Did I say cheap too ?
animal
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Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?
Suggest taking a battery powered drill and a couple 4¡¯ lengths of 2x4 and some 1/4¡± or 5/16¡± carriage bolts with nuts and washers plus appropriate drill bit and wrench. Set the lathe feet on the 2x4s and bolt the boards in place extending equally out from each side. Take a bit longer to load, maybe, but be more secure from turning over. I did something similar when bringing home a slightly larger larger lathe.?
Charlesl
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On Jul 12, 2023, at 5:14 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
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Good deal , thats part of the " work smarter , not harder plan "
. Wish I paid more attention to that plan in my younger days .
animal
On 7/12/23 2:56 PM, David Matthews
wrote:
Basic plan is to take the lathe off of the table.? That
makes it about 300 pounds and 200 pounds.,? It has to come
apart to go in the cellar anyway.
Dave
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at
5:26?PM mike allen < animal@...>
wrote:
??? These things are top heavy , remove what ever you can
. Tool post , chuck , tailstock ....
Ideally removing the lathe from the base . I don't know
much about these lathes , but looking at the manual it
looks like you can relieve tension on the final drive belt
& then remove the belt from the drive pulley &
then tie it out of the way & then remove the lathe
from the stand ?
Good thing those trailers have lots of tie points .
good luck
animal
On 7/12/23 1:44 PM, David Matthews wrote:
We got to a price on the lathe and I am scheduled
to get it Friday, assuming it is in good shape. I plan
to pull it apart and am wondering what is needed to
release the spindle belts.? Manual calls out
tensioning and then tightening the bracket mounting
bolts in top left of the diagram below.? I am assuming
reversing this.? Anyone know what format the bracket
mounting bolts are?? I want to make sure I have the
right tools with me.? Taking an engine hoist and a U
Haul 5x9 trailer with me.? Lower than the back of the
pickup.
Dave
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023
at 11:17?AM Dave Matthews < n36078@...>
wrote:
There is an At;las 3990 about 75 miles from
here that I replied to in an ad.? Not great photos
but it has a 3 jaw and shows a quick change tool
post with a boring bar in it.? It looks like a
garage and fairly accessible.? It is being
advertised for a client by what appears to be a
real estate agent.? Story is older guy in ill
health and wife getting rid of the house.? I have
an engine hoist so I could move it into my pickup,
possibly by removing the lathe from the table.
I am guessing that they aren't getting a lot of
interest because the seller messaged me this
morning implying that they were very open to
offers.
What is a reasonable price range on one of
these lathes?? Looks to be a 12".? Serial is
005555.
Dave
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Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?
At 65 I have figured out that I don't move as fast as I used to and I don't heal as fast either.
Dave
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023, 18:14 mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
Good deal , thats part of the " work smarter , not harder plan "
. Wish I paid more attention to that plan in my younger days .
animal
On 7/12/23 2:56 PM, David Matthews
wrote:
Basic plan is to take the lathe off of the table.? That
makes it about 300 pounds and 200 pounds.,? It has to come
apart to go in the cellar anyway.
Dave
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at
5:26?PM mike allen < animal@...>
wrote:
??? These things are top heavy , remove what ever you can
. Tool post , chuck , tailstock ....
Ideally removing the lathe from the base . I don't know
much about these lathes , but looking at the manual it
looks like you can relieve tension on the final drive belt
& then remove the belt from the drive pulley &
then tie it out of the way & then remove the lathe
from the stand ?
Good thing those trailers have lots of tie points .
good luck
animal
On 7/12/23 1:44 PM, David Matthews wrote:
We got to a price on the lathe and I am scheduled
to get it Friday, assuming it is in good shape. I plan
to pull it apart and am wondering what is needed to
release the spindle belts.? Manual calls out
tensioning and then tightening the bracket mounting
bolts in top left of the diagram below.? I am assuming
reversing this.? Anyone know what format the bracket
mounting bolts are?? I want to make sure I have the
right tools with me.? Taking an engine hoist and a U
Haul 5x9 trailer with me.? Lower than the back of the
pickup.
Dave
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023
at 11:17?AM Dave Matthews < n36078@...>
wrote:
There is an At;las 3990 about 75 miles from
here that I replied to in an ad.? Not great photos
but it has a 3 jaw and shows a quick change tool
post with a boring bar in it.? It looks like a
garage and fairly accessible.? It is being
advertised for a client by what appears to be a
real estate agent.? Story is older guy in ill
health and wife getting rid of the house.? I have
an engine hoist so I could move it into my pickup,
possibly by removing the lathe from the table.
I am guessing that they aren't getting a lot of
interest because the seller messaged me this
morning implying that they were very open to
offers.
What is a reasonable price range on one of
these lathes?? Looks to be a 12".? Serial is
005555.
Dave
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For those you you folks with vertical mills I bought one of
these a ways back & I see that they have a bunch more . Good price for a
happening chuck .
Your kinda stuck with the MT2 shank unless you want to do a bunch of
work , but that's what they make collets for .
animal
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Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?
Good deal , thats part of the " work smarter , not harder plan "
. Wish I paid more attention to that plan in my younger days .
animal
On 7/12/23 2:56 PM, David Matthews
wrote:
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Basic plan is to take the lathe off of the table.? That
makes it about 300 pounds and 200 pounds.,? It has to come
apart to go in the cellar anyway.
Dave
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at
5:26?PM mike allen < animal@...>
wrote:
??? These things are top heavy , remove what ever you can
. Tool post , chuck , tailstock ....
Ideally removing the lathe from the base . I don't know
much about these lathes , but looking at the manual it
looks like you can relieve tension on the final drive belt
& then remove the belt from the drive pulley &
then tie it out of the way & then remove the lathe
from the stand ?
Good thing those trailers have lots of tie points .
good luck
animal
On 7/12/23 1:44 PM, David Matthews wrote:
We got to a price on the lathe and I am scheduled
to get it Friday, assuming it is in good shape. I plan
to pull it apart and am wondering what is needed to
release the spindle belts.? Manual calls out
tensioning and then tightening the bracket mounting
bolts in top left of the diagram below.? I am assuming
reversing this.? Anyone know what format the bracket
mounting bolts are?? I want to make sure I have the
right tools with me.? Taking an engine hoist and a U
Haul 5x9 trailer with me.? Lower than the back of the
pickup.
Dave
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023
at 11:17?AM Dave Matthews < n36078@...>
wrote:
There is an At;las 3990 about 75 miles from
here that I replied to in an ad.? Not great photos
but it has a 3 jaw and shows a quick change tool
post with a boring bar in it.? It looks like a
garage and fairly accessible.? It is being
advertised for a client by what appears to be a
real estate agent.? Story is older guy in ill
health and wife getting rid of the house.? I have
an engine hoist so I could move it into my pickup,
possibly by removing the lathe from the table.
I am guessing that they aren't getting a lot of
interest because the seller messaged me this
morning implying that they were very open to
offers.
What is a reasonable price range on one of
these lathes?? Looks to be a 12".? Serial is
005555.
Dave
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Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?
Basic plan is to take the lathe off of the table.? That makes it about 300 pounds and 200 pounds.,? It has to come apart to go in the cellar anyway.
Dave
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 5:26?PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? These things are top heavy , remove what ever you can . Tool
post , chuck , tailstock ....
Ideally removing the lathe from the base . I don't know much
about these lathes , but looking at the manual it looks like you
can relieve tension on the final drive belt & then remove the
belt from the drive pulley & then tie it out of the way &
then remove the lathe from the stand ?
Good thing those trailers have lots of tie points .
good luck
animal
On 7/12/23 1:44 PM, David Matthews
wrote:
We got to a price on the lathe and I am scheduled to get it
Friday, assuming it is in good shape. I plan to pull it apart
and am wondering what is needed to release the spindle belts.?
Manual calls out tensioning and then tightening the bracket
mounting bolts in top left of the diagram below.? I am
assuming reversing this.? Anyone know what format the bracket
mounting bolts are?? I want to make sure I have the right
tools with me.? Taking an engine hoist and a U Haul 5x9
trailer with me.? Lower than the back of the pickup.
Dave
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at
11:17?AM Dave Matthews < n36078@...>
wrote:
There is an At;las 3990 about 75 miles from here that I
replied to in an ad.? Not great photos but it has a 3 jaw
and shows a quick change tool post with a boring bar in
it.? It looks like a garage and fairly accessible.? It is
being advertised for a client by what appears to be a real
estate agent.? Story is older guy in ill health and wife
getting rid of the house.? I have an engine hoist so I
could move it into my pickup, possibly by removing the
lathe from the table.
I am guessing that they aren't getting a lot of
interest because the seller messaged me this morning
implying that they were very open to offers.
What is a reasonable price range on one of these
lathes?? Looks to be a 12".? Serial is 005555.
Dave
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Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?
??? These things are top heavy , remove what ever you can . Tool
post , chuck , tailstock ....
Ideally removing the lathe from the base . I don't know much
about these lathes , but looking at the manual it looks like you
can relieve tension on the final drive belt & then remove the
belt from the drive pulley & then tie it out of the way &
then remove the lathe from the stand ?
Good thing those trailers have lots of tie points .
good luck
animal
On 7/12/23 1:44 PM, David Matthews
wrote:
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We got to a price on the lathe and I am scheduled to get it
Friday, assuming it is in good shape. I plan to pull it apart
and am wondering what is needed to release the spindle belts.?
Manual calls out tensioning and then tightening the bracket
mounting bolts in top left of the diagram below.? I am
assuming reversing this.? Anyone know what format the bracket
mounting bolts are?? I want to make sure I have the right
tools with me.? Taking an engine hoist and a U Haul 5x9
trailer with me.? Lower than the back of the pickup.
Dave
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at
11:17?AM Dave Matthews < n36078@...>
wrote:
There is an At;las 3990 about 75 miles from here that I
replied to in an ad.? Not great photos but it has a 3 jaw
and shows a quick change tool post with a boring bar in
it.? It looks like a garage and fairly accessible.? It is
being advertised for a client by what appears to be a real
estate agent.? Story is older guy in ill health and wife
getting rid of the house.? I have an engine hoist so I
could move it into my pickup, possibly by removing the
lathe from the table.
I am guessing that they aren't getting a lot of
interest because the seller messaged me this morning
implying that they were very open to offers.
What is a reasonable price range on one of these
lathes?? Looks to be a 12".? Serial is 005555.
Dave
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Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?
We got to a price on the lathe and I am scheduled to get it Friday, assuming it is in good shape. I plan to pull it apart and am wondering what is needed to release the spindle belts.? Manual calls out tensioning and then tightening the bracket mounting bolts in top left of the diagram below.? I am assuming reversing this.? Anyone know what format the bracket mounting bolts are?? I want to make sure I have the right tools with me.? Taking an engine hoist and a U Haul 5x9 trailer with me.? Lower than the back of the pickup.
Dave
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 11:17?AM Dave Matthews < n36078@...> wrote: There is an At;las 3990 about 75 miles from here that I replied to in an ad.? Not great photos but it has a 3 jaw and shows a quick change tool post with a boring bar in it.? It looks like a garage and fairly accessible.? It is being advertised for a client by what appears to be a real estate agent.? Story is older guy in ill health and wife getting rid of the house.? I have an engine hoist so I could move it into my pickup, possibly by removing the lathe from the table.
I am guessing that they aren't getting a lot of interest because the seller messaged me this morning implying that they were very open to offers.
What is a reasonable price range on one of these lathes?? Looks to be a 12".? Serial is 005555.
Dave
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Re: STILL LISTED - ATLAS CRAFTSMAN 12" Cabinet Lathe - $800 (Carson City, NV)
Ralph,?
shipping a lathe like this will run you about 200-250 bucks for freight on a pallet, delivered to a terminal near you. Upon arrival, just put it in the back of your truck and drive it home.?
Getting it crated would probably cost you another hundred?bucks at most, between the cost of 2x4s and a few sheets of OSB.
Moving the crate from the seller's house to the shipping terminal can be achieved either with free resources (seller, if willing), or you can get someone from Uship.com to do the local delivery.?
Just to give you an example, I bought a desktop lathe out of state. I paid 75 bucks to a guy to pick it up and deliver it to FedEx Print and Ship. FedEx charged me $36 to put everything in two boxes and fill them with packing materials to prevent jostling the
goodies. Shipping was $104 for ground home delivery.?
Hope this helps.
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It's just too far away, or I would be interested.
Ralph M. Reese
St. Augustine, FL 32084
(904) 501-5216
I still have this listed.?
I gave one person, who swore he was coming after it, a whole week to come get it. He never showed up.
Another was coming up from Bullhead, AZ, but his "transmission went out after 20 miles" on the way. OOPS!
Lots of interest and stories but all "no shows".
I'm guessing it must be my location.
Hard to imagine if someone was serious and saw it the wouldn't buy it. I did, and paid more then, than I'm asking now, actually.
I need it gone by 7/16.
After that, if not sold as shown and described, I will break it down and sell the parts on eBay.
If you are a member of this group and seriously interested in the whole thing as listed, message me and we'll talk.
The Ad is also on Facebook Marketplace.
Description is detailed and photos are clear and accurate, and I have others
Thanks,
-Dan in Nevada
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Re: STILL LISTED - ATLAS CRAFTSMAN 12" Cabinet Lathe - $800 (Carson City, NV)
Thats my thinking , if it was a 49 Harley it would be a different
story
animal
On 7/11/23 10:45 AM, Andrei wrote:
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For sure. Not many want a project. Or another project, for some.
Get
??? I gotto wonder if the fact that its partially dissembled
is keeping folks away ?
animal
On 7/11/23 9:36 AM, db45acp via
groups.io wrote:
I still have this listed.?
I gave one person, who swore he was coming after it, a whole
week to come get it. He never showed up.
Another was coming up from Bullhead, AZ, but his
"transmission went out after 20 miles" on the way. OOPS!
Lots of interest and stories but all "no shows".
I'm guessing it must be my location.
Hard to imagine if someone was serious and saw it the
wouldn't buy it. I did, and paid more then, than I'm asking
now, actually.
I need it gone by 7/16.
After that, if not sold as shown and described, I will break
it down and sell the parts on eBay.
If you are a member of this group and seriously interested
in the whole thing as listed, message me and we'll talk.
The Ad is also on Facebook Marketplace.
Description is detailed and photos are clear and accurate,
and I have others
Thanks,
-Dan in Nevada
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Re: STILL LISTED - ATLAS CRAFTSMAN 12" Cabinet Lathe - $800 (Carson City, NV)
I suspect a big part of the lack of demand is how much work will be required to get it running, concerns about whether unobtanium parts are missing, and what you found that led to you deciding to try to pass this project on. The fact that you are at least the second person to try restoring this doesn¡¯t inspire confidence in prospective buyers.
I still have this listed.?
I gave one person, who swore he was coming after it, a whole week to come get it. He never showed up.
Another was coming up from Bullhead, AZ, but his "transmission went out after 20 miles" on the way. OOPS!
Lots of interest and stories but all "no shows".
I'm guessing it must be my location.
Hard to imagine if someone was serious and saw it the wouldn't buy it. I did, and paid more then, than I'm asking now, actually.
I need it gone by 7/16.
After that, if not sold as shown and described, I will break it down and sell the parts on eBay.
If you are a member of this group and seriously interested in the whole thing as listed, message me and we'll talk.
The Ad is also on Facebook Marketplace.
Description is detailed and photos are clear and accurate, and I have others
Thanks,
-Dan in Nevada
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Re: STILL LISTED - ATLAS CRAFTSMAN 12" Cabinet Lathe - $800 (Carson City, NV)
For sure. Not many want a project. Or another project, for some.
Get
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??? I gotto wonder if the fact that its partially dissembled is keeping folks away ?
animal
On 7/11/23 9:36 AM, db45acp via groups.io wrote:
I still have this listed.?
I gave one person, who swore he was coming after it, a whole week to come get it. He never showed up.
Another was coming up from Bullhead, AZ, but his "transmission went out after 20 miles" on the way. OOPS!
Lots of interest and stories but all "no shows".
I'm guessing it must be my location.
Hard to imagine if someone was serious and saw it the wouldn't buy it. I did, and paid more then, than I'm asking now, actually.
I need it gone by 7/16.
After that, if not sold as shown and described, I will break it down and sell the parts on eBay.
If you are a member of this group and seriously interested in the whole thing as listed, message me and we'll talk.
The Ad is also on Facebook Marketplace.
Description is detailed and photos are clear and accurate, and I have others
Thanks,
-Dan in Nevada
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Re: STILL LISTED - ATLAS CRAFTSMAN 12" Cabinet Lathe - $800 (Carson City, NV)
??? I gotto wonder if the fact that its partially dissembled is
keeping folks away ?
animal
On 7/11/23 9:36 AM, db45acp via
groups.io wrote:
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I still have this listed.?
I gave one person, who swore he was coming after it, a whole
week to come get it. He never showed up.
Another was coming up from Bullhead, AZ, but his "transmission
went out after 20 miles" on the way. OOPS!
Lots of interest and stories but all "no shows".
I'm guessing it must be my location.
Hard to imagine if someone was serious and saw it the wouldn't
buy it. I did, and paid more then, than I'm asking now,
actually.
I need it gone by 7/16.
After that, if not sold as shown and described, I will break it
down and sell the parts on eBay.
If you are a member of this group and seriously interested in
the whole thing as listed, message me and we'll talk.
The Ad is also on Facebook Marketplace.
Description is detailed and photos are clear and accurate, and I
have others
Thanks,
-Dan in Nevada
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Re: STILL LISTED - ATLAS CRAFTSMAN 12" Cabinet Lathe - $800 (Carson City, NV)
It's just too far away, or I would be interested.
Ralph M. Reese
St. Augustine, FL 32084
(904) 501-5216
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I still have this listed.?
I gave one person, who swore he was coming after it, a whole week to come get it. He never showed up.
Another was coming up from Bullhead, AZ, but his "transmission went out after 20 miles" on the way. OOPS!
Lots of interest and stories but all "no shows".
I'm guessing it must be my location.
Hard to imagine if someone was serious and saw it the wouldn't buy it. I did, and paid more then, than I'm asking now, actually.
I need it gone by 7/16.
After that, if not sold as shown and described, I will break it down and sell the parts on eBay.
If you are a member of this group and seriously interested in the whole thing as listed, message me and we'll talk.
The Ad is also on Facebook Marketplace.
Description is detailed and photos are clear and accurate, and I have others
Thanks,
-Dan in Nevada
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though its labeled as a 109 the pic's say different , probably won't
last at thisiprice
not mine
animal
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PROBABLY AXA sized, using the naming convention ALORIS uses.
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you know the drill , not mine just passin on
animal
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You can get the chucks delivered to the US. Seems to be $190 in US not Canadian plus heft shipping and customs.
We have sold out of the 3-jaw 2-piece chucks we do have the 3-jaw with single piece jaw
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US dollars
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It will cost $190 plus shipping duty and customs which will be about $65 more
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We can ship prepaid to you
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If acceptable send full name address and phone number
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-- Bill from Socal
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I have a QCTP on both my 10 in and 12 in Atlas lathes. There is no markings as to their sizes, but both interchange. Please advise what size these3e are. The center blocks are both 2 1/2 in square. Heights are about 2 1/4in.
Thanks ya¡¯all
Jim Irwin
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On Sat, Jul 8, 2023 at 2:30?PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? Ralph , you may want to think along the lines of using a
large dowel or the like to hang your chucks from . Threading
chucks on for storage seems like a awful lot of work .
animal
On 7/8/23 9:10 AM, Ralph Hulslander
wrote:
Thanks Bill for explaining the stub spindle. That
or something similar is on the top of my list of things to do
when I get the AtomicELS or RELS running.
I need to do 3 or 4 of them to use as a chuck mount in my
new cabinet. I am going to mount the chucks on a sliding wall
for storage.
I "tried" grinding my original 3 jaw chuck, cannot say I
was very successful.
So I bought a 6" 6 jaw which?is really nice. Last month I
picked up a great old 3 jaw chuck at a Swap Meet.
Of course I also have a 4 jaw chuck. And of course a Back
Plate.
Ralph
Couple
of comments, but I have to admit I did not read all 98 replies
so I apologize in advance.
Most old 3 Jaw chucks are still pretty good.? My original 5"
Atlas chuck just had bell shaped jaws from wear and I ground
the jaws in a few hours with a small router.? That included
making a wooden router mount and blocks to pre-load the chuck
jaws.? It was not hard and the results were extremely good.?
For a bunch of different diameters I tested the runout was
about 0.003" or less which is pretty much all you can expect
from a typical 3-jaw chuck.? I bought a new Shars 6" chuck
with removable jaws and I only use it when I have to.? I still
prefer the 5" chuck.
Don't expect to remove and remount anything in a 3-jaw chuck
without checking it carefully with an indicator unless you can
live with the error.? Maybe you have the magic touch but I
don't.? If I need to do this I use a collet if I can.
Mounting a 3-jaw chuck in a 4-jaw chuck might make the 3-jaw
perfect but probably only at one diameter.? Also it puts you
further from the head-stock and you're starting with a pretty
big overhung load.? (If no one answered the stub spindle
question, it's a short threaded shaft that matches the lathe's
spindle that is long enough to screw into the 3-jaw chuck and
still long enough to mount in your 4-jaw chuck.?? Of course if
your 4-jaw chuck is big enough you could just mount the 3-jaw
chuck body in the jaws of the 4-jaw.)
When I am done cutting a thread I clean it up in the lathe
with a stainless steel wire brush.? It works wonders for
getting rid of the small imperfections.? For a right-hand
thread I generally run the lathe in reverse so the brush feeds
itself off the thread,?? I do this on aluminum too with a soft
stainless steel brush.? For a big thread you can clean it up
with a triangular file if you have to.
That's it.? Take it or leave it.
?
Jim
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charles brady