FB.

Thanks,
Cyberbri

I suspect that you'll find that they are still on line, and transmitting
presses, but have stopped responding to feedback. If not, you've got a
different problem than what many of us have been up against. I've been
dealing
with this for a while and the band-aid solution for now is to use the
PERIODICREBOOT ON command to keep the things fresh every day. If someone
needs
multiple reboots per day, you may need to devise logic to console and
issue
reboot commands multiple times.

We've been through the "channels", all the way. No more channels to go
through.
They know that something is wrong. I had almost lost faith in my own
ability to
finish ;-).

Heath


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Re: private Internet radio station

 

It's been a few years (maybe closer to a decade) since I've looked at it but one option -- if it hasn't been deprecated by Microsoft in the interim -- would be to use a Windows Server with Windows Media Services and do live streaming.

Assuming that all of the business locations have site-to-site VPNs or other "private" connectivity you have a fairly secure option with very light lifting and the stream can be received by any PC with Windows Media player and I'm almost positive there are also hardware receivers/players (though again... I haven't been playing in that field since I left the university....

Lincoln

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of campana3012
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 11:10 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] private Internet radio station

Have a client asking (well my interpretation of what he is asking)
if we can set him up a private internet radio station and then have several of his business locations tune in to it.
I was thinking atc audionet in cen track. But am concerned about how easy or hard it would be to control radio station functions and recieve metadata etc..
Has anyone had any experience with some of these "shoutcast" sites APIs?
are there some that are easier than others to control?
any input is welcome



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private Internet radio station

campana3012
 

Have a client asking (well my interpretation of what he is asking)
if we can set him up a private internet radio station and then have several of his business locations tune in to it.
I was thinking atc audionet in cen track. But am concerned about how easy or hard it would be to control radio station functions and recieve metadata etc..
Has anyone had any experience with some of these "shoutcast" sites APIs?
are there some that are easier than others to control?
any input is welcome


Re: Pro3 Control Subnet Automatic Port Forwarding

 

Everything on the control subnet is DHCP... I thought the whole point was that you didn't have to manually add entries, and as long as the devices were DHCP the processor would automagically handle the forwarding.

I'm realizing that I'm really foggy on the Control Subnet operation, but for example, with a DM-MD16x16 on the control subnet (with 65 entries in its own port forwarding table) it seems like pure insanity to have to manually add "all"* of those to the Pro3 port forwarding table.

Lincoln
*- Realizing, of course, that all 65 entries are likely not necessary -- but some subset are.

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Nathan Hesson
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 10:24 AM
To: crestron
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: Pro3 Control Subnet Automatic Port Forwarding

Also, are your devices setup as dhcp? I believe that is a requirement.
On Jun 13, 2013 10:54 AM, "krommes" <krommes@...> wrote:

Lincoln,

Did you add the relevant entries in the PRO3's Ethernet Control Subnet
setup page? (I just did the analgous thing for an AV3.)

---John Krommes

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

Am I delusional or crazy? Wait. Don't answer that.

I was under the impression that the processors with Control Subnets
(Control Subneti?) were supposed to automagically configure port forwarding
to Crestron devices on the Control Subnet.

If so... how do you make it work?

I have a Pro3 with a DM-MD16x16-RPS, a TPMC-V12, and a TPMC-V15 on the
control subnet.

With my laptop on the CS, Device Discovery sees all, however,
SHOWPORTMAP shows no ports forwarded from the LAN to the Control Subnet.

What am I missing here/what should the client do to access the DM from
the LAN side?

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider








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Re: Crosspoint Question

 

No, I just triggered the connections from debugger. Thanks for that
command, I will try that next time.

Based on the feedback from you guys, looks like I'll have to restructure my
module.

--
Sebastian Marszalek


Re: Pro3 Control Subnet Automatic Port Forwarding

 

Also, are your devices setup as dhcp? I believe that is a requirement.

On Jun 13, 2013 10:54 AM, "krommes" <krommes@...> wrote:

Lincoln,

Did you add the relevant entries in the PRO3's Ethernet Control Subnet
setup page? (I just did the analgous thing for an AV3.)

---John Krommes

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

Am I delusional or crazy? Wait. Don't answer that.

I was under the impression that the processors with Control Subnets
(Control Subneti?) were supposed to automagically configure port forwarding
to Crestron devices on the Control Subnet.

If so... how do you make it work?

I have a Pro3 with a DM-MD16x16-RPS, a TPMC-V12, and a TPMC-V15 on the
control subnet.

With my laptop on the CS, Device Discovery sees all, however,
SHOWPORTMAP shows no ports forwarded from the LAN to the Control Subnet.

What am I missing here/what should the client do to access the DM from
the LAN side?

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider








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Re: Crosspoint Question

 

Have you tried using the console command 'routesymstat' to ensure your XPs
are connected where they should be? That's where I start when
troubleshooting XPs.
On Jun 14, 2013 6:35 AM, "sebastian marszalek" <s.marszalek11@...>
wrote:

Thanks Chris,

Yes me too, definitely love Crosspoints

--
Sebastian Marszalek






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Re: Emerson - Avocent PM 3000

 

Yeah, thanks Chip,

actually just looking at it now. I need to control it over IP.

M.

--- In Crestron@..., "Chip" <cfm@...> wrote:


If you download the manual for that piece, there's a whole section that goes over the command line interface that you can access either over RS232 or TCP/IP.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., "Martin" <djmartinweiss@> wrote:

Hi guys,

need help. I need to control rack PDUs.
They sit on the network but didn't find anything on the web how to control them.

Manufacturer: Emerson
Unit: Avocent PM 3000



I tried support with no luck atm will try ring somebody else as well just wondering whether someone here did a job with these.

Thank you.

Martin


Re: Emerson - Avocent PM 3000

Chip
 

If you download the manual for that piece, there's a whole section that goes over the command line interface that you can access either over RS232 or TCP/IP.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., "Martin" <djmartinweiss@...> wrote:

Hi guys,

need help. I need to control rack PDUs.
They sit on the network but didn't find anything on the web how to control them.

Manufacturer: Emerson
Unit: Avocent PM 3000



I tried support with no luck atm will try ring somebody else as well just wondering whether someone here did a job with these.

Thank you.

Martin


Re: New Crestron Mobile App theme support?

 

Yes custom generated themes are working fine on the new iPad app. We have been testing new themes from ElevateGRFX without any real issue. Only issue was that we were using a non support font so we had to change to arial.

Regards
Steve

--- In Crestron@..., "appelguy123" <appelguy@...> wrote:

After quite a bit of messing around with the new app, it seems there's a pretty big issue. Has anyone tried loading a non-Crestron theme? I have tried one fron NTDesigns, and the system just hangs whenever I try to load it.

Does anyone know if custom-generated themes are supported? If not, a lot of our pre-made designs from the TSWs aren't going to work on this at all, without a lot of re-tooling.

-Ryan Appel


Re: Crosspoint Question

crestron_dave73
 

Chris where are you out of? I am lost when it comes too cross points when in large programs would like to speak with you.

--- In Crestron@..., "ChrisK" <chris@...> wrote:

Sebastian,
For over 10 years, I've used the XPs embedded in my own modules for scalability. For UIs and such, the module has a CCROSS and its own ECConn, which is discoonected from previous ECROSS, before connecting to a new one. I will copy this module X times and it works great. This does limit the module to only connecting to one ECROSS at a time, but for me that makes sense - And I think having one ECConn with its own CCROSS makes scalability and modularity much easier.

When I need a panel to be connected to multiple things at the same time, I duplicate the above XP system for the 2nd, 3rd.. connections and have different sets of joins for each. I.E. I have an XP system for AV control, Systems Control (HVAC, Lighting, SEC), Status Feedback, etc.

Love Crosspoints!!!!!

Chris K..................;)

--- In Crestron@..., sebastian marszalek <s.marszalek11@> wrote:

Yes, I made sure that i disconnect from EC in Module 1 and it still doesn't
work.

Neil, I get what you are saying but I thought multiple ECConnect's in a
single program is allowed?

--
Sebastian Marszalek




Re: Crosspoint Question

 

Thanks Chris,

Yes me too, definitely love Crosspoints

--
Sebastian Marszalek


Re: Crosspoint Question

 

Sebastian,
For over 10 years, I've used the XPs embedded in my own modules for scalability. For UIs and such, the module has a CCROSS and its own ECConn, which is discoonected from previous ECROSS, before connecting to a new one. I will copy this module X times and it works great. This does limit the module to only connecting to one ECROSS at a time, but for me that makes sense - And I think having one ECConn with its own CCROSS makes scalability and modularity much easier.

When I need a panel to be connected to multiple things at the same time, I duplicate the above XP system for the 2nd, 3rd.. connections and have different sets of joins for each. I.E. I have an XP system for AV control, Systems Control (HVAC, Lighting, SEC), Status Feedback, etc.

Love Crosspoints!!!!!

Chris K..................;)

--- In Crestron@..., sebastian marszalek <s.marszalek11@...> wrote:

Yes, I made sure that i disconnect from EC in Module 1 and it still doesn't
work.

Neil, I get what you are saying but I thought multiple ECConnect's in a
single program is allowed?

--
Sebastian Marszalek




Re: For Sale

 

I have a TPS-6L for sale. Please contact off list if interested.

Thanks,
Chris K................;)
chris at eicustom dot com

--- In Crestron@..., Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:

The TPS-6L has been sold - replying here because lots of you expressed
interest in it.


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:

I have a few things that I'd like to get rid of:

- AMS-AIP with dual-AM/FM tuner card. Somewhat ugly shipping box (from
AVAD). Clean unit. Has been sitting in the bottom of my desk rack for way
too long. (Intended to use it for Adagio code testing and then never used
another Adagio again.) Never installed. $2000 OBO
- TPS-6LA with post-construction bracket. Box. Blank button faceplate
has scratches. Has been in my wall, and pretty much never used for way too
long. $150 OBO
- TPS-4500V, IMC. Original box. Make offer
- CT-1000 with post-construction bracket. Again, installed in the wall in
my workshop for too long, light use. Make offer.

Factory warranties are expired. I'll take it back if it doesn't work of
course.

Contact me: hvolmer-at-ddsys-dot-CO

Thanks, Heath


Heath Volmer
Digital Domain Systems
Littleton, CO


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Digital Domain Systems
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Re: RTI and Crestron

TechyJake
 

There are 2 other ways to do it as well, even though I will NOT recommend one of them. I have done all 3 and all work and have been stable for many years. The first one is using the Crestron gateway as suggested with a touch panel in the D3Prog project. I have had a project which had 6 RTI remotes already in it and a RP6 processor. I quickly wrote an RS232 driver for the RTI and a matching one for the Crestron side. It was flawless. The nice thing is you can add any string for anything you want. With the newer RTI processors, you can do 2way with a little work on the RTI side using this method. I have also had to use the CNXRMIRD (not recommended, a not so smart sales guy did this to me and I do NOT think you have access to this in D3 anyways). I have had to use all 3, regardless of it being my choice or not, for both RTI and URC.

TJ


Re: Using an analog to determine direction

 

I don't follow you... which "hardware" are you talking about? Why would an
analog delayed by one wave always be the same as the current value? Note
that I'm not saying the values are always different while moving, that's
why I recommended an ROS to debounce it.

I don't have a shade controller sitting around to play with, but it works
fine from an XPanel slider:

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:33 PM, RobK <fooguy89@...> wrote:

I don't believe that will work. While it is running a solution, the
system does not retrieve new values from the internal queues that hold the
values from the hardware. So when you compare the N-many wave delayed
value to the "new" value they're going to be the same.


--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <jweather@...> wrote:

Delay the position value by a few waves by wrapping it through an ABUF,
then use ACOMP2 to see whether the new value is higher or lower.
Depending
on how fast it's moving, the > and < outputs won't be on full-time, but
you
could use a ROS to hold them high for a second or two, that should give
you
a continuous "moving up" or "moving down" indicator.


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Audible Solutions <
crestronprogrammer.1@...> wrote:

Is there a way to take an unsigned analog and determine if the value is
ramping up to 65535d or down to 0d in Simpl? Obviously, you can use a
slider but I've been forbidden the use of these in this case. I only
have
an analog value for feedback and I need some way to determine digital
feedback on buttons. If it matters, it is for a shade and I have to
determine if the shade is going up, down or stopped based on the
analog.

TIA

Alan



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